Too bad it was one of the worst PC ports in history. Not "Turok: Dinosaur Hunter PC" bad, but still, it required a monster of a system to run considering the graphics, and required the use of a completely different executable (Halo: Custom Edition) to run custom maps. And the netcode is pretty terrible.
They didn't include co-op either, but that's understandble considering Bungie couldn't even figure it out for Halo 2.
As a real life friend of the Camper in question (yes, we really do call him The Camper in real life), he HAS played his fair share of Halo and Halo 2 and still thinks that First Person Shooters belong on PC.
We evenetually had to agree to disagree. I think that the controller, although less than ideal, is not an insurmountable obstacle when it comes to playing FPS's on consoles. He disagrees and says it's nowhere near a good substitute.
Then again, he plays FPS's with a TRACKBALL (INVERTED!), so take his thinking with a grain of salt.
Wrong. The Doom 2 mouse control was harder to get used to than modern game mice control, but almost all of the deathmatch doomgods of the early ages used K+M in doom2.exe, and after a few years they all used them.
Of course, these days you can use a K+M with freelook in a multiplayer source port like ZDaemon, so the point is moot.
Good luck when you get to Level 60. About the only thing you have left when you get there are the hours-long raids. And Battlegrounds, if you like PvP where you can't even talk to your enemy.
The game with the most "giving it charactor" glitches in my opinion was the gold cart version of Zelda 64. That had so many weird things you could do in it, the most famous of which is the Swordless Link trick. Just look up any of these circa 1998 geocities websites that have Zelda glitches, it was full of them.
This is my main beef with it. Second Life, in my opinion, was a great concept, as was Active Worlds before it. However, it's bogged down by the fact taht I need to stand in an area for a few minutes for it to completely load, and if I walk too fast, I can outrun how fast it places things....though thankfully it seems to place a high priority on prim's clipping information, even higher than their textures, so you dont fly around and end up stuck in a wall. Sometimes it even seems like it stalls somewhere, and I need to walk around a bit to nudge it into completely loading it.
It has to stop implimenting all these new features and fix their content delivery system first. Do we really need more resources and bandwidth wasted on the old Yatta flash animation every ten feet (Quicktime support is already in, and Quicktime can play movies created with Flash 5 or earlier) when the infastructure isn't there to support it?
20. Linuxs GUI (X) is an antiquated system that sucks cycles from even the most modern hardware and slows it down to the point where the mouse lags going across the screen.
I was one of the fellow people who took the challenge, so I agree that Linux and FS are not perfect. Nevertheless, I beleive there is a reason for X being kinda slow. Windows seems so snappy because windows gives the GUI one of the highest priorities on the system, in an effort to make the whole thing seem more responsive (when in reality the GUI is snappy, but programs in the background don't get as good of a slice of the pie). The X GUI is given medium priority, which means it gives equal time to the GUI and the rest of the system.
I'm not exactly sure if this is correct, but I'm just going on what I was told. If someone else knows better, please respond with corrections.
LOL! You wish. Just looked at both your and the grandparent's posting histories. You're the guy with all his posts languishing at +0 and he's got a whole page full of up-mods.
Fixed. I made that sig back when I just participated in your crowd's circlejerks. The moderation system for Slashdot is terribly broken, and allows a flock of people who think like-mindedly to effectively control what's 'correct' and 'incorrect' around here. Kinda like Republicans in modern government.
Linux and Free Software are not perfect. This is coming from a user who has been casually been trying to get into Linux since Red Hat 6.2, and has each time gone back to Windows. I still like it, but there is a ton of shit that bugs me about it.
I know you're probably also a troll, but this is a pretty stupid news story anyway, (selling scaled down versions of software with minor modifications is nothing new, AutoCAD LT as just one of hundreds of examples of the same damn thing, yet we don't see new storys featuring Autodesk on the main page) so I don't care if I shit on it.
I only thought of nine, but that ought to do, and probably as big of a response as you're going to get.
