Your spelling is flawless, 100 Pfennig equalled 1 Mark in the days before the euro.
On the other hand, the decimals are separated by a comma, not by a space. However, sometimes thousands are separated by space instead of a dot. Ie, a milliard could be written as 1.000.000.000 or 1 000 000 000 or 1000000000.
This isn't just a German thing nor limited to Europe, it's rather the US being the exception here. However, in countries influenced by Chinese culture there is a habit to separate groups of four digits.
Yeah, must be meant to frighten marsian terrorists. Anyway, should it fail and drop to the ground like a stone it may still serve to claim all of the mars as an us colony.
It is so with every new SuSE version: you'll have to wait some weeks until the version appears on the ftp server and mirrors. If you can't wait to get the newsest stuff, you'll have to buy the box. I can accept that.
The Iraqi dictator is not a victim of propaganda. His regime produces lots of propaganda, too.
His propaganda doesn't reach us, however, the propaganda originating from the US government does.
right you are, there are plenty. On the other hand, the market is volatile. services come and go all the time.
Then again, with +flatrate, +reliability and +ease of handling (as in: to lazy to change the provider) among the criteria I didn't check much else.
Telekom, as a former monopolist used to make quite competetive prices in the flat rate sector but was forced to raises by the regulation authority.
> I predict that six years from now we will all be downloading hacked BIOS images to flash our computers with to disable this technology.
Agreed. And - we'll have learned to distinguish American hardware ("trusted") from Chinese ("real").
Real in more than one sense. 'cause except from some core countries - (fanatically dedicated to 'free' trade/liberty/new world order and consequently banning the import of foreign stuff, this group is also kown as the "u"-countries, us, uk, uganda) - the rest of the world more or less agreed to avoid those "constant alert" systems. With China (PRC + Taiwan + HK + Sgp + Huaqiao in Malaysia and elsewhere) controlling 60 - 70% of the hardware business, actually producing half of the American-style boards as well, that decision wasn't hard to be done.
And us outlanders don't miss much, that Indian "Roq" Dual-Mode BIOS has quite frequent updates and - except for some of the pr0n stuff - emulates pretty well.
Some things have changed, though, hackers theese days learn Hindi or Tamil in their spare times:-}
Neander is the name of a small river in Germany, Thal is just an orthographical variant to Tal, meaning valley. So Neanderthal means just "valley of the neander"
> The difference between Unix & Windows: Unix does what you tell it to Windows does what it thinks you told it to... and MacOs does, what it assumes you should have told it in the first place.
Its somewhat astonishing to see how the sound of the projectname alone seems to induce the majority of comments. Alas, so be it.
Krupp indeed was the name of a steel corporation that used to be famous in the first half of the last century but that name hardly bears any positive associations. However, said viral disease 'croup' translates to the German word 'Krupp' as well. And another of those negative associations is valid in German, too: crapware == Kroppzeugs (with '-zeugs' meaning some not further defined stuff just like '-ware' does.)
In my ears 'Kroupware' sounds like 'groupware' plus an ironic pun on that stereotype German accent in american b-movies with an WWII topic. And that stereotype is based mostly on the fact that the US chose southern Germany as their zone of influence, therefore 'Bavarian English' moulded the stereotype. Like Bavarian pronounciation Bavaria as a whole is about as typical for Germany as Texas is for the US. (Right, we didn't get a Bavarian chancellor. But it was almost as close.)
And - still in disbelieve - I rub my eyes watching government agencies doing reasonable things. I'm not used to this.
I've read most of the comments here and I was astonished to find a focus of the discussion on questions like 'may a national governmant influence the software market by actually asking some companies to develop software and _not demanding exclusive rights on that product'.
I won't comment that discussion in detail though I have to admit some arguments seem really strange to a German reader, as if our government was somehow indebted to dutifully pay any license fee to MS since this is an American Corp.
But only few voices mentioned the political implications, security aspects, how a government has to make sure that the data, which don't belong the state but it's citizens are stored and processed in a , ehemm, trustworthy way.
Not so long ago there were quite a few discussions over that Peruvian senators eloquent letter stating that indeed a government is obliged to use OSS since it has to make sure that access to those data is under its own control so that it can guarantee for it.
The same holds true for a European government, doesn't it? Echelon? NSA-key? 'Who get's the tax money' isn't the only question. 'Who reads the mail' is an important question as well.
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>With 1.8e4806 possible locations
your fridge will have it's own snail mail code and so will your dustbin - so we can redirect all the junk mail to the dustbin mail box per default.
~dp
as funny and insightful
~dp
It didn't help him in Munich, I guess he failde to master the bavarian intonation.
~dp
Your spelling is flawless, 100 Pfennig equalled 1 Mark in the days before the euro.
On the other hand, the decimals are separated by a comma, not by a space. However, sometimes thousands are separated by space instead of a dot. Ie, a milliard could be written as 1.000.000.000 or 1 000 000 000 or 1000000000.
