With Apple moving to x86 pc's, Apple system will no longer be to differentiate from stock x-86 system from Dell, HP, Gateway, etc. Apple can no longer argue that thier systems are more powerful than the comptetition. So, what's going to be selling point? Mac OS X. With it, Apple will be able to highlight the strengths they have ove the Windows OEM. But, Apple will have to get that message to the consumer buying his next PC. Apple store perform that function now by letting consumers play with the system but this not very efficient considering Apple stores are in limited locations. So, they should leverage the internet and allow users play with mac osx on their own desktops.
Apple shouldn't turn a blind eye rampant to piracy. But, they should take a more proactive approach that they largely control. They could release a live DVD or CD of Mac OSX. Something that illustrates the strengths of Mac OS X but leaves it largely useless on an whitebox PC.
Current Macintosh users and would be switchers should buy now more than anything. The reason is simple that Mac OS X (ppc) is fully matured. All major apps and drivers have been fully develop with little bugs. Moreover, with universal binaries, most developers will support ppc for at least till 2009-2010. Apple will be completely switched over by 2007 but a majority of mac users won't. So, there is no reason to believe developers will drop ppc support anytime soon. In contrast, I worry about the early adopters of X86-macs. Will all your devices work and will your software supplier have universal bninaries by then? Will Rosetta run your software well till it is? My guess is no. I was an early adopter in the Mac OSX transition, and it was not pretty. My system was only partially useful until 10.2 was released ( a good 2 years). I could accept it because it was just the OS, but I would not be happy to do that with a $1000+ computer.
Imagine if Apple started contributing funds and/or developers to the Wine project, basically doing for Wine what they did for Khtml.
Sounds great except it may induce mac developers to stop developing native version of their software. Why bother making one for OSX if the Windows version of the software will run on OSX? Mac user lose software that comply to Apples user interface guidelines. They will lose a fundamental reason for using OSX over Windows. At that point, Mac users have no inclination to use Mac OSX. After that, Apple will not have any inclination to make Mac OS X and they become another Microsoft OEM. I worry Microsoft may elect to just develop Virtual PC that will run Windows software at native speeds and drop development of Mac Office all together. Then, Adobe and other will follow suit and then there will be no need for Mac OSX. Thus, I don't want to see any emulators on Mac OSX, though I know its inevitable.
The great things about linux is it can be molded into any task that you want and its free. Anyone with time and effort can take linux and build a server, an embedded os, a thin client, and even a desktop. The only problem is that it takes time and effort that hampers largely its adoption on the desktop. But, third world countries are adopting in droves because its free. In the same respect, dirt cheap PCs makers are embracing it as way to avoid Microsoft tax. Since Apple has not ever really offered system that compete in those two areas, Linux will always have some niche where it will be useful.
Certainly, the switch to Intel will open the door to dual-booting OSX/Windows Apples. Some users may just get a copy of XP and just buy the Windows version of the games and forego the wait. The original developers may just make a Macintosh version side by side with the Windows one. Then, there is the whole prediction that gamers will move to consoles decreasing the number of PC gamers. This may have an increase effect for Mac Gamers. So, I can understand the dread in mac porting houses about the future.
$1000 is exaggerating a little too much. Most of the time its no more than $100-200 difference if you don't factored in software bundles. Apple probably will lower their prices because processors and logic boards can be had for less than the PPC.
This also won't lead to a direct swipe at Microsoft for two reasons. Apple won't disallow Windows to run on the Mac and Apple won't allow OSX to be run on any other commodity PC other than Apple.You can read this hereAnd get it from Schillers mouth. So, Apple users could still install XP or Loghorn if they want aftermarket.
I checking out pc prices for next fiscal year's budget. I notice that Powermacs are the cheapest of the dual processor systems. Pretty much, if Xeon/opteron are better, you will be paying extra for it.
