Re:When four corners is too much
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Drafting GPL3
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"Trying to pretend like their organization represents the entire movement is silly and pure hubris."
There was no free software movement -- let alone open-source -- before RMS. The free software days from Universities in the 1970s and 1960s had alread vanished and the only software free for any use by the day he started the movement was in the public domain or the yet to come freewares and sharewares ( not free to modify them though ).
Would you have *BSDs, Apache, Perl, PostgreSQL, Eclipse, Mozilla and others today wasn't it for RMS original efforts and his example?
i believe not.
Re:Congratulations are in order!
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A Decade of PHP
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So that you can feel you have a big penis?
Same for coding apps in assembly or OSes in Python... it can be done, though isn't really worth the trouble and will feel very awkward.
"those aren't all core functions. They're just functions that are distributed with the core"... is that there's no module mechanism in the language: all of them share the same namespace and name clashes can and will occur.
"Go peruse Freshmeat and Sourceforge sometime. I think you will find a similar ratio of junk to usefulness."
Yes, but just notice that Freshmeat, Sourceforge and other similar _free_ software repositories didn't exist in the 1980's anyway. That goes a long way into giving an idea of how much software was free those days...
Besides, you'll won't find many worthy free softwares in those company-sponsored repositories. Try the GNU project or any other free software projects...
yes, GCC would never fit in a 1980's cassete. but let's keep with the times, ok?
"Not all software in the 80's commercial or shareware. There was also a ton of FREE SOFTWARE"
Yes, to all 10 freewares or sharewares there was about 1 public domain software worth it.
"Look up small c sometime."
Just googled it. Compiles a small subset of C. I wonder about the performance of the generated code.
It's free software: public domain, to be specific. Any company can take the code, make it one better, close it and make anyone forget about the crappy public domain original. Well, i guess the same argument could be said about non-GPL free software licenses.
"RMS didn't change the world. The real truth is if it was not for Linux there is a very good chance that RMS and GPL would be a footnote."
Regardless, it's still his merit. Thanks to GCC and the other tool from the GNU toolchain.
Still, i doubt such software as GNU Emacs, GNU make, GNU bash and other essentials would go unnoticed...
yes, man. i know that! we know the code is managed by a VM. i was just making a point that it was M$ who coined the term. because "managed" rings a bell to PHBs types. they are marketing geniuses, man...
yes, but you see, they could just as well use bytecode, VM or any other technical term. why do you think they decided on "managed code", a buzzword never heard before...
that sure sounds very good to PHBs. i guess it's one of those marketing term that really sell a system. Java's bytecodes mean nothing to PHBs but "managed code" really sounds damn nice to their ears...
M$ sure are some damn marketeers...
Microsoft monopoly is built upon new methods of locking in customers. They always have to create and hype new tecnologies to stay alive.
besides,.NET should only provide the API for applications programmers. Doubtfully would its performance be any good or even possible as the basis for an OS itself...
this is worse than Start Wars countless sequels
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Morpheus is Dead
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I thought humans and machines have settled after Neo gave his life to help the machines counter Agent Smith threat to the system in that lousy last movie.
what's going on that Morpheus is ( was ) still making war with the machines?
ah, i see. without war, it isn't very compelling a product, is it?
At least, the open-source movement has brought together a handful of great programming languages and models that the commercial ones can't even touch.
I'm thinking Ruby, Python, Perl, OCaml, Haskell and others. Truly innovative, feature-rich, expressive and concise languages.
Now, compare that with recent offerings from the proprietary world: Java, C# together with the tons of libraries you need in order to cope with such poor expressiveness and heavy IDEs to deal with such a messy, redundant and overloaded environment...
truly sad state of affairs for the proprietary guys and those who make a living by blindlessly following them...
Another one with great voice acting. Actually, i believe the great acting, coupled with the great script and storyline are what made the game so great. A true high watermark at the time...
Free as in beer. The same as the.Net platform and command-line tools, btw...
"2. Java has an On-Line users manual that is top notch."
same for.Net, like it or not.
"3. Java is not Microsoft"
Nope. But it should read: "Sun is not M$ ( though they would really love to be )".
Or.Net is M$'s Java libraries and C# their java language...
"4. Java has way better 3rd party SDKs (I.E. eclipse) than.NET"
IDEs are for losers. Gimme a powerful, expressive language ( Python, Ruby, Haskell, Ocaml ), capable of yielding the power of ten java imports in a sentence, and a good text-editor ( XEmacs ) and i'm sold.
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"Trying to pretend like their organization represents the entire movement is silly and pure hubris."
There was no free software movement -- let alone open-source -- before RMS. The free software days from Universities in the 1970s and 1960s had alread vanished and the only software free for any use by the day he started the movement was in the public domain or the yet to come freewares and sharewares ( not free to modify them though ).
Would you have *BSDs, Apache, Perl, PostgreSQL, Eclipse, Mozilla and others today wasn't it for RMS original efforts and his example?
i believe not.
So that you can feel you have a big penis?
Same for coding apps in assembly or OSes in Python... it can be done, though isn't really worth the trouble and will feel very awkward.
"those aren't all core functions. They're just functions that are distributed with the core" ... is that there's no module mechanism in the language: all of them share the same namespace and name clashes can and will occur.
class alone won't cut it.
