No, I learned history from books, perhaps you've heard of them...
Try Josephus, Pliny, Plato, etc
It is amazing what you can learn from books. Oh, and just because civilization simplifies some of the concepts doesn't mean they aren't based on reality. since in reality, you don't need to build a city to have an outpost or fortress.
YOu know what, empires are glorious. The Roman empire had running water. The ottoman empire brought peace and prosperity to the desert, the british empire advanced trade throughout the world, the egyptians built pyramids, etc.
empires are what drives scientific advance because at the geographical heart of the empire there is peace for scientists to study and research.
And this is in opposition to how the real world works or with history??
I think that IF johnny learned about history by experimenting with running or crushing a revolt, and by observing the differences between democracy and despotism that he might be a better citizen.
different movies, different standard.
Finding nemo--cartoon singing fish... very low standard
LotR--Orcs and elves, giant flying reptiles... slightly higher standard... but we don't expect to see giant space lasers
Armageddon,deep impact, space cowboys and Day after tommorrow--- very high level, water doesn't boil until after the atmosphere and bombs blow up.
If you want a lower standard for suspension of disbelief, set the standard with talking pigs, people who see in the dark, or elves and orcs.
How would a well-written but totally racist essay be graded?
So on a paper where the student must select and write 3-5 pages on a historical figure of his choice, the student who selects hitler or stalin should be penalized vs the student who selects MLK or George washington, or what about the student who selects Jesus vs the student who selects Plato or Socrates??
Should they be evaluated on factors other than historical accuracy and writing proficiency?
I was reading on my headlines the other day that there were more employees than students in most districts, And many of these employees have no function other than as a layer between teachers and administration
[ob officespace quote]I'M A PEOPLE PERSON DAMMIT[/ob officespace quote]
Well, if you can measure accurately from another point in the universe, please do,
We can't identify an edge, so since we can measure in every direction from us, and light appears to move at the same speed in all directions, we OBSERVE a spherical universe surrounding us.
It doesn't mean anything other than that is what we observe and thusly how we speak. Just like sunrise... It looks like it comes up so thats how we talk.
I'm thinking you might not be able to harvest the energy to do something like that, although if somehow we could locally "reverse" the stretching that would be more effective. Sort of like winding a cosmic cable around a star and pulling it close.
I was using stupid IRT opening my mouth when I likely should have just read on, but this is slashdot and stuck my foot right in.
Thanks
I'm reminded of course of many(NOT ALL) scientists and "experts" who claimed that bad things would happen at 762mph. And at 100mph.
I'm fascinated by the discussion, and would like to get back to studying some of the more arcane areas of physics, But whenever someone is so dogmatic about a pyramid of theories that cannot(YET I HOPE) be thoroughly tested I get that twitch and jump right in
Of course being a young earth(and universe) creationist I jump fairly quickly and sometimes too rabidly on the age of the universe stuff
And since we can't measure c except for today, we don't know if it was faster or slower 100 years ago or 500, or 5000 or 50 000. And it will likely be 10-20 years before we can accurately determine if it is in fact changing. and at what rate.
Ok, we are using computers, computers haven't always had superscript, subscript or even the Caret sign. SO the OLD notation on COMPUTERS is 10**23 And yes it dates back to the 50s.
Its not a klooge, its using the tool you have, effectively. And since this is news for nerds, using the standard programming notation should be fairly simple.
The real answer is since we cannot observe from a point moving anywhere near relativistic speeds, we don't really know.
And the only "objects" we can observe that are moving anywhere near those speeds are at the limit of our observable radius, and we can't be certain how fast they are in fact moving due to the variability of the speed of light, etc.
I'm not a physicist, so perhaps I'm stupid, or I dumbed down what has been explained to me, but don't the doppler effect(s) and some of the other theories basically mean that even if something was moving away from us at FTL speeds we couldn't accurately observe it to measure its speed.
Actually, causality isn't violated unless an object is moving FTL in respect to a "fixed" reference point. If two objects are moving at LT light speed away from the "fixed" point. they may be moving FTL in respect to each other. In fact it sorta has to work that way. Just like two cars moving at 60 mph(each) away from a fixed point in opposite directions have a separation speed of 120mph does not mean that one is standing still and the other is moving 120mph. You gotta define the fixed point first.
Running software that opens up ports and allows people I don't know to read my hard drive makes me pretty wary of sharing anything online...
The FTP and NNTP networks are still alive and well and until the big ISPs and NSPs start sharing their download logs with the **AAs they are infinitely safer legally as well as practically.
Ethically or otherwise. I was talking about previewing an upcoming movie before shelling out $20 to go see it with my SO and got into a morality discussion with someone who I knew had just shared a tape of a recent popular PPV and didn't see the analogue in behaviour even after having it explained.
People will do what they want and will believe what they want.
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No, I learned history from books, perhaps you've heard of them...
Try Josephus, Pliny, Plato, etc
It is amazing what you can learn from books. Oh, and just because civilization simplifies some of the concepts doesn't mean they aren't based on reality. since in reality, you don't need to build a city to have an outpost or fortress.
Ok, it wasn't a spear it was a rock, and it wasn't a stealth bomber it was an Attack helicopter. But you get the point.
