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US, Aussie Officials Yank GHB-Producing Toys
theodp writes "Questioned about concerns over China-made toys, Toys 'R' Us CEO Jerry Storch predicted 'this will be the safest holiday season ever.' Oops. On the same day Storch's interview ran in Fortune, Toys 'R' Us joined other North American and Australian retailers to pull millions of Chinese-made toy bead sets from shelves after scientists found they contain a chemical that when ingested metabolizes into GHB, the date-rape drug gamma hydroxy butyrate. Two children in the US and three in Australia were hospitalized after swallowing the beads."
Where can we buy the beads ?
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Isn't it wonderful that we got China into the WTO in the 90s, so we could buy all their cheap goods?
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The problem with date rape is that first you have to get a girl to go out on a date with you.
sigh. sometimes it sucks to be a nerd.
I'd never heard of these things before yesterday, but it looks like a fantastic toy. Except for, y'know, the coma part. Hopefully they'll reformulate them/
What I'm listening to now on Pandora...
Just a bit of repackaging for the 'Adult' market and I wouldn't bat an eyebrow at seeing these in my spam filter.
I like that some of the examples you can make are an Ice Cream Sundae and other food.
NO, I'm not going to link it; I could feel the site being slashdotted so that would be pointless.
Virginia is for lovers. EVE is for griefers.
Like LSD. It would have been great to see countless kids tripping out with those multicolored beads.
"Wow, Tommy really likes those beads. And that tie-died shirt. Where did he get a Phish CD?!"
Fun Toy Banned Because of Three Stupid Dead Kids
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What next, will hypodermic needles come pre-loaded with AIDS-tainted blood? Are RoboSapiens going to rape our pets? MSG in our food? Hey, wait a sec...
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Sell the spice to CHOAM
This Mahdi took Shaddam's Throne
why everytime china goofs, they have to emphasize on the "china" or "chinese" part? it is not like our own companies never goofed (e.g. Dole used pesticide that sterilized its workers, and Gap used child labors etc.). After all, isn't it our own toy designers that came up with this "woo, if you pour water on the date-rape drug, they stick together" idea and the poor chinese factories are merely following the instructions? or am I missing something?
Forget the chemical they were coated with for a second. But how on earth does a toy for children, that has parts easily removed and very easily swallowed, get bought for children? (and notice how carefully I tried to word this, not trying to imply that the manufacturer approved the use of such toys for children (they may or may not have), but allowing for the possibility that the towy were marketed for a more adult demographic (8-12) and it was the parents' bad call to buy them for toddlers) Somebody is crazy here.
"The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
Never understood the correlation between beads and flashing breasts until now ...
I used to take it all the time and I never got raped once.
I finally get the whole rosary beads thing with Catholic Priests.
the little punks to eat toys.
Really, I read a few weeks ago about a toy being recalled because a girl ate 2 magnets separately and they tore apart her intestines. That's not a toy problem, that's a watch-your-kid-ripping-magnets-off-toys-and-eating-them problem.
i made a colorful portrait of river phoenix in colored beads"
(thump)
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
For a second there I thought Toys-backwards-R-Us was being run by this guy.
From the Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_Dots/ "The toy was supposed to contain the non-toxic chemical 1,5-pentanediol, but instead contains 1,4-butanediol, which is metabolised into the drug gamma-hydroxybutyric acid (GHB)." It looks like it's not a design mistake, but the manufacturer replacing one substance with a cheaper version
from the page footer: ""I may be synthetic, but I'm not stupid" -- the artificial person, from _Aliens_"
The artificial person? His name was Bishop. What nerd doesn't know this?
Stocks of the toy fly off the shelves and pedophiles and would be rapists scramble to secure the balance of store inventory.
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
It really makes me wonder what all I was exposed to as a kid, assuming we are just now catching all these things that were happening all along with imported toys and such.
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Crackdown on unsafe toys, crackdown on "do not call" violators. Federal agencies are suddenly interested in doing their jobs after nearly seven years of sucking up to the very people they're supposed to be regulating?
Is some kind of election coming up next year, or something?
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
How will they dispose of these beads? Throw them in the dump and let the chemical seep into the groundwater?
I have this vision of an entire town of amnesiacs.
