Open office doesn't have much of a chance unless they somehow can combat the M$ wallet.
Netscape got screwed because of exculsive contracts that blocked it from being preloaded on most PCs.
Corel got screwed because if failed to adopt Windows fast enough, then was blocked as Netscape was, and then was given the death blow when Microsoft flooded the market with "illegal" WWF(world wide fullfilment) copies of Office 97. Who was going to buy WordPerfect when you could get a copy of Office 97 with no manual for $35?
Office is now 90 market share. What does any other product offer that M$ doesn't? And what makes it worth the cost of changing platforms? Most everyone allready HAS office. What is the point?
The only think that was good about that movie was the bellyflop the saucer section. That on the big screen was cool. I mean get real. Having to watch Kirk is too much. Having to watch him die TWICE...*shudder* And of course there are clips of the orignal second death scene out on the net that I've seen. So I was a sadist and watched him die THREE times.
Hee.
Yeah and I must of given execute rights to the everybody group because everybody tries to tell me what to do. My wife, my boss, my taxman, and my mother-in-law thinks she's got SUDO privileges.
...I have 5 freeken' servers to backup and now you want me to backup my brain as well.
And of course I've got to test the backups, so now I've got to find time to go get a lobotomy so I can reload from backup.
I don't understand how Walmart expects to sell this stuff. The price tag that is on this kind of computer will appeal to the Lowest Common Denominator customer. One that doesn't have money or the internet. So how are they supposed to buy it without internet access? And if they do buy one and when they can't run the lastest games(re:windows based games on it) they will return them. (Or pirate old copies of Windows 98 to run on them.)
Most people "in the know" would avoid them would they not? Most Linux geeks that I know would want high end equipment not cheap junk. I've got an old celeron that has trouble running X. How the heck is this going to run Lindows, lycoris or Mandrake 9?
So I can't figure out who this is marketed at? College students? First time "trailer home" computer buyers?
Some one there made a bad business move IMHO.If you have stock in Walmart I'd sell.
Well I glad it's not a Linux unit...
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...with this problem. I really didn't want to read the flame war over the GNU/Ants vs Ants name.
And If I use a patented bug spray to kill the ants will RMS refuse to speak to me?
And if it was Microsoft we'd have Visual Ants, AntXP,.ANT OK...I'll shut up now...
How is this any better then a Palm OS or PocketPC device? One can argue size matters but other than that why should I plunk down hard cash for one when my handspring visor does that allready?
I said it was "Sort of a Military Honey Pot" I didn't say that they set up a machine to be cracked.
I said that they watched him once he started to see how good he was or to see if he had any others working with him. One is entrapment the other is a stakeout.
100 sites seems a bit much to me. I wonder if they let him work for some time before moving in just so they could judge how good he was or perhaps who else he was connected to. Sort of a military honey pot.
NO! NO! don't mod me! I'm too young to die a troll. {click} Oh the pain, the pain...
...and hope for some new good original programming along the lines of Earth: The Final Conflict.
Earth: Final Conflict? Are you serious? The first season of that show was good. But they screwed with all the characters and killed off Boone to replace him with some dork with a boffed hairdo and even worse acting skills then the actor that played Boone. I watched 3 maybe 4 episodes of the second season and never watched it again. A great plot line with no real good guys and no real bad guys everything grey blown to bits by idiots trying to make the show look sexy.
Even more annoying then the stickers was the Weather.com site. Yesterday (10/24/02)It had a damn MSN butterfly that followed the mouse cursor everywhere. (at least on IE6. I didn't try it on my Linux box with mozilla.) I wrote to the advertising email address to complain and they must of had a bunch of complaints because today it's gone.
I'm a big fan of Free Software(as in freedom) but when you give up, by choice, your ability to protect your rights to control the copying of the software you give up the rights to dictate terms about the name.
200lbs of compressed WAAAH!