Be afraid, or I shall threaten you within an inch of your life.
YOu know what, empires are glorious. The Roman empire had running water. The ottoman empire brought peace and prosperity to the desert, the british empire advanced trade throughout the world, the egyptians built pyramids, etc.
empires are what drives scientific advance because at the geographical heart of the empire there is peace for scientists to study and research.
And this is in opposition to how the real world works or with history??
I think that IF johnny learned about history by experimenting with running or crushing a revolt, and by observing the differences between democracy and despotism that he might be a better citizen.
I'm thinking that this could be great if they can combine all the best parts of Civ and HL.
Suspension of disbelief.
different movies, different standard.
Finding nemo--cartoon singing fish... very low standard
LotR--Orcs and elves, giant flying reptiles... slightly higher standard... but we don't expect to see giant space lasers
Armageddon,deep impact, space cowboys and Day after tommorrow--- very high level, water doesn't boil until after the atmosphere and bombs blow up.
If you want a lower standard for suspension of disbelief, set the standard with talking pigs, people who see in the dark, or elves and orcs.
Should they be evaluated on factors other than historical accuracy and writing proficiency?
How about we eliminate the bloat.
I was reading on my headlines the other day that there were more employees than students in most districts, And many of these employees have no function other than as a layer between teachers and administration
[ob officespace quote]I'M A PEOPLE PERSON DAMMIT[/ob officespace quote]
Well because slashdot Supports Linux which is based on Unix which was developed in C which is derived from BCPL which use **.
Quite alright. The belgium bit is quite hysterical, and seems to flow naturally. It goes right along with the flying WTF theme of the book.
Well, if you can measure accurately from another point in the universe, please do,
We can't identify an edge, so since we can measure in every direction from us, and light appears to move at the same speed in all directions, we OBSERVE a spherical universe surrounding us.
It doesn't mean anything other than that is what we observe and thusly how we speak. Just like sunrise... It looks like it comes up so thats how we talk.
I'm thinking you might not be able to harvest the energy to do something like that, although if somehow we could locally "reverse" the stretching that would be more effective. Sort of like winding a cosmic cable around a star and pulling it close.
That is what scifi fans call warping.
I was using stupid IRT opening my mouth when I likely should have just read on, but this is slashdot and stuck my foot right in.
Thanks
I'm reminded of course of many(NOT ALL) scientists and "experts" who claimed that bad things would happen at 762mph. And at 100mph.
I'm fascinated by the discussion, and would like to get back to studying some of the more arcane areas of physics, But whenever someone is so dogmatic about a pyramid of theories that cannot(YET I HOPE) be thoroughly tested I get that twitch and jump right in
Of course being a young earth(and universe) creationist I jump fairly quickly and sometimes too rabidly on the age of the universe stuff
And since we can't measure c except for today, we don't know if it was faster or slower 100 years ago or 500, or 5000 or 50 000. And it will likely be 10-20 years before we can accurately determine if it is in fact changing. and at what rate.
OH, and my book version has chemist and belgium.
RIGHT, thats why the BBC radio AND serial versions use Belgium.
Further, Water is Wet, Eating too much is bad for you, and exercise helps control your weight.
Ok, we are using computers, computers haven't always had superscript, subscript or even the Caret sign. SO the OLD notation on COMPUTERS is 10**23 And yes it dates back to the 50s.
Its not a klooge, its using the tool you have, effectively. And since this is news for nerds, using the standard programming notation should be fairly simple.
Ok, use the old notation 10**23.
Ok, granted.
The real answer is since we cannot observe from a point moving anywhere near relativistic speeds, we don't really know.
And the only "objects" we can observe that are moving anywhere near those speeds are at the limit of our observable radius, and we can't be certain how fast they are in fact moving due to the variability of the speed of light, etc.
I'm not a physicist, so perhaps I'm stupid, or I dumbed down what has been explained to me, but don't the doppler effect(s) and some of the other theories basically mean that even if something was moving away from us at FTL speeds we couldn't accurately observe it to measure its speed.
Actually, causality isn't violated unless an object is moving FTL in respect to a "fixed" reference point. If two objects are moving at LT light speed away from the "fixed" point. they may be moving FTL in respect to each other. In fact it sorta has to work that way. Just like two cars moving at 60 mph(each) away from a fixed point in opposite directions have a separation speed of 120mph does not mean that one is standing still and the other is moving 120mph. You gotta define the fixed point first.
Running software that opens up ports and allows people I don't know to read my hard drive makes me pretty wary of sharing anything online...
The FTP and NNTP networks are still alive and well and until the big ISPs and NSPs start sharing their download logs with the **AAs they are infinitely safer legally as well as practically.
Most people don't understand copyright anyway.
Ethically or otherwise. I was talking about previewing an upcoming movie before shelling out $20 to go see it with my SO and got into a morality discussion with someone who I knew had just shared a tape of a recent popular PPV and didn't see the analogue in behaviour even after having it explained.
People will do what they want and will believe what they want.
What about the radio stations that are directly owned by the record labels?
Having talked to some friends with digital cable I'm pretty sure it is broken.
OTOH browsing the alt.binaries.multimedia Heirarchy suggests that the digital cable encryption has been cracked.