you can run anything you want on your hardware. the question was about os x versus linux, and i had an answer. you disagree. fine. i don't think someone buying a mini is going to be missing out on anything linux, especially considering that {fink|darinports} provides almost everything *nix. and darwin ports has a pretty good package management system. not great, but name one linux distro that does. and linux/x86 is a great combo and i didn't say buying a mini was wrong. but for most, many, whatever people, it's not going to be different. i have a linux box at home that a ssh -X into from work, primarily to get around the bess filter to read blogs. but other than a pure OSS system, i lack nothing on os x. i need for development java, perl, python, php, mysql, etc. and i use jedit and vim. i use gimp, but keep fireworks handy.
and when there's a linux version of iLife, than linux will have everything.
but i haven't read that apple is hiding the source, only radically forking it. forgive me for my ignorance, but if they use open source code, make whatever changes they want, then release them, what's the big deal. last time i read the gpl (and by the way, i wrote an AMP based intranet message board for my school, released under the gpl.) it didn't require anyone to explain their cahnges, only release the code. so what is the deal, you have to clean the hotel room too?
1) typo. supposed to be inextricably linked. makes better sense.
2) you obviously do not know the meaning of the word education.
3) cultural relativists are destroying our society. i don't suppose you'll get much empirical history at most universities, where determinism is the rule of the day. but the therapeutic, anti-western, relativist, pseudo-intellectaul fill-in-the-blank studies majors don't believe in anything other than rampant nihilism.
congrats. when the barbarians come knocking at your door, you try to logic with mustafa. tell him he needs anger management, that it's okay that he feels oppressed, that you feel his pain. but do it before he saws your head off in front of a camera. tell yourself that his clerical medievalism is "just his culture". of course do it before the blood drains from your body and you're a lifeless mass. and then in your last breath, wonder where the notion of civic militarism went, why the hopllite, the centurion, the mintueman, the GI, hasn't come to save your sorry ass. he was too busy being indoctrinated in sensitivty training to hate the enemy, to want to kill him.
what is linux going to offer over OS X since you get OS X with a Mini anyway?
nothing. other than to say "I run linux on my mac mini". a coolness factor. sure, there's things you can do on linux, but for $500, you can buy alot nicer white box PC, or even a dell. i love linux, but i need java, php, perl, python, basic unix dev tools, and and some X stuff like gimp, etc. all runs great under os x. i don't do linux kernel development. os x is truly an awesome OS. i have never used anything like it.
1) reading and writing are extricably linked. you can't do one without the other. well, at least you can't write well without reading well.
2) we differ on what a productive member of society is. schools are here to educate citizens in a demcocracy, not train factory workers.
3) Shakespeare, and most everything else taught in a classical education, is required as it is part of the fabric of our culture. and it is part of being educated.
which was my master's thesis. computers inhibit the writing process from the start. as for the poster who mentioned he tped college term papers, the people didn't learn to write in the first place.
Johnny can program, but he can't read or write a lick. In my spare time (/sarcasm) I teach high school history. Reading their papers is like dentistry sans novicaine. Trust me on this, if they can't program, or for that matter, graduate high school thinking a cd-rom is the drink holder, they'll be okay. If they graduate and read and write at their present level, we're doomed.
yes, hitler declared was on us. i never said he wasn't serious, i said that we were helping britain for a year and a half, and we were de facto at war with him anyways. fdr was entirely right to have a germany first policy, in spite of public opinion, and in spite of who actaully bombed us.
rememebr, saddam offerd bin laden sanctuary. now, one of the things people overlook is that saddam got religion the last several years of his rule. where did all those new mosques in fallujah, all the new clerics, and all the fedayyeen come from. though saddam and bin laden had many issues, they had the same three enemies: the saudis, the americans, and the shia. (oh, and israel is four, but that's like saying you didn't get laid but got a blow job.) now, nobody ever disproved the saddam-aQ links. it was just repeated enough times by the media and moronic pols to make you think so. the 9/11 commission even acknowledged the links. rememebr when lee hamilton was quoted erroneously? well, the media jumped all over what he purportedly said, but barely covered it when he himself refuted the claims.