Rush Limbaugh has a theme song. It was written by some communist type (Forgive me, I forget the name of the artist. Some commie/. troll will no doubt call me a jerk and tell me the name. Please do.) who stupidly put the song in the public domain. This guy got angered when Rush used his song. Rush did it deliberatly just to tweak the guys nose. Had the artist copywritten the work, Rush couldn't have used it. If Richard Stalman had a stronger copyright then he could force the name be called GNU/Linux.
Personally I don't call it Linux. Linux is only the kernel. I run Red Hat or Mandrake. It uses a Kernel by Linux, various tools by GNU, and a Gui by Xfree,Gnome, and KDE.
But I'm not sure about this. I'm having enough trouble getting email I WANT to receive, such as newsletters and mailed digests of newsgroups. Nitwits that forget that they signed up for a newsletter report the sender as a spammer and those stupid idiots at spamcop will block things like lockergnome and Fred Langa.
Who going to watch the watchers? Why can't _I_ deside what is spam and what isn't?
Am I the only one that is wondering if the fight against spam is causing more harm then good lately?
This could be a good thing in the long run. The DIVX movie disks were pretty much the same thing as this is and the public learned quickly that is was just another way to fleece the end user. This will give people the first taste of the future. It will piss them off just like Divx movies did. Microsoft should talk to Circuit City. This will not help CD sales. It will kill them. Hopefully the industry will learn.
Maybe I incorrect about this but I thought anyone could build any thing that they wanted so long as they paid royalities to the patent owner?
So if I invent the widget and get a patent on it and Mr.X builds and sells it then he is suppose to pay me?
Is this a concept that would apply here or am I incorrect on how patent law now works? If that is allowed then wouldn't that prevent disallowing reverse engineering? Would it not make it legal as long as you paid the patent owner?
So? What is stopping you from still doing that? Everybody is all up in arms about how this is going to kill gnome or KDE. There is nothing requiring you to INSTALL Red Hat's Nullified KDE/Gnome. Unselect the freekin' package and then go download your copy of KDE off of the KDE website. Or Gnome if your a gnome user. Some users might think that the combinded product will rock. Leave it to/. trolls to have a knee jerk reactions. Linux is about choice. You can use Red Hat 8 or NOT. Your not forced to upgrade your not forced to stay with Red Hat. There are OTHER distros. If you don't like what Red Hat is doing then go get Mandrake or roll your own.
I for one applaud RH for trying to provide a streamlined distro for the masses. Linux is too varied and too complex for the adverage computer users to adopt and use. The users that are bitching and moaning about this are the ones most able to change and modify there system to one they prefer.
This is NOT about removing two options. It's more about providing a THRID option that is streamlined with the entire distro. For many users that would be a desired feature.
Forgive my misspellings and grammer....
Why should we use that either? How can you be sure that the damn machine isn't rigged? Will they open the machine up and let me disasemble and examine it for tampering before I vote? I will not trust such a thing!
The only method I'll trust is a paper ballot that I can hand count and only if they hand count the ballots AT THE POLLING PLACE in full view of the public and agents of the ones being elected. Elections in the USA are often rigged. I don't vote because of that. I am mostly conservative and was glad that Bush won but I know that both Bush AND Gore tried to rig the election. It's all a fraud.
Now if they want to use any kind of machine either mechanical or electronic that produces a printed ballot, listing what the vote was. I can live with that. But again only if they hand count them onsite.
Frankly I don't trust any ballot method in use today. Why? Because they don't count the ballots at the polling place in full view of the public. You place a check mark on paper, pull a lever in box, punch a hole in a card, color a circle on a card or push a box on a touch screen. All the results are then hauled off unseen to be counted in secret. Why is it REQUIRED that we get results instantly? It is just a bullshit system designed from the ground up to be rigged at the drop of a wad of cash. I'll never trust a electronic voting machine any more then I do a mechanical one and I don't trust the ballots to be the same ones that left any voting place to be the same ones to arrive at the court house.
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Open office doesn't have much of a chance unless they somehow can combat the M$ wallet.
Netscape got screwed because of exculsive contracts that blocked it from being preloaded on most PCs.