"The toy was supposed to contain the non-toxic chemical 1,5-pentanediol, but instead contains 1,4-butanediol, which is metabolised into the drug gamma-hydroxybutyric acid (GHB)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bindeez
It looks like it wasn't a design problem, but a manufacturing problem. So yes, you were missing something.
I am opposed to the term "date-rape drug" as I consider it to be offensive. I demand that you use a more neutral term and propose "date-romance drug" as an alternative.
I mean all the news stories refer to GHB as a date rape drug, which is just stupid journalistic sensationalism, GHB is far more commonly used as a 'rave drug', and there are more date rape accusations resulting from plain old alcohol induced leglessness. Not to mention that GHB is so salty and dangerous to mix with alcohol that you couldn't spike a drink with it. But the way the news continues to label it as a 'date rape' drug largely serves to perpetuate the idea and endanger people who end up taking too many hints from the news media. Even when people know what they're doing it's bad news waiting to happen, and giving it to other people is irresposible. Putting it into kids toys to save a bit of money in manufacturing is just pure evil.
"Two children in the US and three in Australia were hospitalized after swallowing the beads."
ummm... shouldn't children be hospitalized for swallowing any beads, toxic or not?
640YB ought to be enough for anybody.
GHB isn't *the* date rape drug. It's use, actually is primarily recreational (and, *no*, date rape is *not* recreation). Loss of conciousness is actually a rarity.
I heard this on the news last night and thought "Oh, they're tainted with rohypnol". When I read this article this morning, I saw that it was GHB.
Again, the media demonizing and misclassifying drugs. I'm not saying that GHB is good. Don't get me wrong at all. But the whole misclassification of things confuses parents, makes kids crave the stuff more, and generally, in it's lowest form, is misinformation.
And we know how slashdot folks hate sensationalized misinformation, right?
The older I get, the less I like everyone else.
"Child seriously ill after drinking Chinese-made drain cleaner!"
Seriously, what kind of kid eats non-edible beads when they are 10 years old? This seems like a case of Darwinism at work... Are people just supposed to be able to be as dumb as they want, do anything, disregard all common sense, and still somehow make it through life? Geez...
And yes, I have kids. My three year old is smart enough to not eat his older sister's toy beads. He is even smart enough to keep them away from a baby. I guess now that qualifies as "super genius".
No matter what the product, Chinese manufacturers will always cut every corner they can.
Toothpaste: Substituting poisonous glycol (anti-freeze) for other sugary chemicals
Cough syrup: Ditto
Paint: Using lead
Painted toys: lead
Capacitors: Using stolen formulas and producing incomplete electrolytes taht cause the capacitors to fail, leak or explode.
Toys: substituting cheaper butanediol (which turns into the date-rape drug GHB) for more expensive pentanediol
Kinda scary that this kinda stuff can get through.
-EL
If I wasn't at work I'd look up the citation, but apparently double-blind studies have pretty conclusively shown that ruffies aren't really useful as a "date rape" drug, seeing as they're not a magical knockout potion.
Now, getting trashed out of your mind, that'll give yer frat boy an opening. Doesn't need a magical additive for that, though.
not directly related but http://jwz.livejournal.com/ has a mix tape (.m3u) you can stream that starts with a ponient track "good evening" but the third one, "rocked by rape" really gets into "what the f**k is wrong with the world" thing. "http://cerebrum.dnalounge.com/mixtapes/
These beads are supposed to stick together, and so they have a water-activated glue on the surface. The toy concept is that kids build something in a supporting tray, spray it with water, and then can remove the whole design in one piece. There's no excuse for having anything even remotely toxic in a material intended for use like that.
The previous popular toy with little stick-together spheres was Magnetix, from Rose Art. That one was recalled after one death and 27 emergency surgeries for ingesting the conveniently candy-sized cobalt-neodymium magnets.
Get the kids Legos. That company has a clue about how to get parts to attach.
Responsible parenting is one thing, but kids will stick anything in their mouth, and nose.
A childerens enviroment should therefore not contain things that A are small enough to swallow or B are harmfull if done so. Toys therefore have to be made in such a way that even with rough handling parts do not come off and are non-toxic. Thats the law. It really ain't even that hard. The original toy in this case WAS non-toxic. The chinese replaced the original glue with another, why? The chinese for some reason seem unable to follow specifications. All the recalls I seen from China are because they changed a part of the design for no good reason.
