The biggest ISP at the college I used to go to (not the univeristy itself) used to do this. They'd profile traffic and shut down machines that were spamming or otherwise behaving badly.
The way I see it, it's good for everyone, including the ISP. The only downside was when your roommate had something and your internet got shut off before a paper was due.:)
Eh. I did help desk and minor admin stuff out of HS. After that I did sysadmin and netadmin stuff. Later I decided to try being a programmer. I did well at all of them... but wasn't happy.
Turned out, I want to do ALL of them, not NONE of them. Started working for small businesses only... and now I'm pretty peachy.:)
Some people just need to do something different every day.
Having thought about it, the submitter is disappointed that they must continually develop new, better software products?
How is that a problem? Today, you're selling a simple app that people need. Tomorrow, someone will make a new one, but in the meantime you get to keep your developers busy (and paid) working on the next big thing.
Some day open source developers will replace that, and you'll have already been working on the next next big thing.
Sounds like a good scenario for a business... lead the market, make new products all the time, be known for being innovative and the model for everyone else's software.
The only downside is that you actually have to BE A SOFTWARE COMPANY, instead of the marketing and sales company that many closed source co's turn into... just before they die.
The mark of a good software development company is one that recognizes that writing one app is not the be-all, end-all of your existence. Some day you'll need something else.
Even MS doesn't get to stand still for too long. If they never improved Exchange, we wouldn't use it. If they never improved their OS's (Vista jokes aside), we wouldn't use them. They're not really selling Windows ME + Office 2000 + Windows NT 4.0 anymore. Each of those have been long eclipsed by other software. The only argument left in the marketplace is whether their CURRENT software is good enough to warrant buying it.
Hrm. Where I work we pay a (larger) fee for our satellite TV service, which has XM radio on it, so that we're allowed to pipe it into our in-house audio & video.
I'm pretty sure we haven't had to pay anyone besides DirectTV for the privilege.
It's the same in Chicago suburbs. All the areas around here have curfews for kids. They're just not enforced unless it's clear that someone is, as you said, up to no good.
I suppose my problem with it is not that kids are out, unsupervised, late at night. I dislike the idea of having laws that are selectively enforced. I simply don't have any faith in the discretion of law enforcement.
If we have a law, enforce it. If people have a problem with it, it will be refined or repealed. The wishy-washy stuff just makes it easier to set legal snares that nobody complains about until it's too late.
"Oh yeah, you didn't know we had a law against [insert silliness here]? Too bad, that's your responsibility. Complain to a judge."
I can't keep track of what I am and am not allowed to do as it is.
The issue of power, distance and line-of-sight are all things that are actually big parts of the debate on this.
For instance, if your internet device is in a valley between two hills, and a TV tower is broadcasting on one hill, with a tv viewer on the other, your device may not be able to determine that they're broadcasting there.
The net result is crap internet for you and you've annihilated the TV signal for the person viewing it on the other side of the valley.
The use of internet services for tasks that are typically handled locally. There are a number of good and bad reasons to utilize these services. The big benefits are accessibility, zero maintenance and the security of a large infrastructure you couldn't provide yourself.
In the case of Amazon, they offer processing time, storage, and a few other things.
In the case of Google, you've got Apps... including your collaborative email/calendaring/document sharing services.
In the case of Salesforce, NetSuite, QuickBooks Online, et al, you've got CRM, Accounting, Inventory, etc.
I've seen a lot of Stargate, and if I've learned anything, it's that pretty much all alien life looks like us, develops civilizations nearly identical to our own history, and speaks english.
"To a group of aliens flying through alpha centauri whose civilisation skipped radio and went straight to fibre optic and laser, 2000AD Earth and 200,000BC Earth would be indistinguishable."
BAH! Subspace communication! According to the Asgard, it's the only way to roll... and those guys would know.
I'm inclined to agree because it's the Church of Scientology, but if it were the company I work for taking the website down for a day would be god-awful for us.
Jail time would seem appropriate. Maybe not a 1.5 years + 40k... but jail time.
That's creepy. I see it as far easier to implement concepts like that in Israel where threats are much more likely or frequent.
I just hate the idea that we're talking about subversive behaviors to escape the eyes of our government as if we've just accepted it. I don't want to behave as if I were some sort of criminal just so I can maintain some modicum of personal privacy. It seems the real solution is to make it clear that this situation is unacceptable.
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My symantec corporate edition flags Angry IP Scanner as well.
The biggest ISP at the college I used to go to (not the univeristy itself) used to do this. They'd profile traffic and shut down machines that were spamming or otherwise behaving badly.
The way I see it, it's good for everyone, including the ISP. The only downside was when your roommate had something and your internet got shut off before a paper was due. :)
XP+Office is not your problem. You have something else going on there.
I don't know what businesses you're walking in to, but I haven't seen a VB6 app in about 10 years, and I only work with small businesses.
If I did, I'd replace it, not fight over the OS it runs on.
Eh. I did help desk and minor admin stuff out of HS. After that I did sysadmin and netadmin stuff. Later I decided to try being a programmer. I did well at all of them... but wasn't happy.
