> Re apps: anything that involves substantial text entry requires a keyboard.
I believe we were talking about Photoshop. Content manipulation does not require a lot of text entry. It was *made* for touch. A lot of the gestures you do in Photoshop with the mouse are aping physical motions. It's entirely appropriate for photo manipulation, page layout, anything content related not directly involving pounding out code, to be gesture based.
Sure, there's a lot of examples of stuff that needs a keyboard. Yet, I can open a Word or Excel document on my Android phone, make minor edits, and forward the document just fine. For data entry, I'd still want to sit down at a workstation. I don't think any of us are talking about the whole world suddenly converting to touch-only. Your keyboard is safe. What we're talking about (I believe) is applications for which touch would be appropriate, to become touch enabled in some reasonable fashion.
Windows 8 is a bad example. In years to come, Win8 will be held up as the way *not* to design a GUI. There should be college classes on GUI design that uses Win8 as an example of what not to do.
Personally, I'm through with Windows. The moment Adobe ports Lightroom to Android, I'll ditch the Winders laptop and never look back.
...what kind of recurring maintenance all those systems need, and if they have reasonable failure modes. Or, does the car just, like, explode like a meteorite when the handling controls fail.
> If you give every problem a complexity value from 1 to 10, and your problems never get higher than a 6 or 7, do you need people capable of solving the 10s?
I think "rockstar" is overused, but never mind.
It's important, I think, to have a few rockstars around if your environment is even moderately complex. It takes someone with serious skills, experience and insight to foresee what would otherwise have been "unforeseen consequences". Odd interactions with other apps, race conditions, initial condition issues, migration issues, maintainability issues, in "5 or 6" level apps may not be readily seen by a 5 or 6 level programmers.
It's probably true that not every programmer needs to be a rockstar. There's room for mediocre programmers just like in most other fields.
The point is that tablets can come out with full Windows 8, which would be a game changer.
I sure as hell do not want a tablet, a notebook, a desktop, anything running Windows 8.
Agreed. Besides, running legacy apps (which is the only reason to put up with Windows 8) requires a keyboard and mouse, so why buy a tablet at all? I suspect the "game changer" they're looking for is people thinking "this tablet thing is a fad. Let's go back to laptops running Windows."
So I find these sorts of comments interesting. You use your N7 for "checking" your email. Do you use it for REPLYING to email? I find it amazingly annoying to write anything longer than a tweet on a touchscreen, regardless of the input method. The instant you add a keyboard to a tablet, it isn't a tablet, it's an incredibly non-ergonomic mini-laptop with pieces that fall apart.
I have the email client set up on my tablet (currently a Memopad HD7, comparable to N7) and I *READ* email on it but I practically never REPLY to email on it. I save the replies for when I've got a keyboard.
Consume on tablet. Produce on laptop.
I disagree. I do the majority of my communication, both sending and receiving, on my Android phone. Typing really isn't an issue with a little practice. Using one of the mobile Office apps allows me to open attachments and even make minor changes. The huge advantage is that I don't have to be at my desk to work, and I don't have to carry a laptop around. I do agree, a tablet that requires a keyboard and pointing device is not a tablet.
I haven't picked up a tablet simply because I'm waiting (in vain, it looks like) for Adobe to stop sitting on their hands and port their apps to touch in some reasonable fashion. (Photoshop for Android is a toy.) My daughter got one 'a' those convertables running Windows 8, got frustrated and quit using it. Went back to her Samsung Note.
Not when you dock it. Add an external keyboard, mouse, and monitor to any tablet with Bluetooth and HDMI out, and you can carry one device that shifts between desktop mode when you're at a desk and tablet mode when away from one.
haswell makes full windows with 100% backwards compatibility in a tablet device a desirable thing. Everything from photoshop to your VB app written a decade ago that you no longer have the developers or source code or funding to rewrite is now viable on a windows tablet device.
I don't think anyone is going to use a tablet for Microsoft Office. A tablet screen is way too small for Photoshop or a CAD program, and nobody's going to waste a $1000 license (Photoshop) on a tablet. The only thing a tablet is good for is media consumption, and what programs does Microsoft have for that that isn't already out there, usually for free and superior to Microsoft's?
