They come with a game controller, which is a bit bulky for use as a remote control. However, it is controllable with the android tv app on a phone.
The $180 one only comes with a remote, no game controller. But there are so few games for the controller it's probably not a big deal. Main advantage is the battery life when using headphones is better on the gamepad than on the remote.
Ok that's funny, because until now it was the other way around and the slimline remote was an extra!
All Shield TVs used to come with a controller. What they're doing now is dropping the $60 controller but only giving you a $20 break on the price. Not worth it.
As a Shield TV owner I'm really happy with the quality and performance of the hardware. The problem is the damn this is crippled by only running Android TV so can only get Android TV apps without much fiddling, and generally speaking there's not a lot of software available for it.
They come with a game controller, which is a bit bulky for use as a remote control. However, it is controllable with the android tv app on a phone.
Also, supporting 4K is not the same thing as having the authorization to deliver it. Shit tons of PCs have a fully 4k-compliant delivery chain but unless you're running Edge on Windows 10, Netflix is only going to be 720p no matter what you do. Likewise, some Android client devices have special authorization to deliver 4k while others don't.
IMO, the Shield TV is a decent product that's priced a bit too high. You can stream some games to it and it can kinda-sorta act as a Plex Server with limited transcoding support, but even as someone who has a 4k HDR TV, I recognize that the use case for those things above and beyond the feature set of a FireTV or Roku box are pretty limited.
I haven't noticed any limitations on its PLEX server. And Nvidias support is extremely good.
For $200 I could just build a regular PC or buy a pretty sweet used machine. I don't get it.
I doubt that would be as silent and as UHD capable as the Shield TV box. I'll agree it's not for everyone, but the Shield TV box is the best purchase I've done in years.
As a set top box the shield can't be beaten for quality. Add to that Nvidia's enterprise-grade support for their customers (I've had extremely good support from them including a forward RMA replacement for a controller).
Building your own computer might be cheaper but it's not a superior option when you just want to stream content or use PLEX server (which is built into the shield tv).
That you're defending pepe as a meme of the alt-right when it's basically a mockery of them that they picked up as a result of refusing to admit they just don't get it says enough about you, but the idea that you can put a price on a rare Pepe should disqualify you from being your own legal guardian.
You never went to 4chan.
Also *whoosh*, that was the sound of irony flying over your head at great speed.
Things were headed in that direction, already. I've sure seen a lot less Pepes recently then I used to. Now that the lawsuit is getting fired up, I bet I'll be seeing a lot more of them again. Maybe that was the point. There's no such thing as bad publicity.
This will only serve to make the rare Pepes more valuable.
In North America (USA and Canada really) they live on debt. They couldn't live like you describe, its completely against their culture. In fact, it would probably destroy their economy if they didn't lend people more than they could pay back.
Yeah but on articles about anything related to the Sacred Tesla, anything remotely unpositive about Tesla gets modded troll very fast. So if you want to see anything thats not completely besotted with the marvelous and godly Tesla you have to lower your threshold a bit.
There, FTFY. You could also usually substitute Google for the same result.
Yeah but on articles about anything related to the Sacred Apple, anything remotely unpositive about Apple gets modded troll very fast. So if you want to see anything thats not completely besotted with the marvelous and godly Apple you have to lower your threshold a bit.
The police don't care that someone is standing in a field. Was he doing something that was illegal? Was he trespassing on private property and the owners didn't want him there, perhaps?
This is the UK. The police don't like photographs at all. Its like they are afraid they'll steal their souls or something. I've seen all kinds of examples of cops interfering with photography for no reason whatsoever. People get harassed by the cops for taking photos while standing on their own property and cops just happen to walk by at the time.
Given the fact that tractors typically put in 450-600 miles in a day... Yeah yeah, stop and charge, but given it takes a few hours to charge a car, and this will supposedly have a MUCH bigger battery pack, I guess truckers can now get 300 miles before they have to stop for 5-6 hours to recharge, meaning drive for 7 hours, charge for 6, drive for 7, charge for 6, etc. Not too conducive to rest!
