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The RIAA's Push for an Audio Broadcast Flag
aaronsorkin writes "The Recording Industry Association of America has discovered that digital radio broadcasts can be copied and redistributed over the Internet, and so it is pushing the FCC to adopt an audio broadcast flag, which would likely prevent users from sending copyrighted radio programs over the Internet. But it could also hamstring other legitimate uses by preventing a digital radio program from leaving the device on which it was recorded. The FCC has initiated a notice of inquiry (pdf), typically a step leading to formal rule-making. The public may submit comments to the FCC between June 16 and July 16. A lobbyist friend sent me copies of the private correspondence on the subject between RIAA president Cary Sherman and Consumer Electronics Association president Gary Shapiro, and Cryptome just posted them here (pdf) and here (pdf). Yes, they're legit. Mindjack just posted an article I wrote on the subject titled, 'Will Digital Radio Be Napsterized?'"
the RIAA control radio programs?
Honestly, the RIAA is getting ridiculous now. You can just record the radio onto a tape cassette if you really wanted it that bad. They just need to give up... First post!!
Flags are easily ignored, and if the stream is sent out in-tact it's a non issue anyway. When will they learn?
Foolish sums up all of their attempts at putting the genie back in the bottle. RIAA, wake up, the younger generation doesn't think twice about obtaining copies of the music they want, despite what legislation you buy. You can't turn back the clock legally and expect that to cause cultural backpedalling.
It just never ends with the RIAA.
I used to listen to a couple of radio stations while i surfed the net, with this will copying them to my computer be ilegal?
Why don't they just set the 'evil' bit?!
How lossy is hooking up the line out of your digital radio to your computer's sound input? Obviously you wouldn't want to do that over and over again, but I bet after one iteration of digital to analog to digital you'd still have very good sound quality. So this won't even work terribly well to "prevent piracy".
Fair use, meet the circular file. Circular file, meet fair use.
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No way dude. You're going at it all wrong. MS will never do anything that could reliably stop piracy as long as it is helping corporate competitors. It's not in MS's interests. They want Sony dead because that's their growth market. Once the competitors are gone, well okay, but no sooner than that.
And the broadcast flag is automatically cleared when the packet leaves american computers? We should tell Cisco to put this new feature in their routers.
I thought that the NX command was being put in to make sure that code could only be executed in certain memory spaces, not to make sure that only certain code could be executed.
And it requires specific processors and chipsets that support the command.
My understanding was that it's more for protection of the stability of the OS, not protection of copyrights of software...
I was in the park the other day wondering why frisbees get bigger and bigger the closer they get - and then it hit me.
They did this about 15 years ago with what was the last promising tape-based format, and ended up killing the medium for pretty much everyone but pro audio studios. Wonder how much potential revenue they missed out on w/ that fiasco?
where the villains' scheme depended on the "fact" that no matter what type of regulatory and taxation hell the industries were put under, they'd still produce, and this provide power to the very people who were strangling them.
How long until people just give up and listen to local music? Leave the RIAA to the sheep, and the sheep to the RIAA, and the sheep will get what they deserve. Remember, the only reason that ??AA organizations have any influence is that people buy their stuff. You have two options: buy their stuff, but don't complain, or don't buy their stuff, and try and support alternative markets - local bands, live concerts, low power FM, etc.
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Sorry, but it's No eXecute, not No Read. NX can only prevent execution of code not intended to be executed (stack or data space), not prevent the reading of memory space of a program. NX should be appreciated solely on the grounds that it steals a great deal of Palladium's thunder, postponing that nightmare a little further.
I don't even listen to radio anyway. Of course, I'll still be arguing against the broadcast flags anytime it comes up, but I haven't listened to the radio in, hell, I can't remember how long.
Besides, I doubt digital terrestrial radio will take off, same way that digital terrestrial television has not taken off - the few people watching terrestrial DTV are those with HD sets.
If an industry doesn't see fit to give me my legal rights, then I won't use their product, and I will do my damndest to make sure other people don't use their product either.
I resent being told that I can't do something because I *might* use it for illegal purposes. Even if what I'm actually *planning* to do is fully legal.
And, just like virtually every other protection system out there, it WILL be broken. The only one I know of that HASN'T been broken publically is digital cable - and I feel it's been broken, but just not revealed to the public yet.
FC Closer
...it'll be cracked...and then they'll modify their protection scheme..and then someone will crack it again... Eventually someone will sue, the RIAA will start yet another campaign about theft and attempt prosecution. You know, I don't sympathize with music swappers at all, but the RIAA seems Hell bent on looking as stupid as possible these days.
Here.
as soon as they (not you as it should be) have control of your computer everything is possible
stop supporting microsoft with pirating their software!!!!!
You would be correct. XPSP2 supports NX (or as SP2 refers to it, Data Execution Prevention [DEP]). However, I don't know which CPUs support it, if any, currently.
FC Closer
Looks like this may be a lot harder for the RIAA than mp3 issues to me.
i don't see how any of this will stop me from taking line out to line in and just recording/encoding shit myself.
"...if you don't like your job, you don't strike. You just go in every day and do it really half-assed..." -Homer
This may be an unpopular opinion here, but I don't see anything wrong with this. Radio is there for you to listen to and enjoy. The music is being broadcast to you at no charge (excepting commercial-free services like XM and Sirius) and the broadcaster sets the licensing terms. Naturally, the broadcaster needs to comply with the licensing terms of the copyright owner, represented typically by the RIAA.
So what rights are being infringed here? Unless you're paying a radio station to broadcast your own music to you, you are not in posession of a license to the music. So fair use in terms of copying to your computer, etc. doesn't apply as you haven't purchased anything. One could make the argument from a research standpoint and being able to record samples for the purposes of critique, etc. This would easily be fulfilled by plugging a jack into the headphone slot and recording the non-digital output to tape or via line-in on a computer and you'd still get better quality than any non-digital radio station that exists today.
Honestly, I don't see an issue here.
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When will the RIAA realize that they can't control technology that's already been unleashed? What they really need to do is charge us a listening fee for letting the songs enter our ears. If they initiated a per song per ear license then they'd be set. They might as well try cause it'd work just about as well.
if they transmit as a HDTV signal (not familiar with subject so please forgive) and just didn't put in a video signal wouldn't the normal broadcast flag cover this?
or does the current broadcast flag only cover video? so i couldn't save in HDTV format but i would be able to listen to the THX sound?
I don't see how this is such a big deal even if they do put flags in the streams. From the beginning Digital Radio was supposedly DRM'd and obviously it was sham. Why should flags change things? I've no doubt that under just the right in vitro conditions it does what it's supposed to. But put it out in the wild and its dead in a matter of hours.