america is hardly athens, and iraq no sparta. the issue is that we face a great threat today, and the problem is not a single enemy, but how to promote peace. we allowed jihadism to grow throughout the 80's and 90's unabated. we sent lawyers after terrorists, responded to attacks with a few missiles, and when we got the slightest bit bloodied, we cut and ran. iraq is part of the larger battle. keep in mind our ww2 strategy: invasion of africa (1942) then italy (1943), then france (1944). one would be hard pressed to argue that casablanca was a hotbed of fascism. in the pacific, we spent two years and thousands of lives not getting to japan, but to get back to the philippines, where the invasion of japan was to be launched from. look beneath the headlines and the clutter. afghanistan and iraq are both under centcom for a reason. they are part of the same theatre. that's called thinking strategically. now, for those who bitch abotu iran, remember where iran sits in relation to iraq and afghanistan. we're not just hunting needles in haystacks today, any more than just removing the nazis was our goal 60 years ago. germany was completely defeated and only then reformed. no doubt for far too long we propped up heinous regimes and allowed medieval societies to continue as long as we got our cheap oil. and see where it got us. bush's problem is that he's so damn bad at communicating.
I am a history teacher, and have probably read more books the past year than you've read in your entire lifetime. And no, I don't read screeds and I don't listen to talk radio. They're all about talking points and entertainment. Try reading something from the empirical school of history. You'll truly be amazed. And enlightened. Ah hell, I'm arguig history on/. That's like arguing security at a Microsoft developer's conference.
read FDR's arsenal of democracy speech. he claimed that germany wanted to control the world and dominate the US. wrong. hitler wanted lebensraum and control of europe. he thought asia should be ruled by asians. as for america, he thought we were a bastard racial mix that was doomed to failure. however, howevr, he implored his sub commanders under no circumstances to attaack US ships, even ships carrying supplies to britain. though germany decalred war on us, it was because we were openly aiding britain for a year and a half, and he figured it would solidify his ties to japan. and, he never thought for one moment we'd ever give one dime to the bolsheviks.
we're not running for asb. it matters not at all if we're "liked". however, i suggest you look past the state run media and the clerics. i'll take hundreds of thousands in beirut. you think that woul dhavbe happened sans OIF?
saddam had long standing aQ ties. here's 3 quickies: 1) ramseh yousef and muhammad (?) yasin. 1993 WTC bombing. 2) ansar al islam an dsalman pak. aQ affiliate and trainging center in iraq. 3) ayman al zawahiri. aQ #2, head of ops. was head of muslim botherhood in egypt for years. primary backer? saddam. he left Egypt for afghanistan in 1999. there's more too. anyways, to say "iraq didn't attack us" show a simpliostic and ignorant view of history. remember, we had a cease fire with iraq post GW1. we were patrolling 2/3 of his airspace. we were enforcing sanctions and embargoes. we had 100,000 troops of his coast to ensure inspections. on 9/11, there was only one nation we were engaged in hostile militray relations with: iraq. they had been shooting at us and we them, in accordance, I might add, with UN resolutions. bush didn't "go to war" but rather finished the war. big difference. we were not at peace with iraq.
the connection is easy. i suggest you read several books. start with shirer's rise and fall of the 3rd reich, read Kagan preseravtion of peace, read Thucydides history of the peloponesian war, read churchill's history of ww2 for starters. as for safer, we were less safe in 1943 than we were in 1940.
you'd see beyond the constructivist mentality that allows for such pedantry. you're spouting the same rhetoric of the religious fanatics you probably hate so much. conspiracy theory, rumor, inuuendo, coincidence, etc., all add up. see, the only way it could be a conspiracy is because it's a conspiracy. nice logic. we're safer for the iraqi war. remember, many in the US wanted nothing to do with another war in europe. FDR did everything bush did, except instead of 1500, it was 400,000. yet history has justified fdr. it will for bush too.
