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Star Trek Nemesis Preview Online
T-Kir writes "Originally from a news link at Trekweb, iFilm has a preview of Star Trek Nemesis in WMP, Real and Quicktime formats, it is also recommended you view with a broadband connection. [ed. snip] All in all a nice piece of eye candy until the films release on December 13th." This is a long trailer with lots of spoilers - you've been warned.
How cool is that - the anti Picard. Wonder if that can be used to power some kind of warp drive....
"A long trailer with lots of spoilers"
Sounds like a NASCARedneck fixed hisself a mobile home that's ultra-stable on the freeway.
You can never equivocate too much.
Dammit, dammit, dammit. I have no control. Must - watch - trailer - or - brain - will - collapse.
Did it. Are you happy now? No use to go see it.
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I'm surprised that I haven't seen more (any really) previews on television for Nemesis. Maybe I just haven't caught them but I usually catch at least one television preview for any given big-budget movie during it's marketing time. The only advertisements for Nemesis that I've seen have been posters in theaters when I'm out seeing some other movie. Am I the only one who thinks that this film may suffer from a poor marketing campaign? Heck, I didn't even know when this film was slated to come out until this ./ story!
As with the sun's light
My mom was magnificent
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I saw this trailer in the cinema last night, as it happens, and boy, do the effects look good on a big screen...
But isn't it about time the Next Gen crew went off into quiet retirement and someone else got a shot at a Trek movie? At least this one looks darker and more interesting than some of the recent output...
I'm not personally hopeful for this installment of the ST movie series. There are some excessively stupid plot elements involved, such as the whole "save us at the last second" thing that has been beat to death, the cliché of cloning and the Data transferrance thing. I don't want to be more specific so as to give away the movie, but if it's anything even remotely like the script summaries I've read linked from AICN, then this movie will be a huge flaming turd on arrival. Yeah, Harry Knowles is a Hutt with a slime trail behind him, but this time I think he's got the right idea. Sad way to end this branch of the movie series with this crew.
Only the biggest trekkies will be at this release. Planning on releasing the movie right inbetween the newest bond and the two towers (that preorder tickets go on sale tomorrow, btw). It just seems like they shoulda tried to release it before "Die Another Day" to get higher opening day ticket sales, instead of battling the other two movies for income.
Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
Oh no... I hope they don't really make it to earth and kill everything!
Wait, Enterprise could just sling-shot around the sun for a do-over... never mind.
I find trailers that give away too much of the movie to be very annoying. Thanks for the warning! I'm going to stay away this time.
Aw crap, ninjas!
You know what that means, get your questions ready! Slashdot interview with Patrick Stewart in 7 years!!
You forgot the, "What does God need with a Starship??" one...
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Enjoy.....
Is the Reman some sort of clone, Borg Hybrid, Picard love child, or what?
Star Trek XI: The Search for Data will be the best movie since Star Trek III: The Search for Spock.
I'll field the first question, but really, I get the feeling you're just being trite.
/. story? Hey, I'm gonna post the Apple quicktime area as a "story."
So:
> How does the preview of a movie rate a
It answers this in the header: "News for nerds." Last I heard, the jocks were still leaving most of the seats in any given theatre showing a Star Trek movie empty, thoughtfully leaving them for the nerds.
"Old man yells at systemd"
Looks like a long boring episode where there is some unknown force messing with people's heads. Ummm, wasn't this last night's episode of Enterprise?
geeks like fall into two categories-
startrek fans or starwars fans.
a movie from either is considered a message from heaven/satan, depending on your point of view.
this is important because now the 50% that are startrek fans are preparing to travel to their mecca(movie theatre) and await a sign.
it's completely a religious thing at this point:)
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I didn't notice you in the trailer ... did they edit you out of the movie or something ;-p
Seriously - what was your characters role in the plot, since they decided they cut remove him?
We do not live in the 21st century. We live in the 20 second century.
The minute I saw the unknown man at the console (helm?), I knew he was dead. Welshy!!!!
(could be just me, of course)
HTH
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Ok, I will be the first to admit I like Startrek. I have watched most of the movies and seen most of the episodes, I even own the Startrek encyclopedia. But damnit Jim I just can't take another Startrek movie or series!
Is anyone else sick of trailers giving away key plot developments. To me a perfect trailer is more of a teaser. It should entice you. It should make you want to see the movie. But it shouldn't tell the whole story.
Just my 2 cents (or non-cents *groan*)
~ "When I'm of that age I'm just going to live up a tree."
What about us "Blake's 7" fans?!!!