That being said. I believe that Apple greatest strength has shifted from it hardware to its software. Apple notebooks are no longer the thinest, lightest, or the lowest powered as Intel has addressed a lot of those issues in the centrino technology. Though, Apple has made strides in desktop design they do lose out to price/performance offer by Intel/Amd systems. But the things that Apple gets the most applause is their software. Everyone lauds the security and ease of use of Mac OSX. The iLife suite gets a lot of praise for its usefulness and ease of use. So, maybe what lies under the hood may not be so important, so long Apple can keep delivering the goods with its software package.
Most manufacturer are just going to charge the consumers extra money to pay the States' fees. Either way, we are ultimately going to flip the bill. I personally don't mind paying it anyway. At this point, I just need a way to dispose of this junk computer equipment. I won't just toss it in the trash because I know about harmful components.
Go to this LaCIE website. They still make High Res CRT with high color accuracy. As far as I know, CRT are still prefer in print production, pro video, and gaming.
Intel also offers a dual-core Extreme Edition Pentium for $999 each.
Are these numbers even right? At Dell website right now, for the XPS gen 5 desktop, it will cost 1,135 to replace the standard single core Pentium with a Dual Extreme Edition. Where are they getting $999? Does it really translate into the price at which the OEM's are selling them? Things may balance out depending on how vendors and OEM's mark up the price.
we would be doing this at a football game. My team better than your's bitch. "Ravens go to hell"; "Steelers are whores". Oh boy, we're no better than them and we still don't laid on top of it. Oh the sadness
Yeah, I guess I am going to run out now with blue jeans and black turtle sweater, and join my fellow mac cultists in dancing around apple hardware with hippie music playing on iTunes while we sing praises to second coming of Steve Jobs.
To think, two other dorks actually thought you were interesting. I guess we actually didn't read the article before we posted
You are such a dork. You must be in your little own la la land.
Answer these questions you know why:
What is the percentage of the population that can do the following:
- Set up a router with a NAT
- Identify a power supply let alone replace it
- build a computer
- choose high quality computer parts from listings of hundreds of commodity part vendors.
Dude, I can secure a Windows box no problem with a little periodic effort. But for people like my sister and my colleagues, I have spends hours every few months fixing problems because they don't know how. They definitely can't do any of the above. Its not that they are stupid but rather it just not their occupation or their hobby. Now, an Macintosh is a simple solution because they get high quality parts, it secure right out of the box (no viruses, no spyware), and it will last years (greater than 5).
I feel this may find itself in a Apple appliance. Maybe an advanced multimedia device that fetures an embedded version of OSX and iLife that can connect to HDTV. In two years, the desktop may be replaced with application specific devices and laptops. Only professional systems may remain.
I am not defending the RIAA or their actions. I do believe people have the right to make off their ideas and thus, I respect copyright. I believe the technology grew too fast and majority of consumers haven't related to the ethical problem yet. Thus, I believe the proper response should be education first then punitive action. However, with punitive action, $5 for every month of infraction is too low. With P2P and torrent, the downloader becomes the uploader. With desktops and always-on broadband, these programs could run for days at a time. Take a one person with 600 pirated songs, he has $600 worth of music. If a hundred people download just %10 of his collection, he just distribute illegally $6000 worth of songs. I would guess this could happen in just a few days. Imagine, how many songs he distributes in the course of a year. Thus, $5/month is too low and would be ineffective if punitive action is being used.
Why does it have to slow down linux. Microsoft, still is dominant in consumer and enterprise space at least on the desktop side. It has billions in the bank and can afford the Longhorn hangup. Quite frankly, Linux (or Mac OSX for that matter) trying to gain ground on Microsoft is like trying to take level skyscraper with a sledge hammer. This reads like more cNet/zdNet conjecture.
The Germans lost not only the war but every single patent they ever had. Who did they lose them to? Oh, the USA of course. It was the single largest theft of intellectual property the world has ever seen, not to mention the absolute looting of major banks and households.
