I have a 4 that I use all day, every day and I charge it every other day. My friend brings her charger to the lab with her because her SII needs to be topped up during the day. Maybe the SIII is better, but she is not the only one I've heard complain about battery life.
I can't say it's ever been an issue on any iPhone I've used. She loves the SII (it's her second one after her first one was stolen), but she is considering swapping for something else so she doesn't have to carry her charger with her everywhere.
Also not the first time Apple has had to swallow it's pride and admit failure - MobileMe was a pretty big and public one (from Steve himself during a keynote, no less) among others.
I'm quite ignorant of organic chemistry, but I thought hydrocarbons were fossils. How can there be hydrocarbons without life? Or am I WAY off in my ASSumptions?
There are plenty of organic molecules out in space. All organic means is "contains carbon".
Organic compounds form anywhere there is carbon, which is made in stars and spread around by supernovae. Given that hydrogen makes up 99.8% of the stuff out there most of the carbon compounds you find in space are simple hydrocarbons, either aliphatic stuff like methane and ethane or aromatics like naphthalene and other poly-aromatic systems.
... are you stupid? Of course they use proper units.
This is a press release intended for the general public.
You'd think so, but tell that to the Mars Climate Orbiter which was expecting SI units but instead was given horses per submarine per twatwaffle or some other such ancient unit and took a steep dive into the atmosphere and burned up.
The reason why Apple charges 30%, even if that may seem high, is that its FAIR!
I can hardly think of any reasonable definition of "fair" in this context that would be *that* simplistic. It's the same with taxes. You can only keep saying "if everyone pays 20% income tax it's FAIR" until you realize that poorer people are more taxed by consumption/excise taxes already. Different app costs, differtent app complexity...BTW, what are the actual costs to Apple anyway?
Near enough the 30% they charge - the app store operates at a very modest profit that is almost a blip in the noise compared to their hardware profits. Whether the in-app costs are similar (I doubt it), they really don't add to the profitability much overall. The slice of the pie chart is small enough to need to be annotated from the outside with a line pointing at it, compared to "iOS hardware" and "Mac hardware" which are easily chunky enough to fit their label inside the wedge.
As much as I hate Microsoft, I'm behind them here. Perhaps they should just drop all their apps suddenly and promote the Android and Windows Phone versions?
Who do you think has more to lose here?
Microsoft makes its money from software - the two biggest pieces from Windows and Office respectively. Right now Office is conspicuously missing from iOS, and MS absolutely does not want to see alternatives like iWork (unlikely) or Google Docs (much, much more likely) from becoming a serious threat to one of its cash cows.
Apple could take or leave Office on iOS - sure it would be another beneficial selling point, but at this point they are selling iOS devices almost as fast as they can make them, so it doesn't seem like the lack of Office on the platform is really hurting much right now. That might change in the future, but for every day that they wait, the entrenched behemoth loses more ground to Google Docs and other options.
Microsoft can't afford to just ignore the biggest/second biggest (depending on the time of the month and which specific set of stats you use) mobile OS.
What? That is the most made up, sympathy-baiting term I've heard on this site. Oh, and not everyone on this site (far from it) is a software developer.
I think you've been in a coma or living under a rock the past few years. I suggest you click on this link, read up on the stories that come up in the first few pages of the search and then come back to Slashdot to debate with a straight face that developer freedom is not lost on the iOS App Store compared to the PC or even Android.
Apple not shipping GPLv3 apps is not Apple's fault. That's the fault of the GPLv3, for better or worse - the licence was *designed* that way.
On the other hand, Apple is perfectly fine with GPLv2.
As far as Psystar goes, the decision made in the case worked out well for everyone (even the GPL, gasp!) since the commercial sale of someone else's product (and the freedom to ignore the terms set by the owner of said product) were central to the case.
You may not agree with Apple's choice to only licence OS X to run on Apple hardware, but *it is their choice to make*. Psystar ignored this and sold computers with OS X on them. Had they won that battle, anyone would now be free to do what they wanted with software code - for example, they could ignore the terms of the GPL. After all, if you're free to ignore Apple's terms about what you can do with code it controls then the same is true for every other licence.