Anyway, nice to see new creative ways of killing people painlessly.
Gangsta: "You're dust ( make that plasma ), you fucker!"
what exactly has Eclipse to do with Linux?
i'd they say Java and Linux are competing platforms. if you write your app in java, it's platform neutral: runs on Linux, Windows, MacIntosh etc...
still letting me use best practices and design patterns
<sarcasm>yes, putting related code and classes into discrete modules and explicitely importing them or declaring ( locally scoped ) variables.
</sarcasm>Rails is not that great as hype may make you think, but PHP is a big pile of crap.
besides, Ruby is far better and expressive a language than PHP.
it didn't create the form fields in the order specified. granted, it could be a bug then and no more today.
still, i find it a bit worrysome to let a web framework handle all database stuff for me.
i'll buy that when i see a high traffic site like /. written in it.
i tried a version a few months ago and it didn't work all that great with PostgreSQL...
"Go peruse Freshmeat and Sourceforge sometime. I think you will find a similar ratio of junk to usefulness."
Yes, but just notice that Freshmeat, Sourceforge and other similar _free_ software repositories didn't exist in the 1980's anyway. That goes a long way into giving an idea of how much software was free those days...
Besides, you'll won't find many worthy free softwares in those company-sponsored repositories. Try the GNU project or any other free software projects...
yes, GCC would never fit in a 1980's cassete. but let's keep with the times, ok?
"Not all software in the 80's commercial or shareware. There was also a ton of FREE SOFTWARE"
Yes, to all 10 freewares or sharewares there was about 1 public domain software worth it.
"Look up small c sometime."
Just googled it. Compiles a small subset of C. I wonder about the performance of the generated code.
It's free software: public domain, to be specific. Any company can take the code, make it one better, close it and make anyone forget about the crappy public domain original. Well, i guess the same argument could be said about non-GPL free software licenses.
"RMS didn't change the world. The real truth is if it was not for Linux there is a very good chance that RMS and GPL would be a footnote."
Regardless, it's still his merit. Thanks to GCC and the other tool from the GNU toolchain.
Still, i doubt such software as GNU Emacs, GNU make, GNU bash and other essentials would go unnoticed...
yes, man. i know that! we know the code is managed by a VM. i was just making a point that it was M$ who coined the term. because "managed" rings a bell to PHBs types. they are marketing geniuses, man...
"it's a commonly used term"
.Net to PHBs as opposed to Java technology.
It's only "commonly used" ever since M$ marketroids invented it to sell the "virtues" of
"managed code" was never a technical term anywhere.
yes, but you see, they could just as well use bytecode, VM or any other technical term. why do you think they decided on "managed code", a buzzword never heard before...
that sure sounds very good to PHBs. i guess it's one of those marketing term that really sell a system. Java's bytecodes mean nothing to PHBs but "managed code" really sounds damn nice to their ears... M$ sure are some damn marketeers...
Microsoft monopoly is built upon new methods of locking in customers. They always have to create and hype new tecnologies to stay alive.
.NET should only provide the API for applications programmers. Doubtfully would its performance be any good or even possible as the basis for an OS itself...
besides,
a bewoulf cluster of PS3s!!
I thought humans and machines have settled after Neo gave his life to help the machines counter Agent Smith threat to the system in that lousy last movie.
what's going on that Morpheus is ( was ) still making war with the machines?
ah, i see. without war, it isn't very compelling a product, is it?
At least, the open-source movement has brought together a handful of great programming languages and models that the commercial ones can't even touch.
I'm thinking Ruby, Python, Perl, OCaml, Haskell and others. Truly innovative, feature-rich, expressive and concise languages.
Now, compare that with recent offerings from the proprietary world: Java, C# together with the tons of libraries you need in order to cope with such poor expressiveness and heavy IDEs to deal with such a messy, redundant and overloaded environment...
truly sad state of affairs for the proprietary guys and those who make a living by blindlessly following them...
... they are learning it the hard way that having a ( mostly ) standards-compliant rendering engine and an obsolete, crap one isn't going to work...
yeah, right. No John Williams whatsoever. No E.T., nor Jaws, nor Superman, not even frigging Star Wars soundtracks anywhere to be seen.
You know critics: they love to play intelectual and snob...
Another one with great voice acting. Actually, i believe the great acting, coupled with the great script and storyline are what made the game so great. A true high watermark at the time...
"Free beer is good"
Yes, but it's better when you get the recipe to do it and possibly improve it yourself.
"1. Java and the developnent platform is FREE."
.Net platform and command-line tools, btw...
.Net, like it or not.
.Net is M$'s Java libraries and C# their java language...
.NET"
Free as in beer. The same as the
"2. Java has an On-Line users manual that is top notch."
same for
"3. Java is not Microsoft"
Nope. But it should read: "Sun is not M$ ( though they would really love to be )".
Or
"4. Java has way better 3rd party SDKs (I.E. eclipse) than
IDEs are for losers. Gimme a powerful, expressive language ( Python, Ruby, Haskell, Ocaml ), capable of yielding the power of ten java imports in a sentence, and a good text-editor ( XEmacs ) and i'm sold.
I love to hate Windows