This isn't just a German thing nor limited to Europe, it's rather the US being the exception here. However, in countries influenced by Chinese culture there is a habit to separate groups of four digits.
~dp
Yeah, must be meant to frighten marsian terrorists. Anyway, should it fail and drop to the ground like a stone it may still serve to claim all of the mars as an us colony.
~dp
hey, this insight has been stated some 10 times above, and the same was true for all prior incarnations of the sco mindf*ck topic.
I think the argument is valid, but not new.
Ah, I smell microsoft behind all this.
So mod me redundant, too!
~dp
It is so with every new SuSE version: you'll have to wait some weeks until the version appears on the ftp server and mirrors.
If you can't wait to get the newsest stuff, you'll have to buy the box. I can accept that.
> AMD mutates to Apple over time. Just watch
Well, may be sometimes. I have an AMD here under close surveillance, for several years actually but up to now it just didn't mutate.
~dp
The Iraqi dictator is not a victim of propaganda. His regime produces lots of propaganda, too. His propaganda doesn't reach us, however, the propaganda originating from the US government does.
can you spell propaganda lie ?
right you are, there are plenty. On the other hand, the market is volatile. services come and go all the time. Then again, with +flatrate, +reliability and +ease of handling (as in: to lazy to change the provider) among the criteria I didn't check much else. Telekom, as a former monopolist used to make quite competetive prices in the flat rate sector but was forced to raises by the regulation authority.
It was a matter of minutes for me to set up T-DSL on a SuSE
> I predict that six years from now we will all be downloading hacked BIOS images to flash our computers with to disable this technology.
:-}
Agreed. And - we'll have learned to distinguish American hardware ("trusted") from Chinese ("real").
Real in more than one sense. 'cause except from some core countries - (fanatically dedicated to 'free' trade/liberty/new world order and consequently banning the import of foreign stuff, this group is also kown as the "u"-countries, us, uk, uganda) - the rest of the world more or less agreed to avoid those "constant alert" systems.
With China (PRC + Taiwan + HK + Sgp + Huaqiao in Malaysia and elsewhere) controlling 60 - 70% of the hardware business, actually producing half of the American-style boards as well, that decision wasn't hard to be done.
And us outlanders don't miss much, that Indian "Roq" Dual-Mode BIOS has quite frequent updates and - except for some of the pr0n stuff - emulates pretty well.
Some things have changed, though, hackers theese days learn Hindi or Tamil in their spare times
Neander is the name of a small river in Germany, Thal is just an orthographical variant to Tal, meaning valley.
So Neanderthal means just "valley of the neander"
> The difference between Unix & Windows: Unix does what you tell it to Windows does what it thinks you told it to ... and MacOs does, what it assumes you should have told it in the first place.
OffTopic
~dp
> ... no freely downloaded SuSE ISOs?
The announced product is not the SuSE linux distro, but another product (at least thats my understanding)
And have there ever been freely downloadable SuSE ISOs? Free network install, but definitely no ISOs at least since 6.3
~dp
Its somewhat astonishing to see how the sound of the projectname alone seems to induce the majority of comments. Alas, so be it.
Krupp indeed was the name of a steel corporation that used to be famous in the first half of the last century but that name hardly bears any positive associations.
However, said viral disease 'croup' translates to the German word 'Krupp' as well.
And another of those negative associations is valid in German, too: crapware == Kroppzeugs (with '-zeugs' meaning some not further defined stuff just like '-ware' does.)
In my ears 'Kroupware' sounds like 'groupware' plus an ironic pun on that stereotype German accent in american b-movies with an WWII topic. And that stereotype is based mostly on the fact that the US chose southern Germany as their zone of influence, therefore 'Bavarian English' moulded the stereotype. Like Bavarian pronounciation Bavaria as a whole is about as typical for Germany as Texas is for the US.
(Right, we didn't get a Bavarian chancellor. But it was almost as close.)
Full ACK.
And - still in disbelieve - I rub my eyes watching government agencies doing reasonable things. I'm not used to this.
I've read most of the comments here and I was astonished to find a focus of the discussion on questions like 'may a national governmant influence the software market by actually asking some companies to develop software and _not demanding exclusive rights on that product'.
I won't comment that discussion in detail though I have to admit some arguments seem really strange to a German reader, as if our government was somehow indebted to dutifully pay any license fee to MS since this is an American Corp.
But only few voices mentioned the political implications, security aspects, how a government has to make sure that the data, which don't belong the state but it's citizens are stored and processed in a , ehemm, trustworthy way.
Not so long ago there were quite a few discussions over that Peruvian senators eloquent letter stating that indeed a government is obliged to use OSS since it has to make sure that access to those data is under its own control so that it can guarantee for it.
The same holds true for a European government, doesn't it? Echelon? NSA-key?
'Who get's the tax money' isn't the only question. 'Who reads the mail' is an important question as well.
~dp