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Steve Jobs Patent On iPhone Declared Invalid
An anonymous reader writes "Apple's most famous multitouch software patents are increasingly coming under invalidation pressure. First the rubber-banding patent and now a patent that Apple's own lawyers planned to introduce to a Chicago jury as 'the Jobs patent.' U.S. Patent No. 7,479,949 covers a method for distinguishing vertical and horizontal gestures from diagonal movements based on an initial angle of movement. For example, everything up to a slant of 27 degrees would be considered vertical or horizontal, and everything else diagonal. The patent office now seems to think that Apple didn't invent the concept of 'heuristics' after all."
Great!!! Apple must stop patent crap.
FTA:
Friday, June 1, 2012
Good riddance to this patent. It's yet another example of how the patent office will let just about anything slip by right now.
If putting ONE widget/idea/whatever on a machine is patentable, then putting multiple "things" on a machine is obvious. "Multitouch" is the same a "touch."
Another one: If putting wifi on a computer is patentable, then putting wifi on any computer-like device (tablets, phones, anything using a processor) is obvious.
The trolls are maybe less than half the problem. Letting these companies patent the kitchen sink just because there is a trivial change is a huge part. And they won't pay of examiners that actually know what they are doing because it means a pointy headed administrator will have to be paid less to do it.
you mean iGony
Table-ized A.I.
Jobs certainly was good at slanting.
Table-ized A.I.
Err.. Apple wanted to call it the Jobs patent, but were denied. How is it Slashdot's fault for actually referring to it as the Jobs patent?
Why those assholes take years to determine 'full' invalidity is beyond me.
Also, this patent show up Steve Jobs for the sociopath asshole that he was. Patenting a 'complete solution' is okay; patenting a small process or a way of operating a device is a fundamentally flawed approach to granting patents in the first place.
Meanwhile, millions have been lost fighting this useless patent, and HTC were idiots to settle, etc etc
If you keep throwing chairs, one day you'll break windows....
Re: "...Apple didn't invent the concept of 'heuristics' after all".
Wrong. Apple not only invented heuristics, they also invented the US Patent Office. Then patented them both!
He maybe passed on to Nirvana and taken his rightful place next Allah, Buddha and Jesus and he may of done great things while is was a mortal, pre and post resurrection (http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/1998/11/09/250834/index.htm) and of course we'd all like to this that he was superhuman and invincible.
The truth is he was none of the above and was simply a mortal human being who's also done a lot of fucked up stupid ass things, this is one of them amongst many.
I'd say its better to look at him as a real individual though did great things but also did many wrong things in the process. Otherwise get out the stones and carving rocks and etch out some prophecies to be discovered in a 1000 years by archaeologist's of that time deducing the reign of Steve Jobs on society.
Here's a sample:
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Rubbish. Here’s our own government handing the keys to our future economic prosperity over to Korea wholesale.
The sound of the jobs being flushed down the toilet may be your own.
Jubei
Friday, December 7, 2012 - 5:53 pm Reply
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Agreed. All this hard work from Apple invalidated giving the green light to slavishly copy them. The US is heading down irrelevancy by its own government.
khryshimself
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Yeah, i bet he's really upset, too.
Oh wait, he's dead, shut up.
god is just pretend.
As a (up till now) satisfied owner of Apple products, all I can say is: Good.
Maybe if they lose enough of these stupid patents, they'll start thinking less about suing the world into oblivion and go back to doing what made them the company they are now: Making products that delight their customers.
From recent events, it's clear that Apple forgot that part somewhere along the line.
I thought the communism movement was all but gone in the USA.
muahaha thanks for the laugh :-)
sorry, no mod points...
the last mac I bought was not even a year old when saint jesus jobs deemed my very expensive computer unworthy of OSX... 8 years later someone figured out if you swap two bytes in ram you could run upto os 10.2 on the fucker.
So making a decision to fuck over customers cause he wanted basically the same machine in a dumb shit blue case is just one of a billion reasons that arrogant con-artist deserves a boot up his used car salesman ass, both in life and in death.
Course now that he is dead, he cant dazzle you morons with a new toy
Personally, I think "a sticky Hitler" sounds better, and is much more intrinsically offensive.
A Godwin and a blowjob all in one.
8 years later someone figured out if you swap two bytes in ram you could run upto os 10.2 on the fucker.
That's probably what killed him.
(Too soon?)
All my liberal friends think I'm a conservative, all my conservative friends think I'm a liberal.
Does he fall down often?
IFF there is a god, I am pretty sure he/she/it is against hoarding cash like crazy.
Tomorrow is another day...