read the geneva conventions. i have. in fact, they were written specifically in reference to sarajevo 1914, because the austrian government accused the serbian government of collusion with the balack hand, though the serbian governmetn denied it. by specifically barring protections from terrorists like that, they were trying to prohibit groups like the black hand from pulling the world into war again. the reason they're not POW's is because they do not meet the categories. period. as for the PNAC stuff, that's been out there for a long time. give up on it. nexr your going to say cardinal spellman was involved. perhaps you should read a history book or two and you'd.
regarding the 12", i agree. i was going to buy a 12" pb, but got a 12" g4 ibook instead. though i must admit, for most things, my g3/700mhz ibook is still an awesome machine now that it has 640MB ram and panther. anyways, i'm not quite sure apple's thinking regarding the 12" laptops. i was more or less referring to the 15/17" PB's. for me, there is not going to be a difference. i don't work on sizable enough java projects, and most of my work, other than school crap, is php/mysql stuff. although i could use video mirroring, the ibooks can be had with a super drive. there is one other difference, and that's quality of hardware. i swear my g3 is a helluva lot more durable than the g4. you play with a g3 white ibook, it's really solid. the g4 feels alot more flimsy. of course the g3 cost $1500, the g4 $999. that's gotta come from somewhere!!!
i must admit that the one piece of software microsoft ever got right was excel. i have office on my ibook, but i use abi for word processing (or sometimes textedit's rtf mode) and keynote for my presentations. but i do my grades on excel. i do like OO.org but the SS really doesn't cut it, and gnumeric is missing a few things. i have written lots of cool one-offs like a jeopardy game in excel, and i have been able to do lots of things for my classes, database wise without having to set up a real database. for my money, word is awful and bloated, powerpoint not much better. but excel, bill and the boys did that one right. it's funny that a spreadsheet is so little used except by those who really need it.
One of the things that seems to have been lost along the route to our western democracy is that actions have consequences.
can I use that in my classroom? if slashdot was a real news site, this wouldn't even make the radar. but it's not a "news" site, so stories like this allow everyone to get all worked up and vent. it is amazing how people will cry censorship when they haven't a clue. I can't censor anything, i'm not the government. people got all worked up when the dixie chicks got all stupid in the UK. hey, they have that right, and people have the right to not listen to them. it's the same thing here. nobody's "banning" anything. if we value freedom, than we better value the responsibility that accompanies it. you can't have the former without the latter.
What the Mini really needs add-ons can't provide: a FASTER external bus type (FireWire800), not more ports. I like the Mini, but I just don't understand why Apple saddled a machine designed for external expansion with FireWire400. Unfortunately, USB 2.0 is woefully inadequate for mass storage.
they did this because they don't figure people are going to do any of that. they did this to compete with low priced pc's. my guess is that many mac mini purchases will be replacing pc's. my dad bought an emac only beacuse he wanted replace his 5 year old imac, and didn't want to buy a monitor too. if you have a montitor, then "switching" is easy. it'll also work great as a second mac at home, something to ssh/vnc into. remember, it has a laptop hard drive, so it's not a power machine. if you need that, you'll buy an imac, or power mac. people who buy minis won't need FW800 and people who need FW800 won't buy minis. it's the ibook/powerbook difference.
Both. Education is separate from training. I firmly believe in a classical, humanities based education, though I am not averse to teaching the students useful skills either. If we're going to teach technology, fine, but in tech class. An English teacher shouldn't also be a computer teacher. Thousands of years in the search and there's no substitute for books. Computers kinda get in the way. As for the implementation, that's a huge problem too. One (or is it really two words) word: Powerpoint. And I know that makes me a heretic.