I am all for responsible parenting, but when a company creates a safe product and a chinese company replaces a harmless glue with a KNOWN dangerous one, what is a parent to do. The product HAD been tested before. Should you put everything through your own lab before giving it to your child?
Frankly it is about time the chinese start to act upon this. Launch a police investigation and find out why this glue was replaced.
But yes parents should also inspect the toys themselves, before you give a toddler a teddybear, try and see if you can pull it apart. but parents can't be expected to do chemical tests.
Frankly I think we need to thighten the rules, NO product is released without it first passing rigid and mandatory safety checks that test EVERYTHING. Release a product that proves harmfull and you are charged with attempted manslaughter. Why did this company not TEST their products one they arrived from china?
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Company officials said that their new product "Bufo Toad" should replace any revenue lost through the GHB scandal.
which lead to this..
That's a pretty reasonable price for GHB.
-- Give me ambiguity or give me something else!
I actually had to research how big something you swallowed had to be before doctors became concerned. The the rule of thumb seems to be stuff about the size of a quarter (2.4 cm) or larger is trouble. Assuming it's not sharp or poisonous. Granted, anything could be a problem, but the doctors seem to have a wait and see policy for small stuff. Safer to let it pass than trying to go in and get it. They often wait for the large stuff too, but the ilealcecal valve is where stuff tends to get stuck.
So for non-toxic beads, hospitalization might not be necessary, but at least ask a doctor to evaluate your kid.
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meet will wheaton, who forever more will be thought if as wesley crusher, no matter what he does, even though he left that role behind in the 1980s
meet the spotted owl, who will forever more be thought of as the enemy of logging, but it's just a bird
meet the element lead, which has wonderful uses in nuclear reactors and batteries, but will forever more be thought of as something china likes to put in children's toys
first impressions are unfair, but you will forgive me if i have more sympathy with lead, the spotted owl and will wheaton than i do with a dangerous drug like ghb
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
, being a byproduct of muscle activity in (all?) mammals. As such, it is also present in trace amounts in meat. At one time, you could buy pure GHB powder as a "dietary supplement" in vitamin shops. It is STILL available by prescription under the brand name Xyrem.
ANYONE could fail a drug test that looked for GHB at any time. Same goes for a powerful psychedelic called DMT, which is also a human neurotransmitter. This stuff makes LSD look like a placebo in comparison.
So each and every reader out there is currently in possession of 2 DEA Schedule I controlled substances. You are expected to do your patriotic duty, and turn yourselves in by the end of the day....:)
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That's a funny coincidence. More likely they have those common metabolic pathways because it's more economical for the same factory to produce both the toys for kids, and the GHB for older kids, from the same common source. I wonder just how much GHB comes from these Chinese factories. I bet we don't find out in time for Christmas.
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Won't someone think of the children!
Um, oh... wait - that's strangely appropriate...
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We're reaping what we sowed. We wanted cheap crap, we got it. Personally, I'd rather pay a little more for non-poisoned stuff, but that's just me.
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
How hard would it be for some 3v1l company to spike their products with stuff that turns into something Really Harmful when it is consumed, used, or disposed of?
Sure, it would bankrupt the company. But if the goal of the company is to poison its customers or the environment then they probably don't care about money.
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The rich get richer, the poor get even more poor. (I'm surprised by your reaction)
try wikipedia for starters,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Organization#Criticism_3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_WTO
You tell me what's good about it, I'm all ears.
With everything being manufactured in China, out of our hands and control, what's to stop the Chinese from deciding to "taint" products essential to our national security? What if the Chinese Govt simply ordered the cessation of manufacturing certain things that we really need?
China has tied their currency to the dollar making their money artificially cheap. This has caused all our manufacturing capacity to go to China. Short term, US benefits. Long term, China holds the cards.
And we're OK with this?
I have no problem with your religion until you decide it's reason to deprive others of the truth.
A better question is: did they even care?
There seem to be an awful lot of such incidents lately, involving swapped materials, ranging from poisonous toys to ethilene glycol in toothpaste to exploding lithium ion batteries, all coming from China. I'm sorry, but that's no longer looking like isolated "oopsie" cases where someone forgot to do their research. It starts to look like they have a whole culture based on not doing that research at all, or plain old not care as long as they can pocket the difference.
I mean in this case one might even argue that they didn't research what it decomposes into, but other cases involved such blatant cases as:
- lead paint, which is _known_ to be toxic. You don't have to research what it metabolizes into, it's just toxic as it is.