FTA:
Apple will also be barred from referring to the '949 "touchscreen heuristics" patent as "the Jobs patent". In light of how the '949 patent has been gradually marginalized in this litigation, that's not a huge loss with respect to this particular patent, though Apple might have hoped that references to Steve Jobs in connection with one patent also increase its chances of getting support from some jurors on other patents.
They did just find a Unicorn lair.....
"Here’s our own government handing the keys to our future economic prosperity over to Korea wholesale."
Apparently Steve never learned the actual lesson and message behind the movie "War Games." There are no winners in thermonuclear war. The only way to win is not to play.
I believe Jobs would have halted this as it got more ugly and apparent that Apple would lose. But since he died, there was no halting it and I suspect anyone at Apple who would want to "go against god's... err Jobs's will" would be branded a heretic or a traitor or something like that.
Apple is already losing the war over the touch screen smart phone. They are losing their intellectual property as well. They are causing harm to everyone in the industry and that includes the consumers whether they use Apple or Android or even something else.
The sooner this is concluded the better. Samsung needs a new trial. Apple's IP needs to be resolved as to what is valid and what isn't. It needs to be settled.
Looks like the laws of physics are true.
That gnarled and ugly head of reality is rising within the Cupertino One Fortress.
As the intellectual capital have very short shelf life, the real money in the bank is leaving Pronto and with it Apples future.
The question now: How long to the end?
That's probably what killed him.
(Too soon?)
Not soon enough! Jobs was a class 'A' douche-bag. He openly flaunted patents, stole IP (every "original" design he ever produced or commissioned was a direct copy of an existing item from another company, Baun suffered greatly from this http://www.idigitaltimes.com/data/images/full/2012/09/04/1223-braun-or-apple.jpg) and bullied countless REAL innovators out of business. The only "multi-touch" he ever created was what he did to customers' wallets, or it would be if screwing idiots over was anything remotely original. Jobs also abandoned and denied paternity of his first child and summarily ended all philanthropic programs (that's charity if anyone is wondering) sponsored by Apple when he took control. The only thing he ever achieved personally was to make sure anyone wearing a turtle neck (skivvy in local parlance) look like even more of a douche. What did Jobs ever do to us? He screwed us. All of us. Even those who have never and will never buy any iShit suffer because of what he's done to the industry as a whole.
the last mac I bought was not even a year old when saint jesus jobs deemed my very expensive computer unworthy of OSX...
That's a solid length of time to hold a grudge.
Patents like this are incredibly stupid. It ostensibly doesn't matter who filed them, except that the higher profile the owner is, the more damage it does. The downfall of the patent should be celebrated.
More Multi-Touch Prior art
Who dont have the same capitol to fight these insane court cases?
Its great that Samsung and Motorola and others wont have to worry about apple banning them and recalling their products over this, but what about small businesses, if there ever were such a thing in the phone market.
This is wonderful, but I know that if I went into business tommorow there are many markets I could not touch because I don't have billions backing my non-existant and B-team legal department.
I call BS Osgeld. A G4 or G5? I don't believe you bought a Mac and OS X.0 came out less than a year later. What Mac model would that be and when did you buy it?
For a while Steve Jobs made his living peddling "blue boxes" that got free long distance calls by hacking the telco switching equipment. He even stole money from his friend Steve Wozniak. And made a habit of parking in the handicap space. And smelled bad, which is some kind of crime against those in the immediate vicinity.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
Apple would have filed a patent on distinguishing right from wrong, except they never got that one to work.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
Hear, hear! Mod parent up as informative or insightful.
This is just a preliminary invalidation, not the end of the road for this patent. Many patents that are in this state survive (partially or wholly). This simply is the start of a process within the USPTO.
(Relevant Post taken from Mac Rumors discussion on this, this is not my post, but relevant for this discussion): http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=16445804&postcount=39
Folks -- a preliminary invalidation is a non-event. Every patent you apply for is almost always initially rejected. It is the way the patent examiner pushes the burden back on the inventor. They reject, you appeal, they reject, you appeal, patent issues.
Typically the findings for an initial patent application are really weak and easy to overcome.
The re-examination process is the same way. The patent examiner places himself in the position of the person trying to shoot the patent down. That is because the other party to communicate with is the original inventor and obviously they are going to push for maintaining the application. So in order to do proper due diligence, the examiner needs to find reasons to refute the patent, and then there is an appeal, and then possibly another invalidation, and another appeal and then the patent likely holds in some form.
In short... nothing to see here... move along.
I don't know the actual percentage, but I'd bet 99.9% of all patents for which a reexamination was requested receive a preliminary invalidation. And I don't think the patent office can refuse to do a reexamination on a patent.
