If the ISPs had any balls, they'd tell the HI government that, if they pass this law, the ISPs would simply cease to provide internet service to HI residents. And if they do pass the bill, make good on the promise. It's either that or be forced by the HI government to buy terabytes of disk space and thousands of dollars of computers to track everything the HI internet user does.
Politicians should not make laws about technology that they don't understand.
You mean the balls to go out of business?
1) You can also go out of business by being mandated costs you cannot afford.
2) Most companies providing Internet in the US now are multi-state, so dropping one would not end their corporate existence.
But, if this applies to hotel Internet as well, I could see the hotels dropping it, and if all the tourists suddenly go WTF together...
In the same way that U.S. authorities enforced the warrant against MegaUpload (HK based company, owned by german-finnish citizen currently residing in NZ...): Uni-, bi-, multiliteral contracts, I guess.
But I fear for our good-but-still-not-enough german laws. I'll bet they'll be watered down to a great degree.
I would be fun to see the UK extradite from the US for a change...
Oh, and also in case you hadn't noticed, the EU hasn't actually signed ACTA yet. Technically they have until March next year, IIRC, though I expect someone will try to sneak it through in the very near future before the politicians realise it's too close to SOPA and PIPA (in some respects) and likely to cause similar grief.
Also, while the European Commission (the unelected guys who seem to be behind the secret negotiations) still publicly support ACTA, whether they can get it through the European Parliament (the elected guys who recently got new teeth under the Lisbon Treaty and seem to be enjoying exercising their powers) is a different question.
That would make sense, but the politicians all over the world seem to be doing the opposite of what is sensible. Once again, the entire world of elites are ignoring the people. And once again, there will come a point where the people remind them that they are outnumbered.
I agree, but for a different reason. ACTA. This says that have to keep stuff secret, or not keep it, and ACTA says they have to keep it, and give it to the *IAAs. The media industry will not want this loophole.
It takes a lot of time and money to (re)build a coastal city, and it's not like you can just pick up the city's buildings and move them all whenever the coastline moves.
Yes. And I lived on a boat at a marina in the gulf of Mexico built in the 50s. Somehow the piers are not any lower than the were 60 years ago... Hmmm... Not saying there isn't something to worry about. Just that I no longer believe the ranting of the press at all. They have totally lost credibility, and no one can argue that. (No matter how many "Troll" mods I get from people who disagree)
The concern now is that there are too many people living along the coasts to be accommodated inland.
I guess you have never seen west Texas... And for that matter, lots of other places currently not very nice to live in that will be much nicer in a warmer and wetter world.
What back and forth? They have been "telling us so" for the last 20 years, and it still hasn't happened. With that kind of track record, your credibility is somewhat strained... Two things I know are that this is not the year the ice caps melt, and this is not the year of Linux on the desktop. (Ironically posted from a Linux desktop)
Not really. Look at MikeRoweworks.com for a counterpoint. There are many people making very good money in jobs needing only apprenticeship or a associate degree. Unemployment in many skilled blue collar jobs is very low. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo-cUZ2aRKc I can't say it better than this...
It sounded to me like they took some of those screen writers that have been putting out that drivel in Hollywood and transferred them to the legal team.
Depending on the bank, they can suck your account negative, and then the bank sues you. But the real problem is that you have to go to this much trouble to use them. Much easier to use someone else.
Apparently you dont know what a straw man is, but regardless my point is that every time one of these stupid internet monitoring bills comes up people make claims like "If DMCA passes, the US will be just like North Korea!" And guess what, it passed, and we still arent North Korea, and now everyone knows that youre just an ignorant loon.
Does it have some awful provisions? Sure. We can discuss that like adults. Are we Nazi Germany? No, we're not, and you drag the conversation into the ground when you assert that.
"A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position." (Pirie, Madsen (2007). How to Win Every Argument: The Use and Abuse of Logic. UK: Continuum International Publishing Group. ISBN 978-0-8264-9894-6.)
So perhaps you should go back and actually read my post(s). I did not say we would turn into Belarus overnight with one law. I said that we keep moving further that way, and we keep getting closer. Go and watch the movie "The Hunt For Red October" and listen for the line as the Russian solder is dieing. He is talking with Sean Connery about crossing America with no papers. He can not believe it. Well, he was correct. You can not take a plane, train, or bus without papers now, and good luck driving across the country without hitting a checkpoint somewhere and having to show a license.
Most dictatorships start out looking good to the people. Hitler was seen as a hero. Castro was a man of the people. Dictatorships and fascism sneak up while people like you are pointing to straw men.
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The Internet was one of those things built for the military... Funded by DARP too. Doh!
Thanks for the +5, but this was not intended to be funny.
If the ISPs had any balls, they'd tell the HI government that, if they pass this law, the ISPs would simply cease to provide internet service to HI residents. And if they do pass the bill, make good on the promise. It's either that or be forced by the HI government to buy terabytes of disk space and thousands of dollars of computers to track everything the HI internet user does. Politicians should not make laws about technology that they don't understand.
You mean the balls to go out of business?
1) You can also go out of business by being mandated costs you cannot afford.
2) Most companies providing Internet in the US now are multi-state, so dropping one would not end their corporate existence.
But, if this applies to hotel Internet as well, I could see the hotels dropping it, and if all the tourists suddenly go WTF together...