- ethilene glycol, a known poison, used instead of the more expensive glycerine in toothpaste
- the membrane which should collapse and open the circuit when a battery overheats, replaced with much cheaper stuff that doesn't. It doesn't take that much research to understand why it's there, and why a battery without that safety can burst into flames.
Etc.
In fact, I'll venture a guess and say what it really reminds me of: corruption and kleptocracy. Now I don't have any first-hand experience with China, but I've seen cases in other places, and, honestly, the more I hear about such Chinese manufacturing incidents, the more it starts to sounds like that.
The way that works is, sorta, along the lines of "it doesn't matter how much you're paid, it matters how much you can steal / embezzle / demand in bribes / etc". Whole pyramids get built where any good job (judged through the aforementioned criterion) is either given to relatives of party officials, or essentially auctioned to whoever gave a bigger bribe. Then essentially the winner is inoffficially _expected_ to get that money back with interest, by abusing that function to take more bribes or plain old steal.
In which case, the way it would go, isn't even that some ruthless capitalist wanted to cut production costs, gain a competitive advantage and invest it in some form or shape into expanding his operations. It's probably just some private guy along the chains who switched materials and pocketed the money. It's not the evils of capitalism, it's plain old the evils of unchecked corruption.
Especially the communist block generated quite a few such structures, which is why I wonder about China.
Actually, I'll give you one more reason why I worry about China. Because they have a whole _surrealistic_ history of just that.
If you look as far back in time as the Battle of the Yalu River, you'll find such surrealistic stuff as that many shells used by the Chinese fleet were filled with sawdust or cement, because some enterprising souls in the navy had embezzeled the funds for cordite and split the loot with the manufacturer. Or stuff as monumentally surrealistic as that a battleship was missing two main guns, which again had been stolen and sold on the black market. If you didn't go "WTBF?!" already, read it again and roll it a bit in your head. Big Fucking Guns, off a battleship, stolen and sold on the black market.
At this point, I'm sure someone will point out that it's been more than a century since then, and China did have two (or arguably even 3) changes of regime and direction in the meantime. But did the culture change in that time? Because from where I stand, it doesn't look that way. The corruption of the Qing empire continued seamlessly into the surrealistic warlord era during Chiang Kai-shek's regime, which in turn continued seamlessly into the corrupt regime under Mao. And now we have arguably the same guys who enriched themselves during the communism, and not by honest means either (the official salaries of government offi
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If you go to any of the former retailers - Amazon, Wal-Mart, etc. searching for 'aquadots' (any variation) leads to a 'not found' message or something unrelated to the beads. It would be nice if they put a notice acknowledging the recall, but I guess that opens them up to some level of liability. I always thought the things looked too much like Dippin Dots anyway.
As someone who's actually had a product line manufactured in China, I can say this. In general, they consider product specifications as a guideline only. They'll do whatever they can to relax tolerances, substitute materials and shortcut processes to lower costs, without the engineering or product research background to support those decisions. They don't pass those lower costs on either.
I gave up having anything made in China years ago. The quality control alone ended up costing more than any savings I got from Chinese labor. In some products, we had as high as a 20% defect rate, and 5% was normal. Now I use automated machines to make my goods, and I hire local employees to do the design and operations work. You know what? now I have a better product AND a better price than I used to get from China!
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As far as I can tell
I know several who have ended up looking after people who have "G-holed". That is they took too much GHB "recreationally" or by accident (drank from someones waterbottle.. not water) or their high/stupid/sadistic friend screwed up the dose.
The problem is extremely low metabolism and inability to protect your own airway.. some people die.It can real ruin someones night.
It has definitely been used for sexual coercion, and in our community has been involved in date rapes, which does not have to include a fully passed out person.. heck happens even without intoxicants.. just someone who is not able to exit from a sexual situation where they are abused and later subsequently confused about their own level of responsibility, so it is left unaddressed.
It is a muscle relaxant. It helps you get a good night's sleep and wake up feeling refreshed, especially after working out. It used to be sold in health stores all over the place because it helped body builders keep a hard work out regiment. It does NOT get you intoxicated or high or any kind of altered state of mind. I am not sure what happens if you overdose on the stuff, but normal doses won't put anyone in a hospital.