Full Discussion here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1503872&page=1
Information is not Knowledge.
I remember the last computer my dad bought before he died was the "sawtooth" g4. I'm pretty sure the disappointment is what killed him.....
They'll just re-apply using a 26.5 degree angle.
I am a free slashdotter. I will not be modded, blogged, DRM'd, patented, podcasted or RFID'd. My life is my own.
I would like to see a new law on the books: "wrongfully or negligently issuing a patent", to be used as follows:
In the case where a patent is declared invalid, I would like to see the issuing patent office held responsible for damages done....
And to reimburse the patent applicant for:
1) the fees charged for granting the patent
2) legal fees incurred by the patent holder in attempting to defend the patent before it is struck down
And to reimburse any party who is financially damaged by the patent office having wrongfully issued a patent, such as
3) to any company which licensed the patent: any license fees paid out to use the patent
4) to any company which was sued for infringing on the patent: court costs and damages
Patents are applied for in good faith. If the recipient can be irreparably damaged due to negligence or other actions which wrong the recipient, shouldn't there be legal recourse?
Do you think they might hold "inventiveness" and the "obviousness" tests, and the search for prior art to a higher standard? Do you think they might search and remedy any weaknesses in the system?
Accountability anyone?
Sent from my ENIAC
I've said it before; The man was such a douche-bag that his coffin probably still smell smells springtime-fresh. We're going to be a very long time before the industry recovers from what he started with the latest run at the closed eco-system. Unfortunately, we're still on the downhill slope, as now Microsoft has a closed system for their wonderful new interface as well.
Yea, what a douche. Blue boxes were created to explore phone networks. Selling them for the sole purpose of putting money in your own pocket makes you a douche.
I call BS Osgeld. A G4 or G5? I don't believe you bought a Mac and OS X.0 came out less than a year later. What Mac model would that be and when did you buy it?
CODE BLUE!!!! Google it.....
An "invention" does not need to "work" to be filed.
All I can say is: GREAT! Lets have more of this.
A patent grants a monopoly on an invention for about 19 years. Steve Jobs not only stole other people's ideas; he applied for and got patents on some of them. And worse, he was using those patents not just as a defense; he wanted to destroy alternate models of computing.
In the computing world, the WALLED GARDEN, or JAIL approach followed by Apple is a minority. Or atleast it is, in the desktop space. Apple's phenomenal success in the tablet and phone space is admirable, but very BAD for the rest of the ecosystem.
According to the 'expert' referenced, Apple still has thousands of patents in these areas of computing; and the loss of 1 or 2 patents will not make any impact overall. So I hope more of these stupid patents get tossed out, and open computing platforms thrive in all form factors, including mobile and touch devices.
If you keep throwing chairs, one day you'll break windows....
the last mac I bought was not even a year old when saint jesus jobs deemed my very expensive computer unworthy of OSX... 8 years later someone figured out if you swap two bytes in ram you could run upto os 10.2 on the fucker.
So making a decision to fuck over customers cause he wanted basically the same machine in a dumb shit blue case is just one of a billion reasons that arrogant con-artist deserves a boot up his used car salesman ass, both in life and in death.
Course now that he is dead, he cant dazzle you morons with a new toy
What Mac? Give us the actual product code too.
A year old and unable to run OS X? So it was a PPC G3 or something? No, it must be older, since G3's could run OS X. PPC 603?
Blue boxes were created to explore phone networks.
"Explore" as in getting free long distance phone calls. Say, you would be an Apple employee, wouldn't you? Your attitude matches perfectly.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
A lot of the patent-wars patents have been truly idiotic, but the complicated heuristics they use to get reasonable expectations from a humans wiggly, haphazard, poorly directioned squiggles is actually pretty important, as based on even the simplest description, it seems like they speed a good deal of time in the lab developing it. Lesser touch-screen devices get confused incredibly easily.
I'd bet it's actually an arctan(1/2) angle, which would lead to an efficient implementation: if abs(rise)/abs(run) is within the range [0.5 ... 2.0], it's diagonal.
I can't think of anything great that Jobs did. He didn't invent or build anything, high level direction doesn't count for squat in my book. He was the best marketing droid/pitchman of recent history, but that just a shitty thing to be around for the rest of humanity.
which is great, as it accelerates MS's disintegration :-)
More like 'Exploit'. The phone systems then used specific tones to control it. Those 'blue boxes' just repeated the tone used to activate an authorization for a no charge long distance call. Those boxes weren't even doing anything new, as the specific tone was well know to the phreak community and hackers in general. One gained the handle of "Captain Crunch" because he found out that the whistles that came in Captain Crunch cereal at that time produced that specific tone and could be used to activate free calls. Steve Jobs merely tread upon a road well worn by those that came before, and he charged as much money as he could to those who weren't in the know.
