Novell isn't trying to compete with M$. That's not what they are about anymore. Novell knows that they make quality products. So do I. You do not. Get bent.
Being that the next version of NetWare is going to run on either the NetWare kernel or Linux kernel, I think that they were looking for a good server-side buy.
There is nothing wrong with GroupWise. You need to learn it and love it. There is a reason you don't have a virus hijacking your GroupWise address book. You would rather have Outlook and have to deal with a CRAPLOAD of problems? I like how you actually have to setup each user on each workstation if they are to access Outlook on it. With GroupWise, they plop down, login, and that's it. Seriously, you would trade solid design , security and functionality for pretty icons?
Before you make such outlandish comments, you should realize that Novell has shipped X windows with their servers since NetWare 5. Uses ICEwm. So, they DO have about 5 or more years worth of experience. Get off your soapbox, asshat.
Some suggestions for the short term: First, one should make it a point to physically secure the server and limit access to the hardware. Second, you can lock the console, which will require the admin username and password to unlock it (configure the console screensaver). Three, you don't use rconsole or RconJ. You use AdRem's Remote Console (and remove access to the built-ins), which does use user-level authentication (and encryption). And if all of that doesn't float your boat, you can run Bash on it.
OK, I really think that anyone here that is bad-mouthing Novell has yet to actually sit down and play with a NetWare server. Wait, make that a PROPERLY CONFIGURED NetWare server. If that could happen BEFORE the flame-fest, I think that we would only be seeing half of the comments in this thread.
Ok, first of all, it is NovelL. TWO "L's" people. I mean, come on. Second, the ONLY reason that those GroupWise servers are being rebooted is either a screwed up configuration, or flaky hardware. Trust me, when any Novell product is configured properly, it is ROCK SOLID.
You want to know how long? If Novell stopped making money today, they would be able to continue business for THREE YEARS without missing a beat. Why? Because they have ZERO debt, and a fat mountain of cash in the bank. And trust me, they aren't going anywhere.
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NDS has run on Linux for some time now. Just FYI :-)
Novell isn't trying to compete with M$. That's not what they are about anymore. Novell knows that they make quality products. So do I. You do not. Get bent.
Oh yeah, I'm sure you were telling NOVELL how to design a tree... riiiiiight.
Fucking aye you're a jackass.
Being that the next version of NetWare is going to run on either the NetWare kernel or Linux kernel, I think that they were looking for a good server-side buy.
But, you have to also realize that Novell isn't going to push those things, they are going to push GroupWise, Novell Clustering Services, etc.
Sorry, I'm right, you're wrong. It happens.
Acutally, Tux's home is in Provo, Utah since Novell is now the owner of the logo's copyright (cause they bought Ximian...)
There is nothing wrong with GroupWise. You need to learn it and love it. There is a reason you don't have a virus hijacking your GroupWise address book. You would rather have Outlook and have to deal with a CRAPLOAD of problems? I like how you actually have to setup each user on each workstation if they are to access Outlook on it. With GroupWise, they plop down, login, and that's it. Seriously, you would trade solid design , security and functionality for pretty icons?
No.
You sir, are a no-talent ass-clown. Better?
FYI - You're a moron.
Before you make such outlandish comments, you should realize that Novell has shipped X windows with their servers since NetWare 5. Uses ICEwm. So, they DO have about 5 or more years worth of experience. Get off your soapbox, asshat.
Sorry, I was just kidding about the Michigan Militia... they really aren't to be taken seriously :)
What? You haven't heard of the Michigan Militia!
Heh, reminds me of that Saturday Night Live skit with Joe Pesci sitting on the stoop with David Spade yelling at people:
"Hey RIAA, SCO just called; they want their business model back!"
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"Oh, I've wasted my life." - Comicbook Guy
Helps if you spell it right, tho...
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What are the most elusive OS's that aren't on the NMAP OS fingerprint database?
Novell NetWare.
Last I checked, Cat5 is a type of cabling, not a certification that a cable could obtain...
Amen brother!
Some suggestions for the short term: First, one should make it a point to physically secure the server and limit access to the hardware. Second, you can lock the console, which will require the admin username and password to unlock it (configure the console screensaver). Three, you don't use rconsole or RconJ. You use AdRem's Remote Console (and remove access to the built-ins), which does use user-level authentication (and encryption). And if all of that doesn't float your boat, you can run Bash on it.
OK, I really think that anyone here that is bad-mouthing Novell has yet to actually sit down and play with a NetWare server. Wait, make that a PROPERLY CONFIGURED NetWare server. If that could happen BEFORE the flame-fest, I think that we would only be seeing half of the comments in this thread.
Ok, first of all, it is NovelL. TWO "L's" people. I mean, come on. Second, the ONLY reason that those GroupWise servers are being rebooted is either a screwed up configuration, or flaky hardware. Trust me, when any Novell product is configured properly, it is ROCK SOLID.
You want to know how long? If Novell stopped making money today, they would be able to continue business for THREE YEARS without missing a beat. Why? Because they have ZERO debt, and a fat mountain of cash in the bank. And trust me, they aren't going anywhere.
I totally to agree with you on the MCNE. I am a CNE myself, and I have to say that it is a labor of love working with Novell.