Assuming it uses an all electric drive train and transmission, maintenance costs will fall through the floor. No more engine oil. No more gearbox. No more differential. etc.
All-electric cars are just solid state devices with, more or less, 4 moving parts -- the wheels. That de-complicates the entire device.
You plug it in... it just works. It's like a light bulb -you shouldn't need "support" for it.
I had a Roku controller stop working. Roku won't send replacement controllers outside the USA. Getting replacement controllers from 3rd parties is a LOT more expensive than directly from Roku.
Also, unrelated to support, over the years this Roku has gotten more and more laggy and slow, often doesn't respond to the controller for a few clicks, etc.
NVidia shield TV is the way to go. NVidia somehow manage to deliver enterprise grade support to consumers including things like RMA forward replacements.
Answer me this, should we as Americas been tolerant of the South's racially based segregationist laws?
If you answer "no" then you've just made my core point, the rest is just debating details and scope. If "yes" then you are in favor of allowing people to oppress others along racial lines which certainly isnt tolerance either and you are thus a hypocrite.
The post I was responding to was arguing about religious freedom rather than governmental freedom. They referred to Christians and Muslims as if these groups should not be tolerated because of their beliefs about gender.
I get the impression that many SJW types in the USA would, indeed, ban beliefs that they found intolerable.
The problem with being tolerant of discrimination is that you are then in favor of limiting the opportunities of said class being discriminated against. Being tolerant of discrimination would have meant letting segregation and all of its negative effects on black people stay in place in America. After all, these policies were all properly voted in at the state level.
I would certainly agree that tribalism is inherent to humanity and something we all engage in even if it is sometimes unconscious. On the other hand I regard it as the primitive "devil" in all of us and is the cause of most of our world's woes.
The problem with being intolerant of things people believe in is that it starts to become acceptable to veto peoples beliefs and force people to believe only what they are allowed to believe in.
This starts to become very much like a theocracy, even if its not religious. Its going to get extremely oppressive.
The problem here is including religion on the list of protected classes.
Hardcore Christians and Muslims do discriminate on the grounds of sexuality and gender. Their religion should not afford them any protection.
But that would be discriminating on the grounds of religion.
Can't people just be tolerant of discrimination? You discriminate, they discriminate, we all discriminate. You can't say one form of discrimination is wrong and yours is right. Well, you can but it would just reveal how small minded you are.
bacteria/prokaryotes are NOT animals by any stretch just as plants are not animals!
I was being sarcastic.
The b12 producing bacteria being grown in a nutrient medium derived from animal byproducts stands. Vegans couldn't exist without abattoirs. Its completely fake.
Vegans couldn't exist without a 1st world globalised industrial infrastructure. Try being vegan in a 3rd world country without being super rich. Its purely a phenomenon of the modern industrial first world.
Well, guess I should be more specific, most mobile users don't care *that* much about being able to do sophisticated things with it, or fret much about how much data is the same/different on their handheld versus their desktop.
The difference between, eg iphone users and android users is that for the iphone users there already is a crossover to the desktop and quite a lot of encouragement for people with iphones to use macs for their desktop/laptop. For android users not so much, they are pretty agnostic with respect to their desktop environment and neither the desktop environments nor the mobile OS really pushes them one way or another.
Ie: Once you start using Apple devices you get hooked into an ecosystem and mindset. Its not quite that strong for android devices.
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They come with a game controller, which is a bit bulky for use as a remote control. However, it is controllable with the android tv app on a phone.
The $180 one only comes with a remote, no game controller. But there are so few games for the controller it's probably not a big deal. Main advantage is the battery life when using headphones is better on the gamepad than on the remote.
Ok that's funny, because until now it was the other way around and the slimline remote was an extra!
All Shield TVs used to come with a controller. What they're doing now is dropping the $60 controller but only giving you a $20 break on the price. Not worth it.
As a Shield TV owner I'm really happy with the quality and performance of the hardware. The problem is the damn this is crippled by only running Android TV so can only get Android TV apps without much fiddling, and generally speaking there's not a lot of software available for it.
