Indeed. With exim its fairly trivial; use exiqgrep and pass the output through 'xargs exim -Mrm'
With qmail, to the best of my knowledge, even when you have identified the mail pieces that you need to remove, you need to shut down qmail-send and then delete, what? 30,000 files? (one file per mail piece in each of the 3 'spool' directories).
That can take a while. Hours even. And all that time no mail can be delivered to the system. NO INCOMING MAIL.
To me, this is just unacceptable. Almost as unacceptable as DJB failing to pay the $500 bounty to Guninski who found a remote root exploit... in the default install of qmail on the default install of OpenBSD (on 64 bit architecture with 8G of swap). Now thats just dishonest (of DJB). But I don't want to make this a pure ad-hominem against DJB... but it *had* to be said. DJB is a litigious type so I expect that he will try to sue me over this...;)
Anyhow, I've been looking after a true *mutant* of a qmail system (patched to hell and undocumented) for the last 6 months and the end is almost in sight; replacing it with exim.
At least other debian-experienced sysadmins will be able to look after it when DJB pushes me under a bus for slandering his lovely MTA. Ooops did I say that?
Honestly, when I started I thought that qmail was a perfectly good MTA. Having the experience of looking after a legacy qmail system for 6 months has totally changed my mind.
It's not in YRO because in the UK we don't have rights, enshrined in a constitutional document, as do the people in the US.
Well you do... kind of... Magna Carta.
And if you don't rate Magna Carta very highly, remember that mere mention of it will have Tony Blair foaming at the mouth about pedophiles and terrorists...
If you believe that politics is a solution to anything whatsoever...
Then all of them.
To paraphrase Simon Magus (who was talking about the (nightmarishly complex) Hebrew Law of biblical Israel), the only purpose politics serves is the employment it provides.
Next step will be offering free satelite TV, in an attractive 'all you can eat' package on condition that you have a 'home invasion cam' installed in your lounge.
You mark my words; people will be queueing up for such an offer.
"Complexity, difficulty of use, difficulty of modification, and difficulty of extension are promoted (thought not consciously) by the GPL and other licensing methods"
I'm no physicist nor chemist and am not going to post any links but, if I recall correctly from a physics lecture I sat in on one time when I was bored at university, palladium reacts in very interesting ways when immersed in liquid hydrogen. From what I recall it soaks it up like a sponge and actually expands in volume.
Immerse it in deuterium and put it through electrolysis, well theres got to be something interesting happening in there... especially if impurities in the palladium matrix cause deuterons to be forced into close proximity.
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All criminal laws automatically fall off the books after N years without a prosecution (or conviction maybe?) under them.
Awesome concept, dude. How long has it been since a prosecution (or conviction) for assassinating a president of the USA?
Indeed.
;)
:)
With exim its fairly trivial; use exiqgrep and pass the output through 'xargs exim -Mrm'
With qmail, to the best of my knowledge, even when you have identified the mail pieces that you need to remove, you need to shut down qmail-send and then delete, what? 30,000 files? (one file per mail piece in each of the 3 'spool' directories).
That can take a while. Hours even. And all that time no mail can be delivered to the system. NO INCOMING MAIL.
To me, this is just unacceptable. Almost as unacceptable as DJB failing to pay the $500 bounty to Guninski who found a remote root exploit... in the default install of qmail on the default install of OpenBSD (on 64 bit architecture with 8G of swap). Now thats just dishonest (of DJB). But I don't want to make this a pure ad-hominem against DJB... but it *had* to be said. DJB is a litigious type so I expect that he will try to sue me over this...
Anyhow, I've been looking after a true *mutant* of a qmail system (patched to hell and undocumented) for the last 6 months and the end is almost in sight; replacing it with exim.
At least other debian-experienced sysadmins will be able to look after it when DJB pushes me under a bus for slandering his lovely MTA. Ooops did I say that?
Honestly, when I started I thought that qmail was a perfectly good MTA. Having the experience of looking after a legacy qmail system for 6 months has totally changed my mind.
I'd rather work with *sendmail*.
My favorite then (and still now) is qmail.
You had me right up till there.
Heres a litmus test for the qmail admin in you; you have 10,000 emails in your queue that shouldn't be there.
How do you remove them without shutting down your mail server?
Rugby is an absolutely brilliant game.