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you can run anything you want on your hardware. the question was about os x versus linux, and i had an answer. you disagree. fine. i don't think someone buying a mini is going to be missing out on anything linux, especially considering that {fink|darinports} provides almost everything *nix. and darwin ports has a pretty good package management system. not great, but name one linux distro that does. and linux/x86 is a great combo and i didn't say buying a mini was wrong. but for most, many, whatever people, it's not going to be different. i have a linux box at home that a ssh -X into from work, primarily to get around the bess filter to read blogs. but other than a pure OSS system, i lack nothing on os x. i need for development java, perl, python, php, mysql, etc. and i use jedit and vim. i use gimp, but keep fireworks handy.
and when there's a linux version of iLife, than linux will have everything.
but i haven't read that apple is hiding the source, only radically forking it. forgive me for my ignorance, but if they use open source code, make whatever changes they want, then release them, what's the big deal. last time i read the gpl (and by the way, i wrote an AMP based intranet message board for my school, released under the gpl.) it didn't require anyone to explain their cahnges, only release the code. so what is the deal, you have to clean the hotel room too?
1) typo. supposed to be inextricably linked. makes better sense.
2) you obviously do not know the meaning of the word education.
3) cultural relativists are destroying our society. i don't suppose you'll get much empirical history at most universities, where determinism is the rule of the day. but the therapeutic, anti-western, relativist, pseudo-intellectaul fill-in-the-blank studies majors don't believe in anything other than rampant nihilism.
congrats. when the barbarians come knocking at your door, you try to logic with mustafa. tell him he needs anger management, that it's okay that he feels oppressed, that you feel his pain. but do it before he saws your head off in front of a camera. tell yourself that his clerical medievalism is "just his culture". of course do it before the blood drains from your body and you're a lifeless mass. and then in your last breath, wonder where the notion of civic militarism went, why the hopllite, the centurion, the mintueman, the GI, hasn't come to save your sorry ass. he was too busy being indoctrinated in sensitivty training to hate the enemy, to want to kill him.
cheers.
what is linux going to offer over OS X since you get OS X with a Mini anyway?
nothing. other than to say "I run linux on my mac mini". a coolness factor. sure, there's things you can do on linux, but for $500, you can buy alot nicer white box PC, or even a dell. i love linux, but i need java, php, perl, python, basic unix dev tools, and and some X stuff like gimp, etc. all runs great under os x. i don't do linux kernel development. os x is truly an awesome OS. i have never used anything like it.
1) reading and writing are extricably linked. you can't do one without the other. well, at least you can't write well without reading well.
2) we differ on what a productive member of society is. schools are here to educate citizens in a demcocracy, not train factory workers.
3) Shakespeare, and most everything else taught in a classical education, is required as it is part of the fabric of our culture. and it is part of being educated.
which was my master's thesis. computers inhibit the writing process from the start. as for the poster who mentioned he tped college term papers, the people didn't learn to write in the first place.
Johnny can program, but he can't read or write a lick. In my spare time (/sarcasm) I teach high school history. Reading their papers is like dentistry sans novicaine. Trust me on this, if they can't program, or for that matter, graduate high school thinking a cd-rom is the drink holder, they'll be okay. If they graduate and read and write at their present level, we're doomed.
well, there are plenty of single people getting laid. and a few of them might actually post on /. but the point was a silly one.
perhaps you're not married. frequent sex will alter your appreciation of some computer cables.
well, you had to ask
where it runs on multiple quad Opterons each with 24 gigabytes of RAM, 10 terabytes of disk space, and a gigabit link to the internet.
will it run linux?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Artic les/000/000/003/527uwabl.asp?pg=1
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Artic les/000/000/003/296fmttq.asp
stephen hayes has done outstanding work. read his book.
yes, hitler declared was on us. i never said he wasn't serious, i said that we were helping britain for a year and a half, and we were de facto at war with him anyways. fdr was entirely right to have a germany first policy, in spite of public opinion, and in spite of who actaully bombed us.
rememebr, saddam offerd bin laden sanctuary. now, one of the things people overlook is that saddam got religion the last several years of his rule. where did all those new mosques in fallujah, all the new clerics, and all the fedayyeen come from. though saddam and bin laden had many issues, they had the same three enemies: the saudis, the americans, and the shia. (oh, and israel is four, but that's like saying you didn't get laid but got a blow job.) now, nobody ever disproved the saddam-aQ links. it was just repeated enough times by the media and moronic pols to make you think so. the 9/11 commission even acknowledged the links. rememebr when lee hamilton was quoted erroneously? well, the media jumped all over what he purportedly said, but barely covered it when he himself refuted the claims.
