So may be I miss something but I think the solution to the spam problem is not that hard to find and it is not by legal measure, will take only some technical expertise in implementation and relies basically on the economics of spam and some organization.
The economics of spam have been described like this: the costs of sending spam do not vary significantly wether a spammer sends hundreds, thousands or bazillions of mails. With zilch costs per spam mail a return rate of 0,0000001 still makes a lucrative business model.
Now do the calculation with setting the costs/spam at 1, 3, 5 cents (and it makes no real difference which currency you take here) - suddenly spammers see themselves confronted with a risk. IANAMBA but I assume that even a minor fee per mail would push most of the spammers out of business, leaving only the trademark behemots who in turn will be easier to grasp for some regulation like that US legislation discussed.
Who would suffer? Everyone sending mails facing a new fee? Nobody cares about real mail traffic, there should be some generous margin gratuite to cover most of the legitimate users, say 20,000 mails/day. Those millions of legitimate mail list servers with a community around them? The bulk of them would be covered by a quota of 20k mails/day but some would not. So there should be some mechanism to validate a list server by it's recipients' vote (like counting/checking subscriber submissions or asking subscribers to forward some incoming posts to an address). Policies of this kind would have to be implemented by ISPs and doing it would cost them real money. Plus, there would probably be a need to have some authority to handle disputes and testify compliance. That body would need some financing as well. On the other hand, ISPs who enforce such policies should receive a significant rebate on a global spam tax added on all interconnection fees. Again, there may arise the need for some authority to organise this. So we get a white list of testified ISPs with low spam probability. Getting on this list pays for an ISP since it helps avoid the spam tax. The 'good guys' get more customeers since they can offer less expensive services, the other ISPs have the freedom to go on like they wish, but they face the costs they induce as they have to pay the spam tax. The spammers may spam as they want but they will end up paying for the trouble they make, one way or the other. What it takes to create such a structure is: a) an according intiative and b) a accepted body to conduct. Icann? What are they doing anyway with regard to a problem which has grown to be a threat to the net?
Yes, and one of the owners of that company and co-developer of that phone is Andy Mueller-Maguhn, speaker of the German chaos computer club (ccc) and until recent one of the elected ICANN directors.
Not true. Director 9.0 (aka MX) Mac was definately done by a software house in India. That port has earned itself a sad reputation and after eleven months there still is nothing like an 9.01
The US-specials continue above the googol, this one number being communicable is nothing but an irregularity. Why this chaos? Like with decimal separators, date format, measures etc. Probably some game to test the degree of US dominance (will they use my expressions) or non-tariff trade barriors?
A fine chart of number names is at http://www.uni-bonn.de/~manfear/large.php
> How these guys could know so much about the X-box but understand so little about what happens to anyone who trys to make a deal with Microsoft is what is really amazing.
Funny how this reminds me of all those folk tales about people trying to make a deal with the devil.
Some poor guy(s) who meet a man of wealth and taste (with a bad leg) who offers them mountains of gold if they just sign this little contract... They do and they get all the richdom. And then, when he returns on the set date to collect the souls, the little men try to outsmart him (by means of pentagrams, chalk circles, asking the devil's grandmother for help etc.) In those folk tales they usually succeed. This is a popular theme; every evening I read a folk tale when I bring my kids to bed and those where the devil is tricked they like best.
I don't speak Portuges so I'm at a loss as to explain this en detail but it reminds me of other renaming of that "USA" moniker I've seen (like VSA, amiland,..) which I tend to explain as the expression of the speaker's/writer's enstrangement towards the militar/political/economical conduct of said country by writing its trademark in a strange way. Call it an linguistic attempt of anti-propaganda.
Solferino, I thought so when I read it but didn't answer since it was hard to top the black forrest trolls. Some may be part of our anchestry but living here I often feel that lots of them survived to the current day.
On the other hand, what you lined out as parody actually appears to be stated policy of those marketing crowds who over the last years have created a languoid which is neither German nor English (nor even comprehensible, to begin with.)
Riding the subway reading the ads you have to wonder how long German as a written language will survive.
But then again, I'm well known for pessimistic opinions I don't believe in myself.
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SuSE 7.1 looks a bit dated, doesn't it? But I'm not suggesting there is anything bad with it, I just didn't test it with mini-Itx and it may actually have been packaged before Via purchased Cyrix. I tried w2k, Knoppix, SuSE 8.0, RedHat 7.3 and FreeBSD 4.7 on an Epia800 with some noName Ram with results degrading in that very order. Actually, w2k was stable, Knoppix dubious, SuSE a crasheroo and the rest just wouldn't do. SuSE has an memTest boot option and that finally taught me to use brand Ram. After I fed it some Micron 256mb SuSE 8.0 installed and ran acceptable. I#m not sure if audio ever worked with SuSE as the little box runs headless as a personal server and I never have had much luck with running KDE on SuSE. With Knoppix it worked like a charm.