Camera on head time,grafted to skulls?
No... That could film the police. Can't have that.
You voluntarily interacted with a server in the US. You voluntarily gave that server information.
In the same way that U.S. authorities enforced the warrant against MegaUpload (HK based company, owned by german-finnish citizen currently residing in NZ ...): Uni-, bi-, multiliteral contracts, I guess.
But I fear for our good-but-still-not-enough german laws. I'll bet they'll be watered down to a great degree.
I would be fun to see the UK extradite from the US for a change...
Really? Ask Kim Dotcom and his partners in Europe about that.
I am less worried about the police than the media industry.
If the website you input your data into is hosted in the US, the company did not transfer your data, you did.
Perhaps you haven't noticed, but being associated with Big Media is pretty much toxic for politicians right now.
It may be toxic, but they don't seem to care! http://torrentfreak.com/australia-us-copyright-colony-or-just-a-good-friend-120121/
Oh, and also in case you hadn't noticed, the EU hasn't actually signed ACTA yet. Technically they have until March next year, IIRC, though I expect someone will try to sneak it through in the very near future before the politicians realise it's too close to SOPA and PIPA (in some respects) and likely to cause similar grief.
Poland is looking to sign it now. That was the reason for all those attacks, and they seem to be pushing them forward against the public wishes. http://politics.slashdot.org/story/12/01/25/0211219/piratbyran-co-founder-says-stop-ddosing-polish-sites
Also, while the European Commission (the unelected guys who seem to be behind the secret negotiations) still publicly support ACTA, whether they can get it through the European Parliament (the elected guys who recently got new teeth under the Lisbon Treaty and seem to be enjoying exercising their powers) is a different question.
That would make sense, but the politicians all over the world seem to be doing the opposite of what is sensible. Once again, the entire world of elites are ignoring the people. And once again, there will come a point where the people remind them that they are outnumbered.
I agree, but for a different reason. ACTA. This says that have to keep stuff secret, or not keep it, and ACTA says they have to keep it, and give it to the *IAAs. The media industry will not want this loophole.
It takes a lot of time and money to (re)build a coastal city, and it's not like you can just pick up the city's buildings and move them all whenever the coastline moves.
You can move them up... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venice
Yes. And I lived on a boat at a marina in the gulf of Mexico built in the 50s. Somehow the piers are not any lower than the were 60 years ago... Hmmm... Not saying there isn't something to worry about. Just that I no longer believe the ranting of the press at all. They have totally lost credibility, and no one can argue that. (No matter how many "Troll" mods I get from people who disagree)
The concern now is that there are too many people living along the coasts to be accommodated inland.
I guess you have never seen west Texas... And for that matter, lots of other places currently not very nice to live in that will be much nicer in a warmer and wetter world.
What back and forth? They have been "telling us so" for the last 20 years, and it still hasn't happened. With that kind of track record, your credibility is somewhat strained... Two things I know are that this is not the year the ice caps melt, and this is not the year of Linux on the desktop. (Ironically posted from a Linux desktop)
Not really. Look at MikeRoweworks.com for a counterpoint. There are many people making very good money in jobs needing only apprenticeship or a associate degree. Unemployment in many skilled blue collar jobs is very low. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo-cUZ2aRKc I can't say it better than this...
It sounded to me like they took some of those screen writers that have been putting out that drivel in Hollywood and transferred them to the legal team.
Captive Portal is also in dd-wrt, m0n0wall and pfSense.
Also, dd-wrt, M0n0wall, and pfSense all have "captive portal" built in. I use M0n0wall and pfSense in lots of hotels now.
She did have an expert examine it before the sale. Yes, she has a claim, but against who?
Personally I don't really see why anything old has an excessive value beyond its use.
Next time you see a minor collision between a new car and a Chrysler from the 70's you will see that build quality has changed over the years.
Depending on the bank, they can suck your account negative, and then the bank sues you. But the real problem is that you have to go to this much trouble to use them. Much easier to use someone else.
Yet somehow they can identify antique furniture without playing it. It is more than just sound to prove provenance.
Apparently you dont know what a straw man is, but regardless my point is that every time one of these stupid internet monitoring bills comes up people make claims like "If DMCA passes, the US will be just like North Korea!" And guess what, it passed, and we still arent North Korea, and now everyone knows that youre just an ignorant loon.
Does it have some awful provisions? Sure. We can discuss that like adults. Are we Nazi Germany? No, we're not, and you drag the conversation into the ground when you assert that.
"A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position." (Pirie, Madsen (2007). How to Win Every Argument: The Use and Abuse of Logic. UK: Continuum International Publishing Group. ISBN 978-0-8264-9894-6.)
So perhaps you should go back and actually read my post(s). I did not say we would turn into Belarus overnight with one law. I said that we keep moving further that way, and we keep getting closer. Go and watch the movie "The Hunt For Red October" and listen for the line as the Russian solder is dieing. He is talking with Sean Connery about crossing America with no papers. He can not believe it. Well, he was correct. You can not take a plane, train, or bus without papers now, and good luck driving across the country without hitting a checkpoint somewhere and having to show a license.
But not some "law" that limits access to web sites.
Have you read what SOPA does?
Most dictatorships start out looking good to the people. Hitler was seen as a hero. Castro was a man of the people. Dictatorships and fascism sneak up while people like you are pointing to straw men.