america is hardly athens, and iraq no sparta. the issue is that we face a great threat today, and the problem is not a single enemy, but how to promote peace. we allowed jihadism to grow throughout the 80's and 90's unabated. we sent lawyers after terrorists, responded to attacks with a few missiles, and when we got the slightest bit bloodied, we cut and ran. iraq is part of the larger battle. keep in mind our ww2 strategy: invasion of africa (1942) then italy (1943), then france (1944). one would be hard pressed to argue that casablanca was a hotbed of fascism. in the pacific, we spent two years and thousands of lives not getting to japan, but to get back to the philippines, where the invasion of japan was to be launched from. look beneath the headlines and the clutter. afghanistan and iraq are both under centcom for a reason. they are part of the same theatre. that's called thinking strategically. now, for those who bitch abotu iran, remember where iran sits in relation to iraq and afghanistan. we're not just hunting needles in haystacks today, any more than just removing the nazis was our goal 60 years ago. germany was completely defeated and only then reformed. no doubt for far too long we propped up heinous regimes and allowed medieval societies to continue as long as we got our cheap oil. and see where it got us. bush's problem is that he's so damn bad at communicating.
I am a history teacher, and have probably read more books the past year than you've read in your entire lifetime. And no, I don't read screeds and I don't listen to talk radio. They're all about talking points and entertainment. Try reading something from the empirical school of history. You'll truly be amazed. And enlightened. Ah hell, I'm arguig history on /. That's like arguing security at a Microsoft developer's conference.
read FDR's arsenal of democracy speech. he claimed that germany wanted to control the world and dominate the US. wrong. hitler wanted lebensraum and control of europe. he thought asia should be ruled by asians. as for america, he thought we were a bastard racial mix that was doomed to failure. however, howevr, he implored his sub commanders under no circumstances to attaack US ships, even ships carrying supplies to britain. though germany decalred war on us, it was because we were openly aiding britain for a year and a half, and he figured it would solidify his ties to japan. and, he never thought for one moment we'd ever give one dime to the bolsheviks.
we're not running for asb. it matters not at all if we're "liked". however, i suggest you look past the state run media and the clerics. i'll take hundreds of thousands in beirut. you think that woul dhavbe happened sans OIF?
saddam had long standing aQ ties. here's 3 quickies: 1) ramseh yousef and muhammad (?) yasin. 1993 WTC bombing. 2) ansar al islam an dsalman pak. aQ affiliate and trainging center in iraq. 3) ayman al zawahiri. aQ #2, head of ops. was head of muslim botherhood in egypt for years. primary backer? saddam. he left Egypt for afghanistan in 1999. there's more too. anyways, to say "iraq didn't attack us" show a simpliostic and ignorant view of history. remember, we had a cease fire with iraq post GW1. we were patrolling 2/3 of his airspace. we were enforcing sanctions and embargoes. we had 100,000 troops of his coast to ensure inspections. on 9/11, there was only one nation we were engaged in hostile militray relations with: iraq. they had been shooting at us and we them, in accordance, I might add, with UN resolutions. bush didn't "go to war" but rather finished the war. big difference. we were not at peace with iraq.
the connection is easy. i suggest you read several books. start with shirer's rise and fall of the 3rd reich, read Kagan preseravtion of peace, read Thucydides history of the peloponesian war, read churchill's history of ww2 for starters. as for safer, we were less safe in 1943 than we were in 1940.
damn, hit submit not preview. anyways...
you'd see beyond the constructivist mentality that allows for such pedantry. you're spouting the same rhetoric of the religious fanatics you probably hate so much. conspiracy theory, rumor, inuuendo, coincidence, etc., all add up. see, the only way it could be a conspiracy is because it's a conspiracy. nice logic. we're safer for the iraqi war. remember, many in the US wanted nothing to do with another war in europe. FDR did everything bush did, except instead of 1500, it was 400,000. yet history has justified fdr. it will for bush too.