Sounds liked a good idea. More companies should do it. I am serious. Apple has put a really face on BSD. It has brought it into the mainstream. Common computer users gets a great product and BSD code gets a new lease on life. RedHat, Mandriva, Novell has done some good work in bringing Linux to mainstream as well. Companies, more so than open source projects, rely on making the software as usable and as feature as possible otherwise it won't sell. As for the credit, Apple has always acknowledge that where its got its code. Check it out for Safari and for OSX
I don't fire up an OS to look at all the pretty colors, I fire up an OS to run applications.
You implication is that Macintosh user does not. We don't just boot up and stare at the screen like its a painting on wall. We actually run applications too (lots of them) and we get the pretty face on top of it.DORK!!!
it has smart folders that automatically look for documents matching parameters you specify,
I will be using that function in two days. Its called Spotlight. Let me know how works it for you on Longhorn in about 18 months from now. DORK!!!
People go nuts about a 0.1 incremental upgrade to the Mac OS, and are only too happy to pay $130 for it. Longhorn is a far more important and comprehensive upgrade than Tiger and all anyone can say about it is how much it sucks because it looks like Windows?
For one, Windows pro users pay $150-$200 for an uprgrade and $300 for a full version. Tiger DVD is $130 and that's the full version (this means you can throw the old CD). Home really isn't in the ballpark as Mac OSX but its $100 for upgrade and $200 for the full cd. Whether you called it 10.4 or 14, it pretty much the same thing- a major update. You would know this if actually visited Apple site before commenting. You major DORK!!!
Now, I don't why you bother commenting without any insight whatsoever. Use a Mac and compare it to Windows before you run your mouth. Moreover, who were the four dipshits that modded you insightful?! I seriously think Slashdot is being overrun.
Don't bother replying. I not wasting another minute your ass by checking back. Just consider this an education
I agree with you. I never understood why Apple hobble the low end PowerMac. It should be PCI-X and 8GB Ram capable across the board. I would seem to me cheaper to just produce one board for all 3 Powermac systems and just set the bus speed accordingly.
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Ah the next revolution in porn is here!! :)
What is with the flower stuff. Mac users are suppose to be the gay ones. Right?
With Apple moving to x86 pc's, Apple system will no longer be to differentiate from stock x-86 system from Dell, HP, Gateway, etc. Apple can no longer argue that thier systems are more powerful than the comptetition. So, what's going to be selling point? Mac OS X. With it, Apple will be able to highlight the strengths they have ove the Windows OEM. But, Apple will have to get that message to the consumer buying his next PC. Apple store perform that function now by letting consumers play with the system but this not very efficient considering Apple stores are in limited locations. So, they should leverage the internet and allow users play with mac osx on their own desktops.
Apple shouldn't turn a blind eye rampant to piracy. But, they should take a more proactive approach that they largely control. They could release a live DVD or CD of Mac OSX. Something that illustrates the strengths of Mac OS X but leaves it largely useless on an whitebox PC.
Current Macintosh users and would be switchers should buy now more than anything. The reason is simple that Mac OS X (ppc) is fully matured. All major apps and drivers have been fully develop with little bugs. Moreover, with universal binaries, most developers will support ppc for at least till 2009-2010. Apple will be completely switched over by 2007 but a majority of mac users won't. So, there is no reason to believe developers will drop ppc support anytime soon. In contrast, I worry about the early adopters of X86-macs. Will all your devices work and will your software supplier have universal bninaries by then? Will Rosetta run your software well till it is? My guess is no. I was an early adopter in the Mac OSX transition, and it was not pretty. My system was only partially useful until 10.2 was released ( a good 2 years). I could accept it because it was just the OS, but I would not be happy to do that with a $1000+ computer.
Imagine if Apple started contributing funds and/or developers to the Wine project, basically doing for Wine what they did for Khtml.
