It makes my skin crawl to hear words like "solution stack"
It's called freedom. The point of OSS is to make software free (libre) so that people who use it get to use it their way. If their way includes marketspeak, that's their choice, and people making choices we may personally dislike is always a consequence of freedom.
people still use Hollywood. That's where most of the talent is
Are you sure?
So far this year they've given us these;
The Ballad of Jack and Rose
Alone in the Dark
Lord of War
The Man
The Corpse Bride
The Amityville Horror
Bad News Bears
Finding Neverland
The House of D
Madagascar
Mr & Mrs Smith
Riding the Bus with my Sister
Sahara
War of the Worlds
White Noise
The point is that the documents are open and publicly available to anyone.
No, that's not the point. That's what's commonly called a red herring, and it reeks just as badly. The point is that once I've developed an application which writes to Microsoft's schemas, they can claim I've infringed their patents and/or copyrights.
You need to ask yourself why their format needs to be licensed at all. Why not just say "here is our format"?
Yes, I have. What's interesting is what is not stated, and that is that whether developers can relicense programs using MS schemas.
"We are acknowledging that end users who merely open and read government documents that are saved as Office XML files within software programs will not violate the license."
Note that there was nothing in that "clarification" indemnifying developers.
By explicitly indemnifying users, they are leaving the option open to lock out competing developers if they change their minds in some time in the future.
What really interests me is exactly which concrete problems should I expect with MS's, that supposedly aren't there if I use OOo's format.
It's not just what problems are created, it's what opportunities are lost. Automated creation of text, drawing, spreadsheet, etc documents using non native tools (such as databases or scripts) is simple with OOo formats for example, but with Microsoft's proprietary format, I'm limited to using the tools Microsoft provides.
I would love to be able to use Thunderbird. It is really neat, has some nice features, and is easy to use. But (mostly) because of the HTML based e-mails, I simply can't.
Is a nuclear reactor really worse? Or is that just the knee jerk reaction?
It's hard to say exactly, but in the short term, the reactor is probably not too bad. http://www-ns.iaea.org/appraisals/west-kara.htm The problem with reactors is that while many of failure modes are relatively benign, there's not enough information available about the catastrophic failure modes to be able to predict their cost.
Good luck fitting a copy of a PC emulator into a worm's payload.
Well, since PCTask for the Amiga was only 300k, and that was emulating an 80486 on a M68000 cpu, I'd say it is eminently possible. Highly unlikely anyone would be motivated to do something like that just to bump up Microsoft's revenue, but still possible.
You mistakenly assume that just because someone is given the source code, they are capable of understanding it and making fixes.
And you mistakenly assume that when someone is given the source code, they are incapable of hirng someone to understand it and make fixes.
Oddly enough your example reminds me of a site I returned to last year. In 1987, one of the first commercial programs I ever wrote was a controller for refrigerators in a meat packing factory. It was relatively simple, based on increasing cooling depending on the operator entering how much meat was added or removed from each of the refrigerators. At the time, I'd written the program, tested and revised it over the course of several months. The client paid by the hour and called whenever the program didn't do what they wanted it to. Eventally, the calls stopped and I forgot about that job.
I went back there last year for a completely unrelated purpose and had a look at the old controller. Wedged behind it was the original 5 1/4" floppy I'd been delivering the revisions (and the source code) of the software.
Why sure it is. If you've ever played with a cat and dangled it upside down, they look just like that!
I haven't done that - I'm too interested in keeping the skin on my hands and forearms.
I think you're right about it being a cat though. It's proportions are similar to a domestic animal, and the hunter has been careful to put the carcass in the foreground where it will appear large compared to reference objects like the motorcycle in the background. I've shot feral cats in the north of WA which were much larger than domestic cats - bigger than foxes in the same area and comparable in size to a small to medium dog. They tended to be a fairly uniform brindle colour, but every so often you'd see a ginger or black cat.
I think this is mostly a scam. The guy has shot a large feral cat, played with perspectives in the photo to make it look bigger, and will dine out on the tabloid news media for a few days until the DNA evidence shows he's shot a wild felis cattus.
Not sure if you're trolling of not, but my DWL 520 works out of the box with both Suse 10 RC1 and Knoppix 3.9. If you're for real, try here http://www.linux-wlan.org/ for drivers and help.
