So, lets assume that this lab-meat takes off and in short order we grow all the beef, lamb, pork, & chicken in a factory...
What do we do with all the cows, sheep, pigs, and chickens that we no longer have a need for?
Do they become endangered or extinct?
The vegans would release all those cows, sheep, pigs and chickens to live free in (whats left of) the wilderness.
Yeah, they haven't really thought that through. I predict that if this ever happens there'll be a population explosion of bears, wolves, coyotes and mountain lions.
One day, meat eaters and vegans might even share their hypothetical burger.
I don't know about those pesky vegans, but as a vegetarian, my main reason these days to not eat a beef hamburger is that those minced meat patties taste horrible.
But hey, some like it and its eco-friendly, so all the best to this industry.
You don't eat meat because you don't like burger patties?
That makes no sense at all. I might as well not eat vegetables at all because I don't like broccoli.
The b12 in vitamin supplements comes from bacteria, which are arguably animals. Also, those bacteria are grown in a culture medium. Made from animal byproducts.
Vegans really shouldn't take those supplements and just let themselves die of b12 deficiency.
Also they should probably eat their own poop, like gorillas do, to maximize the nutritional value they extract from their food.
Oh and gorillas? Vegan diet? Well actually they don't remove all the insects from the plants they eat, which gives them a really good vitamin and protein supplement.
I have to question your reasons for being vegan, are you simply fussy and don't like meat? Nothing wrong with that but I can't see any other reasonable objection to lab grown meat assuming it really is the same nutritionally as the meat we currently get. It's a given that vegans find it very hard to get many of the essential fats, minerals and vitamins that meat eaters get from meat so nutritionally I can't see a reason to not eat it.
The thing with vegans is that they don't want other people to eat meat. Its not just a dietary discipline; its a political movement full of control freaks who want to tell everyone else what to eat.
Regulations are created due to things like the thalidomide incident and the fact that the regulatory bodies create new rules to make sure that if the rules are followed, such incidents can never happen. And the reason that we follow those rules to the letter is that if we don't, the cost can easily run into hundreds of millions or even billions.
In the case of expiration dates, we have to prove that drug or device X, stored in Y conditions, still has effect Z all the way up to the expiration date. And we need to have the clinical trials and evidence to back this up. We cannot guarantee 10 years for example, because it would mean doing those trials and tests BEFORE releasing the product.
You are right, often it doesn't hurt. But there are enough cases where the potency or the health effects alter over time. So we CANNOT sell or distribute anything over date. If we do, we're back to the huge fines and lawsuits issue.
Name a regulation that was created due to deaths or damages resulting from expired pharmaceuticals.
Determining the correct expiration date involves lots of sciency stuff that we would not understand, but suffice it to say it is all very precise and involves a lot of math. Once they have that "expiration value" then they round it down to 1,2 or 3 years, depending on what management deems to be maximizing their shareholder's value.
I bet the expiration date involves a lot more minimaxing of profits than it does sciency stuff.
You don't want others to know your passwords, you shouldn't tell people your passwords. (well most classes of passwords I work with).
A simple trick I've used over the years is to make passwords something I would definitely never want anyone to see me type in, something offensive, rude or even (apparently) incriminating ("Yes, it was me who killed your dog" or "I fuck ponies").
This also helps me remember them.
God forbid I run into a situation where my passwords are shown in plain text where others can read them *shudder*
I've actually implemented this on a MITM proxy server with its trusted root certificate being installed via group policy so I could manipulate images on the fly and deliver things like downgraded image quality based on AD group membership. And its all HTTPS and the certificate checks out (on face value to the plebs, at least it doesn't give a warning in the browser) so thats how the images must be supposed to look, right?
If the workstation wasn't in the domain then they'd get yet another different version of the Internet but of course the certificate doesn't check out because the group policy hasn't forced their workstation to trust it.
My employer asked me to do it. And this wasn't in China. If it were China then their computer would trust the certificate and I could do even more fiendish things with their images, on the fly.
Not bad from what I've seen. Most same day shipments I've done in the Seattle area took almost two weeks.
This is Seattle, so to be fair their Internet is probably dialup and it took 2 weeks for them to catch up with the backlog of orders they get via their online system.
It's a struggle to sift out Prime content from rental content from digital purchase content.
The entire time you're trying to find something, you have to be vigilant to ensure that the things you are looking at are in fact included with Prime. Just browsing to find something interesting isn't an option, like with cable TV.