Sounds great except it may induce mac developers to stop developing native version of their software. Why bother making one for OSX if the Windows version of the software will run on OSX? Mac user lose software that comply to Apples user interface guidelines. They will lose a fundamental reason for using OSX over Windows. At that point, Mac users have no inclination to use Mac OSX. After that, Apple will not have any inclination to make Mac OS X and they become another Microsoft OEM. I worry Microsoft may elect to just develop Virtual PC that will run Windows software at native speeds and drop development of Mac Office all together. Then, Adobe and other will follow suit and then there will be no need for Mac OSX. Thus, I don't want to see any emulators on Mac OSX, though I know its inevitable.
The great things about linux is it can be molded into any task that you want and its free. Anyone with time and effort can take linux and build a server, an embedded os, a thin client, and even a desktop. The only problem is that it takes time and effort that hampers largely its adoption on the desktop. But, third world countries are adopting in droves because its free. In the same respect, dirt cheap PCs makers are embracing it as way to avoid Microsoft tax. Since Apple has not ever really offered system that compete in those two areas, Linux will always have some niche where it will be useful.
Certainly, the switch to Intel will open the door to dual-booting OSX/Windows Apples. Some users may just get a copy of XP and just buy the Windows version of the games and forego the wait. The original developers may just make a Macintosh version side by side with the Windows one. Then, there is the whole prediction that gamers will move to consoles decreasing the number of PC gamers. This may have an increase effect for Mac Gamers. So, I can understand the dread in mac porting houses about the future.
$1000 is exaggerating a little too much. Most of the time its no more than $100-200 difference if you don't factored in software bundles. Apple probably will lower their prices because processors and logic boards can be had for less than the PPC.
This also won't lead to a direct swipe at Microsoft for two reasons. Apple won't disallow Windows to run on the Mac and Apple won't allow OSX to be run on any other commodity PC other than Apple.You can read this hereAnd get it from Schillers mouth. So, Apple users could still install XP or Loghorn if they want aftermarket.
I checking out pc prices for next fiscal year's budget. I notice that Powermacs are the cheapest of the dual processor systems. Pretty much, if Xeon/opteron are better, you will be paying extra for it.
That being said. I believe that Apple greatest strength has shifted from it hardware to its software. Apple notebooks are no longer the thinest, lightest, or the lowest powered as Intel has addressed a lot of those issues in the centrino technology. Though, Apple has made strides in desktop design they do lose out to price/performance offer by Intel/Amd systems. But the things that Apple gets the most applause is their software. Everyone lauds the security and ease of use of Mac OSX. The iLife suite gets a lot of praise for its usefulness and ease of use. So, maybe what lies under the hood may not be so important, so long Apple can keep delivering the goods with its software package.
Most manufacturer are just going to charge the consumers extra money to pay the States' fees. Either way, we are ultimately going to flip the bill. I personally don't mind paying it anyway. At this point, I just need a way to dispose of this junk computer equipment. I won't just toss it in the trash because I know about harmful components.
Go to this LaCIE website. They still make High Res CRT with high color accuracy. As far as I know, CRT are still prefer in print production, pro video, and gaming.
Intel also offers a dual-core Extreme Edition Pentium for $999 each.
Are these numbers even right? At Dell website right now, for the XPS gen 5 desktop, it will cost 1,135 to replace the standard single core Pentium with a Dual Extreme Edition. Where are they getting $999? Does it really translate into the price at which the OEM's are selling them? Things may balance out depending on how vendors and OEM's mark up the price.
we would be doing this at a football game. My team better than your's bitch. "Ravens go to hell"; "Steelers are whores". Oh boy, we're no better than them and we still don't laid on top of it. Oh the sadness
Yeah, I guess I am going to run out now with blue jeans and black turtle sweater, and join my fellow mac cultists in dancing around apple hardware with hippie music playing on iTunes while we sing praises to second coming of Steve Jobs.
To think, two other dorks actually thought you were interesting. I guess we actually didn't read the article before we posted
You are such a dork. You must be in your little own la la land.
Answer these questions you know why:
What is the percentage of the population that can do the following: - Set up a router with a NAT - Identify a power supply let alone replace it - build a computer - choose high quality computer parts from listings of hundreds of commodity part vendors.