Ok, suppose I was to follow that advice. Now, where would I go to apply for my IPv6 numbers? My ISP is absolutely not interested in my having a static IP, in fact, they insist of closing my line every 24h only to make sure that I will have a different IP afterwards. Or, in spite of the almost obscene number of IPv6 addresses, I would still have to use adresses out of some private block just like I have to do with IPv4? If so, why should I bother?
No, I really meant 10.000,00 Euros the way numbers typically are written over here in Europe.
You may think this is laughable or plainly wrong but then again, this is exactly what people in most parts of the world people think about the American way to write numbers, dates, measures or even laws.
LinuxTag, who sent a cease and desist letter to SCO now have a written confirmation by Sco in which Sco declares the will not again say that Linux Operating Systems would contain unlawful obtained Intellectual property of sco unix. Sco Group will not say again that Linux end users could be held liable for using Linux, had to fear legal consequences nor will they repeat that Linux is an unauthorized derivate of Unix. There is a fine of 10.000 EUR if SCO fails to comply with that written confirmation.
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So may be I miss something but I think the solution to the spam problem is not that hard to find and it is not by legal measure, will take only some technical expertise in implementation and relies basically on the economics of spam and some organization.
The economics of spam have been described like this: the costs of sending spam do not vary significantly wether a spammer sends hundreds, thousands or bazillions of mails. With zilch costs per spam mail a return rate of 0,0000001 still makes a lucrative business model.
Now do the calculation with setting the costs/spam at 1, 3, 5 cents (and it makes no real difference which currency you take here) - suddenly spammers see themselves confronted with a risk. IANAMBA but I assume that even a minor fee per mail would push most of the spammers out of business, leaving only the trademark behemots who in turn will be easier to grasp for some regulation like that US legislation discussed.
Who would suffer?
Everyone sending mails facing a new fee?
Nobody cares about real mail traffic, there should be some generous margin gratuite to cover most of the legitimate users, say 20,000 mails/day.
Those millions of legitimate mail list servers with a community around them? The bulk of them would be covered by a quota of 20k mails/day but some would not. So there should be some mechanism to validate a list server by it's recipients' vote (like counting/checking subscriber submissions or asking subscribers to forward some incoming posts to an address).
Policies of this kind would have to be implemented by ISPs and doing it would cost them real money. Plus, there would probably be a need to have some authority to handle disputes and testify compliance. That body would need some financing as well. On the other hand, ISPs who enforce such policies should receive a significant rebate on a global spam tax added on all interconnection fees. Again, there may arise the need for some authority to organise this.
So we get a white list of testified ISPs with low spam probability. Getting on this list pays for an ISP since it helps avoid the spam tax. The 'good guys' get more customeers since they can offer less expensive services, the other ISPs have the freedom to go on like they wish, but they face the costs they induce as they have to pay the spam tax. The spammers may spam as they want but they will end up paying for the trouble they make, one way or the other.
What it takes to create such a structure is: a) an according intiative and b) a accepted body to conduct. Icann? What are they doing anyway with regard to a problem which has grown to be a threat to the net?
Yes, and one of the owners of that company and co-developer of that phone is Andy Mueller-Maguhn, speaker of the German chaos computer club (ccc) and until recent one of the elected ICANN directors.
There is some more info in German at heise
resume that vmware, the path is:
c:\winNT\system32\drivers\etc
Not true.
Director 9.0 (aka MX) Mac was definately done by a software house in India. That port has earned itself a sad reputation and after eleven months there still is nothing like an 9.01
as that post was interesting enough to start some discussion
18 actually when you count both 1986 as the first and 2003 as the last year.
Coincidentially hex18 equals oct30.
Though there is no such thing as coincidence.
> Heise is not a very open-source friendly news outlet. So take this with a grain of salt.
Any arguments or facts to that ?
Reading heise.de on a daily basis I am not very inclined to agree with this.
5+ insightful, me thinks.
for being so funny
> Everyone defines millions and billions the same.
Right, with the only exception of the US who seem to have their private system.
math US UK DE greek prefix abbr.