But isn't it about time the Next Gen crew went off into quiet retirement and someone else got a shot at a Trek movie?
Surely you can't mean Star Trek: Voyager: The Motion Picture!!!
*Runs away screaming*
20 minutes waiting just to download the 8 second "Ifilm.com" ad
To make laws that man cannot, and will not obey, serves to bring all law into contempt.
--E.C. Stanton
Let's see: a big bad something threatens the Earth/Galaxy and Picard and Data and some other guys have to beat up the big bad guy and save the day.
Along the way, various minor cast members will have short/throwaway scenes, but most of the real meat of the plot will involve Picard and Data.
There will be a Worf joke.
Not like we haven't seen 3 of these already, you know.
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I am excited this is the Tenth movie that is in the Star Trek line of movies, and it is with the old crew of TNG, which i feel was the best series (others may argue) Agreed I hate trailers that ruin the movie, so i will stay away as well. I will definetly be at the opening night showing!
Someone you trust is one of us.
Like, do they show the part where data dies?
[KIDDING!!!]
[...or am I???]
As of right NOW... its not working... i get a page not found error when trying to load the trailor or the preview...... So... did slashdot /. ifilm? will this mean the mpaa going after the evil slashdot hackers for DoS'ing ifilm's website?
Criticizing the plot of a Star Trek movie is like going out and buying a "Fat Chicks with Huge Jugs" magazine and complaining about the lack of literary value.
:).
It's a Star Trek movie. Of course it's going to be mindless action and sci-fi. Duh. Doesn't mean it's not worth seeing (though it may well not be
bah, you don't know what you are talking about. This movie is going to rock, kick ass enterprise gets the living SHI* knocked out of it and then comes back for some good time phaser action while picard deals with this upstart clone and bitch slaps him back to whatever tank he came out of. must go to movie, be a good slave to star trek, blow a load when enterprise pulls some manoveur and saves the day!
...I guess you could call this installment:
"Captain's log, supplemental"
does he have a divx or a copy of the script?
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For those that don't already know... this movie is rumored to be the starting point for a new series ("Fall of the Federation") to star Riker, Troi, etc (no Picard or Data)... Read about it here...which would explain the comment Picard makes in one of trailers...
" Only the biggest trekkies will be at this release. Planning on releasing the movie right inbetween the newest bond and the two towers (that preorder tickets go on sale tomorrow, btw). It just seems like they shoulda tried to release it before "Die Another Day" to get higher opening day ticket sales, instead of battling the other two movies for income."
Dare I say it?
Let the battle of the blands begin!
Cuz even in the 24th century, they still can't handle a good, old-fashioned slashdotting...
Would it kill them to use a non-proprietary codec??
Doesn't work anymore.
...at the cinema a couple of weeks back. (before Road to Perdition. Now if only I could actually find a cinema showing Donnie Darko, but that's a story for another time.) I can't say I was over excited, a few bits didn't seem "right", almost as if they where trying to aim it at the action flick audience. Like when they jump some buggy thing off a cliff in to the back of a shuttle! Um......
"Nerds" I understood, yeah, okay. "News" I don't see in this post. There's been a Nemesis trailer on Apple's site for a long while now.
There's a poor ST movie every year and a half. When someone develops a way to set networked time agents based on the predictable arrival of yet another weak Star Trek movie, or if the next y2k scare is that the internet backbone may go down whenever there's every another good ST movie, that will be "news."
"Fundamentalism" isn't about divine morality. It's about human authority.
The last Star Trek movie, Resurrection, was released in 1998! That's a 4-years gap! All the previous movies were released every 1 or 2 years.
Why the huge time gap?
would it kill you to use the same codec that 99% of the population uses?
I mean, really, its APPLE QUICKTIME!! its not like its RealPlayer (which is demon spawn, if I might add), so its not Microsoft sleaze...
I dont use certain players, and realize that I cant view certain things. But its my CHOICE. These players are available to me, and I COULD use them, but I dont, so I dont complan.
grow up.
This is my sig. Its pathetic.
I'm surprised that I haven't seen more (any really) previews on television for Nemesis.
I've been thinking the same thing but I'm starting to worry if the studio thinks the movie is going to be a bomb. As others have mentioned, there is stiff competition in the action/adventure genre from Bond and LotR. Perhaps they are worried that it just won't be able to keep pace and they are cutting their losses by not spending much on advertisting. The die-hard Trek fans will go to see it anyhow. A lot of people will go see any film just because they are tired of holiday shopping. The number-crunchers at Paramount may have calculated that negative word-of-mouth will override any benefit obtained by an aggressive marketing campaign.