Corel got screwed because if failed to adopt Windows fast enough, then was blocked as Netscape was, and then was given the death blow when Microsoft flooded the market with "illegal" WWF(world wide fullfilment) copies of Office 97. Who was going to buy WordPerfect when you could get a copy of Office 97 with no manual for $35?
Office is now 90 market share. What does any other product offer that M$ doesn't? And what makes it worth the cost of changing platforms? Most everyone allready HAS office. What is the point?
The only think that was good about that movie was the bellyflop the saucer section. That on the big screen was cool. I mean get real. Having to watch Kirk is too much. Having to watch him die TWICE...*shudder* And of course there are clips of the orignal second death scene out on the net that I've seen. So I was a sadist and watched him die THREE times.
Hee. Yeah and I must of given execute rights to the everybody group because everybody tries to tell me what to do. My wife, my boss, my taxman, and my mother-in-law thinks she's got SUDO privileges.
...I have 5 freeken' servers to backup and now you want me to backup my brain as well. And of course I've got to test the backups, so now I've got to find time to go get a lobotomy so I can reload from backup.
I don't understand how Walmart expects to sell this stuff. The price tag that is on this kind of computer will appeal to the Lowest Common Denominator customer. One that doesn't have money or the internet. So how are they supposed to buy it without internet access? And if they do buy one and when they can't run the lastest games(re:windows based games on it) they will return them. (Or pirate old copies of Windows 98 to run on them.)
Most people "in the know" would avoid them would they not? Most Linux geeks that I know would want high end equipment not cheap junk. I've got an old celeron that has trouble running X. How the heck is this going to run Lindows, lycoris or Mandrake 9?
So I can't figure out who this is marketed at? College students? First time "trailer home" computer buyers?
Some one there made a bad business move IMHO.If you have stock in Walmart I'd sell.
...with this problem. I really didn't want to read the flame war over the GNU/Ants vs Ants name. And If I use a patented bug spray to kill the ants will RMS refuse to speak to me? And if it was Microsoft we'd have Visual Ants, AntXP, .ANT OK...I'll shut up now...
How is this any better then a Palm OS or PocketPC device? One can argue size matters but other than that why should I plunk down hard cash for one when my handspring visor does that allready?
I said it was "Sort of a Military Honey Pot" I didn't say that they set up a machine to be cracked.
I said that they watched him once he started to see how good he was or to see if he had any others working with him. One is entrapment the other is a stakeout.
First its stolen. Then its slashdotted! Now I never get to read it....
NO NO Don't mod me. Please! I'm too young to die as a stupid troll. {click} Damn, I'm bleeding karma all over my keyboard.
100 sites seems a bit much to me. I wonder if they let him work for some time before moving in just so they could judge how good he was or perhaps who else he was connected to. Sort of a military honey pot.
NO! NO! don't mod me! I'm too young to die a troll. {click} Oh the pain, the pain...
Yikes. So this will change RMS into a right wing ultra conserative and gates will give away Windows for Free.
but it was copy protected.
its called the "GNU/unified shell prompt experience."
Earth: Final Conflict? Are you serious? The first season of that show was good. But they screwed with all the characters and killed off Boone to replace him with some dork with a boffed hairdo and even worse acting skills then the actor that played Boone. I watched 3 maybe 4 episodes of the second season and never watched it again. A great plot line with no real good guys and no real bad guys everything grey blown to bits by idiots trying to make the show look sexy.
Hmm, I'm not seeing it today. I just checked. Maybe Its cookied me and its blocked...
Even more annoying then the stickers was the Weather.com site. Yesterday (10/24/02)It had a damn MSN butterfly that followed the mouse cursor everywhere. (at least on IE6. I didn't try it on my Linux box with mozilla.) I wrote to the advertising email address to complain and they must of had a bunch of complaints because today it's gone.
I'm a big fan of Free Software(as in freedom) but when you give up, by choice, your ability to protect your rights to control the copying of the software you give up the rights to dictate terms about the name.