10^9 billion milliard Milliarde gillion Giga- G
10^12 trillion billion Billion tetrillion Tera- T
10^15 quadrillion billiard Billiarde pentillion Peta- P
10^18 quintillion trillion Trillion hexillion Exa- E
10^21 sexillion trilliard Trilliarde heptillion Zetta- Z
10^24 septillion quadrillion Quadrillion oktillion Yotta- Y
10^27 octillion quadrilliard Quadrilliarde ennillion
10^30 nonillion quintillion Quintillion dekillion
10^33 decillion quintilliard Quintilliarde hendekillion
10^36 undecillion sextillion Sextillion dodekillion
10^39 duodecillion sextilliard Sextilliarde trisdekillion
10^42 tredecillion septillion Septillion tetradekillion
10^45 quattuordecillion septilliard Septilliarde pentadekillion
10^48 quindecillion octillion Oktillion hexadekillion
10^51 sexdecillion octilliard Oktilliarde heptadekillion
10^54 septdecillion, septendecillion nonillion, noventillion Nonillion oktadekillion
10^57 octodecillion nonilliard, noventilliard Nonilliarde enneadekillion
10^60 novemdecillion decillion Dezillion icosillion
10^63 vigintillion decilliard Dezilliarde icosihenillion
10^66 unvigintillion undecillion Undezillion icosidillion
10^69 duovigintillion undecilliard Undezilliarde icositrillion
10^72 trevigintillion dodecillion, duodecillion Duodezillion icositetrillion
10^75 quattuorvigintillion dodecilliard, duodecilliard Doudezilliarde icosipentillion
10^78 quinvigintillion tredecillion Tredezillion icosihexillion
10^81 sexvigintillion tredecilliard Tredizilliarde icosiheptillion
10^84 septvigintillion, septenvigintillion quattuordecillion Quattuordezillion icosioktillion
10^87 octovigintillion quattuordecilliard Quattuordezilliarde icosiennillion
10^90 novemvigintillion quindecillion Quindezillion triacontillion
10^93 trigintillion quindecilliard Quindezilliarde triacontahenillion
10^96 untrigintillion sexdecillion Sexdezillion triacontadillion
10^99 duotrigintillion sexdecilliard Sexdezilliarde triacontatrillion
10^100 googol googol ein Googol
The US-specials continue above the googol, this one number being communicable is nothing but an irregularity.
Why this chaos? Like with decimal separators, date format, measures etc. Probably some game to test the degree of US dominance (will they use my expressions) or non-tariff trade barriors?
A fine chart of number names is at
http://www.uni-bonn.de/~manfear/large.php
and HPQ really should be forced to return at least one of them, not?
> How these guys could know so much about the X-box but understand so little about what happens to anyone who trys to make a deal with Microsoft is what is really amazing.
Funny how this reminds me of all those folk tales about people trying to make a deal with the devil.
Some poor guy(s) who meet a man of wealth and taste (with a bad leg) who offers them mountains of gold if they just sign this little contract...
They do and they get all the richdom.
And then, when he returns on the set date to collect the souls, the little men try to outsmart him (by means of pentagrams, chalk circles, asking the devil's grandmother for help etc.) In those folk tales they usually succeed.
This is a popular theme; every evening I read a folk tale when I bring my kids to bed and those where the devil is tricked they like best.
> Venal States of America
For example, though in the context I found the use of VSA it merely translated the acronym from Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika.
> The **AA's of the world
**AA is **Association of America
makes me wonder how many Americas bearing **AA we currently have on this planet.
It's called Portuguese in English speaking countries and the USA.
[] You do realize they don't speak Spanish in Brazil
as it answers the question! informative
I don't speak Portuges so I'm at a loss as to explain this en detail but it reminds me of other renaming of that "USA" moniker I've seen (like VSA, amiland,..) which I tend to explain as the expression of the speaker's/writer's enstrangement towards the militar/political/economical conduct of said country by writing its trademark in a strange way.
Call it an linguistic attempt of anti-propaganda.
Solferino,
I thought so when I read it but didn't answer since it was hard to top the black forrest trolls. Some may be part of our anchestry but living here I often feel that lots of them survived to the current day.
On the other hand, what you lined out as parody actually appears to be stated policy of those marketing crowds who over the last years have created a languoid which is neither German nor English (nor even comprehensible, to begin with.)
Riding the subway reading the ads you have to wonder how long German as a written language will survive.
But then again, I'm well known for pessimistic opinions I don't believe in myself.
SuSE 7.1 looks a bit dated, doesn't it? But I'm not suggesting there is anything bad with it, I just didn't test it with mini-Itx and it may actually have been packaged before Via purchased Cyrix.
I tried w2k, Knoppix, SuSE 8.0, RedHat 7.3 and FreeBSD 4.7 on an Epia800 with some noName Ram with results degrading in that very order. Actually, w2k was stable, Knoppix dubious, SuSE a crasheroo and the rest just wouldn't do. SuSE has an memTest boot option and that finally taught me to use brand Ram. After I fed it some Micron 256mb SuSE 8.0 installed and ran acceptable.
I#m not sure if audio ever worked with SuSE as the little box runs headless as a personal server and I never have had much luck with running KDE on SuSE. With Knoppix it worked like a charm.
Ok, suppose I was to follow that advice. Now, where would I go to apply for my IPv6 numbers? My ISP is absolutely not interested in my having a static IP, in fact, they insist of closing my line every 24h only to make sure that I will have a different IP afterwards.
Or, in spite of the almost obscene number of IPv6 addresses, I would still have to use adresses out of some private block just like I have to do with IPv4? If so, why should I bother?
I smell a troll, anyway:
No, I really meant 10.000,00 Euros the way numbers typically are written over here in Europe.
You may think this is laughable or plainly wrong but then again, this is exactly what people in most parts of the world people think about the American way to write numbers, dates, measures or even laws.
Sco Group will not say again that Linux end users could be held liable for using Linux, had to fear legal consequences nor will they repeat that Linux is an unauthorized derivate of Unix.
There is a fine of 10.000 EUR if SCO fails to comply with that written confirmation.
More details (in German):
heise.de
mod parent up as informative