Just my thoughts. But I have already read one review for the movie that suggests that this film will not even come close to fulfilling expectations for a film billed as the "final TNG adventure".
GMD
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Going by the Trek Movie LAW, your assumption is irrelevent.
Odd numbered movies are inferior, and will be assimilated.
The DVD and VHS will be added to our Collection.
Resistance of Even numbered movies is futile.
I'll go see ST 11 if, and only if 7 of 9 is present, and is scantily clad.
Saskboy's blog is good. 9 out of 10 dentists agree.
GEE THANK YOU FOR SETTING ME STRAIGHT! I guess since 99% of the population uses it it MUST be good!
From where I'm sitting there is no significant difference between "APPLE QUICKTIME", "RealPlayer demon spawn" and "Microsoft sleaze". It's the same tune sung by different vocalists.
Silently not using certain players pointless. In my experience not using certain players and requesting media in other formats is not.
Oh, and when you actually take the time out of your busy day to spell out "thanks" you're a lot more convincing when you tell people to grow up.
In the documentary, wasn't the Trek screenplay that 14 year-old (Gabriel Koerner) was working on named, "Nemesis"?
no where did I say that proprietary codecs were good, I merely said that if a product is released in X format, and you dont have X format, than you are SOL. There are things like real player which will NOT touch my hard drive, and as such I cant hear things that use it, but I dont complain, I just dont use those sites. If you really wanted to see the trailer (or whatever) you'd get off your high horse and install QT (or whatever).
so go back to your little cubicle and pray to the linux gods or scrawling M$ sux over and over or whatever it is you do, and miss out on life because of some "ideals" that if its not on linux its bad, and let the rest of us use the bandwidth you arent worthy of to actually watch the trailer.
wanker.
This is my sig. Its pathetic.
A warp drive that goes to 11.
have you watched any of the Star Wreck Episodes... they are rather funny.
They evolved over time - so the newest ones are the best. Another thing by some crazy Fin.
Star Wreck!
I am a little confused I couldn;t get the trailer to play on ifilms.com so I went to the apple.com and site watched the teaser trailer and the full trailer.
Is the ifilms.com trailer different? What is the spoiler?
BTW- if you post a reply and want to tell me the spoiler I don't mind - either way i'm going to see the movie
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The link is an interesting read. However I was struck by two things. First he claims he is turning 30. Second he says his child is 13. 30 - 13 = 17. IMHO thats a wee bit young to be a dad. Then again him and his kid could sit around playing PS2 games and snarfing cheetos.
"Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
1. The Holodeck is strictly off limits. It may not be metioned, alluded to, or featured as a plot element.
2. Only the badguys quote Shakespear.
3. NOBODY quotes or signs songs from musicals. Not Rogers and Hammerstein. Not Andrew Lloyd Webber. ESPECIALLY not Gilbert and Sullivan!
4. Everybody who dies stays dead.
5. Time-travel is permitted, but must be used as a humourous plot element, and not as part of the denoument.
6. Villans must be sane, intelligent, calculating and preferrably vengeful. Regardless, all villans must have beleivable motivation. Insane, god-like beings need not appear.
7. Little or no new technology should be introduced in the course of the movie, epecially technology relating to time-travel or the holodeck. If technology is introduced it should be treated with care-- do not show a knife on screen unless it's going to end up in someone's back!
8. Redshirts must die by the score.
9. There must be at least 25 minutes of space battle footage in which at least one ship is violently and graphically ripped apart.
and
10. The Enterprise must suffer heavy, even crippling damage in the course of the fight. It may even be destroyed.
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Just take the " " out of the url: /wm.ifilm.na- central/ becomes /wm.ifilm.na-central/
They were actually going on a real life mission...(like in Galaxy Quest)
:)
They had to go fight klingons on uranus.
(I'm sorry...I've been up for 36 hours working on this asm program, and I think I broke something in my brain.)
nbfn
We'll be able to see the Weaton's part that got cut out on the DVD.
Technoli
Go to Apple's site to get a better viewing of the Trailer. http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/star_trek_ nemesis/
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The only think that was good about that movie was the bellyflop the saucer section. That on the big screen was cool. I mean get real. Having to watch Kirk is too much. Having to watch him die TWICE...*shudder* And of course there are clips of the orignal second death scene out on the net that I've seen. So I was a sadist and watched him die THREE times.
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Personally, I prefer Babylon 5 to any of them
Technoli
Rednecks live in trailers. A spoiler is a big fin on the back of a car, especially race cars. Get it yet? Dumbass.
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Yay!