As others point out, it's a hopeless battle. Information wants to be free. This isn't some conspiracy. This goes back literally thousands of years. Trying to control how people use information is not only morally reprehensible and an insult to humanity, it is about as practical as hearding mosquitos in an open field.
As long as the RIAA is given the same freedoms that the real Mafia enjoyed in Chicago, they will continue acting like this.
"So, I says to my pal Vinny here, that I didn't think yer MCL (Music Creation License) was quite.. shall we say... up to snuff."
"Hehe, ya... snuff!"
"Quiet! Anyways, I was thinkin... Maybe if ye wanted to help us out, wese could maybe help you out. Vinny and I were really looking to find some of those Internet Terrorists, you knows... the ones that download YOUR music without paying US first? And if you could maybe point a few out, we could get that whole MCL cleared up, capeche?"
so what happy name will they come up with for this type of 'watermark', and how long before someone figures out how to 'clean' a recording of this?
I guess the internet is the last 'free' place for music, thus the RIAA needs to push it outta the way as well.
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Maybe some can't tell the difference with their lousy computer speakers, but to a real audiophile, music sounds much better with a broadcast flag.
It's like salt for music. You don't have to have it, it's just better with it.
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any digital protection system can be broken, no matter HOW complicated.
the one way that breaks ALL digital protection systems, and still leaves the content with decent audio, is to go through an analog phase. record from the output of your sound card into another computer via the analog lines, you only lose one analog generation (negligable given how lossy mp3 encoding was on the original content), and get a perfectly rippable copy on the other side with no history of any DRM preserved whatsoever.
so you DRM bastards: KNOCK IT OFF!
All DRM does is make the stupid feel empowered, the common person feel condescended to, and the pirates feel bored as to how easy it was to crack it...
"But remember, most lynch mobs aren't this nice." (H.Simpson)
-- Joe
The emails, stored in a digital format known as PDF (which the RIAA maintains is yet another tool used exclusively by online hackers and pirates for the sole purpose of stealing IP), while not normally covered by copyright, were in this case earmarked by RIAA president Cary Sherman for use in his new book: Digital Stranglehold - a Step-by-Step Guide to Forcefully Prevent Any Exchange of Audio Information Whatsoever in the New Millenium - or - How to Ram the Buttplug of DRM Further up the American Consumer's Ass.
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Thanks to Globalization I can listen to Norweigan or Dutch radio without any of that. I don't like American music anyway. How many Boy Bands can you stand? It's all psychedelic trance and black metal for me folks. And to tell you the truth most of my music comes from overseas.
Sorry, you're wrong. Can I have the money now?
They need to wave one of these, cuz they can't stop the revolution
Shock Jocks are controlled by the FCC.
...let's hope to God they roll an 11 or 12.
The FCC is controlled by the Supreme Court, which is controlled Bavarian Illuminati.
RIAA is controlled by Cthulhu.
RIAA with the assistance of Cthulhu will attempt to control the FCC... and they're bidding tons of megabucks.
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- my best friend's son, Gabe, at 5 years old.
-The Libra
"Please be patient--The future will begin momentarily."
...we say that he goes down for the 3rd time to mean that he used up his chances for life and he's finally going under for good.
This is really the RIAA and its members going down for the 3rd time.
What I'm really waiting for is for the sh*t to hit the fan when Joe Six Pack buys his $3K HDTV, and pays Comcast $150 a month for HDTV content and then another $2K for his Digital VCR (or DVD or whatever), and he presses the RECORD button to tape the latest Victoria Secret underwear show, and a message pops up that says "Due to copyright restrictions, you may not record".
All of the sudden people will understand what people like the EFF have been complaining about for years.
Right now, congress and the FCC is passing these goofy laws and regulations because there's no downside; broadcast flag? Sure. DRM? Sure. Whatever will keep Hollywood happy.
But when people begin to complain about losing their ability to do what they do today, people are going to be very unhappy, and that's the stuff that brings people out to vote. Remember, Florida? It only take a few people to tip an entire election.
DRM on consumer audio in the past has been the death of a new format. I don't think things have changed that much. Unhappy consumers won't buy stuff.
And if consumers aren't buying TV's, Radio's and Computers because of Hollywood/RIAA lobbying, things will change quickly.
You were mistaken. Which is odd, since memory shouldn't be a problem for you
All audio/video devices will have to be able to broadcast the memory flag. Only individuals who have had the necessary surgery (elective, not typically covered by insurance) will be able to actually view such content. Depending on the decision of the content provider, the content might almost immediately disappear from a person's memory, be a faint memory driving the repurchase of an opportunity to see/hear it again, or could be lodged so firmly in their brain of the end-user that they will have to pay extra to get rid of it.
Zinf has long allowed for the saving of digital broadcasts, from shoutcast at least. But I havn't tested it on other formats, like .m3u streams and what-not (and can't 'cause I'm at work)
Consider someone listening to a radio show and writing an article about it. That would be fair use, no? Then if that someone happens to be a radio journalist, is it not also fair use for said radio journalist to include a snippet of the original broadcast?
This happens all the time. Ever heard that famous Hindenburg broadcast? How about snippets from famous radio shows?
It's no good to say you should make your own analogue recording. That's an artificial limit to fair use. What if said journalist is a poor starving student who does everything on a home computer? Are you saying students have to buy D/A and A/D converters to become journalists?
You can't start limiting fair use, or it becomes unfair use.
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This is just another failed attempt to excercise control over digital services. It's to be expected - they are convinced it will make them more money in the end, and as such they feel compelled to stop it.
This technology, like Macrovision (that's not technically digital, but it fits), DVD's CSS, Adobe PDF, Zip File Passwords, iTunes, SDMI, Microsoft Reader, DirecTV, those silly self-destructing DVDs, faulty CD Toc's, autorun-based protection, SecuRom, Game Consoles, LaserLok, and any other number of protection technologies, it will be defeated, broken, or bypassed).
Hundreds of man-hours, hundreds of millions of dollars in development and marketing, and the only real protection still lying around is simple cryptography (and only when the keys aren't given to users at all, instead of this "hide it in the box, but don't tell anyone" crap).
The only real reason to be concerned is the "stifiling innovation" issue. What devices, technologies, or uses will I lose because of this? To some extent, it benefits open-source, as open-source software can address markets made smaller by the fact that the only way to use the services the way you want is to break the law.
However, how many cool gizmos, gadgets, and whatnots haven't been made, thanks to the DMCA etc.?
Just a little something to think about.
http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fna me=CTLG&product%5Fid=42-2550
Thanks to file sharing, I purchase more CDs
Thanks to the RIAA, I buy them used...
