"inspired me and thousands of others like me to pick up a guitar and really learn to play"
They had some interesting licks (Roundabout intro, Closer to the Heart, Xanadu). Even with OLGA, there's often finesses left out, so yes, there was nothing wrong with them as musicians. It's their body of composition on the whole, not the isolated fragments of brilliance, that leaves me cold. The punks weren't thrilled either. Now there was some fun! Those one note melodies! (OK, sometimes stretched to two) "She was a girl from Birmingham" "You're too dumb baby, and you got no Brrr-ain!" And to have a bass player who couldn't play! That was a stroke of genius!
"some people enjoy making music and they don't care if they make money at it"
And often their musical understanding transcends their genre (metal, disco) and they surprise with great stuff... but most people don't say no to money...
Yep! Mickey Dolenz was a good singer! No coincidence he sung lead on their biggies. The Boyce and Hart professionalism on Last Train to Clarksville... the Neil Diamond compo I'm a Believer... Good shit!!
'give a good listen to "Yummy Yummy Yummy,I've Got Love In My Tummy" and explain'
That was a good song! I love it! It's the voice that makes it! Just the right amount of clip to it! And the chug-chug-chug-chug with the anvil clank sound effect thrown in. And the oblique reference to oral sex... what did you think the "love" was?... swallow, yeah!
Yes, people have been hung up on this group for way too long. Play talent scout on the internet and sample the zillions of songs/bands/musicmakers on audiogalaxy/iuma etc and in a few months you'll have a collection of tracks that exactly match your taste and are much more satisfying than anything the Beatles ever did. Also, there's nothing quite like the feeling of unearthing a great "find" and listening to people who demonstrate a deep understanding of a musical style yet for one reason or another, never made it to the big time.
So slow, bloated, and buggy as to be unusable. Ashton Tate, the company behind it and successful up to II and III, would have gone under but was lucky enough to be bought out by Borland...
Biased comment here, but I think slashdot people are usually interested in computer art. If you go to my site listed in my byline, you can see the art I offer.
It seems to me that the Open Source model relies on a stream of volunteers working for free. It's a good way to get programming practice, but, sooner or later, a person has to pay his bills. And if the executables are packaged and sold for money, do all the volunteers get a cut of the profits? Just wondering.
I'd be interested to know if Lee had anything to say about Wallace Wood. I've heard the two didn't get along that well but time (Wood died in the early 1980s) may have diminished the bad memories and left the good.
For those who may not know, Wallace Wood was an incredible drawer who at one time worked for almost everybody in the industry. Recently on ebay, an original Weird Science cover drawing by Wood was up for sale at $25,000.
Don't ask, don't tell. I may smoke but I don't inhale...:-)
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"Managers"
Manangers who survive until age 50 are then likely to be laid off themselves so that the salary savings can be put towards increasing the bonuses of the highest execs.
"This might even encourage musicians to write good songs for a change on a consistent basis. =)"
I think that most of the time, they actually are trying to write good songs, but there's no certain formula for success. It seems to be a hit-or-miss affair. Perhaps that's why good songs are referred to as "hits", to reflect the luck aspect.
Razor blades and automobiles perhaps. When the aircraft carrier HMCS Bonaventure was scrapped in the early '70s, the story was that it came back to Canada in the form of Datsuns... whose bodies seemed to rust away while you watched. All that prior exposure to salt water...
"majoring in CS was a bit like majoring in circular saw operation instead of carpentry."
Very good point. And once someone who is a computer specialist looks beyond the tool itself and tries to create something with it, the results are often remarkable.
Perhaps then the countermeasure would be for the spammers to do a few runs advertising companies that never requested it. Then a company that did request it could just deny everything and claim that the spammer had acted for them without authorization also.
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Obvious move really. Guess these Programmer Artists slept through complex arithmetic.