Amazon Prime told me that its top movies were Waterworld and Salt. Its as if they have no clue at all.
Possibly thought that anybody in infosec sending them this stuff would have already thought of that and cleaned or otherwise created a false trail. Still, i wonder if there is something they could get stuck with by destroying the originals that they get after transcribing them.
Maybe this was a false trail and the real informant is still at large...
It is common to the point of being nearly universal in retail that hourly employees who work on the sales floor are called "associates." This is normal for any day that ends in "y."
So its just another word for employee? Where I come from an associate is more of an equal partner. Like a law firm might be "Smith and associates" where theres someone called Smith and a few other people, Smiths associates, who are more or less partners in the firm.
I wouldn't mind a really good remake of a classic movie. (Forbidden Planet anyone?) Or a good prequel.
Don't give them ideas... That was an awesome movie.
If theres one impression I get out of modern Hollywood movies; its that they are specifically forbidden from making good movies, especially good remakes. Its as if there is some unwritten Hollywood law "Thou shalt not make good movies."
Look around for rainbow haired gender fluid twits, that's today's Democrats. Congenital idiots are likely offended at being lumped in with them.
The LBGTQI crowd earnestly believe that they can bully enough people into liking them that they can get a majority support for one of their own as a presidential candidate.
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So, lets assume that this lab-meat takes off and in short order we grow all the beef, lamb, pork, & chicken in a factory...
What do we do with all the cows, sheep, pigs, and chickens that we no longer have a need for?
Do they become endangered or extinct?
The vegans would release all those cows, sheep, pigs and chickens to live free in (whats left of) the wilderness.
Yeah, they haven't really thought that through. I predict that if this ever happens there'll be a population explosion of bears, wolves, coyotes and mountain lions.
One day, meat eaters and vegans might even share their hypothetical burger.
I don't know about those pesky vegans, but as a vegetarian, my main reason these days to not eat a beef hamburger is that those minced meat patties taste horrible.
But hey, some like it and its eco-friendly, so all the best to this industry.
You don't eat meat because you don't like burger patties?
That makes no sense at all. I might as well not eat vegetables at all because I don't like broccoli.
But meat is definitely NOT natural
if meat isn't natural then it doesn't come from animals so surely its ok to eat it?
The b12 in vitamin supplements comes from bacteria, which are arguably animals.
Also, those bacteria are grown in a culture medium. Made from animal byproducts.
Vegans really shouldn't take those supplements and just let themselves die of b12 deficiency.
Also they should probably eat their own poop, like gorillas do, to maximize the nutritional value they extract from their food.
Oh and gorillas? Vegan diet? Well actually they don't remove all the insects from the plants they eat, which gives them a really good vitamin and protein supplement.
I have to question your reasons for being vegan, are you simply fussy and don't like meat? Nothing wrong with that but I can't see any other reasonable objection to lab grown meat assuming it really is the same nutritionally as the meat we currently get. It's a given that vegans find it very hard to get many of the essential fats, minerals and vitamins that meat eaters get from meat so nutritionally I can't see a reason to not eat it.
The thing with vegans is that they don't want other people to eat meat. Its not just a dietary discipline; its a political movement full of control freaks who want to tell everyone else what to eat.
Maximizing profits is sciency stuff. The branch of science is called economics.
Like meteorology, there might be some science involved...
Regulations are created due to things like the thalidomide incident and the fact that the regulatory bodies create new rules to make sure that if the rules are followed, such incidents can never happen. And the reason that we follow those rules to the letter is that if we don't, the cost can easily run into hundreds of millions or even billions.
In the case of expiration dates, we have to prove that drug or device X, stored in Y conditions, still has effect Z all the way up to the expiration date. And we need to have the clinical trials and evidence to back this up. We cannot guarantee 10 years for example, because it would mean doing those trials and tests BEFORE releasing the product.
You are right, often it doesn't hurt. But there are enough cases where the potency or the health effects alter over time. So we CANNOT sell or distribute anything over date. If we do, we're back to the huge fines and lawsuits issue.
Name a regulation that was created due to deaths or damages resulting from expired pharmaceuticals.
You sound anti-profit. Sir, are you anti-profit, yes or no?
No one is anti-profit, they are just anti other people profiting at the expense of their own profit...
