As far as I can tell, in Canada, because of the levy on blank CD, etc, it is perfectly legal to copy from original music media (i.e. copying a friend's CD) for private non-commercial use, but it is not legal to distribute the copy. So your friend cannot copy the CD for you, and then give you that copy. You need to make your own copy from the original by borrowing the original CD for example. Technically when downloading via P2P, you are receiving a copy i.e. not the original media, so this would be in breach of this.
where you defended Microsoft by claiming Microsoft's prices are not over-inflated. Now you are claiming the opposite: that Microsoft's prices are over-inflated and you are in support of the over-inflation.
Perhaps I was wrong in thinking you were supporting Microsoft's greed. But astroturfing stills seems to be the most logical explanation for you illogical statements.
My initial arguement was that that total development and production costs are way more than US$0.79ea - knocking the idea that the cost of the media, documentation and packaging should be the actual retail price (or near-abouts). That idea is unrealistic and totally ridiculous. Research and development is expensive. Software should be priced high enough to cover costs and make a profit - afterall these guys are a business not a charity.
Maybe MS charge far more than they should and yes the court ruled that MS had a monopoly back in '99. However today things are a little better. We have better alternatives now. I would prefer to see more people ditch MS completely, as we do have other choices in 2007. If MS's greed helps move people to better alternatives, then thats a bonus. To be clear that I am not astro-turfing (although I am unfamiliar with that term) - bloated and buggy MS software and evil practises should be more than enough reason to ditch them for alternatives.
For example, in the good old days when copyright would actually expire, as soon as the copyright did expire on a work, everyone had a right to what used to be some else's property. It sounds like you are describing some sort of libertarian utopia instead of the real world.
With copyright, you don't have an automatic right to a work until the copyright expires, I believe. I am not sure how that translates to software, but ignoring EULAs, I'd guess the software would be obsolete by the time people have an automatic right to it (if that's even possible).
You wrongly assert that I believe that greed is good. Greed can however be a catalyst for people looking elsewhere for alternatives. All I am saying is that no-one has a right to anyone else's property except under their terms. I use the word "choice" - which we all have. Truly, MS does not have a monopoly in the software business - you can actually choose a Mac, Linux, Solaris, BSD, etc, system. I am all for the over-inflated Microsoft software prices - especially if it prices some people out of that market. That way people will make the switch to Linux, BSD, or similar alternatives. Microsoft has much much more evil going on, than just its pricing.
If that is the case then please explain where Bill Gates got those billions and billions of dollars from.
Software licensing perhaps? No-one is ripping you off. You have choices. You have the choice to not buy Microsoft products, or any other software product for that matter. They could charge 1,000,000,000x what it cost them to make if they liked. Their product, their choice. You would not have to buy it. But then again, you would not automatically have the right to use it either, mind you. Why should you? It is not your right that they sell it at an affordable price, or even a price much closer to the actual cost.
If you detest software companies and the music and film industry, then go completely open source. Listen to music released by independant labels or perhaps that is released under creative commons licensing. Oh wait, perhaps it's not as polished? Oh well, you have choices.
...or maybe total cost of development, manufacture, marketing, research, etc, divided by the total number of users > US$0.79 each user? Maybe alot > US$0.79ea?
Fact: The unit cost of a single CD, silkscreened, in a jewel case, with six-page four-color liner notes, quantity 5,000: USD$0.91.
Quantity 10,000: USD$0.79.
Ok then, using that logic, why does Adobe Photoshop, Windows Vista, MS Office, Adobe Premier, DigiDesign Protools, etc, and any PS/3 or Xbox360 game all cost alot more than USD$0.79?
It looks like the letters F, I, and M were attacked and recovered, whereas G (US Department of Defense) and L (ICANN) did less well.
Faster than a rolling 'O'
Stronger than silent 'E'
Able to leap capital 'T' in a single bound!
It's a word, it's a plan...it's Letterman! (majestic three-note fanfare)
I want an Xbox360. However, many I see in stores are frozen at the "contact Xbox.com/support" screen..... I certainly hope it's just a crap demo disk that's crashed and that it's not usual for xbox360 when at home with real games??!!
You're kidding right?
1). There is a native Firefox port for GNU/Linux.