Even long after death, he can cause quite a stir in the tech community. He's the Michael Jackson of tech industry. Hell, he's the Margaret Thatcher of tech industry! To some hero and saviour, to others a villain and a crook.
Truly a remarkable personality - take it as you will, if you've ever had anything to do with electronic consumer goods, he probably made an impact on your life at some point. There's no denying that.
Back on topic - the USPTO is finally breaking free of the Reality Distortion Field. Suddenly, something obvious doesn't feel revolutionary just because it has Apple logo on it. More 'sensational' rejections of Apple patents are under way I believe. Especially, since Apple's lawyers went haywire after Job's death. They probably think "what would Steve do" and end up doing something similar, only with much less finesse, and it doesn't seem to work just as well. Good thing SJ left Apple with billions of dollars of savings - they'll need those soon enough.
The downfall of this particular patent?
How about they just invalidate about 90% of the patents granted in the past 30 years. And, take ALL of that 90% from the computer technology industry. So much of it is prior art, or obvious based on prior art. So much more is just frivolous nonsense.
Most definitely invalidate all software patents, and methods that depend on software. Patents should only apply to tangible items, everything else is copyrightable, unless specifically excluded from copyright protection.
"Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
In 5 years, there have been 6 iphones... There seems to be a pattern here.
The stench of hypocrisy is overwhelming. Apple has made most of it's billions by utilizing slave labor in third world countries. Suddenly, they are worried about American jobs? The few jobs they are moving to America are nothing more than a publicity gambit, IMHO.
If I had a few tens of thousands of people employed directly or indirectly, and I decided to move several hundreds of those jobs to the United States, the total impact on anyone's economy would be negligible. And, the cost to me would have little impact. I would still have almost all my work performed by slave labor in third world countries.
"Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
If there is A god, he's hoarding his universe.
Wow, I'm really surprised this was lost, there was nothing else like the banding and other highly intuitive GUI features introduced by the iPhone... I just got a new book off of Amazon last week called Atari Inc Business is Fun and it has this whole section called Breakout of Myths and it totally tells the full details of Steve Jobs working at Atari and it even has input from Wozniak on building the Breakout arcade. There was actually far more detail in this book than the Jobs book so I'm glad I picked it up. If Apple's IP and Jobs legacy is dismantled you have to wonder if Apple will continue to keep putting out great product that everyone plays catch-up trying to clone :-(
Steve Jobs merely tread upon a road well worn by those that came before, and he charged as much money as he could to those who weren't in the know.
Wow, that works both specifically and generally. I'm impressed with what you did there.
Put identity in the browser.
Isn't there prior art on the iStink?
This is my first time posting to Slashdot in a while, I guess, and I just noticed my old sig from 2 1/2 years ago. I guess Google has done a bit of that identity integration with Chrome already. Yay! IT's tied to Google. Boo!
Put identity in the browser.
From wikipeida: Steve Jobs "was assigned to create a circuit board for the arcade video game Breakout. According to Atari co-founder Nolan Bushnell, Atari offered $100 for each chip that was eliminated in the machine. Jobs had little specialized knowledge of circuit board design and made a deal with Wozniak to split the fee evenly between them if Wozniak could minimize the number of chips. Much to the amazement of Atari engineers, Wozniak reduced the number of chips by 50, a design so tight that it was impossible to reproduce on an assembly line.[further explanation needed] According to Wozniak, Jobs told him that Atari gave them only $700 (instead of the offered $5,000), and that Wozniak's share was thus $350.[53] Wozniak did not learn about the actual bonus until ten years later, but said that if Jobs had told him about it and had said he needed the money, Wozniak would have given it to him."
Well, I'm going to guess that about 40% of the patents filed in the last 30 years have already expired ("been invalidated").
Put identity in the browser.
The 949 patent AKA the "Irvine" patent
You seem to be having difficulty understanding the notion of toll fraud.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
Dont forget what it will cost you to buy a "born in the USA" apple product,.....I'm afraid to even search for the markup....
Probably not, as patent applications are higher now than 30 years ago.
If this one went through I was going to file the following four patents:
Gravity, electromagnetism, strong nuclear force and weak nuclear force.
I figured once I got those approved I could sue douche-bag-patent-trolls(TM) for failing to pay me a licensing fee for their existence.
leav him alone! leave jobs alone!