They come with a game controller, which is a bit bulky for use as a remote control. However, it is controllable with the android tv app on a phone.
Show me where Roku can run Kodi.
or PLEX server.
Also, if you live outside the USA, Roku support is total shit.
Also, supporting 4K is not the same thing as having the authorization to deliver it. Shit tons of PCs have a fully 4k-compliant delivery chain but unless you're running Edge on Windows 10, Netflix is only going to be 720p no matter what you do. Likewise, some Android client devices have special authorization to deliver 4k while others don't.
IMO, the Shield TV is a decent product that's priced a bit too high. You can stream some games to it and it can kinda-sorta act as a Plex Server with limited transcoding support, but even as someone who has a 4k HDR TV, I recognize that the use case for those things above and beyond the feature set of a FireTV or Roku box are pretty limited.
I haven't noticed any limitations on its PLEX server. And Nvidias support is extremely good.
For $200 I could just build a regular PC or buy a pretty sweet used machine. I don't get it.
I doubt that would be as silent and as UHD capable as the Shield TV box. I'll agree it's not for everyone, but the Shield TV box is the best purchase I've done in years.
As a set top box the shield can't be beaten for quality. Add to that Nvidia's enterprise-grade support for their customers (I've had extremely good support from them including a forward RMA replacement for a controller).
Building your own computer might be cheaper but it's not a superior option when you just want to stream content or use PLEX server (which is built into the shield tv).
That you're defending pepe as a meme of the alt-right when it's basically a mockery of them that they picked up as a result of refusing to admit they just don't get it says enough about you, but the idea that you can put a price on a rare Pepe should disqualify you from being your own legal guardian.
You never went to 4chan.
Also *whoosh*, that was the sound of irony flying over your head at great speed.
Things were headed in that direction, already. I've sure seen a lot less Pepes recently then I used to. Now that the lawsuit is getting fired up, I bet I'll be seeing a lot more of them again. Maybe that was the point. There's no such thing as bad publicity.
This will only serve to make the rare Pepes more valuable.
In North America (USA and Canada really) they live on debt. They couldn't live like you describe, its completely against their culture. In fact, it would probably destroy their economy if they didn't lend people more than they could pay back.
Yeah but on articles about anything related to the Sacred Tesla, anything remotely unpositive about Tesla gets modded troll very fast. So if you want to see anything thats not completely besotted with the marvelous and godly Tesla you have to lower your threshold a bit.
There, FTFY. You could also usually substitute Google for the same result.
No way, Apple has WAY more religious devotees.
Why is the term "allegedly" used in the title? Either he was arrested or he was not.
The detail you are missing is that "being arrested" is entirely separate from "being guilty of a crime"
unless you are in the USA and applying for a job.
"Comment Threshold +2"
Yeah but on articles about anything related to the Sacred Apple, anything remotely unpositive about Apple gets modded troll very fast. So if you want to see anything thats not completely besotted with the marvelous and godly Apple you have to lower your threshold a bit.
The police don't care that someone is standing in a field. Was he doing something that was illegal? Was he trespassing on private property and the owners didn't want him there, perhaps?
This is the UK. The police don't like photographs at all. Its like they are afraid they'll steal their souls or something. I've seen all kinds of examples of cops interfering with photography for no reason whatsoever. People get harassed by the cops for taking photos while standing on their own property and cops just happen to walk by at the time.
Given the fact that tractors typically put in 450-600 miles in a day... Yeah yeah, stop and charge, but given it takes a few hours to charge a car, and this will supposedly have a MUCH bigger battery pack, I guess truckers can now get 300 miles before they have to stop for 5-6 hours to recharge, meaning drive for 7 hours, charge for 6, drive for 7, charge for 6, etc. Not too conducive to rest!
Assuming it uses an all electric drive train and transmission, maintenance costs will fall through the floor. No more engine oil. No more gearbox. No more differential. etc.
All-electric cars are just solid state devices with, more or less, 4 moving parts -- the wheels. That de-complicates the entire device.
