The key is consent... By your definition, they can make rape OK. Doesn't work for rape, and we have lots of case law supporting that. (Even if you are "married" to that 14 year old.)
Not that I agree with the Co$, but the Christians have a formal document abut killing people for lots of reasons... However, most of us do not take it literally, and those that do end up in prison or the loony bin.
I think you started a little late. The Muslim crusades. The Catholic crusades. The Inquisition. (What a show...) The common thread is people... A corrupt person has no problem using anything as an excuse from religion, to communism, to security, to social justice. No "idea" stays pure once people start to use it.
no shit. hey, i bought a PC with a beige case and painted it orange. do i get my own slashdot story now too? we can talk about the technical differences between latex and enamel paints, glossy versus flat, and other really fascinating pieces of technicality! it'll be great... for a slow news day
There have been a few slashdot stories about people painting laptops, and a few on restoring old cases... So, yes.
You can't buy a car and then take out the engine and demand a refund on the engine, so why should you be able to buy a computer and not use the software and demand a refund on that?
I have never tried it on an engine. I have done it with wheels, stereos, and body parts. (Like ugly wings)
Did they read the parent post? He said you can not find a storefront without Windows system. Parent post found one! That was funny, or informative, not off-topic. I am still chuckling...
Did you read the parent post? He said there were online vendors, but no local shops. You posted online vendors... I do agree with the reasoning after, however.
Just makes me think of an old Danny D'vito quote from Other Peoples Money. "Of course I've got lawyers. They are like nuclear weapons: I've got em coz everyone else has. But as soon as you use them they screw everything up."
Really, if you want to spend that kind of money, put it on a card. It would be much faster on the PCI buss that SATA for a negligible incremental cost.
Well, you do have a point in that Stallman brought GPL and open source licensing into the coding world. However, I use several things daily with more open BSD or Apache style licenses that are still free. By your argument, FreeBSD should not exist, yet it does. But it never hit the mainstream public momentum of Linux. While I do not believe it was the license that caused that, it is debatable.
And RMS started GNU in 85. I was using e-mail before then. And I wrote an e-mail client as well... Yes, computers existed before GNU. So did compilers, many of the reasonably priced. So did shareware CD Burning apps, ammong other things.
But look at your last paragraph. If that does not sound like religion, what does? Not saying you are wrong in all of your points, but it is not reason alone that drives them
And for the record, while he started a bit ahead of me, I am not sure if it was before I was born. (Close to that time, however) and we both learned programming on the same first language.
That is the point. Stallman founded a religion, and Torvalds gave us a tool.
Really? Maybe you aren't aware of the tools Stallman wrote? Stallman wrote the first versions of gcc, gdb, emacs, etc.
So if you still want to oversimplify it, this is more accurate: Stallman created tools and created open source. Torvalds created a tool.
Actually I am sure that both men created lots of things. But what one thing stands above the others for each man? Or a better question, do you know more people that have used Linux or emacs? Those original tools were key parts needed for Linux to happen. But it was Linux that busted into the mainstream.
If anyone, it should be Stallman, for writing the GPL, for starting the free software movement and spreading knowlege of the existence of free software and for explicitly backing a public cause, and basically dedicating his life to it. In comparison, Torvalds is just an above average software engineer/project manager, who doesn't care about the public good so much as writing good code and getting the credit.
That is the point. Stallman founded a religion, and Torvalds gave us a tool. Yes, you needed the religion first, but a lot more people were willing to work on the tool. That was the real tipping point for FOSS.
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When someone holds up Windows as the standard for openness that you should strive for, you have to be really messing up!
It was an <a> empty a tag </a> without a href attribute. It wouldn't work in any browser.
Sounds like a fantastic web tag! "Designed to not work on Any Browser." :)
I wonder who will notice that the link doesn't work at all? Oh, wait... This is slashdot. Never mind. :)
The key is consent... By your definition, they can make rape OK. Doesn't work for rape, and we have lots of case law supporting that. (Even if you are "married" to that 14 year old.)
Not that I agree with the Co$, but the Christians have a formal document abut killing people for lots of reasons... However, most of us do not take it literally, and those that do end up in prison or the loony bin.