Once again RIAA shows us that is simply can't adapt themselves to the new reality of information sharing.
Internet isn't just a new media, or a new commercial channel. It's also a new and improved way to communicate. For those who want me to be even more clear, it's a new way to share and exchange information.
The fact is that internet users will, for itself, share information among each other. That's what a communication tool meant to do. And there's nothing RIAA can do that'll will avoid 95% of the world population (US residents are 5% only) sharing information, musing included.
RIAA must do just like any other group or company around the world when a new technology tries to ruin its buissines, adapt.
Not adapting itself to the new technological reality, RIAA is opening huge chances of new visionaries company or groups to be successful, being the first in the market and getting ahead even before RIAA can think in any action to avoid it.
The revolution is in its way. All we can do (including RIAA) is adapt ourselves to it. It's useless to try to stop a train without destroying it.
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"and the broadcaster sets the licensing terms"
No they don't. I don't agree to any license when I listen to the radio. I just got a new car, and I checked the radio book. Nope, no license.
There was no "I AGREE" button when I listened to some music this morning. Nothing like that.
So what you've done is set up a strawman ("Broadcasters set up licensing terms") and then concoct a legal "theory" on why this is okay.
Well first of all, there is no licensing terms related to listening to the radio, either analog or things like Shoutcast, and I didn't agree to do anything. I've always been able to tape from radio for my personal enjoyment, and why you think switching from digital to analog changes is the equation is a mystery. Frankly, you seem more like a troll than being well thought out.
I don't need a license to listen to radio, I don't need a license to exercise the rights that are spelled out in constituional law regarding copyrights.
In short, you're all wet.
Is it just me, or can anyone else see a future where cracked hardware that ignores DRM flags will suddenly be flooding the market? I can't beleive that the RIAA thinks this is going to work? Who thinks of this? the RIAA's 'gifted' child? All this does is stop US companies. The FCC does not control the world. Gah...the stupidity of this just drives me insane. Wheres my gun?
Listen, I'm totally sick of your shit. You come across as a paranoid obsessive-compulsive organization that I find extremely unpleasant and distasteful.
Unlike those poor people who are afflicted with paranoia and obsessive-compulsive disorder, there is no treatment or hope for you. I don't want anything to do with you.
Keep your precious copyrights and DRM and be miserable in your own little reality without your customers.
In other words, fuck off.
BBC - the British Public Service broadcaster is doing it's damnedest to make itself the voice available to anyone anywhere:a dio/3177479.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_r
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I don't buy their stuff:
I don't listen to the radio.
I don't buy CD's.
I don't even listen to music produced in the
United States anymore.
Hey, RIAA? You can take your 'popular' music and shove it up your collective asses.
Thanks for driving creative talent out of business in the states. We really appreciate it.
Consumers: What happen?
Slash-Dot: Somebody set up us the Broadcast Flag.
Slash-Dot: We get SUED.
Consumers: What!
Slash-Dot: Main screen turn on.
Consumers: It's You!!
RIAA: How are you gentlemen!!
RIAA: All your radio are belong to us.
RIAA: Your fair use rights are on the way to destruction.
Consumers: What you say!!
RIAA: Your rights have no chance to survive make your time.
RIAA: HA HA HA HA!
RIAA: Sue you all
Consumers: You know what you doing.
RIAA: Landsharks, engage
Consumers: For great justice.
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the RIAA is bound to push for implanted "ear-meters" in everyone, and automatic billing whenever music is listened to.
which would likely prevent users from sending copyrighted radio programs over the Internet
Likely ATTEMPT maybe. Likely prevent?
Not...
um. Not..
Well, not likely.
Peace
12 year old girl caught singing Britney in the shower. RIAA sue for 17 billion dollars over copyright issues.
Next on in the future news!
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So how are they going to stop us from using older programs to broadcast the media? I don't feel a need to upgrade my shoutcast server just so I can have a radio broadcast flag that rats me out when I'm broadcasting copyrighted music. They would either have to change the way the internet works, or force a new media type on us other than mp3.
... that RIAA is trying to control broadcast signals? I thought they just work on getting the music out. Next thing you know, they're going to going to go try to make your radio pay-to-play. Napster was one of the biggest things to revolutionize the industry. And don't give me that mumbo jumbo about people losing money. Quit releasing that American Idol crap, and get some real music.
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I remember when I went to college in the late 1980's, the RIAA had a campaign against Digital Audio Tape (DAT) but also, they had an ad campaign to get people to support a tax on blank audio casettes.
The college administration put up the RIAA flyers on the proposed tape tax and to lobby against DAT. At the time, CD's were becoming mainstream and the idea of burning CD's were a concept, not reality.
At the time, I bought CD's and one of the first things I did was make audio tape recordings from the CD's on casette metal tape (Type IV). The RIAA not only wanted you to buy the CD but if wanted it on casette, they wanted you to buy the pre-recorded tapes which were made on the cheapest tape possible (Type I - ferric oxide) which happened to dirty up tape heads pretty quickly. The metal tape sounded better and it did not dirty up your tape heads. I did not bother with Chromium (Type II) tapes. I now make duplicates of the CD's I buy to take with me on road trips. The originals stay at home. I recently made a copy of the Traveling Wilbury's CD from a guy I work with since it is out of print. The RIAA may not be happy with that but there is no opportunity to buy the CD.
The RIAA is ridiculous. You may not lose much audio quality if you have to go from digital to audio and back to digital if they implement this. It is bad enough the FCC caved in to the MPAA on the b-cast flag for digital TV. The MPAA also raised hell about VCR's when they came out.
Don't forget that one of the AOL/Time-Warner executives called people thieves who fast forwarded through the commercial ads. The name if I remember was Jamie Kellner.
As another poster already stated - it reminds me of the DAT fiasco where they threatened to put a watermark at the 15Khz range which of course would degrade the fidelity of the system which was the entire point of DAT. I don't think it was ever implemented but it, along with ridculously high prices, killed audiophile interest in DATs.
I guess my problem is that anyone stupid enough to think that a digital flag will stop music from being copied is too stupid to implement it in such a way as to not affect the quality of the music (and after all that's what digital is for - if you're not copying...).
Or at least organize a boycott of the RIAA. If I buy my CDs from Canada or Europe does this bypass the RIAA getting my money? I want some way of the RIAA knowing that we will refuse to purchase products that fund the RIAA. I want them to know how much money they will lose from people like me if they continue their draconian measures.
... but can't all digital copy protection systems be defeated by a good quality analogue cable. (Thats right - Bent copper!) ...So what does RIAA make of that? Hummmm?!?!