They "killed off" Psystar by taking them to court to stop them doing something they should never have been doing in the first place.
VLC was removed from the Apple store because Apple's TOS are incompatible with the GPL. Whether it's appropriate on the Windows store depends on Microsoft.
This is not true. VLC was removed from the App Store because a VLC developer asked Apple to remove it.
Apple had already modified their TOS to be compatible with the GPL (up to v2) before that.
"Any code touching the user interface created within this endeavor will be licensed under the GNU General Public License Version 2 or later (GPLv2+), possibly with an exception for the Windows Store if needed."
I remember vaguely that there once was a VLC for iOS around before some internal debate about whether or not this sort of port was acceptable with the GPL caused apple to remove it. Exception for Windows Store? How should that work out then?
It wasn't the GPL that caused Apple to remove VLC from iOS, it was one of VLC's developers objecting to his code being used on iOS and asking Apple to take it down, so they did.
The app store is compatible with GPLv2, but not v3.
For myself, I'd be happy with a solid 20 megabit connection. What I really want is:
20 megabits upstream as well as downstream, so things like VoIP don't choke on multiple users and I can upload files to an external server without causing congestion.
A connection that stays 20 megabits instead of getting choked down to a fraction of that when a bunch of neighbors start using their connections heavily.
Which means gigabit or better to the local distribution point, and neighborhood infrastructure that can handle the aggregate bandwidth. Most of the problems I have aren't my individual connection's bandwidth, it's the shared local infrastructure between my home's connection point and the ISP that's insufficient for the bandwidth of all the connected subscribers. Fix that and give me symmetric bandwidth and I'll be a happy camper.
Virgin started to realise (listened?) that their customers increasingly wanted this and the upstream has been steadily getting better here. A year or so ago they bumped everyone up on the upstream for free, and they consolidated their plans a little recently.
It's far from symmetrical (you can pay them for symmetrical 200/200, but be prepared to fork out), but the basic plans are pretty good now - 20/1, 60/3, 100/5 with no caps (just throttling on upstream if you exceed thresholds at peak times like the evening, but otherwise are non-monitored).
I'm on the 60/3 plan and have found that 3 Mbit upstream is more than adequate for video chatting and file uploads to the campus network etc. 7 MB downstream (and it's consistently as advertised, even at peak times) is just gravy.
I agree though, 1Gbs for the last mile right now is overkill - I can install Fallout New Vegas from scratch on steam in under 15 minutes, and I'm not even on the top plan - but pushing more ISPs into offering better upstream is the key.
the last mac I bought was not even a year old when saint jesus jobs deemed my very expensive computer unworthy of OSX... 8 years later someone figured out if you swap two bytes in ram you could run upto os 10.2 on the fucker.
So making a decision to fuck over customers cause he wanted basically the same machine in a dumb shit blue case is just one of a billion reasons that arrogant con-artist deserves a boot up his used car salesman ass, both in life and in death.
Course now that he is dead, he cant dazzle you morons with a new toy
What Mac? Give us the actual product code too.
A year old and unable to run OS X? So it was a PPC G3 or something? No, it must be older, since G3's could run OS X. PPC 603?
Not sure how that got modded "overrated" when it's a direct, salient reply correcting the misquote in the summary with the actual words printed on the device itself.
I'd be absolutely delighted to understand what makes that "overrated" when it's already at the base score.
Also, none of these web data usage studies takes into account the number of old iphones used only on wifi as the users have moved on to to newer phones. I have two of these sitting around my house. They run news update apps 24/7. The kids use them for web surfing occasionally. But because they are behind a router, web sites can't tell if its one, two, or seven. So in that case, what the web site can gather from it's logs speaks more to the installed base and durability of ancient IOS devices than the amount of actual use.
From the tone of your post I see you think this is some sort of contest. I have no dog in this fight, I'm just talking about what I've heard.