Well, the reason tablets are currently only good for media consumption is that major applications have not yet transitioned to touch paradigms. And as long as the mindset is "for serious applications you need a KVM" that's never going to change. That tablet screens are too small is a mere technical issue, easily solved. Making Photoshop work reasonably well in a touch-only environment is a much bigger problem, and Adobe isn't going to put the engineering into that without a good reason. If "tablets" are defined as blazing hot Intel boxes running Windows with an "optional" keyboard and pointing device that aren't realistically optional, Adobe doesn't need to make the transition to touch.
The tablets generally have a touchpad built into the cover and there are always bluetooth options available.
By which time you're carrying so much bulk that the only advantage of a tablet over a netbook is that tablets aren't discontinued.
Yes. This is the same strategy Microsoft used with Netbooks. People were realizing that they do most of their stuff on the net, so a cheap netbook that only did web and mail and had a long battery life was a useful thing. Microsoft stepped in, strongarmed XP on netbooks, which meant they had to have more resources, higher cost and shorter battery life, the reverse of all the things that made them interesting in the first place. And netbooks died out.
Now, we're having the same experience with tablets. Microsoft/Intel wants tablets to be x86 devices running Windows, which requires a keyboard and a mouse to run current apps, which eliminates the factors that made tablets interesting in the first place. Major app developers don't have any reason to make the leap to a touch-only interface, because realistically, none of the machines running their apps are touch-only. And so, we remain stuck in the Windows KVM paradigm. It's maddening.
No with haswell we are talking about X86 windows. RT is destined for the bin. haswell makes full windows with 100% backwards compatibility in a tablet device a desirable thing. Everything from photoshop to your VB app written a decade ago that you no longer have the developers or source code or funding to rewrite is now viable on a windows tablet device.
Wait wait wait. There are two problems here.
1) Windows is pants on a tablet. 7 is bad, 8 is actually worse.
2) Photoshop likewise.
So what we *really* mean here, if we're running Photoshop and other Windows legacy apps, is a "tablet" with a keyboard and a mouse, IE, a laptop with a touch screen. The touch function of which will only ever be used for the most trivial stuff. Which makes it not really a tablet.
What we *really* want is an OS designed to work, not *also* on a touchscreen, but *entirely* on a touch screen, running applications *designed* to be manipulated by touch. This convertable crap is just holding back technology. And trying to increase battery life on an Intel based tablet running Winders is Missing The Point. It's just avoiding the bigger problem -- Microsoft doesn't have a touch based OS that's worth a crap, and major app creators like Adobe aren't feeling the need to convert to a touch paradigm, because of the expectation that everyone will just run Windows, which means they'll inevitably have a keyboard and a mouse if they want to not go insane.
Agreed, people only hated Total Recall because it ruined the purity of the original. And we'll see the same when Robocop comes out too.
That said on it's own, I enjoyed Total Recall remake quite a bit. By no means a perfect movie, it could have been a lot worse.
Did they keep the dumb part where Arnold is on an atmospheric-less Mars with his eyes bugging out and he somehow survives long enough for the atmosphere to be fully created by the magic martian machine?
. Um, no. They didn't have that part. The remake was silly in different ways.
Um, we were talking about the British, but if you want to bring "the colonies" into it, there's lots of places that don't need no stinkin' air conditioning. There's more to the US than LA and New York.
/. used to be a place to read actual articles. Now, it's just infested with a bunch of whiny fandroids and iHaters.
You hypocrites would love if ANY Android phone had this kind of popularity and brand loyalty. You'd love people lining up for days on end for the excitement. But hey, because it's Apple, it's just hate for the sole reason of hating and result to childish name-calling and insults because that's all you can come up with. Sad behavior.
Let me guess -- you're posting this from your 5 while camped outside waiting for the store to open.
I can't speak for the rest of the "fandroids", but to me, waiting outside in the rain (which I've seen with my own eyes for the 4s release -- and skipped getting coffee in that strip mall when the 5 came out) to buy a consumer device at retail makes absolutely no sense to me, and I would be a little alarmed if it happened with a phone I was considering. Perhaps enough to reconsider the wisdom of my choice.
Apple will release a new version of their phone, and another one about a year after that and will keep doing so for as long as there is money to be made doing so. This is no different from any other manufacturer releasing new versions of their products - it's what they do. Why people ever act surprised when there's a new shiny version of 'X' has got to be one of life's great mysteries.
Next years surprise, Ford releases the 2015 model of the Focus! Shocking! Who could ever see that coming? What do you mean the entire industry does this every single year?
