Agreed, but I'm sure in the long run we're better off with maintenance than without... I'm sure as the game matures the frequency of maintenance outages with decrease.
But you didn't lose anything found in that hour...a big part of Diablo is playing through many times to level up and find things you didn't find the first time(s) around.
of the cheaters, modders, and botters...hopefully there's some sort of appeal process if you are mistakenly banned from the game however.
I'm tired of people bitching about the internet connection requirement...do you really disconnect your computer from the internet often when gaming? It's not like you have to pay a monthly fee.
It makes sense seeing how the single player game is still tied into the auction house and now the real money auction house. It keeps a level of legitimacy to the items in these places.
Don't like it?, I don't care. It's a good game and I'm all for keeping out the cheaters, modders and botters as much as possible.
You're denying the owner the monetary compensation they deserve in return for you getting a copy of their software, so yes it is theft. You're not stealing the object, you are stealing the profit.
Cars used to be the same way when they were new...it's slowly changing now with computers...people will eventually realize how hard they were really getting screwed.
Who would modify your car without your consent unless by modify you mean break a window and steal your CD receiver. Thats what car alarms are for. An OS shouldn't be so horribly insecure anyone can access it and hijack it at will, and that just be "OK".
EULA's shouldn't be able to take away a consumer's basic rights as many basically do these days. If you buy a product you expect it to work as advertised and not be defective. It seems only software companies are able to get away with selling defective products by tacking on long EULA's to them. Why don't car companies tack EULA's onto their vehicles saying if it's defective, you're SOL? Because nobody would put up with it, they'd go find another car without one. Nobody would put up with that on about any other product except software. I strongly agree people should stop letting software companies shove defective software down their throats. I say people challenge EULA's at all *reasonable* opportunity... EULA's should simply be an agreement that you're not going to reverse engineer their product or distribute it illegally and such....not forcing you into agreeing that the software is probably defective and that you're going to be the one paying out your ass for it.
Perhaps not economically, but most definately mentally. Sometimes the mental benefits are worth more than the economic ones... Think about that for a minute.
You wanna play ball? Small business ("evil satan-spawn" is probably the term more familiar to you)
Ball 1...I don't ever know where that one came from.... makes up 99.7% of American employers and gives jobs to over 50% of the workforce.
Ball 2...I wasn't even talking about small businesses first of all...you pulled that one out of nowhere...Ball 3 Businesses are fueled by customers, not labor.
Oh, sorry I didn't use the proper corporate gobblydigook to describe my point, sure businesses are fueled by customers, but they are built on employees. You're not going to get good service from a business without well treated employees, it just doesn't happen. Ball 4. Looks like I'm strollin' to first. Better to struggle from paycheck to paycheck than not to get one at all.
So basically screw everyone who works entry level jobs and force them to live inevitably in poverty. Lets widen the gap between the rich and the poor as much as possible...that never leads to anything bad, does it?... Ball 1. When minimum wages go up, employers cannot hire as many employees.
I'm talking about big businesses. Not small businesses. The big ones that employ half our population and whose execs account for the vast majority of the money in this country. They can easily afford to pay when minimum wage goes up. Would shaving that 20 cents times x minimum wage employees off the hourly wages of the top level execs really hurt them? Ball 2... And they cannot afford as much training and further education for the employees they already have.
Yeah cuz I know all those minimum wage employees need so goddamn much training to know how to make a Taco or use a broom. That must cost employers dearly!!!...Ball 3....
Also, I didn't know that my local fast food joint (or any other minimum wage employer) was going to help pay my way through college! In your dreams...Ball 4...Looks like I'm strollin' to second.... Ah, you mean like the retired guy down the street in the 3 bedroom ranch-style? He runs his own business but I don't remember seeing any pools of money out back.
Once again you completely miss the fact that I was talking about large corporations, not small businesses, therefore making this comment completely irrelevent. The pitcher's not paying attention, I believe I'll just steal third. Yes, everybody's just hoarding money so they don't have to give it to their disgusting employees.
