"Toss in a few screen shots of complicated, yet meaningless clips of him navigating the network and bam-- Instant media frenzy"
Better yet, Use the movie "Take Down" with Kevin Mitnick, and the screen, with the ping replys- " I can see him, He is bouncing all around" ( this is the shot where yammo, and the guy from the cell phone company and the ISP are tring to track him down, when they are in seatle.
don't flame me as a "lamo" (teehee), I have ONLY seen the movie once.
Consulting charges are not cheep, and the consultants that are good, will make their money off this. referals, additional work, etc.
As far as cost in compairsion, I belive that it is reasonable. MS charges $1100/per year to be a Microsoft Partner. The requirements for this are two employee's must have at least one MCP each. While the price is steeper for this partnership to the OSS app, The software is OSS, and thus the money is spent on the software, not Bill, buying every ticket on every flight to HI, on the month of his Honeymoon.
It also appears to be a good business model as well, and it could work!
1. write software
2. release software under LGPL
3. ?
4. Charge consultants $5000.00 to be partners, and build customer base, thus pushing product, building need for more consultants, thus more money!
You are at work to do work, but on your lunch break, in the break room. As many people have mentioned before, people DO have personal lives, AND if you allow them to do what they need to do, they are going to be happier working there, and be willing to perform.
The reason that the sites are blocked it more of a virus prevention, security issue. I don't log anything on that computer, I don't track the sites, etc. I might through the cookies everyonce in while, but only to see that people are not abusing it. If someone needs to check their mail in the middle of the workday, they can go and use it, no one is going to say anything, but it keeps it from becomming habitual.
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AMD just realesed a New proccessor to compete with Intel's latest 2.8 p4. Bleh blah bleeee.
If any thing is Monitored, The company/person monitoring is required by law to tell you. If they are listening in on your phone calls, you are required by law to be notified. Bathroom monitoring is Illegal. (period).
What you do on company property, and company time is "their business" no matter how you look at it. For example. you shoot someone at work, does it not affect their business. (bad publicity, people getting hurt, liabilities, etc.) They have every right to search your (company owned) desk, your electronic transmissions, and files, sometimes even your person, (where is the pen supply disappearing to? EBay?)
Besides, why are you so concerned? Are you doing illicit things in the bathroom? Are you stealing the pens? Planning on going postal?
You clearly are working to hard or... not doing enough in the office. I would say of all the people that I have asked (considering doing a thesis on changing the hours of the workday), How much time are you *actually* working when at work for 8 hours. The common response. 2 hours.
If you are working at home, you should get paid. Unless you are the dummy that signed the contract for exempt status. Should they pay a portion of your rent? No. Should they pay for your clothes? No, Your transportation, maybe.
My situation:
I am an independent contractor/small business, and I include in my price, my clothing (for work), my travel time, and business expenses.
Maybe as a employee, you should discuss this with your employer, and explain that you ARE working the 8 hours that you are there, and even working at home. Better yet, Have someone write a letter of appreciation about your performance. Also... you might want to start sending emails from home at late hours of the night, or early hours in the morning. Time stamps DO get noticed. If it is a decent place to work, and you are doing as much work as you indicated that you are, then you should not have any trouble getting what your giving to the company. If you worked for me, I would have NO problem paying you for your time, but when you are on my time, I will monitor your actions and have no qualms about it, I don't think that I would actually care that much browsing the web, checking the bank account etc. (slashdot), but it is when it is excessive, that I would start to be "concerned" and I might bring it up in a meeting, or casually. (although, if you are working as hard as you indicated that you are, I would not care in the least, well that is if I don't see Goatse.cx in the log. )
Why shouldn't a company monitor your personal email? I really don't see any problem at all with it. Ask yourself this: WHY ARE YOU THERE, WHY ARE THEY PAYING YOU? *To Do your Job*.
Why are you doing your personal matters on their network, computers, bandwidth?