I think the difference is, previous Focus owners don't camp on the sidewalk all night waiting for the Ford dealership to open so they can pay retail for the next model.
Apple did not split the new season in 2 parts but they ARE the ones that sold it as a "season pass" and didn't say anywhere that the "season pass" is not good for the entire season.
To me its a fairly simple case of misleading advertizing.
You got it. If they didn't mean "Season Pass" they should have used a different word.
There are couple of problems with your quip. First, it seems this chap isn't going after money. The article suggests he is seeking only a refund... for all he deems swindled by this.
^^ This is insightful?
Are we supposed to believe that this guy is undertaking the effort and expense of litigation all in the name of recovering his $22.99?
NO!
There is an army of lawyers here, FUNDING and waiting upon the outcome of this case before launching similar class-actions that will net them millions of dollars and all the "swindled" customers a free season something.
Good god man. Wake up. Read between the lines.
Shrug. Sometimes it's a matter of principle. As the OP said, he's apparently seeking a refund for a product he purchased and didn't receive. Going after the retailer for this is entirely reasonable. If the retailer was unknowingly selling half-full boxes of product, it's then the retailer's job to sue the manufacturer. In the IT industry it's called "one throat to choke". When you deal with a distributor, the distributor is ultimately responsible to the customer for the product matching the description. In this case "season pass" for half a season is clearly receiving a half-full box.
They didn't make the Breaking Bad series, they're not the ones who decided to split up the season in two. What's next, suing Apple because the new pop music album is crap?
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> Re apps: anything that involves substantial text entry requires a keyboard.
I believe we were talking about Photoshop. Content manipulation does not require a lot of text entry. It was *made* for touch. A lot of the gestures you do in Photoshop with the mouse are aping physical motions. It's entirely appropriate for photo manipulation, page layout, anything content related not directly involving pounding out code, to be gesture based.
Sure, there's a lot of examples of stuff that needs a keyboard. Yet, I can open a Word or Excel document on my Android phone, make minor edits, and forward the document just fine. For data entry, I'd still want to sit down at a workstation. I don't think any of us are talking about the whole world suddenly converting to touch-only. Your keyboard is safe. What we're talking about (I believe) is applications for which touch would be appropriate, to become touch enabled in some reasonable fashion.
Windows 8 is a bad example. In years to come, Win8 will be held up as the way *not* to design a GUI. There should be college classes on GUI design that uses Win8 as an example of what not to do.
Personally, I'm through with Windows. The moment Adobe ports Lightroom to Android, I'll ditch the Winders laptop and never look back.
Um did you you miss the 'Ferrari' part? You might as well buy the nearest repair shop, that way you'll cut your losses.
So, it's the exploding one, then. Ok.
Only a week?
Oooooh. Aaaaaah. Sorry about Bill...
> If you give every problem a complexity value from 1 to 10, and your problems never get higher than a 6 or 7, do you need people capable of solving the 10s?
I think "rockstar" is overused, but never mind.
It's important, I think, to have a few rockstars around if your environment is even moderately complex. It takes someone with serious skills, experience and insight to foresee what would otherwise have been "unforeseen consequences". Odd interactions with other apps, race conditions, initial condition issues, migration issues, maintainability issues, in "5 or 6" level apps may not be readily seen by a 5 or 6 level programmers.
It's probably true that not every programmer needs to be a rockstar. There's room for mediocre programmers just like in most other fields.
Why would a manufacturer buy an OS nobody seems to want instead of using Android? What's MS's advantage here?
The advantage of Windows and Windows RT over the Android ecosystem is availability of Microsoft Office.
The point is that tablets can come out with full Windows 8, which would be a game changer.
I sure as hell do not want a tablet, a notebook, a desktop, anything running Windows 8.
Agreed. Besides, running legacy apps (which is the only reason to put up with Windows 8) requires a keyboard and mouse, so why buy a tablet at all? I suspect the "game changer" they're looking for is people thinking "this tablet thing is a fad. Let's go back to laptops running Windows."
So I find these sorts of comments interesting. You use your N7 for "checking" your email. Do you use it for REPLYING to email? I find it amazingly annoying to write anything longer than a tweet on a touchscreen, regardless of the input method. The instant you add a keyboard to a tablet, it isn't a tablet, it's an incredibly non-ergonomic mini-laptop with pieces that fall apart.