The only problem with it is that it acts as an alcohol amplifier. If you take it with alcohol, it's like you drank 3 times as much. Unless these kids were getting into daddy's happy juice, they weren't getting stoned.
Five sick children and how many of these have been sold world-wide? Millions? And people should know that the according to ABC News (Australia) the two children there "...swallowed large amounts of the beads...."
Read that again. "Large amounts." http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/11/06/2082480.htm
This is a case of mass hysteria. More children probably get hurt from falling off a bicycle or choking on their Fruit Loops.
The pursuit of absolute tolerance leads to the most rigorous and ludicrous intolerance. - REX MURPHY
"ANYONE could fail a drug test that looked for GHB at any time. Same goes for a powerful psychedelic called DMT"
That's completely wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine
"There are no drug tests that would show DMT usage. None of the basic NIDA 5 drug tests or any extended drug test will show a result for DMT."
"This stuff makes LSD look like a placebo in comparison."
That's wrong too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD
"Dosages of LSD are measured in micrograms (g), or millionths of a gram. By comparison, dosages of almost all other drugs, both recreational and medicinal, are measured in milligrams (mg), or thousandths of a gram. Hofmann determined that an active dose of mescaline, roughly 0.2 to 0.5g, has effects comparable to 100g or less of LSD; put another way, LSD is between five to ten thousand times more active than mescaline."
I hate people like you so much, you sit around your fucking dorm room with your other loser friends and mentally masturbate about the drugs you take, repeating the same ridiculous misinformation, and propagating it to other losers like you in order to impress them with your "drug knowledge".
I think that would work a lot better if you actually bothered to know what the fuck you were talking about.
But, since it's clear you don't, all you've done is make yourself sound like another burnout spouting crap about things beyond the comprehension of his screwed up little brain.
"What ever happened to survival of the fittest and natural selection? The kid that eats too many marbles doesn't grow up to have kids of his own?"
I'll bet a responsible party for the chemical substitution is fingered and executed within a month or two.
We have trade agreements with clauses to protect investors. Why can't we add protections for consumers? When something like this happens, the country should be required to take action against those responsible or to provide effective measures for those harmed to do so. Failing such action, the country would be open to retaliation under the agreement. That's just my first thought so it may not be the best approach, but the current situation in which investors are protected and consumers (and others) are not is definitely out of whack. Fat chance it'll be fixed though.
put them in there do not put them in there!
...is how they keep the Chinese factory workers from passing out and raping each other?
If a baby duck is a "duckling," why would anyone want to eat "dumplings?"
We didn't have fancy toys for Christmas. We had sticks and rocks, and we were happier for it!
:-\
Uh, I guess because the sticks and rocks didn't contain dangerous chemicals?
Isn't it nice. After all the years of creating safety standards for toys and consumer goods, just to throw it all away now that we don't manufacture a flipping thing and 'assume' that our source partners in developing countries will naturally have gone through that too. Oh, that makes sense especially when they charge pennies to the dollar of what we used to pay our own workers. Corporations don't care about safety, they just want someone else to be liable.
Need a business idea? How about building your own high quality product right here in your hometown. We need them.
When I was a kid, my mom told me about starving kids in china. I told my kids that chinese kids have no toys. We sent them all the lead and GHB as a gift.
GHB good yang!
I saw this story on CNN, and I was puzzled. The toy in question is a craft toy that has beads that when sprayed with water stick together. It's for kids 4-years-old and older. In Australia, a 10-year-old ATE dozens of the beads !! They showed a video of the recovered girl and her Mom. The girl didn't seem retarded, so my question is : WHY IS A TEN YEAR OLD EATING HER TOYS !?? Doesn't the consumer bear any responsibility for their actions? Does every toy manufacturer have to make sure that their products are edible??
What about iPods? Both my 7-year-old and 10-year-old have iPods -- can they eat them? If they eat their iPods and die, should Apple recall all iPods??
Nick Nolte has volunteered to personally pick up every toy bead set at your home...
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/nolte1.html
He claims that he personally knows of the dangers of GBH...
Since many slashdotters think crticially when it's a more on-topic story, it really makes me sad that some are just accepting the media drivel here.
For starters, what do alternative uses of a substance have to do with anything? Water is used in nuclear reactors, oh noes! Guilt by association through alternative uses is a stupid emotional argument. (And before you try to argue that water is usually used legitimately and this isn't: I'd say that there is far more recreational use than use as a weapon).