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This may be invasive and annoying but it will not stop the recording. In order for the flag to work all the software will have to be "flag" compliant. So simply the adoption of this will provide either a resurgence of older tools that don't support this "feature" or new softwear that will not support this (or allow it to be turned off) even if mandated by law. Even that NX thing and the flag combined will not stop the recording as it:
..... "I said frog, now jump dammit, jump!" ........"Um boss, it's not working." ...... "awww be a good boy, please jump when i say frog".......
A.) will only be present on new systems so old hardware will still work(how much computer do you need to stream rip any way).
B.) because as long as you can hear it you can record it. so perhaps the sound will have to be recorded right off the analog output by the very same computer that is playing it, after extracting the ID3 of course.
C.) if by some magic they make it work and be fool proof people will simply go back to cd ripping and file sharing. By that time the new encrypted networks will be better and harder to sue users of.
This will only add another teer of complexity and another charge that they can sue the file makers for.
"FROG!"
You have a 3rd option.
Don't buy their stuff. Instead, download it for free.
Yes, its a civil tort. But, frankly, you shouldnt of closed the door on it.. as its what the majority of people involved in this whole activity are doing.
Me?
I listen to my digital cable radio. Thats pretty much it.
What?
So you're telling me it's a BAD thing to have a processor that can prevent itself from executing code in a region CLEARLY MARKED AS DATA?
Unless you write all your code yourself, then SOMEONE else besides you technically has control over your computer. And that includes Linux and other F/OSS code.
FC Closer
I should be used to this by now, but I still can not get over this idea that if your business model is obsolete or at the very least, seriously unable to contend with the way that the world works, you should be trying to come up with a new way of doing business not petitioning the government to cripple everybody else so you can stay on top. It's like playing a board game like say, oh lets just say Monopoly, and trying to change the rules mid game because you are afraid that other people might be able to build that massage parlor on Boardwalk before you get all the railroads. Obviously with such antiquated ideas I would never survive in business.
The technology as itself poses no threat unless the artists and listeners themselves realize and actualize a business model that allows them to market and sell their music without the help of the RIAA.
How many times did I just use the word business? I really need to invest in a thesaurus.
On Wall Street they say "buy low, sell high" On the pad we say, "buy high, sell high" Isn't that somehow better?
I have a couple of pairs of speakers that really showcase the audio improvement the broadcast flag generates. They're left over from an installation we did at this club and we need to get rid of them before the boss finds out we screwed up the purchase order. You can have them for $100 a pair if you like... genuine Sorny brand too.
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Digital is a red herring anyway "It's digital! it's different!". No, it's not!
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"Granddad, do you still remember when you could listen to music when you wanted too without having to pay every time.. what was that like?"
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The problem is that it is not just the broadcaster being told by the copyright holder how they can treat their music, which I agree should be the right of the copyright holder. The problem is that the RIAA wants to make all electronics manufacturers who make digital radios, run code to limit the users ablibties to manipulate the data once it has been sent to you. Thus the problem is not that they want to make the broadcaster include this bit it is that they want to make it illegal for me to make my own digital radio which ignores this digital bit. Thus placing electronics manufacturers in the place of having to enforce someone elses copyright, that isn't right, just like my DVD player shouldn't HAVE to only play DVDs from my region. I bought the DVD player and the DVD why can't I use them together? Same thing here I bought a digital radio but now I can't stream the music to my computer so I can listen to it throughout my house, or record my favorite radio show to listen as I go to work.
All they're doing is making their problem worse. I never thought of copying music off digital radio (I used to tape analog radio but got very tired of having the DJ talk over the beggining and end of the songs) and I'm willing to bet a whole lot of other people havn't either. But now they're highlighting it as a problem lots more people will be doing it. If they get the go-ahead to enforce this new system, it'll just mean all those new "pirates" will have to use the latest 'cracking' utilities to get around the restrictions (or use other methods mentioned in other posts).
Seriously, I don't see the point in this. I don't support illegal copying (except for personal use, or making your friend a copy of a CD you own) but this is just plain silly. They're just prolonging the fashionable thing to do at the moment (download music off the internet).
Silly rabbit
I cant believe the tag *cant* be removed. Then your music is 'free' again.
Sure the common guy wont be able to do this, but it seems the common guy is just screwed these days anyway.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Apart from it being the RIAA again I assume this is the US type of digital radio not the one used in the rest of the world?
What are the RIAA worried about? People recording music off of the radio and then making it available on the net? Everything I want to listen to is already available via internet streaming anyway and available as audio archives. The only use I can think of for a digital radio (DAB) for me at the moment is in the car. It would allow me access to the wonders of BBC7.
your hypothetical student can hold one up to the speaker
every day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random
Um...I believe that other OS's (linux being one IIRC) already impliment something like this. It makes the whole thing more stable by not letting programs start writing over other important things in memory (like parts of the OS). It's a GOOD thing.
Silly rabbit
Recording Industry Association of America has discovered that digital radio broadcasts can be copied and redistributed over the Internet
I'm trying to imagine that moment when they "discovered" this . . . Did they honestly just not know? "Gee, we're sending them a stream of data that gets played automatically. Those stupid end users will never think to *save* that data!"
AMDs Opteron, and Athlon 64 supports NX, and I think some of the newer Pentium 4 do as well.
Circuit City took a major body blow because no-one would buy a movie that they couldn't lend to their Mom.
Shall we limit freedom of speech to only book runs of at least 1 million copies?
No one is saying taxpayers have to fund poor starving students, even if that is not what you are implying. But when roadblocks to fair use only apply to those who don't spend extra money, it becomes unfair use.
The whole idea of fair use available only to those with enough money is disgusting.
Infuriate left and right
http://why-war.org/mirror/cryptome.org/RIAA-CEA.pd f
Remember they want even D/A chips to have DRM features, so if the data isn't authorized, you wont get any sound out at all...
Sure its not practical, but they can move towards the goal.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Get multiple recordings of the same sound track. Use these to generate a high-quality version. This can effectively eliminate noisy DJ's and any inconsistant noise introduced into the original signal.
The entire process of recording and combining auto tracks can be automated. Just let it run 24/7 and enjoy the library of music you're collecting.
But if all sources for that track have identical damage, then there's nothing to do about it.
The forced separation of memory .... a good thing unless of course you're playing a video game that depends on some low-level routine that uses bits of self-modifying code, which is an old technique from the 6502 days to speed up things and make the timing really precise, and the debugging really, really hard for the guy who gets hired after you leave when the check bounces(!)