Perhaps if they received decent wages they could afford to not be "disgusting" as you put it. Could you be any more obtuse? Not this isn't a Charles Dickens novel, it's real people who lead real lives who deserve a chance at a decent wage. Believe it or not, between the dental plans, health plans, retirement plans, overly strict worker's comp regulations, overly strict environmental regulations, mandated programs, union pressure, and constantly rising employee demands for wages and benefits, American businesses do find it difficult to employ Americans.
So how many people working in fast food drive thru's are actually getting dental, health, and retirement again? Please I'd love to know....
And hey, those environmental programs, yeah screw those, it's party time! Lets trash the planet for our children! Don't tell me you have none - that's just being goddamn selfish.
Constantly rising demands for wages/benefits generally stems from a constantly rising cost of living. Sure unions can get greedy, and I believe there should be some protection against that just the same as minimum wage is a protection against businesses getting greedy and exploiting their employees. That would only be fair. I'm going home.
Computers are a human creation...it's not a matter of whether we can trust the computer, but rather a matter of can we trust that the people who built the computer and coded the software it runs knew what they were doing and didn't make any errors. Computers can only do what we tell them to...so really it was humans who indirectly made the proofs by producing a system capable of doing so. All it really boils down to is whether the folks who made the system and it's software knew what they were doing or not and whether they made any errors or not.
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If anyone is tempted by it that sounds like a self control issue, not an evil scheme by Blizzard. You can take off your tinfoil hat now...
Agreed, but I'm sure in the long run we're better off with maintenance than without... I'm sure as the game matures the frequency of maintenance outages with decrease.
But you didn't lose anything found in that hour...a big part of Diablo is playing through many times to level up and find things you didn't find the first time(s) around.
I meant malicious mods...guess that falls in with cheaters and botters...
Agreed it is an unfortunate aspect.
I refer to malicious mods...I guess it could be considere redundant and that would fall under cheaters and botters.
of the cheaters, modders, and botters...hopefully there's some sort of appeal process if you are mistakenly banned from the game however. I'm tired of people bitching about the internet connection requirement...do you really disconnect your computer from the internet often when gaming? It's not like you have to pay a monthly fee. It makes sense seeing how the single player game is still tied into the auction house and now the real money auction house. It keeps a level of legitimacy to the items in these places. Don't like it?, I don't care. It's a good game and I'm all for keeping out the cheaters, modders and botters as much as possible.
...it would be a "storm" in the cloud
...when using intercontinental in the context of a 515 mile flight from Europe to Africa. Wake me up when it goes from North America to Europe...
or at least die trying
Thats because Bungie didn't do the port, Westlake did.
There's nothing crippled about Apple's hardware. It shitty ports that make some game perform poorly on the Mac. *cough* Halo *cough*
You're denying the owner the monetary compensation they deserve in return for you getting a copy of their software, so yes it is theft. You're not stealing the object, you are stealing the profit.
Where? I've been using macs since the late 80's and I've *never* seen one that ambiguous.
No the genesis had a 68000 series processor, not a PPC. Old macs weren't powermacs either, they were also 68000 series processors.
yes.
This already exists in a way - iBook/PowerBook + radioSHARK
Cars used to be the same way when they were new...it's slowly changing now with computers...people will eventually realize how hard they were really getting screwed.
Who would modify your car without your consent unless by modify you mean break a window and steal your CD receiver. Thats what car alarms are for. An OS shouldn't be so horribly insecure anyone can access it and hijack it at will, and that just be "OK".
A car company cannot guaratee where the car is driven...not all roads are good.