I have the email client set up on my tablet (currently a Memopad HD7, comparable to N7) and I *READ* email on it but I practically never REPLY to email on it. I save the replies for when I've got a keyboard.
Consume on tablet. Produce on laptop.
I disagree. I do the majority of my communication, both sending and receiving, on my Android phone. Typing really isn't an issue with a little practice. Using one of the mobile Office apps allows me to open attachments and even make minor changes. The huge advantage is that I don't have to be at my desk to work, and I don't have to carry a laptop around. I do agree, a tablet that requires a keyboard and pointing device is not a tablet.
I haven't picked up a tablet simply because I'm waiting (in vain, it looks like) for Adobe to stop sitting on their hands and port their apps to touch in some reasonable fashion. (Photoshop for Android is a toy.) My daughter got one 'a' those convertables running Windows 8, got frustrated and quit using it. Went back to her Samsung Note.
A tablet screen is way too small
Not when you dock it. Add an external keyboard, mouse, and monitor to any tablet with Bluetooth and HDMI out, and you can carry one device that shifts between desktop mode when you're at a desk and tablet mode when away from one.
But then it's no longer a tablet.
haswell makes full windows with 100% backwards compatibility in a tablet device a desirable thing. Everything from photoshop to your VB app written a decade ago that you no longer have the developers or source code or funding to rewrite is now viable on a windows tablet device.
I don't think anyone is going to use a tablet for Microsoft Office. A tablet screen is way too small for Photoshop or a CAD program, and nobody's going to waste a $1000 license (Photoshop) on a tablet. The only thing a tablet is good for is media consumption, and what programs does Microsoft have for that that isn't already out there, usually for free and superior to Microsoft's?
Well, the reason tablets are currently only good for media consumption is that major applications have not yet transitioned to touch paradigms. And as long as the mindset is "for serious applications you need a KVM" that's never going to change. That tablet screens are too small is a mere technical issue, easily solved. Making Photoshop work reasonably well in a touch-only environment is a much bigger problem, and Adobe isn't going to put the engineering into that without a good reason. If "tablets" are defined as blazing hot Intel boxes running Windows with an "optional" keyboard and pointing device that aren't realistically optional, Adobe doesn't need to make the transition to touch.
The tablets generally have a touchpad built into the cover and there are always bluetooth options available.
By which time you're carrying so much bulk that the only advantage of a tablet over a netbook is that tablets aren't discontinued.
Yes. This is the same strategy Microsoft used with Netbooks. People were realizing that they do most of their stuff on the net, so a cheap netbook that only did web and mail and had a long battery life was a useful thing. Microsoft stepped in, strongarmed XP on netbooks, which meant they had to have more resources, higher cost and shorter battery life, the reverse of all the things that made them interesting in the first place. And netbooks died out.
Now, we're having the same experience with tablets. Microsoft/Intel wants tablets to be x86 devices running Windows, which requires a keyboard and a mouse to run current apps, which eliminates the factors that made tablets interesting in the first place. Major app developers don't have any reason to make the leap to a touch-only interface, because realistically, none of the machines running their apps are touch-only. And so, we remain stuck in the Windows KVM paradigm. It's maddening.
No with haswell we are talking about X86 windows. RT is destined for the bin. haswell makes full windows with 100% backwards compatibility in a tablet device a desirable thing. Everything from photoshop to your VB app written a decade ago that you no longer have the developers or source code or funding to rewrite is now viable on a windows tablet device.
Wait wait wait. There are two problems here.
1) Windows is pants on a tablet. 7 is bad, 8 is actually worse.
2) Photoshop likewise.
So what we *really* mean here, if we're running Photoshop and other Windows legacy apps, is a "tablet" with a keyboard and a mouse, IE, a laptop with a touch screen. The touch function of which will only ever be used for the most trivial stuff. Which makes it not really a tablet.
What we *really* want is an OS designed to work, not *also* on a touchscreen, but *entirely* on a touch screen, running applications *designed* to be manipulated by touch. This convertable crap is just holding back technology. And trying to increase battery life on an Intel based tablet running Winders is Missing The Point. It's just avoiding the bigger problem -- Microsoft doesn't have a touch based OS that's worth a crap, and major app creators like Adobe aren't feeling the need to convert to a touch paradigm, because of the expectation that everyone will just run Windows, which means they'll inevitably have a keyboard and a mouse if they want to not go insane.