Okay, one side (the content providers) wants to impose some DRM scheme on whatever. The other side, the geeks, will attempt to break them. Now, other than OTP, no encryption scheme is unbreakable. The only value encryption has is to make it more expensive to unlock the data than it's worth. However, when the opposition has a religious fervor and practically unlimited resources, inevitably it will be broken. (SDMI? iTunes? DeCSS?) Exhibit "A" is DeCSS. Export of strong cryptography is prohibited by law. So whatever they come up with will be fairly trivial for the geeks to break. As for it being a lightning rod for copyright lawsuits, well, P2P continues relatively unabated against the RIAA's jihad of suing 12-year-olds and grandmothers.
thanks Hillary.
Or is it Cary..?
Unless I'm mistaken, this means that the flag will not apply to Shoutcast radio stations or others that are internet-only. This sounds like it applies to XM, Sirius, and other forms of digital radio, but NOT what's streamed to your computer.
Then again, I could be misinterpreting that part of the article...
Goo goo g'joob.
This is a repost of a repost.
EVERYDAY IS CATURDAY
Man. Is the RIAA seeding slashdot now?
Give it up you dinosaurs.
I shouldn't say something like that without backing it up.
... wait for it ... "plugging the analog hole".
Here: Content Protection Status Report
Implementation of a "broadcast flag" is listed as Goal One. Goal two is
Of course there are easy technical ways to bypass any such schemes if you can get your hands on uncrippled A/D hardware. Your student or journalist is welcome to take advantage of them if they are willing to risk going to prison.
DNA just wants to be free...
You did. According to what you bolded, it won't even apply to XM or Sirius. Looks like it will apply only to digital TERRESTRIAL stations.
FC Closer
"The entire piracy movement is an attempt to get things for free"
.99 a song."
Yes, that's the piracy side of it. There's still a very large legitimate user side to it as well. Your attempt to group those together demonstrates that you really don't understand what you have obviously spent so much time writing about. Here's an example:
"That has nothing to do with piracy. You don't have the right to pirate music because you believe $11.99 is "ridiculously priced." Even iTunes is currently
An album is $12 whether you like every single song on it or not. I happen to know for a fact you have at least one CD that has precicesly one song on it you like. $12 for that one song isn't ridiculously overpriced? Face facts, the driving force between making the $.99 song available is because people 'pirated', as you call it.
Pardon me for thinking you are full of shit. Seriously, if it's all about 'getting something for nothing' like you have stated, then $400 iPods wouldn't be flying off store shelves. iTunes wouldn't have sold millions of songs. Heck, you'd probably be paying up to $20 per album. Go explore the other side a little while before blindly calling honest people pirates.
You're half right. Tech like water marking can survive a D-A and A-D transitions. And make no mistake, that's the long term goal here. These sorts of "flags" are just the beginning, because they introduce the concept of forcing equipment manufacturers to include enforcement of DRM technologies. It doesn't matter that the current technology is ineffective, what matters is that new hardware *must* support it, by law.
Once that framework is built into place, newer tech that can survive these conversions gets introduced, and it's easier to push it into the marketplace, because the law says that this sort of thing must be included in consumer hardware. Eventually, you don't have any hardware that will actually record that analog source. It'll all detect the watermark, and refuse to record. Oh, there will be workarounds, but this sort of knowledge is already forbidden for you to pass around, by the DMCA. That's right, it's illegal for you to tell somebody how to bypass a protection mechanism, be it by code or by word of mouth or by t-shirt. The DMCA makes no distinction between these methods.
And that's their vision of the future. Total control of all media. It's just that simple, really. You want to make a copy for your car? You can't. You want to watch the program later than they air it? Sorry, the broadcaster of the show has decided that you might skip the ads if you did that, so your recorder won't record it. And if you post anywhere telling other people how to fix these "problems" with the equipment they bought, armed guards show up at your residence and take you away and put you in a padded cell and stare at you thru a small window for the rest of your life, because you're an informational terrorist.
Pretty bleak, but unfortunately I don't think it's all that much of a stretch of the imagination anymore.
- Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
Currently the AMD Athlon 64 series and the Operton support the NX (Data Excution Prevention)command under WinXP Service Pack 2. I'm not sure how many, if any other CPU's support it. I currenty have an Athlong 64 +3200 and have switch the feature on once just to see what it does. You can specify what programs can be run and anything outside of that won't run. Funny thing is that while most of the WinXP apps can run under it without putting it in the exception list, Movie Player 2 won't run unless you do put it in the exception list...bwhahaha I can see it very usefull on systems you just want specific programs and utilities to run, and nothing else. But it would be annoying to go through my system and have to manually put the majority of applications on the exceptions list.
Some clever soul will write a software d/a and you just put that in the data stream.
I suppose they'll eventually move to a single giant chip that does everything, and only has power pins and pins for the display and controls.
Blar.
I knew China was good for something. The money hungry politicions won't know what the hell to do...caught between two well funded lobbyists...
Blar.
How is this, aside from being a different medium, any different from recording an air-transmitted broadcast of copyrighted material? I can hear music though any AM/FM station and can record it on my computer via a tuner card. Is this any different than recording Internet-transmitted material on the same exact computer, using similar methods?
Or is this more of an issue of AM/FM stations being licensed ($$$), and foo bar's Internet radio broadcast not licensed? If that is the case, this should deal with the licensing of broadcasters rather than the banning/flagging of listeners.
Music is information. Any song that you've ever heard, or ever will hear, is nothing more than a number, once it's represented digitally. How moronic does the RIAA have to be to realize that there is absolutely, positively NO WAY to ever prevent people from sharing numbers?
Let's say that I have a number: five. Once I tell you (the listener) that number, the cat is out of the bag! I can't un-tell you the number. You already know it!! I can claim that I have a copyright on the number five, and I can hunt down and sue everyone who has the number five written down on a piece of paper somewhere, but it's a losing battle.
Ok, so now I'll get tricky, and I'll add anti-piracy measures to my number. I'll encrypt it, with an enormously complex scheme, and I'll only give out the key to people who pay me for it. Problem solved!
But, wait... in order to actually "use" my number, you have to decrypt it. At some point, you have to get what you paid for, and that is the number: five. Now, once you have the raw, decrypted number, how in the hell can I stop you from telling your buddy what my number is? I could monitor every phone line in the country and every mailbox, to try and stop you from telling anyone... yeah, that's really cost effective for me.
The simple truth is that if I sell you a number, I can't stop you from giving that number to others.
The only difference between my number (five) and a song is the size. My number (five) has one digit, and a song has a few million. It takes one microsecond to transmit my number (five) accross a wire, and it takes thirty seconds to transmit a song. Not a big difference, really... and it will continue to be less and less of a difference as information is transmitted faster and faster over the Internet. Songs, movies, and any other information will soon be practically as easy to transmit as my number (five). Encrypt them and flag them any way you like... eventually, you have to give me the raw number if I'm going to actually use it. What I do with it from there is beyond your control. Deal with it. Move on. Game over.