1) No unification in package management. RPM is flawed (hi dependancy hell), and YUM is only a bandaid on the solution. DEB is great, but only debian based distributions support it. Windows may have multiple companies doing install programs, but at least they're all doing mostly the same thing. 2) The reliance of many people on "source only". Please. I don't want to download ten million different libraries and go through the hastle, however small you may argue it is, to build from source. I want to download this piece of software, install it, and get on with my life. 3) Alt-Tab. I don't care how yuo do it, but I want to be able to alt tab from a full screen graphical program to another graphical screen (not a console). 4) Drivers. There isn't much that can be done about this, but unless you're masachistic, you're basically forced to use an nVidia video card to get accelerated X. I want my piece of shit Intel EXTREME onboard graphics card to run accelerated X too. 5) GTK themes vs. KDE themes. I don't care if you like programing with GTK 2/+ or with QT libraries, but would it kill you to figure out some easy way to make the actual windows look somewhat similar? I have my awesome theme for KDE, I don't want to do some stupid hack that doesn't work 100% or wait for the author to convert the same theme to GNOME to get my graphical programs to display the same. Oh, and on a side note, can you please figure out why KDE's sound system is so terrible. I do not want to wait a few minutes for KDE to let go of the sound system so I can fucking start Neverwinter Nights. 6) man pages. Explain the contents of a man page for a basic command to a casual user. If he is utterly confused, rewrite it. At least group the fuctions into 'most used' and 'never use in a million years' 7) Configuration. It's easy if you know exactly where in the mess of configuration files on your system a certain file is (usually/etc, which is good) and what it's named (HAHAHAHA, good luck). Or if you know exactly where the configuration utilites are on your computer (most likely in a console, and most likely named this really long name in a really obscure directory that you'll never remember when you need to) 8) Cockyness of it's fans. No, I don't have a reason to switch, other than curiosity. Granted, Microsoft zealots are just as bad, and have less well founded opinions, but that doesn't mean free software zealots are right, just a tiny bit less idiodic. 9) Documentation. The really easy to do stuff seems to be well documented and on every single Linux help site. And a UNIX or Linux pro is certainly a good help. But the step between basic end user and power user seems to be vast, and it's only gotten a little smaller over the years (thank god 90% of my hardware is finally being detected these days at least). Something like the Linux Wiki at LinuxQuestions.org, except on a much larger scale and more all-encompasing would be VERY useful. Even if I've been wrong a few above points (and yes, I've used Linux recently) can you people please update your god damned documentation so I don't have to have these misconceptions.
I do consider myself truely free. I owe my alligence to no one, and I've been on both sides of the fence, and made up my mind that XP better suited my needs than Linux did. That doesn't mean that Linux is bad, or Windows XP is perfect either.
Read some of the other replies to the same question. They've got it right. You're just full of tinfoil.
Microsoft has their Windows related resources pooled on XP SP2 fixes, Longhorn and IE7. Why in the world would they backport the changes (which are NOT TRIVIAL) to a five-plus year old operating system that's not even their latest offering? It doesn't make sense, from a manpower or business perspective.
"Hey, why can't I use this brand new printer with Word for DOS, M$ IS FUCKING US AGAIN!?!?!?!?"
ZDaemon 1.06 for Linux is exactly what I had in mind when I was writing the origional thread two parents up. Or the Linux version of N. Or Neverwinter Nights. Or Unreal Tournament 2k4. Or nVidia non-video drivers.
I've heard from good sources (people on the IE team) that getting fully standards compliant is a major priority this time around. Rumor has it that Bill himself blasted the team for not being doing it sooner.
Then again, I use Opera, so I'm not in the target demographic anyway. (that is, the demographic that wants a standards compliant simple tabbed browser)
What this program seems to want to do is make obtuse installs easy. Which is fine, as long as you have a program actually in the database. But why can't it be like windows, where there IS no central repository, and I just double click INSTALL_RANDOM_PROGRAM.EXE and it automatically sets itself up in the databsae of installed programs, sets everything up for me automatically, and will uninstall cleanly.
Far too many programs for Linux don't have something simple like that.
And please, we don't care about the.02 ms increase in speed we can get from compiling the program we just downloaded from source. Just give us binaries, please.
I've given Linux many many many tries over the years in many different distros, from Red Hat 6 to Debian Sarge, and while they're nice for being free, Windows XP on the whole serves my needs far better in general.