Dude, I can secure a Windows box no problem with a little periodic effort. But for people like my sister and my colleagues, I have spends hours every few months fixing problems because they don't know how. They definitely can't do any of the above. Its not that they are stupid but rather it just not their occupation or their hobby. Now, an Macintosh is a simple solution because they get high quality parts, it secure right out of the box (no viruses, no spyware), and it will last years (greater than 5).
I feel this may find itself in a Apple appliance. Maybe an advanced multimedia device that fetures an embedded version of OSX and iLife that can connect to HDTV. In two years, the desktop may be replaced with application specific devices and laptops. Only professional systems may remain.
Right on brother!!!
I am not defending the RIAA or their actions. I do believe people have the right to make off their ideas and thus, I respect copyright. I believe the technology grew too fast and majority of consumers haven't related to the ethical problem yet. Thus, I believe the proper response should be education first then punitive action. However, with punitive action, $5 for every month of infraction is too low. With P2P and torrent, the downloader becomes the uploader. With desktops and always-on broadband, these programs could run for days at a time. Take a one person with 600 pirated songs, he has $600 worth of music. If a hundred people download just %10 of his collection, he just distribute illegally $6000 worth of songs. I would guess this could happen in just a few days. Imagine, how many songs he distributes in the course of a year. Thus, $5/month is too low and would be ineffective if punitive action is being used.
Why does it have to slow down linux. Microsoft, still is dominant in consumer and enterprise space at least on the desktop side. It has billions in the bank and can afford the Longhorn hangup. Quite frankly, Linux (or Mac OSX for that matter) trying to gain ground on Microsoft is like trying to take level skyscraper with a sledge hammer. This reads like more cNet/zdNet conjecture.
The Germans lost not only the war but every single patent they ever had. Who did they lose them to? Oh, the USA of course. It was the single largest theft of intellectual property the world has ever seen, not to mention the absolute looting of major banks and households.
To be PC, I like to call it a war tribute.
Once a month. This was a one alot bigger than average.
Sounds liked a good idea. More companies should do it. I am serious. Apple has put a really face on BSD. It has brought it into the mainstream. Common computer users gets a great product and BSD code gets a new lease on life. RedHat, Mandriva, Novell has done some good work in bringing Linux to mainstream as well. Companies, more so than open source projects, rely on making the software as usable and as feature as possible otherwise it won't sell. As for the credit, Apple has always acknowledge that where its got its code. Check it out for Safari and for OSX
I don't fire up an OS to look at all the pretty colors, I fire up an OS to run applications.
You implication is that Macintosh user does not. We don't just boot up and stare at the screen like its a painting on wall. We actually run applications too (lots of them) and we get the pretty face on top of it.DORK!!!
it has smart folders that automatically look for documents matching parameters you specify,
I will be using that function in two days. Its called Spotlight. Let me know how works it for you on Longhorn in about 18 months from now. DORK!!!
People go nuts about a 0.1 incremental upgrade to the Mac OS, and are only too happy to pay $130 for it. Longhorn is a far more important and comprehensive upgrade than Tiger and all anyone can say about it is how much it sucks because it looks like Windows?
For one, Windows pro users pay $150-$200 for an uprgrade and $300 for a full version. Tiger DVD is $130 and that's the full version (this means you can throw the old CD). Home really isn't in the ballpark as Mac OSX but its $100 for upgrade and $200 for the full cd. Whether you called it 10.4 or 14, it pretty much the same thing- a major update. You would know this if actually visited Apple site before commenting. You major DORK!!!
Now, I don't why you bother commenting without any insight whatsoever. Use a Mac and compare it to Windows before you run your mouth. Moreover, who were the four dipshits that modded you insightful?! I seriously think Slashdot is being overrun.Don't bother replying. I not wasting another minute your ass by checking back. Just consider this an education
I agree with you. I never understood why Apple hobble the low end PowerMac. It should be PCI-X and 8GB Ram capable across the board. I would seem to me cheaper to just produce one board for all 3 Powermac systems and just set the bus speed accordingly.