Question from someone who agrees with this:
I would like to take this post, polish it up, and post it on my web page. I would like to make some changes, polish a few things up, do some formatting tweaks, etc. I will not take personal credit for its inception, and will indicate that it is a modified version of this original post.
Is this okay with you?
That said, this is even less limiting than I originally thought it was. Absolutely nothing worth worrying about, apparently...
Goo goo g'joob.
Y'know, I'm tired of the RIAA telling me how and when I can use their music. Fine. Lock it all up in a vault somewhere and keep it so that nobody can get their grubby little hands on it. I've had it with "flag this" and "DRM that".
The BBC has several good stations online.
I do not object to DRM because it could trample traditional expressions of fair use.
I do not object to DRM because it could put an undue burden on public libraries or educational institutions.
I do not object to DRM because it could be used (in conjuction with the DMCA) to "lock out" open source technologies such as Linux or standards-based platforms.
I do not object to DRM because it could collide with some abstract agument revolving around the nature of "a sale" or "property", or because it could countermand existing legal arguments such as the doctrine of first sale.
I do not object to DRM because it could be used by the recording industry to further contractually bind their stable of musicians.
I object to DRM because it consolidates control into the hands of the content producers -- ones that have shown time and time again to have views in direct opposition of mine in ALL of the above principles. In that light, it is no longer "Rights Management" (since when did anyone need to manage them?) but Digital Rights Manglement.Do you like Japanese imports?
for those of you in an IT industry which requires that you sign a "trade secret" form
Thanks for mirroring, but this is the FCC "notice of inquiry" which i believe is already public. The really interesting stuff is the RIAA-CEA dialogue, but it's slashdotted beyond hope. Did anyone get to them while they were up?
Any sufficiently advanced libertarian utopia is indistinguishable from government.
When will the RIAA come the realization that most all illegal file sharing is done on WINDOWS boxes by WINDOWS users. They can complain about the different P2P apps ad nauseum, but the common theme is obviously WINDOWS.
they should go after Microsoft for providing the general public with THE MAIN tool used for evil pirating.
And pirated copies of windows? again done on WINDOWS boxes, MS could stop almost all pirating if they would just pull this hacker tool off the shelf.
And PC suppliers should also be held accountable for pre-installing a PIRATE TOOL on every box. those bastards!
Riptide_dot sez: (1) "I thought that the NX command was being put in to make sure that code could only be executed in certain memory spaces, not to make sure that only certain code could be executed." (2) "And it requires specific processors and chipsets that support the command." (3) "My understanding was that it's more for protection of the stability of the OS, not protection of copyrights of software..."
#2, definitely true. Given consumer equipment turnover, how long before a significant portion of such equipment is in peoples' hands?
#1 and #3: You can talking supposed to, from press releases. I am talking able to, from watching many cycles of engineered obselescence. It would be nearly trivial to make the OS only able to run software that supported this (for example, force playback programs to execute in certain memory spaces, and then read the broadcast flag to set the NX to stop it), and use only those files which carried the flag, whether set or unset. My money STILL says XP was designed to evolve into a DRM based pay-per-view jukebox, this is just the next step in that process, and it's increasing problems with older media types are evidence of prior steps along that path. MS is masterful at trying to swing compatibility issues into their monopolistic domain. Arranging it so their mediacentric OS makes it easiest for media publishers to institute DRM does the same thing and takes it outside their domain and into that of the media producers, arranging it so said producers are putting them in the position of a monopoly, not simply their own direct marketing actions.
Over rated my ass.
"I may be synthetic, but I'm not stupid." -- Bishop 341-B
Im have a feeling it should be ok, as he pirated it off of some other poster, and doesnt seem the care enough to even give someone else credit for the post. Hmm... isnt that a bit hypocrytical of the grandfather poster? see http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=105062&thresho ld=1&commentsort=0&tid=99&mode=thread&cid=8942 929
(9) I believe in capitalism but only support music business models which involve giving away the fruits of ones labor for free.
What if I'm a communist?
TotalRecorder (www.highcriteria.com) installs its own soundcard driver which lets you record anything playing on your machine - CDs, internet radio, satellite radio. No need to use up your analog input port on your soundcard.
All this crap makes me glad im doing electronic-engineering, in the realm of PC's nothing is safe from some debugging tools and abit of hacking around, and in the electronics realm you just need some off-the-shelf programmable microcontrollers and afew tools. All this flag-this, encrypt-that crap is just not going to work, the open-source security philosophy works backwards: if 1000's of geeks are trying to crack your (closed) fundamentally flawed bullshit-flag system, one of us is going to succeed! and not everyone in the world is subject to american law.
(glad theres no bad-spelling mod-down options)
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That is one genious troll. I salute you, sir!
Of Course not! Industry will produce, no matter what you do to it, and that's a good thing, because by hurting industry you can move power back down the ladder to the people. But Industry, or the nobility, or whoever those who hold money and power are, will strike back, always, just as the communications industry was deregulated, just as transportation was, and so the people must be ever vigilant.
If you follow the link you will be shown how to respond to the FCC inquiries by e-mail.
To prove that this method works, there were 43 comments filed so far in one matter and mostly by Sirius subscribers in response to one of our matters under the jurisdiction of the FCC. You can see it in action at this link.
There were only 3 posted prior to us being informed how to contact FCC and someone making a rudimentary PHP script.
I unfortunately don't have the time to deal with the slashdot effect on a hosted application.
The FCC posts the comments on its website very fast and they do respond quickly. I am not sure about the docket number yet. Remember this and use it on June 16.
A thousand comments filed with the FCC in opposition will carry immense weight.
Thank you.
Leonid S. Knyshov
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The implants are designed to once and for all do away with the Communist notion that people within social groupings share music, dance and storytelling amongst themselves.
The RIAA idea proposes that, in the future, all music media will be encoded with high frequency, out of listening band tones which will automatically activate or deactivate the listener's implants based on whether or not the RIAA have their credit card number - therefore, only those with valid subscriptions to a particular piece of music will be permitted to hear it, whether the music is broadcast over radio or on CD.
Of course, the implants will be available in a range of colours in "Home", "Professional" and "Advanced" editions.
Gentoo Linux - another day, another USE flag.
That the airwaves are owned by the public.
There's a common misconception that radio stations have a right to broadcast. They don't. Because the radio spectrum is limited, it must be shared everyone in the broadcasting area. The FCC (theoretically, at least) grants licenses to those entities which it believes will benefit the people most through their use of the broadcast license.