Actually, if you want to play a Tribes/UT like game right now, either pick up a copy of Unreal 2, download the XMP expansion for it, and use All Seeing Eye to connect to servers.
XMP. What a fantastic game. Too bad it didn't get more of an audience than people who bought Unreal 2....which isn't that many.
(There is an Unreal Tournament modification of it, but nobody is playing it right now...the most recent beta had a few problems and we're waiting on the devs to release a patch)
It's all about the games. Unfortuniatly, with no Halo at launch, I'm afraid you might be right about "MS will be lucky to keep half its installed base". As much as I love the Xbox's software library, a lot of people just bought the Xbox for Halo and sports games. Sad, really.
Heh, all I ever noticed was the gaudy paint job. (though a hacked uxtheme.dll fixed that real quick) I didn't really notice XP being all that less responsive than 2000.
But then again, a friend of mine has XP installed on a system that was almost identical to one I used to have, and he has major unreponsiveness, especially when first turning the computer on. I think it had to do with Asus Probe acting weird, but I never used it enough to figure it out.
Still, I wish that XP had the linux equivilent of a quickly accessable console, so I didn't have to wait for the ctrl+alt+del menu to come up so I can select Task Manager and kill the process. When something Xwindows related screwed up (fairly often for me when I used Linux, for some reason), I could just Ctrl+Alt+F2, login, ps -A | less, killall evilprogram, or just hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and kill X entirely. XP has nothing like this, so if some program is taking up a vast amount of system resouces, I just have to hope it doesnt slow the rest of my computer to a crawl.
Granted, I don't use Linux anymore because I do play a whole lot of games that are just a pain in the ass to use in Cedega, but there are a few things I miss from my time using it.
I've been seeing a lot less BSOD's in general since using 2K and XP.
In Windows 98, I would run the comptuer for a few days, and for no reason it would just start being slow and throwing random BSOD's at me.
Since using 2K and XP, I've seen a few recently, but they're all realated to a piece of faulty hardware that I've been too lazy to replace. Other than that, I can't reacall seeing a single BSOD in years on a computer of my own.
I'm honestly asking people. Have you run into BSOD's that really truely was 2000's/XP's fault instead of being some sort of hardware fuckup?
Are those the Start and Back buttons on either side of the silver logo on the controller?
WHY? Putting the start and Back buttons in their current Controller S configuration was the best idea the new controller had. It's a LOT more comfortable to reach than the PS2's and SNES's (and let's not mention the godawful placement on the origional controller), and now you went and changed it to somewhere else?
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They didn't include co-op either, but that's understandble considering Bungie couldn't even figure it out for Halo 2.
We evenetually had to agree to disagree. I think that the controller, although less than ideal, is not an insurmountable obstacle when it comes to playing FPS's on consoles. He disagrees and says it's nowhere near a good substitute.
Then again, he plays FPS's with a TRACKBALL (INVERTED!), so take his thinking with a grain of salt.
In all seriousness, what does political affiliatioin have to do with anything NASA related?
Of course, these days you can use a K+M with freelook in a multiplayer source port like ZDaemon, so the point is moot.
Good luck when you get to Level 60. About the only thing you have left when you get there are the hours-long raids. And Battlegrounds, if you like PvP where you can't even talk to your enemy.
The game with the most "giving it charactor" glitches in my opinion was the gold cart version of Zelda 64. That had so many weird things you could do in it, the most famous of which is the Swordless Link trick. Just look up any of these circa 1998 geocities websites that have Zelda glitches, it was full of them.
This is my main beef with it. Second Life, in my opinion, was a great concept, as was Active Worlds before it. However, it's bogged down by the fact taht I need to stand in an area for a few minutes for it to completely load, and if I walk too fast, I can outrun how fast it places things....though thankfully it seems to place a high priority on prim's clipping information, even higher than their textures, so you dont fly around and end up stuck in a wall. Sometimes it even seems like it stalls somewhere, and I need to walk around a bit to nudge it into completely loading it.
It has to stop implimenting all these new features and fix their content delivery system first. Do we really need more resources and bandwidth wasted on the old Yatta flash animation every ten feet (Quicktime support is already in, and Quicktime can play movies created with Flash 5 or earlier) when the infastructure isn't there to support it?