The "high data use bugs" are a red herring - the browser use stats come from webserver logs and the supposed bugs can't account for the level of traffic seen (also, are the bugs browsing specific web pages with the browsing patterns of a person?!). The proportion of http requests from the bugs vs the actual web use of people actively using the device is going to be extremely small. If that's your argument about... what exactly? To make yourself feel better than Android has a lower percentage of web browser traffic? I'm not sure what you're trying to say here? Like I said, it's not a contest, it's stats.
Why couldn't they license IOS after they saw Android approaching. If with higher profit margins for apple, if the smartphone war copies the pc war, their market share will eventually dwindle to a point where they struggle to stay afloat.
It will?
I'm not seeing how they're going to struggle to stay afloat. Apple will do what it has always done - sell the products it wants to and keep tight control of the vertical integration.
Licensing their OS nearly killed them back in the day, so I doubt they'll ever do that again.
They're one of the few PC vendors who are actually growing in a stagnant/shrinking space (looking exclusively at PCs and not iOS devices) despite their small market share in that segment.
They sell iPhones as fast as they can make them, and in greater and greater numbers. The fact that they're losing marketshare just shows that the market is growing healthily.
It only means more people use iPhones on Slashdot.
Not really - that trend is replicated across a wider range of web traffic.
For whatever reason people browse the internet more on iOS devices than Android ones, despite Android's smartphone marketshare. It's probably got a lot to do with the iPad.
I certainly see how you draw the inference that "compound" can be used this way, but I have yet to find any online source using it this way. Can you give any links to sources that actually refer to a polyatomic ion as a "compound"?
Why are you syncing a visitor's phone with your iTunes library?
Because the visitor wanted to charge his phone, and iTunes "helpfully" started. Or because I want to share one song with a given visitor.
Then read the great big warning box that says "this iPhone is not connected to the iTunes library it normally uses. Do you want to sync it with this library?" [Sync with this library (warning will delete all data), [Do Not Sync]
why does an itunes story have a "drm" logo when itunes was the first webstore to sell drm free music?
Personally I dislike the AAC tracks which are incompatible with everything, which is the trouble with patent encumbered formats [No MP3 has nothing like the same problems]. I also find it kind of sad that those who bought those DRM (128-bit) laden tracks are not getting those tracks either upgraded to a higher quality version...or having the DRM removed. I think there are better stores today elsewhere, Amazon offers DRM free 256kb tracks....of course this does not say a lot about all the over content offered in iTunes which is still heavily DRM.
What are you smoking and where can I get it?
I use Apple's purchased-from-iTunes-AAC tracks in Ubuntu. Not sure how they're "incompatible with everything". Maybe I'm just imaging that they work with every (non-Apple) device I have used them on, including my cousin's Galaxy Ace (that's a mobile telephone running a popular OS based on Linux called Android).
Have you ever used a computer before today's slashdot post? Whose account did you buy given how low the UID is?
IANAn Apple user, but isn't there a way to remove drm's from Apple music, by burning the tracks to disc then copying them back from the disc?
I stopped paying for music after cd's. Just rebuilt my mp3 collection in less than 2 months by borrowing/ripping library CDs. After having backed up over 9000 tracks to flashdrive, I'm done for awhile.:-)
Yes, you can do that. You can also pay a small upgrade fee (about $0.20 per track in the US store I think?) to upgrade all of your prior DRM purchases to the new unencumbered versions.
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Battery life? Compared to what?
I have a 4 that I use all day, every day and I charge it every other day. My friend brings her charger to the lab with her because her SII needs to be topped up during the day. Maybe the SIII is better, but she is not the only one I've heard complain about battery life.
I can't say it's ever been an issue on any iPhone I've used. She loves the SII (it's her second one after her first one was stolen), but she is considering swapping for something else so she doesn't have to carry her charger with her everywhere.
Also not the first time Apple has had to swallow it's pride and admit failure - MobileMe was a pretty big and public one (from Steve himself during a keynote, no less) among others.
I'm quite ignorant of organic chemistry, but I thought hydrocarbons were fossils. How can there be hydrocarbons without life?
Or am I WAY off in my ASSumptions?
There are plenty of organic molecules out in space. All organic means is "contains carbon".