At one of the offices I Admin, I have two terminals set up in the breakroom with access to the public email sites (yahoo, hotmail, various popular ISP's), and only from those IP's (on their own subnet/30) can they get to those sites. Those workstations are also locked down, but have games and other break related software on them. All the users know that they are monitored on the "business" network for the sites they browse and the communications they make. Everyone is content with this. There is the option to use the break room computers, and if they want to do it on their machine (yahoo, hotmail, etc) they just plain can't. (unless you ssh/telnet(sniffed)/rdp/ica/pc-any to another computer off the network.)
"No, but the streets and such that they need to block off and dig up to lay the cable are. Since the government that owns the streets in question probably doesn't want to have lots of companies taking turns digging up the streets to run cables, they pick one and give them a monopoly..."
You haven't been to DC latly have you??? That is all you see various companies diggin up the streets... The streets are wasted, and the companies that did the digging have a boatload debt, that is if they are still treading water.
While this is OT, Intrest is Tax deductable and can be very lucritve to some people right on the border of the tax brackets. If you are at the bottom of one tax bracket, and are making more then say the top of the lower bracket, you actually take home less money, and are getting screwed by U. Sam.....
Reply- This is why you would use differnet providers-
there are several parts of DSL.
last mile- Provided on the ILEC's network (ATT, Verison, SBC)
DSLAM to main network switch (this is still the ILEC or CLEC (Covad, QUEST etc.)
This is where the differance is:
At this point the data is transfered to the closed POP of your provider, and this is who regulates your traffic, maintains your routing, and handles the support. What does this mean. If you have three providers to choose from say, ABC, DEF, and XYZ.
ABC - has many pops, a well scalled, and reliable network, and crappy tech support, as well as traffic shaping(blocking ports etc.).
DEF - Is PPPoE, great support and a network that is getting very close to capicity.
XYZ - Has no support (unless line is down), Static IP's great Network, and NO traffic shaping (blocking ports, etc.)
You now have the choice to get what you need. Joe homeuser is going to be best with the DEF. They don't know the differance, and would like the support when their email does not work.
I would use XYZ- I don't need the support - besides, they most likly don't support Linux/Unix anyway, and I like the lack of traffic shaping an static IP's
ABC - This is good for the advanced user that does not know what is going on... but knows that they want their p0rn fast and lag low for their gaming.
in the end it works out well, as the first two steps really have little affect on the service. The only time that they even come in to play is when there is a problem with the Last mile, and then well, i hope that you had planed on using a dialup for a few days, maybe weeks.
You would not happen to be the flounder from ASSHOle in the morning??? Anyway, where in MD are you? Cause My parents live right outside of DC in a SFH and it is worth about 250,000.
Our main ILEC was Verizon, and they are also the devil company. Regardless of who they are, they are funded by the government, and they are the monolopy. If you are a competitor, they are not going to be easy to deal with.
Here is one example of Verizon's incompentence/lazyness.
our client (SDSL) ordered a Fax line. The verizon tech (who's name I still remember) Disconnected the pair from the DSLAM at the CO (central office), and used it for the Fax line. He then went to the office and unplugged the cable from the router, cut the RJ45 off of it, and put a rj11 on it. When the Client said, what are you going to do about our DSL, he replied, " call your service provider, this is now your Fax line. They will have to run a new line for you."
Nonsence... and what recourse do you have, sure you can sue them for their neglience, but in the end, all you are going to do is end up in a paper pushing struggle that will last several years and cost you several times more then your losses from loosing your connection.
Having worked for a reseller of Covad, The margin on what you make for a circuit when you are priced competivitly, is like 4%, and the only way to really make it, is to be VERY large and have a subscriber base 10,000 +. Our ISP, (name not mentioned)had about 3000 subscribers and went under. It was to expensive to maintain a cage at AboveNet support your clients, your peerings for redundancy, and pay Covad.
It is too bad, because all my coworkers from when we worked there STILL talk, most of which everyday, and I have never had as much fun going to work.
How do you think that cable internet works? You think that your signal gets routed at ever junction? No. It goes to everyone, and if... you don't have the correct address/PVC, it keeps looking.
OMG... Didn't you read the article???? It is cause of the intenetquakes, of people browsing the web on your node. Gosh... the kids get home start with the p0rn, the traffic get's started and DONE. You get all shaken up...