I was one of the fellow people who took the challenge, so I agree that Linux and FS are not perfect. Nevertheless, I beleive there is a reason for X being kinda slow. Windows seems so snappy because windows gives the GUI one of the highest priorities on the system, in an effort to make the whole thing seem more responsive (when in reality the GUI is snappy, but programs in the background don't get as good of a slice of the pie). The X GUI is given medium priority, which means it gives equal time to the GUI and the rest of the system.
I'm not exactly sure if this is correct, but I'm just going on what I was told. If someone else knows better, please respond with corrections.
Fixed. I made that sig back when I just participated in your crowd's circlejerks. The moderation system for Slashdot is terribly broken, and allows a flock of people who think like-mindedly to effectively control what's 'correct' and 'incorrect' around here. Kinda like Republicans in modern government.
Linux and Free Software are not perfect. This is coming from a user who has been casually been trying to get into Linux since Red Hat 6.2, and has each time gone back to Windows. I still like it, but there is a ton of shit that bugs me about it.
/etc, which is good) and what it's named (HAHAHAHA, good luck). Or if you know exactly where the configuration utilites are on your computer (most likely in a console, and most likely named this really long name in a really obscure directory that you'll never remember when you need to)
I know you're probably also a troll, but this is a pretty stupid news story anyway, (selling scaled down versions of software with minor modifications is nothing new, AutoCAD LT as just one of hundreds of examples of the same damn thing, yet we don't see new storys featuring Autodesk on the main page) so I don't care if I shit on it.
I only thought of nine, but that ought to do, and probably as big of a response as you're going to get.
1) No unification in package management. RPM is flawed (hi dependancy hell), and YUM is only a bandaid on the solution. DEB is great, but only debian based distributions support it. Windows may have multiple companies doing install programs, but at least they're all doing mostly the same thing.
2) The reliance of many people on "source only". Please. I don't want to download ten million different libraries and go through the hastle, however small you may argue it is, to build from source. I want to download this piece of software, install it, and get on with my life.
3) Alt-Tab. I don't care how yuo do it, but I want to be able to alt tab from a full screen graphical program to another graphical screen (not a console).
4) Drivers. There isn't much that can be done about this, but unless you're masachistic, you're basically forced to use an nVidia video card to get accelerated X. I want my piece of shit Intel EXTREME onboard graphics card to run accelerated X too.
5) GTK themes vs. KDE themes. I don't care if you like programing with GTK 2/+ or with QT libraries, but would it kill you to figure out some easy way to make the actual windows look somewhat similar? I have my awesome theme for KDE, I don't want to do some stupid hack that doesn't work 100% or wait for the author to convert the same theme to GNOME to get my graphical programs to display the same. Oh, and on a side note, can you please figure out why KDE's sound system is so terrible. I do not want to wait a few minutes for KDE to let go of the sound system so I can fucking start Neverwinter Nights.
6) man pages. Explain the contents of a man page for a basic command to a casual user. If he is utterly confused, rewrite it. At least group the fuctions into 'most used' and 'never use in a million years'
7) Configuration. It's easy if you know exactly where in the mess of configuration files on your system a certain file is (usually
8) Cockyness of it's fans. No, I don't have a reason to switch, other than curiosity. Granted, Microsoft zealots are just as bad, and have less well founded opinions, but that doesn't mean free software zealots are right, just a tiny bit less idiodic.
9) Documentation. The really easy to do stuff seems to be well documented and on every single Linux help site. And a UNIX or Linux pro is certainly a good help. But the step between basic end user and power user seems to be vast, and it's only gotten a little smaller over the years (thank god 90% of my hardware is finally being detected these days at least). Something like the Linux Wiki at LinuxQuestions.org, except on a much larger scale and more all-encompasing would be VERY useful. Even if I've been wrong a few above points (and yes, I've used Linux recently) can you people please update your god damned documentation so I don't have to have these misconceptions.
I do consider myself truely free. I owe my alligence to no one, and I've been on both sides of the fence, and made up my mind that XP better suited my needs than Linux did. That doesn't mean that Linux is bad, or Windows XP is perfect either.
It's a Microsoft corperate vice president. Did you even read the article?