The RIAA and radio stations have no right to profit from commercial radio. They don't own the airwaves. We, the people, do. If their broadcast content doesn't meet the needs of the people, we have every right to replace them with someone who will better serve the public interest.
Radio is a public medium, not a private one. Therefore, since we own the medium, a private entity cannot further restrict the dissemination of what is transmitted across our airwaves. If you want to use our broadcast medium, you have to play by our rules.
If you (RIAA) don't want to play by our rules, you can take your ball and go home. (i.e., if you want to slap DRM on your content, go get your own network - but don't expect to use ours.)
The society for a thought-free internet welcomes you.
...about "intellectual" "property" issues...
- it's never going to get better.
- it's never going to stop getting worse.
- the rate of getting worse is never going to stop increasing.
I'm also an Electrical Engineer. I'm looking forward to this. I'll be able to make a nice profit selling mod chips for your HDTV. It's not hard to do. I'm certainly not subject to American laws.
You, ah, you don't get to write the manuals, okay?
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ECHELON is a government program to find words like bomb, jihad, plutonium, assassinate, and anarchy.
What a load. Immoral? Prove it using any established moral code. Is it in the Bible? How about the Q'uran? Or the Torah? The Baghavad-Gita? Egyptian mythology? Zoroastrianism? In the precolonial social mores and religious traditions of any of the five hundred various Indian nations native to the American continent? Does Ralph Waldo Emerson or Henry David Thoreau come out against it? Does the Buddha once speak of it? Is it mentioned anywhere in thousands of Zen Koans? Are there any tribal religions in Africa that cast aspersion on copying stories, songs, and artwork? Did the Inca and Maya curse the names of those who infringed copyright? Did Plato or Socrates or Pythagoras or Aristotle teach at length about this subject? Well? Huh?
Fact is, the very notion that songs, stories, ideas, images, and all the other ephemeralities restricted by "copyright" were for the bulk of human history passed along and shared only by active infringement by those who carried these works along for us later. Without copying we would have no folk songs, no scriptures, a great deal fewer plays, stories, paintings, buildings, inventions. Our cultural traditions would have lasted only as long as the material on which the first author ever fixed them-- in most cases less than 100 years.
Do you anti-copiers ever decry the vast body of commerce that exists in making copies of "public domain" works? Of course not. Ripping off the past is a hobby for the media cartel. Look at Disney with "The Little Mermaid", "Cinderella", "Snow White", "The Hunchback of Notre Dame", "Fantasia", etc. Look at movie releases like "Troy" and "Romeo & Juliet". Look at how often Beethoven, Bach, Tchaikovsky, and countless others have their works "stolen" and reused in contexts they could never have dreamed of. The same for Michelangelo, DaVinci, Monet, Manet. Where is your outrage at this?
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Keep on suckin' that corporate dick, shitheel.
Last I knew every radio station in the US has to pay a ASCAP fee every month to give them the right to play the music on the air. one would think the RIAA is behind said ASCAP fee somehow.
I know this because I had a kid work for me and his dad ran the radio station. He was marveling at hacking into something to download the Princess Di 'candle in the wind' and getting it on his radio station (via MP3) first. When I questioned if that was legal he explained this ASCAP fee thing.
Also, prior to being able to hunt down song sharers the RIAA would hunt down small businesses that plugged in a radio/cd player for 'hold music'. My employer was sued for re-broadcasting something we didn't have the license for (aka local 'mix' station) coming out of a $20 radio into our phone system. We had to spend something like $20,000 for a pre-recorded loop of ads if we didn't want to pay $1.0M in fines or so because we'd been doing it for months (they apparently watched for a while before letting us know it was illegal)
As a rock-in-roll Physicist once said, No matter where you go, there you are.
Sorry, only got the first file
Any sufficiently advanced libertarian utopia is indistinguishable from government.
I just won't listen to, buy, or obtain in anyway RIAA music. Not much of a change from what I have been doing anyway.
Stop pirating our song hypocrite!!!
This is absurd.
The RIAA is asking for protections greater than they recieve for analog radio.
The problem is that none of the justifications they claim for extended protections apply here.
The earlier justification was that "digital copies allow infinite generations of lossless copies to be made."
If someone is recording from the analog radio, they make a digital copy of a lossy transmission. At that point, they can make an infinite number of copies.
If someone is recording from digital radio, they can make an infinite number of copies of a lossily (probably MP3) encoded stream. Exact same thing.
Furthermore, because of the nature of streaming data networks, it can be more efficient to use retransmission -- to send one stream of audio to a single host in Sweden that then rebroadcasts ten streams to other Swedish hosts. This is superior than directly sending to eleven Swedish hosts. This would prohibit network structures of such a variety.
I can't even figure out why the RIAA managed to impose per-stream fees on Internet radio. That's *absurd*. Normal radio has a smaller transmission cost (i.e. not linear in the number of listeners), and has potential audiences several orders of magnitude larger than Internet radio. Why Internet radio stations can't enjoy small, flat rate fees for playing music is beyond me.
I'm so frusterated with the RIAA. If there was a single vote that could remove all their lobbying, I'd vote for it in a second. But instead, it's a long, unending, slow grind against people that have the potential to make scads more money by swaying a couple of votes.
May we never see th
There is already a compensation scheme in the United States as well. The Audio Home Recording Act provides that 3 percent of the price of "music CD-R" media goes to the SoundExchange royalty clearinghouse, which is obligated by law to distribute a share of the royalty fund to anyone, even smaller labels, that makes a legitimate claim. Makers of blank CD-R media have begun to sell only "music CD-R" media because the 3 percent levy is cheaper than the cost of maintaining another SKU.
The owner of copyright in one or more sound recordings has a monopoly on public performances of such recordings (17 USC 106(6)), but nonsubscription broadcast transmissions licensed by the FCC aren't subject to this monopoly (17 USC 114(d)(1)(A)). Radio stations still have to pay only BMI, SESAC, and ASSCRAP.
A lot of broadcast mediums nowadays are pure digital. XM Radio
How can you hear the transmission if it doesn't become analog at one point within the receiver? Get an XM home system ($160 + $10/mo at Wal-Mart), and connect the radio's RCA output to a PC sound card's line input.
HDTV I'll grant you. Camcording HDTV is currently much more difficult than miking your speakers.
The way to get rich off the law is pass a law (bribe and blackmail the lawmakers) that makes illegal something that a large minority of people do. The majority of people will support the law because they don't engage in the particular activity.
Then use the fact that a large minority of people do it and continue to do it despite its illegality to raise the penalities for breaking this law very high. Again the majority of people will go along with this because they don't engage in this particular activity.