Microsoft has had a closed system since 2001 when the Xbox came out. Nintendo has had one since 1985. Is either in serious trouble?
Point of fact, it was not 'hacking' the phone network, it was 'phreaking' the phone network.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Hey Woz, I need $300,000 to buy my family a home.....
Just because you are all a bunch of lemming fuck losers doesn't make steve jobs any better. Fuck you apple jobs and the lot of cock sucking weasels. God, if there were one, would certainly fuck jobs in the ass for what he did to music. I hope jobs is next to god and god is a large black cock tearing that shit up!
I built the most valuable company in human history.
atan2 is a transcendental function, which on some architectures may take more time to compute than a slope comparison that boils down to two absolute values, a division, and two subtracts.
Steve jobs is an asshole, comes from a long family of assholes, is a theif, a manipulator, and one fo the biggest douches out there, that's what. He did not invent anything, he stole a bunch of stuff, and pattented the most trivial of things. He is at best a visual designer, and deserves nothing.
Samsung F700
Dang, Jobs who died richer than belief, and started a crusade against Google for "stealing" something Jobs never owned, gets seated next to Allah, Buddha and Jesus. But Einstein, Tesla, Maxwell, Newton, and countless others who actually contributed something useful to the world never get mentioned...
That is patently false, and has nothing to do with the claim that Apple dropped support for a Mac within one year. You do realize iPhone and Mac a different? That might explain your confusion about Apple's release cycle.
Of course, that's because it was denied when he applied for it in the first place.
That you have to go picking at him like this? Really, this is the new classy Slashdot? Picking on Steve Jobs? Really?
Yeah, LEAVE BRITNEY SPEARS ALONE! err.. make that steve jobs. LEAVE STEVE JOBS ALONE!
a Beige G3
However you label it, it's still fraud.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
Yes, he was the Edison of his day - "inventing" things by employing inventors or more frequently getting it from elsewhere and tweaking it, then tying up the market behind him. He's likely to be remembered the same way as Edison while people once again ignore the flaws.
I thought iScrupture already told the True Believers that the iPhone was begotten, not made, by the almighty Saint Jobs. Isn't "sprung into being magically" just an extension of that?
That's pretty funny since the screens on the iPads and many "iLaptops" were developed in Korea anyway, don't come cheap, and each Apple purchase is "handing the keys to our future economic prosperity over to Korea" to an extent anyway :)
Not quite, but that's now starting to happen with some South Korean companies getting stuff built in a North Korean technology park. That's getting into true slave plantation working with the threat of death situations.
That story really puts things in perspective, doesn't it?
Woz: A brilliant engineer and a genuinely good person.
Jobs: A liar who will happily screw over even his closest friends to make a buck.
Which one does the media celebrate?
Required reading for internet skeptics
Not soon enough! Jobs was a class 'A' douche-bag. He openly flaunted patents, stole IP (every "original" design he ever produced or commissioned was a direct copy of an existing item from another company, Baun suffered greatly from this http://www.idigitaltimes.com/data/images/full/2012/09/04/1223-braun-or-apple.jpg [idigitaltimes.com]) and bullied countless REAL innovators out of business. The only "multi-touch" he ever created was what he did to customers' wallets, or it would be if screwing idiots over was anything remotely original. Jobs also abandoned and denied paternity of his first child and summarily ended all philanthropic programs (that's charity if anyone is wondering) sponsored by Apple when he took control. The only thing he ever achieved personally was to make sure anyone wearing a turtle neck (skivvy in local parlance) look like even more of a douche. What did Jobs ever do to us? He screwed us. All of us. Even those who have never and will never buy any iShit suffer because of what he's done to the industry as a whole.
For a while Steve Jobs made his living peddling "blue boxes" that got free long distance calls by hacking the telco switching equipment. He even stole money from his friend Steve Wozniak. [gawker.com] And made a habit of parking in the handicap space. And smelled bad, which is some kind of crime against those in the immediate vicinity.
There is nothing more pathetic in this universe than a nerd sitting in his parent's basement oozing his irrational hate into the internet.
Apple has a patent on the method and design of making an object "Springing into being magically"
PROFIT
Thank You!!!
So you bought it 5 years before OS X was announced
Jan Pieterszoon Coen?
IFF there is a god, I am pretty sure he/she/it is against hoarding cash like crazy.
So to find out whether there is a god, we just have to find out whether you are pretty sure he/she/it is against hoarding cash like crazy. :-)
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
I don't remember my login and have changed e-mails, so I can't get into my old /. account, and it won't let me tag as an AC, but...
SHOULDN'T THIS BE TAGGED WITH "suddenoutbreakofcommonsense"?