Organic compounds form anywhere there is carbon, which is made in stars and spread around by supernovae. Given that hydrogen makes up 99.8% of the stuff out there most of the carbon compounds you find in space are simple hydrocarbons, either aliphatic stuff like methane and ethane or aromatics like naphthalene and other poly-aromatic systems.
... are you stupid? Of course they use proper units.
This is a press release intended for the general public.
You'd think so, but tell that to the Mars Climate Orbiter which was expecting SI units but instead was given horses per submarine per twatwaffle or some other such ancient unit and took a steep dive into the atmosphere and burned up.
The reason why Apple charges 30%, even if that may seem high, is that its FAIR!
I can hardly think of any reasonable definition of "fair" in this context that would be *that* simplistic. It's the same with taxes. You can only keep saying "if everyone pays 20% income tax it's FAIR" until you realize that poorer people are more taxed by consumption/excise taxes already. Different app costs, differtent app complexity...BTW, what are the actual costs to Apple anyway?
Near enough the 30% they charge - the app store operates at a very modest profit that is almost a blip in the noise compared to their hardware profits. Whether the in-app costs are similar (I doubt it), they really don't add to the profitability much overall. The slice of the pie chart is small enough to need to be annotated from the outside with a line pointing at it, compared to "iOS hardware" and "Mac hardware" which are easily chunky enough to fit their label inside the wedge.
As much as I hate Microsoft, I'm behind them here. Perhaps they should just drop all their apps suddenly and promote the Android and Windows Phone versions?
Who do you think has more to lose here?
Microsoft makes its money from software - the two biggest pieces from Windows and Office respectively. Right now Office is conspicuously missing from iOS, and MS absolutely does not want to see alternatives like iWork (unlikely) or Google Docs (much, much more likely) from becoming a serious threat to one of its cash cows.
Apple could take or leave Office on iOS - sure it would be another beneficial selling point, but at this point they are selling iOS devices almost as fast as they can make them, so it doesn't seem like the lack of Office on the platform is really hurting much right now. That might change in the future, but for every day that they wait, the entrenched behemoth loses more ground to Google Docs and other options.
Microsoft can't afford to just ignore the biggest/second biggest (depending on the time of the month and which specific set of stats you use) mobile OS.
"Developer freedom" is lost.
What? That is the most made up, sympathy-baiting term I've heard on this site. Oh, and not everyone on this site (far from it) is a software developer.
I think you've been in a coma or living under a rock the past few years. I suggest you click on this link, read up on the stories that come up in the first few pages of the search and then come back to Slashdot to debate with a straight face that developer freedom is not lost on the iOS App Store compared to the PC or even Android.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=apple+bans+app+store
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that a developer has a divine right to have an app he makes available on the app store.
"Developer freedom" does not mean "the freedom to force someone else to sell their product".
Apple not shipping GPLv3 apps is not Apple's fault. That's the fault of the GPLv3, for better or worse - the licence was *designed* that way.
On the other hand, Apple is perfectly fine with GPLv2.
As far as Psystar goes, the decision made in the case worked out well for everyone (even the GPL, gasp!) since the commercial sale of someone else's product (and the freedom to ignore the terms set by the owner of said product) were central to the case.
You may not agree with Apple's choice to only licence OS X to run on Apple hardware, but *it is their choice to make*. Psystar ignored this and sold computers with OS X on them. Had they won that battle, anyone would now be free to do what they wanted with software code - for example, they could ignore the terms of the GPL. After all, if you're free to ignore Apple's terms about what you can do with code it controls then the same is true for every other licence.
They "killed off" Psystar by taking them to court to stop them doing something they should never have been doing in the first place.
VLC was removed from the Apple store because Apple's TOS are incompatible with the GPL. Whether it's appropriate on the Windows store depends on Microsoft.
This is not true. VLC was removed from the App Store because a VLC developer asked Apple to remove it.
Apple had already modified their TOS to be compatible with the GPL (up to v2) before that.
What is the situation with the source/GPL?
"Any code touching the user interface created within this endeavor will be licensed under the GNU General Public License Version 2 or later (GPLv2+), possibly with an exception for the Windows Store if needed."
