... fonts of undefined quality and quantity, 3rd party plugins freely available (Adobe Acrobat Reader, Real Audio Player, Flash Player, Java run-time-environment), 30 days installation support and 1 year "high-speed" download (you could also use mirrors)? Or will you continue to use StarOffice, if it's still included for this price, if there is an integrated Ximian OOo? And for only 69$ more you could read your exchange mails. Pricy.
Quote: "- Uses MSFT file formats by default, reflecting the reality of most of the documents you will receive. No longer tells you you're about to lose all your data when you save in an MSFT format. "
> We're talking about CORPORATE use here, where having a commercial application with commercial support is a plus and where the best tool to do what I need is more important than wether its proprietary or not.
It's nice to hear that you would have no problem with Qt for in-house development too. Because I wouldn't know where to get commercial support for Gtk. Anyone else?
Which big tech companies are more standardizing on GNOME (and don't just produce some Gtk tools)? GNOME is only supposed to become the standard Solaris desktop, while HP has dropped their GNOME efforts. Why should your packet manager, which in large networks is supposed to run in console-mode, influence your desktop choice? The professional products of SuSE will feature Red Carpet and likely still default to KDE. Evolution's Exchange extension is proprietary, commercial and pricy. OpenOffice.org is not more supposed to be ported to GTK/GNOME than you're told for years there will be a GNOME Office. Does Gnome has anything to offer like remote desktop support functionality or a lock down mode yet?
> Now, Red Hat will have do something really bad for me to bother switching back.
Don't they already require you to register, pay and send your system and package information to them? Nothing of this with SuSE whose update work with every anon ftp mirror (and provides fixes for one year more).
> Show me specific law where the software distributed on SuSE 8.2 is either not GPL (or similar) or under a free-beer license.
Read the YaST license: "It is forbidden to reproduce or distribute data carriers which have been reproduced without authorisation for payment without the prior written consent of SuSE Linux AG or SuSE Linux."
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From the README.FTP: "Preparing your own installation server: Just copy the whole installation tree to your local disk and make it available via network."
> In the other hand, in Linux and Main [linuxandmain.com] they have a mostly negative review.
This is an article about a specific installation problem. The real Linux and Main SuSE 8.2 Pro Review ends with "But again, once it's up and running, SuSE 8.2 Professional is great."
First menu shadows, now mockups. What will be the next GNOME headline? That one developer has the idea to add an option?
Don't forget the Kolab 1.0 server which is supposed to be released during LinuxTag too.
Forgot: Are these per-seat licenses? I guess at least the 69$ is one.
How it is possible that nobody yet asked if they again include their own file dialog different to Gnome vanilla's?
... fonts of undefined quality and quantity, 3rd party plugins freely available (Adobe Acrobat Reader, Real Audio Player, Flash Player, Java run-time-environment), 30 days installation support and 1 year "high-speed" download (you could also use mirrors)? Or will you continue to use StarOffice, if it's still included for this price, if there is an integrated Ximian OOo? And for only 69$ more you could read your exchange mails. Pricy.
Sure, even older.
The discreeted possible data loss. They at least should have based their import/export on 1.1 trunk.
Quote: "- Uses MSFT file formats by default, reflecting the reality of most of the documents you will receive. No longer tells you you're about to lose all your data when you save in an MSFT format. "
Own? You mean a 5% share? TrollTech is by the majority owned by their employes.
> We're talking about CORPORATE use here, where having a commercial application with commercial support is a plus and where the best tool to do what I need is more important than wether its proprietary or not.
It's nice to hear that you would have no problem with Qt for in-house development too. Because I wouldn't know where to get commercial support for Gtk. Anyone else?
Huh? KDE and GNOME do press releases as long as I can remember back.
Which big tech companies are more standardizing on GNOME (and don't just produce some Gtk tools)? GNOME is only supposed to become the standard Solaris desktop, while HP has dropped their GNOME efforts. Why should your packet manager, which in large networks is supposed to run in console-mode, influence your desktop choice? The professional products of SuSE will feature Red Carpet and likely still default to KDE. Evolution's Exchange extension is proprietary, commercial and pricy. OpenOffice.org is not more supposed to be ported to GTK/GNOME than you're told for years there will be a GNOME Office. Does Gnome has anything to offer like remote desktop support functionality or a lock down mode yet?
You should read the weekly KDE CVS Digest if you're so eager to read about new features.
I don't think 2.3.2 will be delayed, the tarballs are due today - like according to the plan I linked to.
The link to the KDE 3.1.2 change log is missing in the story. And for the case you missed it, the KDE 3.1 New Feature Guide and the KDE 3.1 Screenshots are still available.
Don't bother to install Gnome 2.3.1, according to Gnome's release schedule 2.3.2 is to be released in two days.
There is no SuSE 8.2 FTP version yet. It's released a month or so after the evaluation version which was just released.
> Now, Red Hat will have do something really bad for me to bother switching back.
Don't they already require you to register, pay and send your system and package information to them? Nothing of this with SuSE whose update work with every anon ftp mirror (and provides fixes for one year more).
> Show me specific law where the software distributed on SuSE 8.2 is either not GPL (or similar) or under a free-beer license.
Read the YaST license: "It is forbidden to reproduce or distribute data carriers which have been reproduced without authorisation for payment without the prior written consent of SuSE Linux AG or SuSE Linux."
But only the 1 CD evaluation version. Selling a copy of the full product for money is illegal!
It's only the OpenOffice.org Quickstarter.
From the README.FTP: "Preparing your own installation server: Just copy the whole installation tree to your local disk and make it available via network."
> In the other hand, in Linux and Main [linuxandmain.com] they have a mostly negative review.
This is an article about a specific installation problem. The real Linux and Main SuSE 8.2 Pro Review ends with "But again, once it's up and running, SuSE 8.2 Professional is great."
I don't see where this article is talking about optimizing other then self-compiling. Better read the KDE performance tips.
You confuse objprelink with the real prelink.