Please someone with an active /. login fix this, as that's the correct tag.
Thanks!
The highest market valued one, but certainly not the most valuable one.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
Indirectly Apple has been using slave labor, just like everyone else in the electronics industry - and you, and me, are to blame too, since we'll gladly pay for goods that used slave labor, as long as it's built far enough that it doesn't looks like it's our fault (Apple can use the same excuse). Directly they have not, since their employees are not slaves (and neither are Foxconn's, you must follow the chain a little more to reach the slaves).
The Beige G3 officially supported up to Mac OS X 10.2.8. It was a third party extension that allowed installation of 10.4.11, and if you upgraded to a G4 processor you could install Mac OS X 10.5.8. Also, Mac OS X 10.0 came out on March 24, 2001, while the Beige G3 was discontinued on January of 1999. The beige G3 was introduced in November of 1997 officially supported up to Mac OS X 10.2.8, which was replaced in October 24, 2003. The beige G3 was officially supported by Apple for 6 years, and with unofficial extensions and a processor upgrade you could have run OS X 10.4.11 until October 26, 2007 when 10.5 came out (not that you had to stop using the machine). That is a total of 10 years from introduction to obsolescence.
He is at best a visual designer, and deserves nothing.
close but not quite, he was an excellent marketer who happened to employ good visual designers, and deserves nothing.
You really don't know much about computers or marketing.
If you think that's really slave labour you are in for a bit of a shock in a year or two. I'm not saying working conditions in Chinese are perfect, just that there is much worse out there.
When a patent gets invalidated, Apple cannot any more use it against the small guy either. It just evaporated. So this does good to the small guy as well.
Of course when there's a settlement without the patent getting invalidated, the small guy is still fucked. Unfortunately that gives big companies an extra incentive to settle: Even if it should cost them more that winning the lawsuit, it may be worth it for them by keeping new competition away.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
The one that most closely resembles all the other media personalities (make believe personalties). Now I wonder why?
Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
well maybe it wasnt a beige G3 I dont remember it was over 10 years ago and I had it a very short time
If there is A god, he's hoarding his universe.
On the contrary. He got bored and abandoned the experiment, like so many back of the fridge self contained ecosystems.
First of all, I don't see anywhere in TFS where Steve Jobs is being bashed. I haven't read TFA.
But more importantly, if Steve Jobs were an honest and well-meaning engineer, don't you think they would want to commemorate him more with a branding of some functional product rather than a legal device which takes away others' ability to do the same?
The is the reason you're looking for. Steve Jobs was not a good person, and the public perception of him is largely that of an idol. In truth, he was a selfish, mistreatful jerk who would use any means, no matter how immoral ('I'm going thermonuclear on Android!'), to dominate the market. Samsung's lawyers at the latest Apple v Samsung hearing put it best:
We see what Apple is doing. It's an intentional engagement of "thermonuclear war," throughout the world. It's an attempt to compete in the courthouse rather than the marketplace. [After the preliminary injunction] Apple went to our customers and misused the "colorably different" langauge, and told them they couldn't sell any of our phones. They're using any results they get through the courts to clobber our name and prevent us from competing in the marketplace fairly, on the merits.
We don't think they're trying to establish boundaries. They're trying to cloud things and use the courthouse to compete with us.
Source: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/12/at-key-apple-samsung-hearing-judge-talks-lower-damages/
I have left slashdot and am now on Soylent News. FUCK YOU DICE.
Xbox was on some serious life support for quite a while after its birth. Nintendo seems to have done well in what they do so far.
The example you gave was a lie.
Jobs fucked music so bad that I gave up. I was touring Europe, the states, and Asia lined up. After seeing what he did, there was no reason to continue. Unless I was stupid. I hope he burns forever... If I meet him in the afterlife, I will do anything I can to hurt him. BURN you miserable fuck
Burning in an afterlife is something that Christians (and possibly Muslims?) fear. Does Buddhism have a similar type of Hell in its afterlife? If not, then it is unlikely Jobs is burning anywhere in the cosmos. In fact, most likely, he is simply not existing in any conscious form any more, while his body decomposes in its grave, just like everyone else who is no longer among the living.
And for the record, wishing eternal torture on anyone for anything they may have done while alive (infinite punishment for a finite "crime") is pretty damn sick.
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From the chart things were pretty steady at around 100,000 per year from '64 till '82. Doubled to 200kpy by '94, and doubled again to 400kpy by 2005.
Or roughly put, the number of patents filed between '64 and '84 is close to the number filed between '05 and '10.