I think you started a little late. The Muslim crusades. The Catholic crusades. The Inquisition. (What a show...) The common thread is people... A corrupt person has no problem using anything as an excuse from religion, to communism, to security, to social justice. No "idea" stays pure once people start to use it.
no shit. hey, i bought a PC with a beige case and painted it orange. do i get my own slashdot story now too? we can talk about the technical differences between latex and enamel paints, glossy versus flat, and other really fascinating pieces of technicality! it'll be great ... for a slow news day
There have been a few slashdot stories about people painting laptops, and a few on restoring old cases... So, yes.
WTH is with high-end hardware using the low-performance ATA standard instead of SCSI nowadays, anyways?
They are trying to turn the "I" in RAID back to inexpensive.
Have fun running your inferior hardware then. Your post is extremely arrogant and has no valid points. Were you just hoping to get modded up?
Are you referring to your own post, or the parent?
You can't buy a car and then take out the engine and demand a refund on the engine, so why should you be able to buy a computer and not use the software and demand a refund on that?
I have never tried it on an engine. I have done it with wheels, stereos, and body parts. (Like ugly wings)
Did they read the parent post? He said you can not find a storefront without Windows system. Parent post found one! That was funny, or informative, not off-topic. I am still chuckling...
Did you read the parent post? He said there were online vendors, but no local shops. You posted online vendors... I do agree with the reasoning after, however.
Just makes me think of an old Danny D'vito quote from Other Peoples Money.
"Of course I've got lawyers. They are like nuclear weapons: I've got em coz everyone else has. But as soon as you use them they screw everything up."
But lets not get into way of some good sensationalism journalism.
What do you mean? That is the only kind we have left!
Really, if you want to spend that kind of money, put it on a card. It would be much faster on the PCI buss that SATA for a negligible incremental cost.
OK. How about check the time while on a motorcycle? Or any other wide open and windy hobby...
I've sky dived with my phone. No problem there.
Did you check the time going down?
Dear God I hope not!
http://images.google.com/images?q=open%20urinal
And everyone I know wears a watch daily. I guess we must know different people.
I just can't wait to take my cell phone SCUBA diving, or wake boarding, or sky diving, or...
Well, you do have a point in that Stallman brought GPL and open source licensing into the coding world. However, I use several things daily with more open BSD or Apache style licenses that are still free. By your argument, FreeBSD should not exist, yet it does. But it never hit the mainstream public momentum of Linux. While I do not believe it was the license that caused that, it is debatable.
And RMS started GNU in 85. I was using e-mail before then. And I wrote an e-mail client as well... Yes, computers existed before GNU. So did compilers, many of the reasonably priced. So did shareware CD Burning apps, ammong other things.
But look at your last paragraph. If that does not sound like religion, what does? Not saying you are wrong in all of your points, but it is not reason alone that drives them
And for the record, while he started a bit ahead of me, I am not sure if it was before I was born. (Close to that time, however) and we both learned programming on the same first language.
That is the point. Stallman founded a religion, and Torvalds gave us a tool.
Really? Maybe you aren't aware of the tools Stallman wrote? Stallman wrote the first versions of gcc, gdb, emacs, etc. So if you still want to oversimplify it, this is more accurate: Stallman created tools and created open source. Torvalds created a tool.
Actually I am sure that both men created lots of things. But what one thing stands above the others for each man? Or a better question, do you know more people that have used Linux or emacs? Those original tools were key parts needed for Linux to happen. But it was Linux that busted into the mainstream.
They also forgot that ebay will soon be flooded with cheap Xbox system that are only good for playing pirated games. Doh!
You should not be surprised. Look at all the WGA false positives.
If anyone, it should be Stallman, for writing the GPL, for starting the free software movement and spreading knowlege of the existence of free software and for explicitly backing a public cause, and basically dedicating his life to it. In comparison, Torvalds is just an above average software engineer/project manager, who doesn't care about the public good so much as writing good code and getting the credit.
That is the point. Stallman founded a religion, and Torvalds gave us a tool. Yes, you needed the religion first, but a lot more people were willing to work on the tool. That was the real tipping point for FOSS.