"Sports are gay, especially contact sports. Unless you are the only guy on both teams".
(King Missile from 'gay not gay')
After all, we first made it to the moon 37 years ago... I don't think anybody dreamed that far ahead that we'd abandon it once we achieved it
Maybe because The Moon is a Harsh Mistress?
*ducks*
Shakespeare did once posit a good lawyer solution.
No he didn't. He had some drunken idiot fantasize about killing lawyers.
Totally.
A *good* lawyer solution would be one part lawyer, 10 parts hydrochloric acid. Or whatever other acid dissolves meat best.
But being at war with a country is different than spying on your own citizens.
America is obviously at war with its own citizens.
It's not in YRO because in the UK we don't have rights, enshrined in a constitutional document, as do the people in the US.
Well you do... kind of... Magna Carta.
And if you don't rate Magna Carta very highly, remember that mere mention of it will have Tony Blair foaming at the mouth about pedophiles and terrorists...
Which "indocrination" trumps?
If you believe that politics is a solution to anything whatsoever...
Then all of them.
To paraphrase Simon Magus (who was talking about the (nightmarishly complex) Hebrew Law of biblical Israel), the only purpose politics serves is the employment it provides.
"who are under the dominion of the Reverse Vampires"
The vampires that love sunlight... and come from Tansylvania?
But the sad truth is that authorities often allow disasters to happen
Coventry.
Also...
Vietnam [snip] to a war the US ultimately lost
I thought that was supposed to have been a draw?
Next step will be offering free satelite TV, in an attractive 'all you can eat' package on condition that you have a 'home invasion cam' installed in your lounge.
You mark my words; people will be queueing up for such an offer.
We are in Australia, not the USA
So? This *is* the USA we are talking about here, and you *are* in Australia, one of the USAs most trusted 'lieutenants'...
to take a towel with you!
You wanna get high?
"They think that Hitlers first name was George."
Sure. George 'Dubya' Hitler.
"Want a real weapon of mass destruction, look no further than the amazing amounts of junk food sold."
Indeed.
And what many people fail to realise is that the actual *secret* headquarters of McDonalds is located in Iran.
"Complexity, difficulty of use, difficulty of modification, and difficulty of extension are promoted (thought not consciously) by the GPL and other licensing methods"
qmail
"Keep reversing the field fast enough and for a long enough period of time, and the core (or maybe the wires running through it?) will melt"
Shit, so for once reversing the polarity does more harm than good?
When they came for the pedophiles, I didn't speak out; the only porn site I go to is Aunt Judies.
When they came for the bestiality fans, I didn't speak out; the only porn site I go to is Aunt Judies.
When they came for the hentai fans, I didn't speak out; the only porn site I go to is Aunt Judies.
When they came for the bukkake fans, I didn't speak out; the only porn site I go to is Aunt Judies.
When they came for viewers of porn involving mature women there was noone left to speak out for me...
(My stated favorite porn site is purely fictitious and serves only as an example, I am not actually a subscriber to Aunt Judies. Honest.)
Two wrongs make a right is like saying "two lefts make a right"
They don't. Two lefts means you're going backwards.
So what you are saying, and let me make absolutely certain that I understand your reasoning here, you are saying that *three* wrongs make a right?
They are basically something that lawyers have invented to give themselves some extra cash.
Doesn't that cover almost the entirety of the legal system??
The issue in question here is about disk caching. The problem was that, if you run updatedb niced
One of the funniest things I ever saw as a sysadmin was updatedb running down an arch repository... on a database server.
Hey makeup and lighting can work miracles... I've seen photos of Princess Ann where she looked like an absolute honey!
Um, I'm pretty sure that the concept of the "donkey show" predates the Internet by quite a long time.
And anyone who doubts this should google for Apuleius and "Golden ass" also known as "The transformations of Lucius Apuleius of Madaura"
Available in Penguin Classics (or at least it *was*)
I'm no physicist nor chemist and am not going to post any links but, if I recall correctly from a physics lecture I sat in on one time when I was bored at university, palladium reacts in very interesting ways when immersed in liquid hydrogen. From what I recall it soaks it up like a sponge and actually expands in volume.
Immerse it in deuterium and put it through electrolysis, well theres got to be something interesting happening in there... especially if impurities in the palladium matrix cause deuterons to be forced into close proximity.
Or something like that...