Agreed, people only hated Total Recall because it ruined the purity of the original. And we'll see the same when Robocop comes out too.
That said on it's own, I enjoyed Total Recall remake quite a bit. By no means a perfect movie, it could have been a lot worse.
Did they keep the dumb part where Arnold is on an atmospheric-less Mars with his eyes bugging out and he somehow survives long enough for the atmosphere to be fully created by the magic martian machine?
.
Um, no. They didn't have that part. The remake was silly in different ways.
Um, we were talking about the British, but if you want to bring "the colonies" into it, there's lots of places that don't need no stinkin' air conditioning. There's more to the US than LA and New York.
I'd watch that. Although I'd probably have to illegally download it.
(But seriously, it reads like a mid-season episode of Doctor Who. Or Torchwood, back when it was, you know, good.)
That'll get their attention.
/. used to be a place to read actual articles. Now, it's just infested with a bunch of whiny fandroids and iHaters.
You hypocrites would love if ANY Android phone had this kind of popularity and brand loyalty. You'd love people lining up for days on end for the excitement. But hey, because it's Apple, it's just hate for the sole reason of hating and result to childish name-calling and insults because that's all you can come up with. Sad behavior.
Let me guess -- you're posting this from your 5 while camped outside waiting for the store to open.
I can't speak for the rest of the "fandroids", but to me, waiting outside in the rain (which I've seen with my own eyes for the 4s release -- and skipped getting coffee in that strip mall when the 5 came out) to buy a consumer device at retail makes absolutely no sense to me, and I would be a little alarmed if it happened with a phone I was considering. Perhaps enough to reconsider the wisdom of my choice.
I think Apple's iphone color chart looks something like this (albeit with rounded corners and a faux-beveled overlay)
Expensive:
Clear, Metal, Black, White, Gold
Reserved for dirt poor plebs:
Every other color
I wonder if there will be knock-offs discovered to be 5C phones spray-painted white.
Apple will release a new version of their phone, and another one about a year after that and will keep doing so for as long as there is money to be made doing so. This is no different from any other manufacturer releasing new versions of their products - it's what they do. Why people ever act surprised when there's a new shiny version of 'X' has got to be one of life's great mysteries.
Next years surprise, Ford releases the 2015 model of the Focus! Shocking! Who could ever see that coming? What do you mean the entire industry does this every single year?
I think the difference is, previous Focus owners don't camp on the sidewalk all night waiting for the Ford dealership to open so they can pay retail for the next model.
At this point, the only reason to line up for an iDevice is to get on TV. This is not different to survivor or Big Brother.
High ticket price, though.
Apple did not split the new season in 2 parts but they ARE the ones that sold it as a "season pass" and didn't say anywhere that the "season pass" is not good for the entire season.
To me its a fairly simple case of misleading advertizing.
You got it. If they didn't mean "Season Pass" they should have used a different word.
There are couple of problems with your quip. First, it seems this chap isn't going after money. The article suggests he is seeking only a refund... for all he deems swindled by this.
^^ This is insightful?
Are we supposed to believe that this guy is undertaking the effort and expense of litigation all in the name of recovering his $22.99?
NO!
There is an army of lawyers here, FUNDING and waiting upon the outcome of this case before launching similar class-actions that will net them millions of dollars and all the "swindled" customers a free season something.
Good god man. Wake up. Read between the lines.
Shrug. Sometimes it's a matter of principle. As the OP said, he's apparently seeking a refund for a product he purchased and didn't receive. Going after the retailer for this is entirely reasonable. If the retailer was unknowingly selling half-full boxes of product, it's then the retailer's job to sue the manufacturer. In the IT industry it's called "one throat to choke". When you deal with a distributor, the distributor is ultimately responsible to the customer for the product matching the description. In this case "season pass" for half a season is clearly receiving a half-full box.
They didn't make the Breaking Bad series, they're not the ones who decided to split up the season in two. What's next, suing Apple because the new pop music album is crap?
Wow, they'd be out of business in a month.
but that digital recording and mixing often loses information to compression or inadequate sampling.
That's all on the producer and recording techniques, not the format itself.
That is true. This could be yet another case of "blaming the tool". Yet it's so of ten the case that digital recordings just don't measure up.
Hm. It's like the studios are afraid of studio-class digital recordings being released in the wild. Perhaps copying fears?