Don't get me wrong, GHB isn't harmless. People have died from overdoses or combinations with alcohol and it generally has a very steep dose-respone curve. Of course, dangerousness has hardly anything to do with whether it should be legal (this holds both from a pragmatic and an idealistic POV). Just my 10^-2
Medium cat is MEDIUM.
oh, but on the positive side, at least some posters pointed it out before me, so I guess slashdot is still better than most other sites :)
Medium cat is MEDIUM.
Hey Cheesey, I think you've started a new meme here!
"Dude, do a couple beads for crying out loud!"
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I tried the date-rape drug once. It didn't work, nobody raped me :-(
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As this one isn't particularly insightful or interesting.
But earlier on I saw mention on this on 4chan. I dismissed it out of hand as mindless trollery.
Now, seriously, I am wondering:
(a) What has science done?
and
(b) Where is your god now?
I'm now going to buy some dog curtains and get rid of the answering machine before it tries to slit my throat.
F_T out.
Isn't it wonderful that we got China into the WTO in the 90s, so we could buy all their cheap goods?
Anyone reminded of Happy Fun Ball?
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Everything I said was true, but for a different molecule: butadiene, not butanediol.
*sigh*
To do: get more sleep, read before hitting 'submit'
Nostalgia's not what it used to be.
And here the USA is worried about terrorists threats. Right? Put heavy security on airplane flights.
Disrupt train/bus centers for fear of terrorists. Read everyone's email and tap their phones.
And for what?
Then along comes Red China (communist, anti-American country, as opposed to Taiwan, the Democratic
China) that builds toys for the USA and the world. Coat the toys with a lead compound to kill off the
children. Put chemicals on the toys that will, with the addition of moisture, become GBH, a date-rape drug.
Makes me wonder what OTHER chemicals have been put on their toys?
I've often asked when did we sign a peace treaty with Red China? Did we? Because if we didn't,
then why hasn't this been claimed as an act of aggression AGAINST the freedom-loving children
of the world? Why hasn't this been addressed at the top levels of our government as a TERRORIST
ACT AGAINST US?
Walmart has many stores in Red China. And a couple of factories, from what I've heard.
Does this fraternization with an enemy make them part of this act of aggression? Think about it.
Just think about it. If we've caught two or three toys that have been chemically altered to become
death-dealing or harmful objects, how many more have slipped in? If one child dies from this, then
who wins?
Think about it.
People in the West need to understand that these Chinese incidents are sponsored and coordinated by the Chinese government to kill western children and damage the reputation of Western companies to destablize the Western economies. China is a country that is the enemy of all nations and the future is going to prove this once and for all. If the West doesn't kill the Chinese they are going to wipe you out. This is just the first stage of a much broader plan. For now it seems that the Chinese are content to kill, mame and injure Western children and companies, but it will get more involved over time. -anon
There's actually sane parents left in this country!
I applaud you.
Well, not really, people would look at me strange at work but in my head I'm applauding you.
I am just an 11 y.o. girl here to talk to you. Want to come over and play in my state? My name is heidi and you can call me at (202) (671-7233). Don't worry about my dad or my mom. Just ask for heidi and let them know that you want to come and play with me.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Heck they even took pictures of it for posterity sake.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Ever thing that they used were cheaper. The leaded paint is a good example. BTW, testing on the product did occur. It just happens in China.
Personally, I do not blame mattel, etc. I blame the parents that keep buying the crap. They NEED to stop. If you stop, then companies like mattell will get the message and call it quit on it. For 3 years, I have made it a point to NOT buy chinses made items for my kids (I will buy other stuff from china since it can not be avoided; but only a few toys). It was a BITCH esp. last year. I have noticed that the small stores are now stocking items from all over the world. I have bought items Germany, Britain, Japan, Mexico, Canada, India, and even USA. All much better quality. I am guessing that next year it will get even easier. The hard part is you have to avoid the wal-mart and toys'r'us AND above all else, avoid the mattels, hasbro, etc.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
where we take it so seriously, we say "oh, I'm sorry" and maybe even only get a payrise for failing..!
Please, Leave IFWM/Flyingwhitey/lyingwhitey alone. All you do is give him credence. The idiot use to post here a great deal and was just as worthless back then as he is now.