" In the case of the Internet, each site is connected to the whole through servers, which host web pages, and routers, which coordinate traffic. The servers and routers themselves also form a hierarchical clustering structure, said Abe.
So these server items Host only web pages, and all the traffic on the internet is web traffic, which moves from link to link by a "router". This is very upsetting that college educations and many many years of research show something that could be acomplished in 20 mintues with a SDSL line, a p0rn site on a connection faster then the SDSL line, and finally root@box'#ping xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Better yet, Use the movie "Take Down" with Kevin Mitnick, and the screen, with the ping replys- " I can see him, He is bouncing all around" ( this is the shot where yammo, and the guy from the cell phone company and the ISP are tring to track him down, when they are in seatle.
don't flame me as a "lamo" (teehee), I have ONLY seen the movie once.
I have US$0.10 to the FIRST PERSON to crack a MAC...
(nice... CRACK A MAC... )
Sorry couldn't help myself.
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Here is the Netscape 7 reviewers guide. (PDF)
As far as cost in compairsion, I belive that it is reasonable. MS charges $1100/per year to be a Microsoft Partner. The requirements for this are two employee's must have at least one MCP each. While the price is steeper for this partnership to the OSS app, The software is OSS, and thus the money is spent on the software, not Bill, buying every ticket on every flight to HI, on the month of his Honeymoon.
It also appears to be a good business model as well, and it could work!
1. write software
2. release software under LGPL
3. ?
4. Charge consultants $5000.00 to be partners, and build customer base, thus pushing product, building need for more consultants, thus more money!
Lather, Rinse, Repeat!
The reason that the sites are blocked it more of a virus prevention, security issue. I don't log anything on that computer, I don't track the sites, etc. I might through the cookies everyonce in while, but only to see that people are not abusing it. If someone needs to check their mail in the middle of the workday, they can go and use it, no one is going to say anything, but it keeps it from becomming habitual.
AMD just realesed a New proccessor to compete with Intel's latest 2.8 p4. Bleh blah bleeee.
What you do on company property, and company time is "their business" no matter how you look at it. For example. you shoot someone at work, does it not affect their business. (bad publicity, people getting hurt, liabilities, etc.) They have every right to search your (company owned) desk, your electronic transmissions, and files, sometimes even your person, (where is the pen supply disappearing to? EBay?)
Besides, why are you so concerned? Are you doing illicit things in the bathroom? Are you stealing the pens? Planning on going postal?
If you are working at home, you should get paid. Unless you are the dummy that signed the contract for exempt status. Should they pay a portion of your rent? No. Should they pay for your clothes? No, Your transportation, maybe.
My situation:
I am an independent contractor/small business, and I include in my price, my clothing (for work), my travel time, and business expenses.
Maybe as a employee, you should discuss this with your employer, and explain that you ARE working the 8 hours that you are there, and even working at home. Better yet, Have someone write a letter of appreciation about your performance. Also... you might want to start sending emails from home at late hours of the night, or early hours in the morning. Time stamps DO get noticed. If it is a decent place to work, and you are doing as much work as you indicated that you are, then you should not have any trouble getting what your giving to the company. If you worked for me, I would have NO problem paying you for your time, but when you are on my time, I will monitor your actions and have no qualms about it, I don't think that I would actually care that much browsing the web, checking the bank account etc. (slashdot), but it is when it is excessive, that I would start to be "concerned" and I might bring it up in a meeting, or casually. (although, if you are working as hard as you indicated that you are, I would not care in the least, well that is if I don't see Goatse.cx in the log. )
Why are you doing your personal matters on their network, computers, bandwidth?
At one of the offices I Admin, I have two terminals set up in the breakroom with access to the public email sites (yahoo, hotmail, various popular ISP's), and only from those IP's (on their own subnet /30) can they get to those sites. Those workstations are also locked down, but have games and other break related software on them. All the users know that they are monitored on the "business" network for the sites they browse and the communications they make. Everyone is content with this. There is the option to use the break room computers, and if they want to do it on their machine (yahoo, hotmail, etc) they just plain can't. (unless you ssh/telnet(sniffed)/rdp/ica/pc-any to another computer off the network.)