Don't worry, you can keep slave jobs here in the U.S.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Prison_Industries
That story really puts things in perspective, doesn't it?
Woz: A brilliant engineer and a genuinely good person.
Jobs: A liar who will happily screw over even his closest friends to make a buck.
Which one does the media celebrate?
Jobs did this to a lot of people, often to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars. For awhile his trick was insisting that a written contract was unnecessary and would get in the way of friendly future business relationships, but that he'd guarantee if person X delivered Y, Jobs would compensate him with Z. Then when Y was delivered Jobs would say that there was no way he would have made such an arrangement and that X was up shit creek without a contract.
How do I patent shooting a big fat load up some hipsters nose after they smoke my pole because I have the latest iShiny? I call it the "Snowy Walrus"
Oh my, I could see someone opening a hipster artsy type shop and calling it that. That is almost as amusing when me and my little brother were talking recently about our hometown's music store (actual musical instruments and stuff like that) closing down. I commented that next time someone opens up such a place, if they are trying to think of a name for it, he should suggest "The Rusty Trombone".
Curse you, Urban Dictionary...
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Liar.
If it was older than a Beige G3 it would have been SEVERAL years before OS X. If it was after the Beige G3 it would have run OS X for a decade or so (like the Beige G3).
2600 and Phrack. Man, those were the days.
Fuck. That's terrible. how dare they raise system requirements for a new OS. The nerve of that douche.
What Mac? Give us the actual product code too.
A year old and unable to run OS X? So it was a PPC G3 or something? No, it must be older, since G3's could run OS X. PPC 603?
Probably a PPC 603e model (not supported officially, unlike the G3, which also would still be supported after 10.2), using XPostFacto as the installer. Check the XPostFacto Compatibility List for possible models of pre-G3 PCI PowerMacs, there are a whole lot of them.
Perhaps the could be called iPirateThings?
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
I think budhism believe in karma and reincarnation. Let's hope he's reincarnated as a pig or goat, so burning Jobs will satisfy our heart and stomach
Yep. Only an American would be silly and naive enough to use the term "slave" to describe Foxconn workers.
I built the most valuable company in human history.
Steve is that you?
Don't invest in lawyers to clean the shit, ignore particular patent cases, invest in legislative patent reforms and pressure your representatives. There is no point in seperating the wheat from the crap because it smells so bad.
or LG Prada
Or even IBM Simon, for that matter
It's The Golden Rule: "He who has the gold makes the rules."
Too false. The Beige G3 was supported for a decade. Go fuck yourself. At least reply to a post that wasn't started by a known pedophile.
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/06/04/corning-outs-ultra-slim-flexible-willow-glass/
What's past is NOT ALWAYS prologue for the future!
Makes sense. Now that Steve's dead, there's nobody around to PAY OFF the patent office.
"So, basically, the Patent Office simply "rubber stamps" this kind of thing and says "leave it to the courts"?"
Yes, but worse, the courts then turn round and say "The PTO wouldn't have agreed with this patent if it hadn't been valid". I.e. "Leave it to the PTO".
To true. Much to true. I am aware of that, as well, but didn't think anyone else would appreciate those details being thrown into this discussion.
I salute you, and your ability to connect the dots.
"Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
Does Buddhism have a similar type of Hell in its afterlife?
Yes, Tibetan Buddhism does, but it's not for eternity. It is one of the sections on the wheel of karma, a place you end up for one or more lives depending on your past deeds. A lot like this reality, which lies very close to it.
Come back and talk to us when you've read the patent in detail. I can agree with people who might think this patent may need better examination, but you are a fool if you think this is so clear cut and simple.
The problem is that everyone who has been sued or has had to litigate against this patent or has gone out of business because of legal action due to this patent has been screwed. They should get full compensation from Apple for lost profits, legal fees, and any winnings awarded to Apple because of the patents. All licensing fees should be refunded in full. It's only fair that hardships caused by a patent that has been invalidated should be compensated for.
"Freedom in the USA is not the ability to do what you want. It is the ability to stop others from doing what THEY want"
I'm sure he was talking about the Beige G3's, but he's misremembering considerably.
The Beige G3's were indeed dropped in support by Apple as unworthy, but they didn't do this until OS X 10.3
While many people found this to be upsetting there really was no reason one had to go to 10.3 anyway. 10.2.12 was basically 10.3 without the "pizazz"
They had a memory limit of 128MB for god's sake.
Anyway... if you really wanted to continue to upgrade there was ( and is ) the Xpostfacto tool that the author refers to that permits you to install it anyway, and despite his claim, it was actually already available when 10.3 came out because the project existed to serve even OLDER macs. IIRC they developed the support he required within months.