I remember vaguely that there once was a VLC for iOS around before some internal debate about whether or not this sort of port was acceptable with the GPL caused apple to remove it. Exception for Windows Store? How should that work out then?
It wasn't the GPL that caused Apple to remove VLC from iOS, it was one of VLC's developers objecting to his code being used on iOS and asking Apple to take it down, so they did.
The app store is compatible with GPLv2, but not v3.
For myself, I'd be happy with a solid 20 megabit connection. What I really want is:
Which means gigabit or better to the local distribution point, and neighborhood infrastructure that can handle the aggregate bandwidth. Most of the problems I have aren't my individual connection's bandwidth, it's the shared local infrastructure between my home's connection point and the ISP that's insufficient for the bandwidth of all the connected subscribers. Fix that and give me symmetric bandwidth and I'll be a happy camper.
Virgin started to realise (listened?) that their customers increasingly wanted this and the upstream has been steadily getting better here. A year or so ago they bumped everyone up on the upstream for free, and they consolidated their plans a little recently.
It's far from symmetrical (you can pay them for symmetrical 200/200, but be prepared to fork out), but the basic plans are pretty good now - 20/1, 60/3, 100/5 with no caps (just throttling on upstream if you exceed thresholds at peak times like the evening, but otherwise are non-monitored).
I'm on the 60/3 plan and have found that 3 Mbit upstream is more than adequate for video chatting and file uploads to the campus network etc. 7 MB downstream (and it's consistently as advertised, even at peak times) is just gravy.
I agree though, 1Gbs for the last mile right now is overkill - I can install Fallout New Vegas from scratch on steam in under 15 minutes, and I'm not even on the top plan - but pushing more ISPs into offering better upstream is the key.
Eric Pickles is the type of ignorant fuck that should be banned from politics.
Hey, Eric. Read the Computer Misuse Act. You can indeed prosecute people for abusing the databases to which they have access.
So don't go creating yet another badly written law to try and create a deterrent to something that's already illegal.
Fucking politicians.
Hey Cederic, Read the fucking article.
Then you might realise that the "Mr Pickles" mentioned here is not Eric Pickles, but Nick Pickles, from a privacy-focussed watch group.
Fucking slashdot "readers".
the last mac I bought was not even a year old when saint jesus jobs deemed my very expensive computer unworthy of OSX... 8 years later someone figured out if you swap two bytes in ram you could run upto os 10.2 on the fucker.
So making a decision to fuck over customers cause he wanted basically the same machine in a dumb shit blue case is just one of a billion reasons that arrogant con-artist deserves a boot up his used car salesman ass, both in life and in death.
Course now that he is dead, he cant dazzle you morons with a new toy
What Mac? Give us the actual product code too.
A year old and unable to run OS X? So it was a PPC G3 or something? No, it must be older, since G3's could run OS X. PPC 603?
That's great kid, but the text on the iMacs involved specifically says "USA" and it is explicitly stated that a new line will be made in the USA.
I know "haters gonna hate" but you're grasping at straws.
I have no dog in this fight,
LOL at that, Apple fanboi.
"LOL" at what? That I have a personal interest in whether or not Android or iOS users browse the web more?
Seriously, listen to yourself. There is a life away from the keyboard and the green glow of slashdot, you know?
Psst, you also forgot to log in! Careless!
Overrated moderation on that comment? Really?
What exactly about it is overrated?
Remember folks, "overrated" is not synonymous with "I disagree". Stay classy, mods.
Not sure how that got modded "overrated" when it's a direct, salient reply correcting the misquote in the summary with the actual words printed on the device itself.
I'd be absolutely delighted to understand what makes that "overrated" when it's already at the base score.
Don't always confuse the data consumed by the iPhone as any real indication of "doing more".
There are serious bugs in the IOS system, some of them long standing ones that cause huge cellular data usage that users can't explain and can't control. There are numerous HUGE threads on Apple support forums about high unexplained data useage. And SIRI is not the only data hog.