Microsoft has their Windows related resources pooled on XP SP2 fixes, Longhorn and IE7. Why in the world would they backport the changes (which are NOT TRIVIAL) to a five-plus year old operating system that's not even their latest offering? It doesn't make sense, from a manpower or business perspective.
"Hey, why can't I use this brand new printer with Word for DOS, M$ IS FUCKING US AGAIN!?!?!?!?"
ZDaemon 1.06 for Linux is exactly what I had in mind when I was writing the origional thread two parents up. Or the Linux version of N. Or Neverwinter Nights. Or Unreal Tournament 2k4. Or nVidia non-video drivers.
Then again, I use Opera, so I'm not in the target demographic anyway. (that is, the demographic that wants a standards compliant simple tabbed browser)
Far too many programs for Linux don't have something simple like that.
And please, we don't care about the .02 ms increase in speed we can get from compiling the program we just downloaded from source. Just give us binaries, please.
I've given Linux many many many tries over the years in many different distros, from Red Hat 6 to Debian Sarge, and while they're nice for being free, Windows XP on the whole serves my needs far better in general.
Holy shit the PS3 beats the Xbox360 because we have a BIGGER BAR on our bar graph!
Ever since the PS2's launch, I've found it hard to beleive anything that comes out of Sony's mouth.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fucking finally!
Actually, if you want to play a Tribes/UT like game right now, either pick up a copy of Unreal 2, download the XMP expansion for it, and use All Seeing Eye to connect to servers.
XMP. What a fantastic game. Too bad it didn't get more of an audience than people who bought Unreal 2....which isn't that many.
(There is an Unreal Tournament modification of it, but nobody is playing it right now...the most recent beta had a few problems and we're waiting on the devs to release a patch)
Specs don't mean shit.
It's all about the games. Unfortuniatly, with no Halo at launch, I'm afraid you might be right about "MS will be lucky to keep half its installed base". As much as I love the Xbox's software library, a lot of people just bought the Xbox for Halo and sports games. Sad, really.
In spite of how much I loved the HHGTTG movie, I was wanting to be the first one to use this.
Damn you slashdot
I don't remember BSOD's in Windows earlier than 95, but I DO remember General Protection Faults happening a lot more often.
Heh, all I ever noticed was the gaudy paint job. (though a hacked uxtheme.dll fixed that real quick) I didn't really notice XP being all that less responsive than 2000. But then again, a friend of mine has XP installed on a system that was almost identical to one I used to have, and he has major unreponsiveness, especially when first turning the computer on. I think it had to do with Asus Probe acting weird, but I never used it enough to figure it out. Still, I wish that XP had the linux equivilent of a quickly accessable console, so I didn't have to wait for the ctrl+alt+del menu to come up so I can select Task Manager and kill the process. When something Xwindows related screwed up (fairly often for me when I used Linux, for some reason), I could just Ctrl+Alt+F2, login, ps -A | less, killall evilprogram, or just hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and kill X entirely. XP has nothing like this, so if some program is taking up a vast amount of system resouces, I just have to hope it doesnt slow the rest of my computer to a crawl. Granted, I don't use Linux anymore because I do play a whole lot of games that are just a pain in the ass to use in Cedega, but there are a few things I miss from my time using it.
I've been seeing a lot less BSOD's in general since using 2K and XP.
In Windows 98, I would run the comptuer for a few days, and for no reason it would just start being slow and throwing random BSOD's at me.
Since using 2K and XP, I've seen a few recently, but they're all realated to a piece of faulty hardware that I've been too lazy to replace. Other than that, I can't reacall seeing a single BSOD in years on a computer of my own.
I'm honestly asking people. Have you run into BSOD's that really truely was 2000's/XP's fault instead of being some sort of hardware fuckup?
So essentially, they're taking any BSOD's that are already happening and divide them into two categories?
I like this idea. It would be nice to tell at a glance if my goddamn video card has frozen the computer again or if it's actually something serious.
Are those the Start and Back buttons on either side of the silver logo on the controller?
WHY? Putting the start and Back buttons in their current Controller S configuration was the best idea the new controller had. It's a LOT more comfortable to reach than the PS2's and SNES's (and let's not mention the godawful placement on the origional controller), and now you went and changed it to somewhere else?
*sigh*