/. troll will no doubt call me a jerk and tell me the name. Please do.) who stupidly put the song in the public domain. This guy got angered when Rush used his song. Rush did it deliberatly just to tweak the guys nose. Had the artist copywritten the work, Rush couldn't have used it. If Richard Stalman had a stronger copyright then he could force the name be called GNU/Linux.
200lbs of compressed WAAAH!
Rush Limbaugh has a theme song. It was written by some communist type (Forgive me, I forget the name of the artist. Some commie
Personally I don't call it Linux. Linux is only the kernel. I run Red Hat or Mandrake. It uses a Kernel by Linux, various tools by GNU, and a Gui by Xfree,Gnome, and KDE.
So per RMS I running REDHATGNULINUXXFREEKDEGNOME.
Of fsck it! Just give me a Mac.
Forgive any spelling or grammer errors.
But I'm not sure about this. I'm having enough trouble getting email I WANT to receive, such as newsletters and mailed digests of newsgroups. Nitwits that forget that they signed up for a newsletter report the sender as a spammer and those stupid idiots at spamcop will block things like lockergnome and Fred Langa.
Who going to watch the watchers? Why can't _I_ deside what is spam and what isn't?
Am I the only one that is wondering if the fight against spam is causing more harm then good lately?
This could be a good thing in the long run. The DIVX movie disks were pretty much the same thing as this is and the public learned quickly that is was just another way to fleece the end user. This will give people the first taste of the future. It will piss them off just like Divx movies did. Microsoft should talk to Circuit City. This will not help CD sales. It will kill them. Hopefully the industry will learn.
Maybe I incorrect about this but I thought anyone could build any thing that they wanted so long as they paid royalities to the patent owner?
So if I invent the widget and get a patent on it and Mr.X builds and sells it then he is suppose to pay me?
Is this a concept that would apply here or am I incorrect on how patent law now works? If that is allowed then wouldn't that prevent disallowing reverse engineering? Would it not make it legal as long as you paid the patent owner?
So? What is stopping you from still doing that? Everybody is all up in arms about how this is going to kill gnome or KDE. There is nothing requiring you to INSTALL Red Hat's Nullified KDE/Gnome. Unselect the freekin' package and then go download your copy of KDE off of the KDE website. Or Gnome if your a gnome user. Some users might think that the combinded product will rock. Leave it to /. trolls to have a knee jerk reactions. Linux is about choice. You can use Red Hat 8 or NOT. Your not forced to upgrade your not forced to stay with Red Hat. There are OTHER distros. If you don't like what Red Hat is doing then go get Mandrake or roll your own.
I for one applaud RH for trying to provide a streamlined distro for the masses. Linux is too varied and too complex for the adverage computer users to adopt and use. The users that are bitching and moaning about this are the ones most able to change and modify there system to one they prefer.
This is NOT about removing two options. It's more about providing a THRID option that is streamlined with the entire distro. For many users that would be a desired feature.
Forgive my misspellings and grammer....
Why should we use that either? How can you be sure that the damn machine isn't rigged? Will they open the machine up and let me disasemble and examine it for tampering before I vote? I will not trust such a thing! The only method I'll trust is a paper ballot that I can hand count and only if they hand count the ballots AT THE POLLING PLACE in full view of the public and agents of the ones being elected. Elections in the USA are often rigged. I don't vote because of that. I am mostly conservative and was glad that Bush won but I know that both Bush AND Gore tried to rig the election. It's all a fraud. Now if they want to use any kind of machine either mechanical or electronic that produces a printed ballot, listing what the vote was. I can live with that. But again only if they hand count them onsite.
Frankly I don't trust any ballot method in use today. Why? Because they don't count the ballots at the polling place in full view of the public. You place a check mark on paper, pull a lever in box, punch a hole in a card, color a circle on a card or push a box on a touch screen. All the results are then hauled off unseen to be counted in secret. Why is it REQUIRED that we get results instantly? It is just a bullshit system designed from the ground up to be rigged at the drop of a wad of cash. I'll never trust a electronic voting machine any more then I do a mechanical one and I don't trust the ballots to be the same ones that left any voting place to be the same ones to arrive at the court house.