Also, none of these web data usage studies takes into account the number of old iphones used only on wifi as the users have moved on to to newer phones. I have two of these sitting around my house. They run news update apps 24/7. The kids use them for web surfing occasionally. But because they are behind a router, web sites can't tell if its one, two, or seven. So in that case, what the web site can gather from it's logs speaks more to the installed base and durability of ancient IOS devices than the amount of actual use.
From the tone of your post I see you think this is some sort of contest. I have no dog in this fight, I'm just talking about what I've heard.
The "high data use bugs" are a red herring - the browser use stats come from webserver logs and the supposed bugs can't account for the level of traffic seen (also, are the bugs browsing specific web pages with the browsing patterns of a person?!). The proportion of http requests from the bugs vs the actual web use of people actively using the device is going to be extremely small. If that's your argument about... what exactly? To make yourself feel better than Android has a lower percentage of web browser traffic? I'm not sure what you're trying to say here? Like I said, it's not a contest, it's stats.
Why couldn't they license IOS after they saw Android approaching. If with higher profit margins for apple, if the smartphone war copies the pc war, their market share will eventually dwindle to a point where they struggle to stay afloat.
It will?
I'm not seeing how they're going to struggle to stay afloat. Apple will do what it has always done - sell the products it wants to and keep tight control of the vertical integration.
Licensing their OS nearly killed them back in the day, so I doubt they'll ever do that again.
They're one of the few PC vendors who are actually growing in a stagnant/shrinking space (looking exclusively at PCs and not iOS devices) despite their small market share in that segment.
They sell iPhones as fast as they can make them, and in greater and greater numbers. The fact that they're losing marketshare just shows that the market is growing healthily.
It only means more people use iPhones on Slashdot.
Not really - that trend is replicated across a wider range of web traffic.
For whatever reason people browse the internet more on iOS devices than Android ones, despite Android's smartphone marketshare. It's probably got a lot to do with the iPad.
I certainly see how you draw the inference that "compound" can be used this way, but I have yet to find any online source using it this way.
Can you give any links to sources that actually refer to a polyatomic ion as a "compound"?
If you log in, I might.
Why did they wrote America? Was it North America or South America? Maybe Mexico..?
They didn't. They wrote "Assembled in USA". The summary just badly misquotes what is written on them - not unusual for slashdot of course.
new simplified interface means I cannot view the list of all songs so I can drag them to a playlist. kinda sucks to be me.
View > Turn On Sidebar
Click "Music"
In main window click "songs".
Why are you syncing a visitor's phone with your iTunes library?
Because the visitor wanted to charge his phone, and iTunes "helpfully" started. Or because I want to share one song with a given visitor.
Then read the great big warning box that says "this iPhone is not connected to the iTunes library it normally uses. Do you want to sync it with this library?" [Sync with this library (warning will delete all data), [Do Not Sync]
why does an itunes story have a "drm" logo when itunes was the first webstore to sell drm free music?
Personally I dislike the AAC tracks which are incompatible with everything, which is the trouble with patent encumbered formats [No MP3 has nothing like the same problems]. I also find it kind of sad that those who bought those DRM (128-bit) laden tracks are not getting those tracks either upgraded to a higher quality version...or having the DRM removed. I think there are better stores today elsewhere, Amazon offers DRM free 256kb tracks. ...of course this does not say a lot about all the over content offered in iTunes which is still heavily DRM.
What are you smoking and where can I get it?
I use Apple's purchased-from-iTunes-AAC tracks in Ubuntu. Not sure how they're "incompatible with everything". Maybe I'm just imaging that they work with every (non-Apple) device I have used them on, including my cousin's Galaxy Ace (that's a mobile telephone running a popular OS based on Linux called Android).
Have you ever used a computer before today's slashdot post? Whose account did you buy given how low the UID is?
IANAn Apple user, but isn't there a way to remove drm's from Apple music, by burning the tracks to disc then copying them back from the disc?
I stopped paying for music after cd's. Just rebuilt my mp3 collection in less than 2 months by borrowing/ripping library CDs. After having backed up over 9000 tracks to flashdrive, I'm done for awhile. :-)
Yes, you can do that. You can also pay a small upgrade fee (about $0.20 per track in the US store I think?) to upgrade all of your prior DRM purchases to the new unencumbered versions.