Determining the correct expiration date involves lots of sciency stuff that we would not understand, but suffice it to say it is all very precise and involves a lot of math. Once they have that "expiration value" then they round it down to 1,2 or 3 years, depending on what management deems to be maximizing their shareholder's value.
I bet the expiration date involves a lot more minimaxing of profits than it does sciency stuff.
Thats a principle I've worked with for years.
You don't want others to know your passwords, you shouldn't tell people your passwords. (well most classes of passwords I work with).
A simple trick I've used over the years is to make passwords something I would definitely never want anyone to see me type in, something offensive, rude or even (apparently) incriminating ("Yes, it was me who killed your dog" or "I fuck ponies").
This also helps me remember them.
God forbid I run into a situation where my passwords are shown in plain text where others can read them *shudder*
it can't be that much harder than the upside-down-ternet:
http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/...
when you have sufficient processing power.
I've actually implemented this on a MITM proxy server with its trusted root certificate being installed via group policy so I could manipulate images on the fly and deliver things like downgraded image quality based on AD group membership. And its all HTTPS and the certificate checks out (on face value to the plebs, at least it doesn't give a warning in the browser) so thats how the images must be supposed to look, right?
If the workstation wasn't in the domain then they'd get yet another different version of the Internet but of course the certificate doesn't check out because the group policy hasn't forced their workstation to trust it.
My employer asked me to do it. And this wasn't in China. If it were China then their computer would trust the certificate and I could do even more fiendish things with their images, on the fly.
Not bad from what I've seen. Most same day shipments I've done in the Seattle area took almost two weeks.
This is Seattle, so to be fair their Internet is probably dialup and it took 2 weeks for them to catch up with the backlog of orders they get via their online system.
It's a struggle to sift out Prime content from rental content from digital purchase content.
Have you tried the "Included with Prime" section of Amazon Video?
I haven't look at Amazon Video for months, but I'm going to guess that the "Included with Prime" section is still abysmal.
I don't know. If you call Waterworld and Salt abysmal then I guess so...
Also worth noting that their UI is atrocious.
I dare you to try to find something to watch.
It's a struggle to sift out Prime content from rental content from digital purchase content.
The entire time you're trying to find something, you have to be vigilant to ensure that the things you are looking at are in fact included with Prime. Just browsing to find something interesting isn't an option, like with cable TV.
Amazon Prime told me that its top movies were Waterworld and Salt. Its as if they have no clue at all.
Drug addicts say this all the time, so it must be true.
Drug addicts can change which dealer they get the drugs from if they feel like they are being ripped off.
There are SO many options for chat and messaging, facebook is just one. And the others don't tend to do ads like this.
Systemd, is a poor idea
Which is why all the technical leads of various distributions couldn't wait to adopt it...
Not quite. It was more a case of "Do we want to include Gnome in our distribution or not?"
You people are retarded.
Thats hate speech on two levels! Hate speech against me and hate speech against differently abled people!
Complaining shaming is sad.
Complaining is hate speech.
Labeling something hate speech without first enumerating your privileges is violence.
Any communication might cause offense. Therefore all forms of communication must be banned.
Complaining shaming is sad.
Complaining is hate speech.
Possibly thought that anybody in infosec sending them this stuff would have already thought of that and cleaned or otherwise created a false trail. Still, i wonder if there is something they could get stuck with by destroying the originals that they get after transcribing them.
Maybe this was a false trail and the real informant is still at large...
It is common to the point of being nearly universal in retail that hourly employees who work on the sales floor are called "associates." This is normal for any day that ends in "y."
So its just another word for employee? Where I come from an associate is more of an equal partner. Like a law firm might be "Smith and associates" where theres someone called Smith and a few other people, Smiths associates, who are more or less partners in the firm.
There seems to be an inconsistency, on the one hand they are employees and on the other they are associates. Which is it really?
I'm really thinking since 2000 roughly, its hard to tell exactly when this law came into effect.
I wouldn't mind a really good remake of a classic movie. (Forbidden Planet anyone?) Or a good prequel.
Don't give them ideas... That was an awesome movie.
If theres one impression I get out of modern Hollywood movies; its that they are specifically forbidden from making good movies, especially good remakes. Its as if there is some unwritten Hollywood law "Thou shalt not make good movies."
If ?
Look around for rainbow haired gender fluid twits, that's today's Democrats. Congenital idiots are likely offended at being lumped in with them.
The LBGTQI crowd earnestly believe that they can bully enough people into liking them that they can get a majority support for one of their own as a presidential candidate.