That's a cool idea. Why doesn't someone start a US lottery? As far as I know gambling is legal if its non-profit, like how churches do casino nights. Why don't we set up a lottery where the winners get 70% of the winnings, and worthy (proper non-profit) OSS projects get the rest?
Jeeze, a national lottery? It could put a dent in the state lotteries.:)
It was a bit confusing, but apparently this problem has existed in the search engines for years. As I understand it, Site A has a page that does redirects to other sites (usually for legitimate purposes). If you're one of the sites it redirects you to (Site B), google will list your content from the target url with Site A's redirecting page as the url. Then when someone clicks the link on the listing for your site they get the redirect script of Site A. At this point that script COULD contain any kind of craziness.
It seems the best anyone can do about this is to contact google and complain about "302 redirect hijacking".
http://www.google.com/intl/en/contact/security.h tm l
Like I said, most articles I'm finding say the problem has existed for years. There are some suggestions for trying to prevent this from happening to you, or trying to deal with a hijack scenario.
Aside from that, any landline to your house has to be able to dial real 911 (afaik). I'm pretty sure this is mentioned on vonages site somewhere obvious. I remember seeing it there when I considered vonage for service.
I mean, think about it... how would you dial 911 if your internet connection is down? You should always have a regular phone plugged in.
I agree that vonage should be more forthcoming and explicit about THEIR 911 service, but there's always that other option.
Agreed, alot could have been done differently, but I attribute most of it technology moving too fast then to people being mean for the sake of being mean. Of course, everyone acted in their own interests, but what else could we have expected?
Like I was saying, we still don't have a functional answer to the whole question. I think we will need to work out a new technology to deal with it. This technology will have to satisfy both parties, and we don't have anything like that right now.
It may end up meaning something that we can't implement for years... like a personal, worldwide, radio (music library?) system that requires handshake and transmission security. Of course we don't have the infrastructure or the appliances to make this work. I don't know.. someone much smarter than me will have to dream something up.
As for the DMCA, that's a whole 'nother can of worms that needs to get laid out straight some day when everyone isn't being reactionary. People that are for it have legitimate concerns, and people against (myself included) have legitimate concerns. I honestly think that's one that should be much EASIER to solve.
That's interesting. So I guess the big question is, "how do you distribute your copyrighted material in a manner that respects consumer's (former?) rights, but protects you from illegal redistribution of the material"
It seems to me that all the brains in the world (for all their efforts) haven't been able to solve this. Is it really impossible?
I try to imagine myself in the role of the record company or music retailer, and as the consumer.
The demands do seem mutually exclusive. As a company I would demand that my product could not be infinitly resold (or given away) by a consumer.
As a consumer I want the ability to lend my music to my friends or sell what I've purchased to someone else if I don't want it anymore. I also want the ability to modify what I've purchased in any way I choose.
The closest answer I can think of is swift and effective prosecution of illegal distribution, coupled with legal availability of unencumbered music.
Of course, there are all kinds of pitfalls here. For instance, how would they determine which forms of redistribution are legal and which aren't? How could they tell if my friend is borrowing my music and I haven't destroyed my copy? How could they tell if I've transferred my copy to someone else and destroyed my copy? With non-DRR'd formats, they can't... and DRR'd formats void the deal since I have to be able to modify my files any way I like (I want it to work on my xyz player!).
I don't know, can someone think of something better? If the constraints are those mentioned earlier, I can't.
I loved them both. I wonder what ever happened to Don Herbert. Did he die?
On another note, as I get older I've come to see Bill Nye less as a goofy TV character, and have developed alot more respect for him.
It's nice to see the major 24 news networks get him in for more serious discussion. It helps us take him seriously, which is good if he's going to be tackling more adult topics.
No, you're right. The GTA's did very well. I just think that concept is done with. How many times can you pay to beat up a hooker and execute civilians in a video game? Would you really buy another one just like it?
As for the target market, I would say 20 to 30 year olds are probably pretty tired of the GTA scheme by now. I can count on two hands all the people my age that wanted ALL of the GTA's, but I can't begin to name all the teenagers who just ate that shit up. That's not to say that they weren't popular with older crowds, just that I think you grow OUT of that sort of thing after it looses it's shock value, not in to it.
As the video game market broadens to older and older people, and many of them become parents that know to CHECK what they buy their kids, I think we'll actually see less of the super violent games.
OTOH, you're right... I'm not a marketing guy. I'm just telling it as I see it, and could be wrong.
Agreed. I think the GTA horse has been beaten to death, and corpse burned. Nintendo has a long history of producing games that are just fun to play, without shocking people by pushing the envelope of insane violence in videogames.
Alot of the increasingly gory games were fun for a time, but the shock of extreme violence has long since worn off for me. It's time for more games that are just fun to play.