read the geneva conventions. i have. in fact, they were written specifically in reference to sarajevo 1914, because the austrian government accused the serbian government of collusion with the balack hand, though the serbian governmetn denied it. by specifically barring protections from terrorists like that, they were trying to prohibit groups like the black hand from pulling the world into war again. the reason they're not POW's is because they do not meet the categories. period. as for the PNAC stuff, that's been out there for a long time. give up on it. nexr your going to say cardinal spellman was involved. perhaps you should read a history book or two and you'd.
and calls themselves the shark slayer.
i want to know everything about these guys.
(if you have kids, you'd know.)
sun doesn't sell java. they could call it java 1.5 goatse and nobody'd care. it's still just "java".
thtop. that'th a thtupid potht. you thould be athamed.
regarding the 12", i agree. i was going to buy a 12" pb, but got a 12" g4 ibook instead. though i must admit, for most things, my g3/700mhz ibook is still an awesome machine now that it has 640MB ram and panther. anyways, i'm not quite sure apple's thinking regarding the 12" laptops. i was more or less referring to the 15/17" PB's. for me, there is not going to be a difference. i don't work on sizable enough java projects, and most of my work, other than school crap, is php/mysql stuff. although i could use video mirroring, the ibooks can be had with a super drive. there is one other difference, and that's quality of hardware. i swear my g3 is a helluva lot more durable than the g4. you play with a g3 white ibook, it's really solid. the g4 feels alot more flimsy. of course the g3 cost $1500, the g4 $999. that's gotta come from somewhere!!!
i must admit that the one piece of software microsoft ever got right was excel. i have office on my ibook, but i use abi for word processing (or sometimes textedit's rtf mode) and keynote for my presentations. but i do my grades on excel. i do like OO.org but the SS really doesn't cut it, and gnumeric is missing a few things. i have written lots of cool one-offs like a jeopardy game in excel, and i have been able to do lots of things for my classes, database wise without having to set up a real database. for my money, word is awful and bloated, powerpoint not much better. but excel, bill and the boys did that one right. it's funny that a spreadsheet is so little used except by those who really need it.
One of the things that seems to have been lost along the route to our western democracy is that actions have consequences.
can I use that in my classroom? if slashdot was a real news site, this wouldn't even make the radar. but it's not a "news" site, so stories like this allow everyone to get all worked up and vent. it is amazing how people will cry censorship when they haven't a clue. I can't censor anything, i'm not the government. people got all worked up when the dixie chicks got all stupid in the UK. hey, they have that right, and people have the right to not listen to them. it's the same thing here. nobody's "banning" anything. if we value freedom, than we better value the responsibility that accompanies it. you can't have the former without the latter.
What the Mini really needs add-ons can't provide: a FASTER external bus type (FireWire800), not more ports. I like the Mini, but I just don't understand why Apple saddled a machine designed for external expansion with FireWire400. Unfortunately, USB 2.0 is woefully inadequate for mass storage.
they did this because they don't figure people are going to do any of that. they did this to compete with low priced pc's. my guess is that many mac mini purchases will be replacing pc's. my dad bought an emac only beacuse he wanted replace his 5 year old imac, and didn't want to buy a monitor too. if you have a montitor, then "switching" is easy. it'll also work great as a second mac at home, something to ssh/vnc into. remember, it has a laptop hard drive, so it's not a power machine. if you need that, you'll buy an imac, or power mac. people who buy minis won't need FW800 and people who need FW800 won't buy minis. it's the ibook/powerbook difference.
Both. Education is separate from training. I firmly believe in a classical, humanities based education, though I am not averse to teaching the students useful skills either. If we're going to teach technology, fine, but in tech class. An English teacher shouldn't also be a computer teacher. Thousands of years in the search and there's no substitute for books. Computers kinda get in the way. As for the implementation, that's a huge problem too. One (or is it really two words) word: Powerpoint. And I know that makes me a heretic.