Sigh. No it doesn't. It lies on the people making the worms.
You're mixing up blame and responsibility. The people making the worms are to blame for the world being too hostile for Windows to be a good choice of operating systems, particularly for people who don't know much about computers.
Microsoft is responsible for making Windows secure enough so that people who don't know much about computers can use it safely in that hostile world. They're the only ones who can have resposibility. They are the only ones who have the source code.
MS have admitted responsibility - that's what all their focus on security is about. It's only the shills and astroturfers who don't get it.
On Windows, open source would be okay until MS decides it's time to get into that market.
Yeah, you have to wonder whether Microsoft has shot itself in the foot there. By refusing to port their tools, they've forced the FOSS community to develop the whole software stack for Linux. Now instead of having to compete with just a free OS, and leveraging their Office software income to do so, they're having to compete with an entire platform. Worse for them is that Linux is providing a haven for developers who don't have to immediately compete with closed-source products - at least until they're on their second or third generation and ready to port to Windows.
When someone buys a Mac (for example), there's a fair chance they'll be giving Microsoft some cash for Office, but every successful deployment of Linux on the desktop means Microsoft loses revenue from both of it's main income streams.
Nope, the portal you walk through is the main metal detector, and they have a sort of wand-style thing to do the personal searches. This gadget was about the size of a fat suitcase and when they switched it on, sucked air through the paddle bit that the security bloke waved over our stuff.
You may be right about the way they do it at Heathrow, but I'd say there's more than one way to skin a cat...
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Just in case, why not stop by the food co-op on your way and pick out a nice armful of ripe, juicy tomatoes?
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Try the pies. He's used to those. http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/700000/images/_7010
It makes my skin crawl to hear words like "solution stack"
It's called freedom. The point of OSS is to make software free (libre) so that people who use it get to use it their way. If their way includes marketspeak, that's their choice, and people making choices we may personally dislike is always a consequence of freedom.
My time is just that, my time.
Wow, thanks for sharing that with us Enzo. Just a tip for you though, the world does not revolve around you.
Sorry to be the one to break that to you.
I think there is a certail level of honour that the developers of a larger project (such as KOffice or KDE) must show.
I think you will find that if you show respect, you will be given respect. If you behave like a spoilt child, you will be treated with contempt.
I'd rather see that that some pretend subservience.
Are you sure?
So far this year they've given us these; See if you can pick a winner in that lot...
The point is that the documents are open and publicly available to anyone.
No, that's not the point. That's what's commonly called a red herring, and it reeks just as badly. The point is that once I've developed an application which writes to Microsoft's schemas, they can claim I've infringed their patents and/or copyrights.
You need to ask yourself why their format needs to be licensed at all. Why not just say "here is our format"?
Note that there was nothing in that "clarification" indemnifying developers. By explicitly indemnifying users, they are leaving the option open to lock out competing developers if they change their minds in some time in the future.
I've pernsonally written programs to directly generate documents MS XML files and don't see why you users are limited to MS tools.
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Have you complied with the terms of the licence?
http://www.microsoft.com/office/xml/licenseovervi
What really interests me is exactly which concrete problems should I expect with MS's, that supposedly aren't there if I use OOo's format.
It's not just what problems are created, it's what opportunities are lost. Automated creation of text, drawing, spreadsheet, etc documents using non native tools (such as databases or scripts) is simple with OOo formats for example, but with Microsoft's proprietary format, I'm limited to using the tools Microsoft provides.
Imagine this happening to the Hubble.
I'm trying, but I just can't imagine where the moisture is going to come from.
I would love to be able to use Thunderbird. It is really neat, has some nice features, and is easy to use. But (mostly) because of the HTML based e-mails, I simply can't.
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Then set Thunderbird to display the message body as text. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Plain_text_e-mail_(Thun
Is a nuclear reactor really worse? Or is that just the knee jerk reaction?
It's hard to say exactly, but in the short term, the reactor is probably not too bad. http://www-ns.iaea.org/appraisals/west-kara.htm
The problem with reactors is that while many of failure modes are relatively benign, there's not enough information available about the catastrophic failure modes to be able to predict their cost.
Good luck fitting a copy of a PC emulator into a worm's payload.