2). The IE7 installer validates your Windows install/license before it will install. Good luck installing it!
Google's site, Google's rules. Don't like it? You have other choices. Unlike Microsoft products, it's not like many of us are locked into using Google. Just the way I see it.
I let it download while I was at church for Christmas
this is relevant how?
Intolerant, much? Maybe that PC brigade would have preferred that he said:
"I let it download while I was at some place (that I cannot mention for fear of offending someone) to celebrate some festival (that I also cannot mention by name for fear of offending someone)."
You are confusing accent with language. Germans could easily recognise the accent (and of course the dialect too) as being from Switzerland. Just like how they can easily recognise accents from various regions of their own country. It's not just a dialect thing. Calling it a Swiss accent is spot on.
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As far as I can tell, in Canada, because of the levy on blank CD, etc, it is perfectly legal to copy from original music media (i.e. copying a friend's CD) for private non-commercial use, but it is not legal to distribute the copy. So your friend cannot copy the CD for you, and then give you that copy. You need to make your own copy from the original by borrowing the original CD for example. Technically when downloading via P2P, you are receiving a copy i.e. not the original media, so this would be in breach of this.
Maybe MS charge far more than they should and yes the court ruled that MS had a monopoly back in '99. However today things are a little better. We have better alternatives now. I would prefer to see more people ditch MS completely, as we do have other choices in 2007. If MS's greed helps move people to better alternatives, then thats a bonus. To be clear that I am not astro-turfing (although I am unfamiliar with that term) - bloated and buggy MS software and evil practises should be more than enough reason to ditch them for alternatives.
With copyright, you don't have an automatic right to a work until the copyright expires, I believe. I am not sure how that translates to software, but ignoring EULAs, I'd guess the software would be obsolete by the time people have an automatic right to it (if that's even possible).
You wrongly assert that I believe that greed is good. Greed can however be a catalyst for people looking elsewhere for alternatives. All I am saying is that no-one has a right to anyone else's property except under their terms. I use the word "choice" - which we all have. Truly, MS does not have a monopoly in the software business - you can actually choose a Mac, Linux, Solaris, BSD, etc, system. I am all for the over-inflated Microsoft software prices - especially if it prices some people out of that market. That way people will make the switch to Linux, BSD, or similar alternatives. Microsoft has much much more evil going on, than just its pricing.
If you detest software companies and the music and film industry, then go completely open source. Listen to music released by independant labels or perhaps that is released under creative commons licensing. Oh wait, perhaps it's not as polished? Oh well, you have choices.
...or maybe total cost of development, manufacture, marketing, research, etc, divided by the total number of users > US$0.79 each user? Maybe alot > US$0.79ea?
Stronger than silent 'E'
Able to leap capital 'T' in a single bound!
It's a word, it's a plan...it's Letterman! (majestic three-note fanfare)
I want an Xbox360. However, many I see in stores are frozen at the "contact Xbox.com/support" screen..... I certainly hope it's just a crap demo disk that's crashed and that it's not usual for xbox360 when at home with real games??!!
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Ok. But it still begs the question though: "Why???!".
None of those windows are IE7 instances. With IE7 the entire interface has been changed from previous versions.
You're kidding right?
1). There is a native Firefox port for GNU/Linux.
2). The IE7 installer validates your Windows install/license before it will install. Good luck installing it!
Google's site, Google's rules. Don't like it? You have other choices. Unlike Microsoft products, it's not like many of us are locked into using Google. Just the way I see it.
"I let it download while I was at some place (that I cannot mention for fear of offending someone) to celebrate some festival (that I also cannot mention by name for fear of offending someone)."
You are confusing accent with language. Germans could easily recognise the accent (and of course the dialect too) as being from Switzerland. Just like how they can easily recognise accents from various regions of their own country. It's not just a dialect thing. Calling it a Swiss accent is spot on.
Which one will have Spongebob Squarepants platform games? Uhh.... a **ahem** friend would like to know.... ;-)
Hibernation is still not "instant-on" by a long shot. My P4 laptop still takes almost 3/4 as much time to resume from hibernation as it does to boot.
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Then you wouldn't run anything closed source at all? Opening one's source code is nice, but not obligatory.
So where will be buy our hula hoops from now? :-(