Use the high penalities to encourage a system of bounty hunters who get to share in the enormous fines that are brought against the many people (a large minority works best) who are found disobeying this law when they snitch their neighbors to the authorities for disobeying this law. Make sure the activity that is made illegal is common and accepted by a large minority of people. The best size of this minority is about 15 percent of the population; a larger percentage and you run the risk of a successful revolt and a smaller percentage doesn't bring in enough money to make the whole business worthwhile.
Then just sit back and let the money pile in from legal fees and fines.
In the USA, the stategy worked great on Black people (African-Americans) until the 1960's. It worked great on gays and other sexual minorities until the late 1970's. It still brings in hundreds of millions of dollars from the marijuana community every year to the police and the lawyers.
Now it about to be applied to the recorded music-lover community, starting with random students and working up from there to the general middle-class.
Just one more permanent American extortion money-making scheme. As soon as one passes, another takes its place. Americans talk a lot of trash about freedom, but when it comes to using the law to extort money from minorities, be they racial, sexual, life-style, and now digital media minorities, the dollar always comes first.
Those Cary Sherman and Gary Shapiro letters are getting so much traffic that P2Pnet has posted them here and here, and run a longer version of my article here.
I mean seriously. XM Radio is 96Kbps whereas audio cd is 128Kbps. Sure, its better than analog FM radio, but still inferior to the CD. Why would anyone low-or-midjack that when you can get an already ripped MP3 file also for free off P2P? That's like recording straight off FM to audio cassette in today's market. Total ghetto fabulous.
"Right now, somewhere in this world, Scott Baio is plowing a woman he doesn't love," - Peter Griffin, *Family Guy*
Excuse me for my ignorance, but copying audio streams is, although technically possible, simply not feasible: too much hassle, and I wouldn't know how to achieve it. Is this some kind of a pranksters joke ?
The FCC can control TV and Radio broadcasts because they use public airways, how can they dictate anything that does not use public airways to transmit content?
LK
"Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
Behold Eric Ide's response to the nutty times the FCC are going through! http://www.pythonline.com/plugs/idle/FCCSong.mp3
They need to stop being a dinosaur and adapt to the times. These heavy handed tactics will be their downfall. They need to adapt rather than trying to stop change. Talk about plugging your fingers in the dike to stop the leaking.
Hi, I've searched this thread but noone has posted the helpful guide on how to capture streams for later, uh, use. I remember reading this before on /. but I forgot to copy-paste it. I remember something about Real (?) locking the file but if you tell Real to use a Linux mount as its temp file location, you can then get at the stream from the linux side..
Anyway like I said I can't remember the details but it would be cool to know how to capture the various formats that are streamed in nowadays. There's plenty of programs out there I'd like to be able to "tape" and I'm too much of a noob to figure it out. And apparently I can't use google either.
That is all.
Until you get yourself a digital brain that can accept all those bits directly, sound and pictures will always have to go through an analog phase at some point, even if this is the very last step in reproduction of the work. Amplifiers still need speakers, and it's fairly trivial to tap these speaker outputs if necessary. If it truly is impossible to tap a digital TV broadcast because the D/A converter is inside the television itself, then people will resort to doing what they've been doing in theaters, and what they did before the advent of the VCR -- they'll put a camera in front of the TV and accept the quality losses.
Mal-2
How is the Riemann zeta function like Trump rallies? Both have an endless number of trivial zeros.
But not Safety Warning system receivers which also receive traffic radar signals.
Fair use of the device just means that you have a legit use in addition to the "unapproved use". It cannot be made illegal.
Just snagged some tunes from magnatune
what are YOU doing besides bitching about people bitching.
A law was just passed forbidding the placement of cassette recorders in cars that contain FM radios because of possible copyright concerns.
Other proposed regulations includes the duct-taping of singers mouths at karioki bars. When pressed to comment, RIAA representative Steve Greenback simply stated,"You'd be surprised the kind of high quality reproducion these people are capable of."
Secondary questions: How do they plan to enforce it? How they intend to detect the noncompliant equipment? What about the black market that inevitably appears, fueled on one side by consumer demand and on the other side by all those electronics engineers whose jobs went to India?
They're starting with all the AM and FM stations because that's where the money is.
Lets assume that I am an advertiser, and I know that lots of cattle like to record shows (video/radio whatever) and 'enjoy' the show either at a later time/date OR many times over. I know that:
1) If I advertise during a popular show, many people will record my advertisement and brainwash themselves into buying my snakeoil.
2) This show (and more importantly my advertisement) may be circulated to friends / family (the herd) and more cattle can be canvassed. ergo greater snakeoil sales.
No recording == less circulation of my advertising.
"But sales are slumping, and noone can say why, Could it be they put out one to many lousy records?" - Jello Biafra
First of all, if you're using selfmod code on a modern x86 machine, then you're a fucking idiot.
In modern architechtures, NX makes sense. 15 years ago, it would have flopped. Back then, you didn't have the luxury of separating code and data in such a fashion, due to the nature of the machine.
FC Closer
Especially not if they come up with a watermarking technology and then get laws passed requiring hardware to detect and act on said watermarks.
That's possible for video, as video recording equipment necessarily does some processing of the vertical sync signal to know where to put the recording head. However, it's not possible for audio because much consumer audio equipment, such as a $10 portable tape deck, does no processing of the input signal apart from a simple band-pass/emphasis filter and gain control. Gain-control-fooling systems such as Macrovision may work for video but won't work for audio through miked speakers because air (of all things) naturally filters this band. In addition, the landmark DMCA decision (Universal v. Reimerdes) enshrined the analog hole as the ultimate vehicle of fair use. What, does Congress plan to make ADCs illegal?
I don't know too many people who even listen to radio any more. Most of it is pure garbage so using a broadcaast bit will not improve that or increase listenership. It's just another nail in the coffin of broadcast radio. It's time to reclaim the spectrum and re-use it for unlicensed wireless lan or something.
If you can't buy hardware that will record protected content, then where's your fair use rights now? You still have them, but you can't actually exercise them.
Jurists have commented that without actual, working fair use, the copyright law violates the first article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States. Even the opinion of the Supreme Court in Eldred v. Ashcroft has specified that fair use preserves the First Amendment right of freedom of the press. Watch for a big EFF-funded constitutional challenge should Congress try to plug the analog hole.
The only thing Universal v. Reimerdes enshrined is the ability to work within the confines that the copyright holders decide to give you.
I'll quote from an opinion in that case:
The implication of camcording in the construction "otherwise record images produced on a monitor" clearly refers to the analog hole, as without an analog hole, there can be no lawful fair use. The First Amendment requires that fair use not violate copyright law (infringement, circumvention, or any other offense), and any law that makes fair use impossible is unconstitutional.