So it was really more likely this user was just uninformed and spent his time bitching about his problems rather than trying to solve them.
Nintendo, last report I saw was running out of steam. MS has well-documented issues, they are shrinking and just raised business prices across the board to remain even. It'll be interesting to see where they go next. They peaked in 2002 or 2003, more or less, and everything since has been one blunder after another. Win7 was just not a misstep, for a change, it certainly wasn't a great product. Win8 - check the sig....
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
Nintendo, last report I saw was running out of steam.
True, the years-old Xbox 360 beat the brand-new Wii U this past Black Friday.
MS has well-documented issues, they are shrinking
Yet its Xbox 360 beat Wii U this past Black Friday. So at least someone is profiting from a system even more closed than iOS. How has Sony Computer Entertainment been doing?
This site has become fucking pathetic.
Facebook is the new AOL
yea with a bunch of fucktards quoting "Facebook is the new AOL" and window$ ME what do you expect
Jobs got engineers to do really good work. That was his contribution to society.
He lacked the technical interest to make anything on his own. No product from Apple ever could be called new. But then again I believe the same applies to any product from any company. The distinguishing characteristic of Apple and reason for its success was not creativity but flawless execution. And again, the same could be said for Google and most successful people or companies.
Again, the reason for Apple's success was flawless execution. This execution was by the hands of the engineers, not Jobs. However, Jobs was the one who gave them the room --- and whip --- to do it.
Don't you mean Second World countries?
Comparing a speaker to an iMac, that's rich.
Yet its Xbox 360 beat Wii U this past Black Friday. So at least someone is profiting from a system even more closed than iOS. How has Sony Computer Entertainment been doing?
Man on Titanic merrily waves to man in leaking tub....
Look at MS's financials, it doesn't matter if they outsell the Wii U. Sony has been reaping its due rewards. A long time ago I pondered which company was worse - Sony or MS, and decided that Sony was by far worse. Apparently I'm not alone in thinking Sony doesn't deserve my money. I'm only hopeful that MS follows their lead.
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
I can't believe i'm reading this crap. You guys must be a bunch of twelve year olds or grumpy old men.
yeah i'm with you. with all the amazing things apple does for us like unmatched state of the art hardware and completely original innovative software why would any one take patents of them.
IFF there is a god, I am pretty sure he/she/it is against hoarding cash like crazy.
I think the reason Steve often gets a pass on the cash hoarding is because he seemed like the kind of dreamer that just might need that money someday. I don't mind that James Cameron or Richard Branson are filthy rich because I admire the way they spend much of their fortunes.
They should re-apply, but this time translate 27 degrees into radians. Hey, why not simply call it half a radian?
Lets get this correct so all you Andriod Google Sucker’s don’t have a Hart Attack thinking you got one over on Apple by this so called announcement.
The article posted here was disingenuous due to the fact that All information was not reported, it fails to add the most important information of all .. Ready.
” This is not final, repeating again it’s not final and can be appealed ”
If people would take the time and read the full post and not just the basic one that is posted here, eerone would find out that ths doesn’t mean a thing and is not by anyway final, Apple can and will go on Appeal to prove that it has the rights to this patent, while most of these patents that are singled out like Apples they do Remain intact and those patents issued are kept whole and not disturbed.
Now if anyone has a issue with this information go to Foss Patent’s and read the complete article without all the left out information, and really, all you Apple haters have nothing yet to celebrate as you may find that this patent might just prove to be stronger then you think.
And for all the Apple diehards, come on my friends, we are so aware that left out information brings in page views to pay the bills, problem is we are seeing to often at most of our regular News sites not full information, but it is up to the reader to research further to find out if any information is not included, remember make sure to click the “Read more in the full article Here” link.
Seeing this patent in its full breakdown and to those of you who have the time to access the Full version of the patent documentation and study the information, many if not all breakdowns of use have not been used before, implementation that can’t be seen as prior art and has a much diffrent way of being interpreted, when all is said and down I still believe this patent and those adjoined with it will pass and be upheld.
We learn to not take a believe everything you read approach, allot of us have gotten burned to many times.
Nice Night All.
ROFL
Could not use 28 degrees or NeXT would sue his ass.
Patents will ruin technology world.
This is trivial and obvious, the stuff some people patent these days is a fucking joke.
Do diamonds count? If so:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/12/08/exoplanets-of-the-week-a-diamond-planet-and-gas-giant-quadruplets/
QED
Look at MS's financials
Yes those record-breaking earnings are so terrible.
Finally, the patent office is using common sense.
Isn't there prior art on the iStink?
Richard Stallman.