EULA's shouldn't be able to take away a consumer's basic rights as many basically do these days. If you buy a product you expect it to work as advertised and not be defective. It seems only software companies are able to get away with selling defective products by tacking on long EULA's to them. Why don't car companies tack EULA's onto their vehicles saying if it's defective, you're SOL? Because nobody would put up with it, they'd go find another car without one. Nobody would put up with that on about any other product except software. I strongly agree people should stop letting software companies shove defective software down their throats. I say people challenge EULA's at all *reasonable* opportunity... EULA's should simply be an agreement that you're not going to reverse engineer their product or distribute it illegally and such....not forcing you into agreeing that the software is probably defective and that you're going to be the one paying out your ass for it.
Nice idea in a utopian world, but take a look outside: money doesn't really grow on trees. People are greedy and lazy and bound to abuse this.
Perhaps not economically, but most definately mentally. Sometimes the mental benefits are worth more than the economic ones... Think about that for a minute.
You wanna play ball? ...Ball 3....
Small business ("evil satan-spawn" is probably the term more familiar to you)
Ball 1...I don't ever know where that one came from....
makes up 99.7% of American employers and gives jobs to over 50% of the workforce.
Ball 2...I wasn't even talking about small businesses first of all...you pulled that one out of nowhere...Ball 3
Businesses are fueled by customers, not labor.
Oh, sorry I didn't use the proper corporate gobblydigook to describe my point, sure businesses are fueled by customers, but they are built on employees. You're not going to get good service from a business without well treated employees, it just doesn't happen. Ball 4. Looks like I'm strollin' to first.
Better to struggle from paycheck to paycheck than not to get one at all.
So basically screw everyone who works entry level jobs and force them to live inevitably in poverty. Lets widen the gap between the rich and the poor as much as possible...that never leads to anything bad, does it?... Ball 1.
When minimum wages go up, employers cannot hire as many employees.
I'm talking about big businesses. Not small businesses. The big ones that employ half our population and whose execs account for the vast majority of the money in this country. They can easily afford to pay when minimum wage goes up. Would shaving that 20 cents times x minimum wage employees off the hourly wages of the top level execs really hurt them? Ball 2...
And they cannot afford as much training and further education for the employees they already have.
Yeah cuz I know all those minimum wage employees need so goddamn much training to know how to make a Taco or use a broom. That must cost employers dearly !!!
Also, I didn't know that my local fast food joint (or any other minimum wage employer) was going to help pay my way through college! In your dreams...Ball 4...Looks like I'm strollin' to second....
Ah, you mean like the retired guy down the street in the 3 bedroom ranch-style? He runs his own business but I don't remember seeing any pools of money out back.
Once again you completely miss the fact that I was talking about large corporations, not small businesses, therefore making this comment completely irrelevent. The pitcher's not paying attention, I believe I'll just steal third.
Yes, everybody's just hoarding money so they don't have to give it to their disgusting employees.
Perhaps if they received decent wages they could afford to not be "disgusting" as you put it. Could you be any more obtuse? Not this isn't a Charles Dickens novel, it's real people who lead real lives who deserve a chance at a decent wage.
Believe it or not, between the dental plans, health plans, retirement plans, overly strict worker's comp regulations, overly strict environmental regulations, mandated programs, union pressure, and constantly rising employee demands for wages and benefits, American businesses do find it difficult to employ Americans.
So how many people working in fast food drive thru's are actually getting dental, health, and retirement again? Please I'd love to know....
And hey, those environmental programs, yeah screw those, it's party time! Lets trash the planet for our children! Don't tell me you have none - that's just being goddamn selfish.
Constantly rising demands for wages/benefits generally stems from a constantly rising cost of living. Sure unions can get greedy, and I believe there should be some protection against that just the same as minimum wage is a protection against businesses getting greedy and exploiting their employees. That would only be fair. I'm going home.
Computers are a human creation...it's not a matter of whether we can trust the computer, but rather a matter of can we trust that the people who built the computer and coded the software it runs knew what they were doing and didn't make any errors. Computers can only do what we tell them to...so really it was humans who indirectly made the proofs by producing a system capable of doing so. All it really boils down to is whether the folks who made the system and it's software knew what they were doing or not and whether they made any errors or not.