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:)
I smile everytime a Star Trek related article appears on
Unless it has to do with Wesley Crusher, that is.
Yay! So happy!
'nuff said.
"Good, Bad. I'm the guy with the photon torpedos!"
I am a long time sci-fi fan.
I seen almost all of the Star Trek movies in the Theater, except the last few of old ST movies. The movies got so badly written, I could not bare to watch, even on video.
Even with the TNG movies, Generations was maybe the best. I think from the trailer, that I watched before Harry Potter 2. I need not watch the movie, since the plot and everything we given it.
The only really cool space shows of late have been Babylon 5, Farscape, first season the Andromeda, Lex (though it is just a bit weird) reminds me of some of the old British sci-fi shows.
I do not know why TV executives think shows need to be dumb down, but to me it is killing sci-fi not helping it and nether does being over PC help.....
Wise men speak because they have something to say, Fools because they have to say something!!!!
Right on! Dr. Who is the greatest sci-fi show ever, and had the longest run. The B&W episodes were really campy, but they're fun. The later ones were just amazing. The Fox tv movie was pretty good, but I'm not sure if a series by Fox of the Doctor would have been a good thing or a bad thing. I just can't wait for the new episode written by Douglas Adams.
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"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." --George Orwell
Here:
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http://www.ifilm.com/ifilm/media/media_qt_smil/
Paste into the "Open URL in new player" field...
cheers
front
http://anon.ifilm.speedera.net/anon.ifilm/qt/porta l/2457975_200.mov
they might change it but it's working now
The newer ones are so bad.
A trained monkey could come up with a better script than the last 7 movies (and the Star Trek Movies).
Star Trek - Planet of the Hippies (Insurrection) was so bad that I'm hesitant to see this movie.
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is this a production cut? or were they just using the orcs from the neighboring sets until the romulans got good and ready?
Gees, I'm not sure how my original post got a "+5 Informative" because I didn't even include the link to the review I read! I mean, "+3 Insightful" or "+4 Interesting" I can understand...
Anyhow, here's the review I mentioned. Needless to say, plot spoilers are featured. Like I said, the review makes Nemesis sound like an okay, but not great, Trek flick.
GMD
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The numbering system doesn't work for the movies if you're interested in space babes, though:
1: Sexy bald chick2: Space skanks
3: Were there any chicks in this one besides Savvak and Uhura?
4: Kinda sexy whale-lovin' mama
5: Muscle-bound klingon
6: Iman. 'Nuff said.
7: Whoopi Goldberg? Gees...
8: When chicks do that abdomen wrigging thing, it's sexier if they're actually connected to their hips at the time...
9: Sexy mature quail who's read one to many "live life to the fullest" self-help books
10: Who knows? But originally 7 of 9 was going to cameo and they decided to go with Janeway. Doesn't look good...
GMD
watch this
The Trek preview was OK but the FOX clip with Freudian slip about J-Blow by the news anchor was way better.
Barclay: The numbers all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven, eleven, eleven and -
Data: Oh, I see. And most warp drives go up to ten?
Barclay: Exactly.
Data: Does that mean it's faster?
Barclay: Well, it's one faster, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be cruising at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your wap drive. Where can you go from there? Where?
Data: I don't know.
Barclay: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?
Data: Put it up to eleven.
Barclay: Eleven. Exactly. One faster.
Data: Why don't you just make ten faster and make ten be the top number and make that a little faster?
Barclay: [Pause] These go to eleven.
I'd suggest you don't use Slashdot as your only news source, or you will suffer permanent brain damage.
http://anon.ifilm.speedera.net/anon.ifilm/qt/porta l/2446661_200.movq t-libwine-howto.txt
http://mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/tech/
watch for speed bumps : "...qt/porta l/22..." (remove space)
Im not here now... Im out KILLING pepperoni
Wait, so when I watched the quicktime version of this on my mac when I first got the thing that was sent back in time by the /. effect.
btw, MoL is a lot better than crossover plugin for those kinds of things.
You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
its not exactally an anti-picard... ...it is bald also!
BTW this is downloadable, and not just a stream (which is unlike the asf).
Im not here now... Im out KILLING pepperoni
I have read the shooting script and seen a pre-release version of this movie. What I am about to say may possibly ruin it, so consider yourself warned.
This movie sucked major ass!
It is based on a completely retarded premise where the Romulans cloned Jean-Luc Picard but put an arbitrary limit on the clone's lifespan.
Shinzon, henceforce called Shitz-on, needs to kill Picard to fix his DNA.
That's it. That's the whole fucking plot.