Turned out, I want to do ALL of them, not NONE of them. Started working for small businesses only... and now I'm pretty peachy. :)
Some people just need to do something different every day.
You're a special kind of asshole, you know that?
"Send in the Marines!"
He's Army. Send Rangers. :P
I think they're upset that all those Apple people wear turtlenecks. ...I'll be here all week, tip your waitress.
Eh. I don't really understand the question.
Having thought about it, the submitter is disappointed that they must continually develop new, better software products?
How is that a problem? Today, you're selling a simple app that people need. Tomorrow, someone will make a new one, but in the meantime you get to keep your developers busy (and paid) working on the next big thing.
Some day open source developers will replace that, and you'll have already been working on the next next big thing.
Sounds like a good scenario for a business... lead the market, make new products all the time, be known for being innovative and the model for everyone else's software.
The only downside is that you actually have to BE A SOFTWARE COMPANY, instead of the marketing and sales company that many closed source co's turn into... just before they die.
The mark of a good software development company is one that recognizes that writing one app is not the be-all, end-all of your existence. Some day you'll need something else.
Even MS doesn't get to stand still for too long. If they never improved Exchange, we wouldn't use it. If they never improved their OS's (Vista jokes aside), we wouldn't use them. They're not really selling Windows ME + Office 2000 + Windows NT 4.0 anymore. Each of those have been long eclipsed by other software. The only argument left in the marketplace is whether their CURRENT software is good enough to warrant buying it.
Now harness the energy of the water coming down my gutters.
Wow, that's what, $35,000 at $130 per license?
I think I'd be able to sell the boss on a FOSS alt with that kind of price tag. :)
Yeah, we've seen this scam before. They used to do it at BestBuy, etc.
Hello grandmothers out there! Get this awful Acer desktop for just $100!
All you have to do is sign up for 18 years of AOL at $25/mo... and a $500 early cancellation fee.
No, no... we're discouraging that behavior.
Kids, do not put the prom queen in a vacuum chamber! Also avoid her parents bed when you THINK they're on vacation.
Hrm. Where I work we pay a (larger) fee for our satellite TV service, which has XM radio on it, so that we're allowed to pipe it into our in-house audio & video.
I'm pretty sure we haven't had to pay anyone besides DirectTV for the privilege.
It's the same in Chicago suburbs. All the areas around here have curfews for kids. They're just not enforced unless it's clear that someone is, as you said, up to no good.
I suppose my problem with it is not that kids are out, unsupervised, late at night. I dislike the idea of having laws that are selectively enforced. I simply don't have any faith in the discretion of law enforcement.
If we have a law, enforce it. If people have a problem with it, it will be refined or repealed. The wishy-washy stuff just makes it easier to set legal snares that nobody complains about until it's too late.
"Oh yeah, you didn't know we had a law against [insert silliness here]? Too bad, that's your responsibility. Complain to a judge."
I can't keep track of what I am and am not allowed to do as it is.
Oh, and there's a good chance you'll knock out the unlicensed wireless microphone system in the church up the street.
The issue of power, distance and line-of-sight are all things that are actually big parts of the debate on this.
For instance, if your internet device is in a valley between two hills, and a TV tower is broadcasting on one hill, with a tv viewer on the other, your device may not be able to determine that they're broadcasting there.
The net result is crap internet for you and you've annihilated the TV signal for the person viewing it on the other side of the valley.
The use of internet services for tasks that are typically handled locally. There are a number of good and bad reasons to utilize these services. The big benefits are accessibility, zero maintenance and the security of a large infrastructure you couldn't provide yourself.
In the case of Amazon, they offer processing time, storage, and a few other things.
In the case of Google, you've got Apps... including your collaborative email/calendaring/document sharing services.
In the case of Salesforce, NetSuite, QuickBooks Online, et al, you've got CRM, Accounting, Inventory, etc.
"However when folks put weight on these numbers, it is bad."
Is it really that bad, or just wishful thinking?
I've seen a lot of Stargate, and if I've learned anything, it's that pretty much all alien life looks like us, develops civilizations nearly identical to our own history, and speaks english.
You need to do more heavy research!
"To a group of aliens flying through alpha centauri whose civilisation skipped radio and went straight to fibre optic and laser, 2000AD Earth and 200,000BC Earth would be indistinguishable."
BAH! Subspace communication! According to the Asgard, it's the only way to roll... and those guys would know.
I'm inclined to agree because it's the Church of Scientology, but if it were the company I work for taking the website down for a day would be god-awful for us.
Jail time would seem appropriate. Maybe not a 1.5 years + 40k... but jail time.
That's creepy. I see it as far easier to implement concepts like that in Israel where threats are much more likely or frequent.
I just hate the idea that we're talking about subversive behaviors to escape the eyes of our government as if we've just accepted it. I don't want to behave as if I were some sort of criminal just so I can maintain some modicum of personal privacy. It seems the real solution is to make it clear that this situation is unacceptable.
I didn't look at it in Gimp, but it looks like Allen's mouth and jaw were altered.
It learns based on input from people who pick pictures they think are prettier than others.
You don't get to blame the scientist or the software in this case.