Well, since PCTask for the Amiga was only 300k, and that was emulating an 80486 on a M68000 cpu, I'd say it is eminently possible. Highly unlikely anyone would be motivated to do something like that just to bump up Microsoft's revenue, but still possible.
The Australians have the Scramjet, but nothing to speak of to put it on.
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That's what you think... http://www.madmaxmovies.com/cars/madmax2/Gyrocopt
I know you're being funny, but Woomera is in outback South Australia, probably about 1000km away from the Gippsland region of Victoria
At mach 2 that's less than a half-hour drive, traffic permitting.
You mistakenly assume that just because someone is given the source code, they are capable of understanding it and making fixes.
And you mistakenly assume that when someone is given the source code, they are incapable of hirng someone to understand it and make fixes.
Oddly enough your example reminds me of a site I returned to last year. In 1987, one of the first commercial programs I ever wrote was a controller for refrigerators in a meat packing factory. It was relatively simple, based on increasing cooling depending on the operator entering how much meat was added or removed from each of the refrigerators. At the time, I'd written the program, tested and revised it over the course of several months. The client paid by the hour and called whenever the program didn't do what they wanted it to. Eventally, the calls stopped and I forgot about that job.
I went back there last year for a completely unrelated purpose and had a look at the old controller. Wedged behind it was the original 5 1/4" floppy I'd been delivering the revisions (and the source code) of the software.
Writing 32bit imaging tools (and I have been doing that for a couple of decades)
Then I'm sure you'll be aware that CinePaint (used to be called Film Gimp) does 16-bits per channel (64-bit RGBA).
Why sure it is. If you've ever played with a cat and dangled it upside down, they look just like that!
I haven't done that - I'm too interested in keeping the skin on my hands and forearms.
I think you're right about it being a cat though. It's proportions are similar to a domestic animal, and the hunter has been careful to put the carcass in the foreground where it will appear large compared to reference objects like the motorcycle in the background.
I've shot feral cats in the north of WA which were much larger than domestic cats - bigger than foxes in the same area and comparable in size to a small to medium dog. They tended to be a fairly uniform brindle colour, but every so often you'd see a ginger or black cat.
I think this is mostly a scam. The guy has shot a large feral cat, played with perspectives in the photo to make it look bigger, and will dine out on the tabloid news media for a few days until the DNA evidence shows he's shot a wild felis cattus.
Not sure if you're trolling of not, but my DWL 520 works out of the box with both Suse 10 RC1 and Knoppix 3.9. If you're for real, try here http://www.linux-wlan.org/ for drivers and help.
Sigh. No it doesn't. It lies on the people making the worms.
You're mixing up blame and responsibility. The people making the worms are to blame for the world being too hostile for Windows to be a good choice of operating systems, particularly for people who don't know much about computers.
Microsoft is responsible for making Windows secure enough so that people who don't know much about computers can use it safely in that hostile world. They're the only ones who can have resposibility. They are the only ones who have the source code.
MS have admitted responsibility - that's what all their focus on security is about. It's only the shills and astroturfers who don't get it.
'Ere, he says he's not dead...
The best way to not get killed by accident in a war zone is to stay home and make babies.
You'd think so, but you know, as soon as you start collecting the parts, people get really excited...
On Windows, open source would be okay until MS decides it's time to get into that market.
Yeah, you have to wonder whether Microsoft has shot itself in the foot there. By refusing to port their tools, they've forced the FOSS community to develop the whole software stack for Linux. Now instead of having to compete with just a free OS, and leveraging their Office software income to do so, they're having to compete with an entire platform. Worse for them is that Linux is providing a haven for developers who don't have to immediately compete with closed-source products - at least until they're on their second or third generation and ready to port to Windows.
When someone buys a Mac (for example), there's a fair chance they'll be giving Microsoft some cash for Office, but every successful deployment of Linux on the desktop means Microsoft loses revenue from both of it's main income streams.
off the main isle.
Wouldn't they be better putting it on the mainland?
The ping pong paddle is a metal detector.
Nope, the portal you walk through is the main metal detector, and they have a sort of wand-style thing to do the personal searches. This gadget was about the size of a fat suitcase and when they switched it on, sucked air through the paddle bit that the security bloke waved over our stuff.
You may be right about the way they do it at Heathrow, but I'd say there's more than one way to skin a cat...