Sure, there's a wedding at the beginning that's kind of cool, but they cut Wil Wheaton's part (at least in the version I saw. He wasn't in the script I read either). But the movie degrades from this point into something I'd rather never have seen.
Did you know that there's another Data clone running around too? Yeah, he's called B-9. Did you know that they kill off Data? Yup. He commits "andro-cide". Of course, there's a scene where Data and Jordie "download" Data's positronic net into the B-9, so I'm sure -- if Paramount ever needs to -- they can bring him back.
If you're one of those that belives in the whole even-odd theory be prepared for a shocker.
Star Trek 10 is the biggest piece of shit I've ever had the sad displeasure of watching.
I have told everyone I know not to ever see this movie.
Isn't this the same trailer that has been on Apple's trailer website for the longest time?
This has been up on Apple's Quicktime site for ever! That front page story was soooo news. Not.
/.
Come on people, it is this continual old news that is hurting
They crash and destroy the ship again? These guys are never going to be able to get insurance now.
how can it be a bomb when all over Del Taco I see nothing but adverts for it? I mean Del Taco is like pure gold for movies and the box office!
Come on people..... Del Taco.
This trailer has been available for at least a month on startrek.com and apple.com
You guys gotta get on the ball man!
Mouse, Mice. Goose, Geese. Moose... Moose?
Actually, it's because in Nemesis he dies saving Picard. It's right at the end - Picard is on a ship about to self-destruct, and Data hurls himself through space, planting a small transporter device on him, saving Picard.
StoneTrek
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Bad choice of font for the trailer titles. Really. I mean, the "F" and "I" in "Final Journey" are so damn close together that for the second the words are up it looks like "Anal Journey".
Now there's a ST movie I'd watch.
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Includes Star Trekkin' "Music Video".
hmmm
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read that.. then i'd like to point your attention to the foundation series by Asiac asimov, seems that star trek is gonna rip off AA just like star wars did.. what with the fall and rebuilding of an empire.
sucks
--stubert
"I merely said that if a product is released in X format, and you dont have X format, than you are SOL."
Here in the real world there are these nearly magical programs that will extract things from proprietary formats for conversion into XviD or what-have-you. The catch is that you've got to have the codecs installed to do it.
"I just dont use those sites"
That's right, just keep your goddamn mouth shut and sit at the back of the bus like you're supposed to. I don't usually call people tools, but in your case I think I'll make an exception.
"and miss out on life because of some 'ideals' that if its not on linux its bad"
This isn't about linux or Microsoft, you fucktard. It's about a future with no history because it's all locked up in DRM-encrusted formats that can't be viewed or salvaged because the companies that made them ditched them or went out of business or were borged and had the responsible divisions eliminated.
But I don't expect you to actually understand that, so on second thought: Have fun watching the spoilerific trailer for the final crappy TNG movie and enjoy the -1 (Flamebait)!
This was supposed to illustrate the impossibility of any object with mass getting to the speed of light, because as that speed is approached (relative to the outside world), distances shorten, time slows, and mass increases. The "everywhere at once" was a way of describing all distances shortening to zero, mass being multiplied by infinity (if other than zero, couldn't be done), and time standing still. That was then (Astronomy and Math dept, ca. 1989). I hear things have changed quite a bit, but that's what this "warp 10 max" sounds like to me. Funny that they're using the same limitations that were claimed for the speed of light.
I remember that "warp 13" business. But then, I remember watching a movie where a victim had "5th degree burns" -- hehehe. Unless they were talking about sideburns, I don't think it could be done.
... let me rest in peace now!
I would very much prefer to download this trailer to a file on disk, why? my connection is erratic, sometimes quick and sometimes slow, and my route to a server halfway across the world doesnt help much.
watching video in such conditions would be very annoying, but downloading it to watch later wouldnt bother me atall. So then, why dont any of these sites offer an option to do that?
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Well, now that we've reduced ourselves to the point where the 13 year olds playing on CS servers would feel at home, lets go over the facts: 1) Apple is hosting the sight, and they did the preview in quicktime. Quicktime is free. The sight is free. You can use it, or not use it. No where does it say that they have to put it up in a non proprietary format. They ARE promoting the use of their software, after all. If you don't like the format, then dont use it. 2) the -1 flamebait hit you as well as me, and I have karma to burn. 3) You are an idiot. A simple minded, living in a cave, racist, mother needs to die in a car accident but not until after 14 hours of excruciating pain, man-humping, zealot. Take those two things on the insides of your hand, yes, the thing we civilized people call "thumbs" and shove them up your rear. I wash my hands of you. Wanker.
This is my sig. Its pathetic.
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