BTW, BWM - Is German.
Didn't you read slashdot , we don't have broadband.... *wink*
Also, Isn't that going to raise CD cost's marginally, if they have to change the key on each CD? ( I didn't read the article in true slashdot style. )
speakeasy.net they are great and a linux based shop.
You haven't been to DC latly have you??? That is all you see various companies diggin up the streets... The streets are wasted, and the companies that did the digging have a boatload debt, that is if they are still treading water.
While this is OT, Intrest is Tax deductable and can be very lucritve to some people right on the border of the tax brackets. If you are at the bottom of one tax bracket, and are making more then say the top of the lower bracket, you actually take home less money, and are getting screwed by U. Sam.....
there are several parts of DSL.
last mile- Provided on the ILEC's network (ATT, Verison, SBC)
DSLAM to main network switch (this is still the ILEC or CLEC (Covad, QUEST etc.)
This is where the differance is:
At this point the data is transfered to the closed POP of your provider, and this is who regulates your traffic, maintains your routing, and handles the support. What does this mean. If you have three providers to choose from say, ABC, DEF, and XYZ.
ABC - has many pops, a well scalled, and reliable network, and crappy tech support, as well as traffic shaping(blocking ports etc.).
DEF - Is PPPoE, great support and a network that is getting very close to capicity.
XYZ - Has no support (unless line is down), Static IP's great Network, and NO traffic shaping (blocking ports, etc.)
You now have the choice to get what you need. Joe homeuser is going to be best with the DEF. They don't know the differance, and would like the support when their email does not work.
I would use XYZ- I don't need the support - besides, they most likly don't support Linux/Unix anyway, and I like the lack of traffic shaping an static IP's
ABC - This is good for the advanced user that does not know what is going on... but knows that they want their p0rn fast and lag low for their gaming.
in the end it works out well, as the first two steps really have little affect on the service. The only time that they even come in to play is when there is a problem with the Last mile, and then well, i hope that you had planed on using a dialup for a few days, maybe weeks.
You would not happen to be the flounder from ASSHOle in the morning??? Anyway, where in MD are you? Cause My parents live right outside of DC in a SFH and it is worth about 250,000.
Our main ILEC was Verizon, and they are also the devil company. Regardless of who they are, they are funded by the government, and they are the monolopy. If you are a competitor, they are not going to be easy to deal with.
Here is one example of Verizon's incompentence/lazyness.
our client (SDSL) ordered a Fax line. The verizon tech (who's name I still remember) Disconnected the pair from the DSLAM at the CO (central office), and used it for the Fax line. He then went to the office and unplugged the cable from the router, cut the RJ45 off of it, and put a rj11 on it. When the Client said, what are you going to do about our DSL, he replied, " call your service provider, this is now your Fax line. They will have to run a new line for you."
Nonsence... and what recourse do you have, sure you can sue them for their neglience, but in the end, all you are going to do is end up in a paper pushing struggle that will last several years and cost you several times more then your losses from loosing your connection.
It is too bad, because all my coworkers from when we worked there STILL talk, most of which everyday, and I have never had as much fun going to work.
How do you think that cable internet works? You think that your signal gets routed at ever junction? No. It goes to everyone, and if... you don't have the correct address/PVC, it keeps looking.
OMG... Didn't you read the article???? It is cause of the intenetquakes, of people browsing the web on your node. Gosh... the kids get home start with the p0rn, the traffic get's started and DONE. You get all shaken up...
So these server items Host only web pages, and all the traffic on the internet is web traffic, which moves from link to link by a "router". This is very upsetting that college educations and many many years of research show something that could be acomplished in 20 mintues with a SDSL line, a p0rn site on a connection faster then the SDSL line, and finally root@box'#ping xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
I wounder if they have their MCSE?
windows ehh...
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C:\
So what you are saying, is that when there is traffic, things slow down??? and i thought that it was cause someone [insert funny analogy here]