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They had some interesting licks (Roundabout intro, Closer to the Heart, Xanadu). Even with OLGA, there's often finesses left out, so yes, there was nothing wrong with them as musicians. It's their body of composition on the whole, not the isolated fragments of brilliance, that leaves me cold. The punks weren't thrilled either. Now there was some fun! Those one note melodies! (OK, sometimes stretched to two) "She was a girl from Birmingham" "You're too dumb baby, and you got no Brrr-ain!" And to have a bass player who couldn't play! That was a stroke of genius!
And often their musical understanding transcends their genre (metal, disco) and they surprise with great stuff ... but most people don't say no to money ...
Yes! And it's the one-hit-wonders that are the very best! Because they got by all that entrenched shit like Beatles, LZ, BSB, Jackson, Britney ...
Raise your voice, For God, Love, and Rock 'n Roll! -T&VW
Now there was garbage for you! Well, Steve Howe's classical technique had a few moments, Alex Leifson's too, but Kansas...
Yep! Mickey Dolenz was a good singer! No coincidence he sung lead on their biggies. The Boyce and Hart professionalism on Last Train to Clarksville... the Neil Diamond compo I'm a Believer... Good shit!!
That was a good song! I love it! It's the voice that makes it! Just the right amount of clip to it! And the chug-chug-chug-chug with the anvil clank sound effect thrown in. And the oblique reference to oral sex... what did you think the "love" was? ... swallow, yeah!
Imagine that!
Yes, people have been hung up on this group for way too long. Play talent scout on the internet and sample the zillions of songs/bands/musicmakers on audiogalaxy/iuma etc and in a few months you'll have a collection of tracks that exactly match your taste and are much more satisfying than anything the Beatles ever did. Also, there's nothing quite like the feeling of unearthing a great "find" and listening to people who demonstrate a deep understanding of a musical style yet for one reason or another, never made it to the big time.
So slow, bloated, and buggy as to be unusable. Ashton Tate, the company behind it and successful up to II and III, would have gone under but was lucky enough to be bought out by Borland...
Biased comment here, but I think slashdot people are usually interested in computer art. If you go to my site listed in my byline, you can see the art I offer.
It seems to me that the Open Source model relies on a stream of volunteers working for free. It's a good way to get programming practice, but, sooner or later, a person has to pay his bills. And if the executables are packaged and sold for money, do all the volunteers get a cut of the profits? Just wondering.
Who?
I'd be interested to know if Lee had anything to say about Wallace Wood. I've heard the two didn't get along that well but time (Wood died in the early 1980s) may have diminished the bad memories and left the good. For those who may not know, Wallace Wood was an incredible drawer who at one time worked for almost everybody in the industry. Recently on ebay, an original Weird Science cover drawing by Wood was up for sale at $25,000.
"Long, hard, and full of seamen?"
Don't ask, don't tell. I may smoke but I don't inhale... :-)
Manangers who survive until age 50 are then likely to be laid off themselves so that the salary savings can be put towards increasing the bonuses of the highest execs.
Or was it the Cone of Silence?! Sic' 'em Fang!
I think that most of the time, they actually are trying to write good songs, but there's no certain formula for success. It seems to be a hit-or-miss affair. Perhaps that's why good songs are referred to as "hits", to reflect the luck aspect.
"scrap value"
Razor blades and automobiles perhaps. When the aircraft carrier HMCS Bonaventure was scrapped in the early '70s, the story was that it came back to Canada in the form of Datsuns... whose bodies seemed to rust away while you watched. All that prior exposure to salt water...
"majoring in CS was a bit like majoring in circular saw operation instead of carpentry."
Very good point. And once someone who is a computer specialist looks beyond the tool itself and tries to create something with it, the results are often remarkable.
"My god, the internet IS A FRACTAL!" I must be dense. I don't get it. Chaos everywhere, maybe?
Perhaps then the countermeasure would be for the spammers to do a few runs advertising companies that never requested it. Then a company that did request it could just deny everything and claim that the spammer had acted for them without authorization also.
Obvious move really. Guess these Programmer Artists slept through complex arithmetic.