Wait... Roku has support? Why?
You plug it in... it just works. It's like a light bulb -you shouldn't need "support" for it.
I had a Roku controller stop working. Roku won't send replacement controllers outside the USA. Getting replacement controllers from 3rd parties is a LOT more expensive than directly from Roku.
Also, unrelated to support, over the years this Roku has gotten more and more laggy and slow, often doesn't respond to the controller for a few clicks, etc.
Roku support is utterly terrible.
NVidia shield TV is the way to go. NVidia somehow manage to deliver enterprise grade support to consumers including things like RMA forward replacements.
Surely theres also the culture of 'Murcanism ie "We're 'Murcans, everone haz 2 get the fuck outta our way cos we're 'MURCANS!"
You're arguing a slipperly slope. Nice.
Answer me this, should we as Americas been tolerant of the South's racially based segregationist laws?
If you answer "no" then you've just made my core point, the rest is just debating details and scope. If "yes" then you are in favor of allowing people to oppress others along racial lines which certainly isnt tolerance either and you are thus a hypocrite.
The post I was responding to was arguing about religious freedom rather than governmental freedom. They referred to Christians and Muslims as if these groups should not be tolerated because of their beliefs about gender.
I get the impression that many SJW types in the USA would, indeed, ban beliefs that they found intolerable.
The problem with being tolerant of discrimination is that you are then in favor of limiting the opportunities of said class being discriminated against. Being tolerant of discrimination would have meant letting segregation and all of its negative effects on black people stay in place in America. After all, these policies were all properly voted in at the state level.
I would certainly agree that tribalism is inherent to humanity and something we all engage in even if it is sometimes unconscious. On the other hand I regard it as the primitive "devil" in all of us and is the cause of most of our world's woes.
The problem with being intolerant of things people believe in is that it starts to become acceptable to veto peoples beliefs and force people to believe only what they are allowed to believe in.
This starts to become very much like a theocracy, even if its not religious. Its going to get extremely oppressive.
No. I'm not even sure why you would ask me that. Do you believe it?
I think thats where your society is headed.
But that would be discriminating on the grounds of religion.
Can't people just be tolerant of discrimination?
You say I discriminate on the grounds of religion, and then ask why I don't tolerate discrimination.
I'm not even going to bother.
Do you think that people should only be allowed to believe things that have been approved, perhaps by some kind of committee or panel?
The problem here is including religion on the list of protected classes.
Hardcore Christians and Muslims do discriminate on the grounds of sexuality and gender. Their religion should not afford them any protection.
But that would be discriminating on the grounds of religion.
Can't people just be tolerant of discrimination? You discriminate, they discriminate, we all discriminate. You can't say one form of discrimination is wrong and yours is right. Well, you can but it would just reveal how small minded you are.
Is this really the type of posters you want to attract Slashdot? This site is going to hell in a handbasket!!
Are you saying that SJWers are not bullies and have not committed hate crimes?
bacteria/prokaryotes are NOT animals by any stretch just as plants are not animals!
I was being sarcastic.
The b12 producing bacteria being grown in a nutrient medium derived from animal byproducts stands. Vegans couldn't exist without abattoirs. Its completely fake.
Vegans couldn't exist without a 1st world globalised industrial infrastructure. Try being vegan in a 3rd world country without being super rich. Its purely a phenomenon of the modern industrial first world.
Well, guess I should be more specific, most mobile users don't care *that* much about being able to do sophisticated things with it, or fret much about how much data is the same/different on their handheld versus their desktop.
The difference between, eg iphone users and android users is that for the iphone users there already is a crossover to the desktop and quite a lot of encouragement for people with iphones to use macs for their desktop/laptop. For android users not so much, they are pretty agnostic with respect to their desktop environment and neither the desktop environments nor the mobile OS really pushes them one way or another.
Ie: Once you start using Apple devices you get hooked into an ecosystem and mindset. Its not quite that strong for android devices.
My opinion, people don't care *that* much about their mobile platform
You don't know many Apple users do you