You may be right, but its my experience that tech books are surprisingly reasonable in price. My average textbook in any other field costs >$100, and my tech books are usually in the $40 range. Of course, this could just be that there's less demand for "Financial Accounting" than my PHP or Java books. Dunno, just my experience.
It pisses me off that everyone uses SSN to identify you. My old bank used it over the phone as sole proof of identification before giving you access to your account. I know my dad's ssn, should I be able to PHONE IN and have access his bank account? Just doesn't seem right that anyone uses that, except the irs. Just seems like everyone wants to up the bar for identifiying people, so they started using people's SSN. Now so many people use it that it's not a good technique for identification anymore.
Exactly. Except they probably don't have any interest in buying his ripoff, because Hasbro has already licenced people to create electronic versions of the game. I have one that was made under licence from Hasbro Consumer Products, and was distributed by General Mills (yes, it came in a box of cereal). I don't think they needed his help developing electronic versions or generating interest.
Fedora's "yum" makes dependancy hell a thing of the past, by and large. Just for the record.:)
From the site... "Yum is an automatic updater and package installer/remover for rpm systems. It automatically computes dependencies and figures out what things should occur to install packages. It makes it easier to maintain groups of machines without having to manually update each one using rpm." - http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/
Obviously you consider your market for any product. Obviously religion is something they consider. But like you said, religion really had little to do with it. It was an inflammatory article from the NYTimes. Somehow I'm not surprised.
However, I WOULD bet with you on Dr. Field's interest in Volcanos getting canned.;)
"The number of theaters rejecting such films is small, people in the industry say - perhaps a dozen or fewer, most in the South."
In addition:
"On other criteria, like narration and music, the film did not score as well as other films, Ms. Murray said, and over all, it did not receive high marks, so she recommended that the museum pass."...and then we get a big stink...
'"It's very alarming," he said, "all of this pressure being put on a lot of the public institutions by the fundamentalists."'
Oh, right, it has nothing to do with the fact that he (Dr. Field), "as a science foundation official had a role in the financing of" the production that got canned. His ass is on the line for helping fund a movie that didn't go over well in all respects. Boo hoo.
I say grab a Tv, put a box and a fresna lens over it, project down on table. Then all you need is video out from the laptop and to be able to flip the image. Costs you about $9 at the local bookstore, and you're in a real dark basement anyways.;)
Now I guess the hard part is hanging a tv over your table without killing yourself.
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Open Source will likely have to solve the problems differently than private companies, but the issues aren't a whole lot different.
:)
Has everyone kept up with their EFF donations?
That's a cool idea. Why doesn't someone start a US lottery? As far as I know gambling is legal if its non-profit, like how churches do casino nights. Why don't we set up a lottery where the winners get 70% of the winnings, and worthy (proper non-profit) OSS projects get the rest?
Jeeze, a national lottery? It could put a dent in the state lotteries.
Ahh... how nice. Getting paid to customize knoppix cds. There's a bunch of folks that have their act together.
BTW: I heard that Yahoo will be giving out 1GB accounts starting April.
:)
Yes, we can verify that.
It was a bit confusing, but apparently this problem has existed in the search engines for years. As I understand it, Site A has a page that does redirects to other sites (usually for legitimate purposes). If you're one of the sites it redirects you to (Site B), google will list your content from the target url with Site A's redirecting page as the url. Then when someone clicks the link on the listing for your site they get the redirect script of Site A. At this point that script COULD contain any kind of craziness.
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It seems the best anyone can do about this is to contact google and complain about "302 redirect hijacking".
http://www.google.com/intl/en/contact/security.
Like I said, most articles I'm finding say the problem has existed for years. There are some suggestions for trying to prevent this from happening to you, or trying to deal with a hijack scenario.
http://clsc.net/research/google-302-page-hijack
Aside from that, any landline to your house has to be able to dial real 911 (afaik). I'm pretty sure this is mentioned on vonages site somewhere obvious. I remember seeing it there when I considered vonage for service.
I mean, think about it... how would you dial 911 if your internet connection is down? You should always have a regular phone plugged in.
I agree that vonage should be more forthcoming and explicit about THEIR 911 service, but there's always that other option.
Agreed, alot could have been done differently, but I attribute most of it technology moving too fast then to people being mean for the sake of being mean. Of course, everyone acted in their own interests, but what else could we have expected?
Like I was saying, we still don't have a functional answer to the whole question. I think we will need to work out a new technology to deal with it. This technology will have to satisfy both parties, and we don't have anything like that right now.
It may end up meaning something that we can't implement for years... like a personal, worldwide, radio (music library?) system that requires handshake and transmission security. Of course we don't have the infrastructure or the appliances to make this work. I don't know.. someone much smarter than me will have to dream something up.
As for the DMCA, that's a whole 'nother can of worms that needs to get laid out straight some day when everyone isn't being reactionary. People that are for it have legitimate concerns, and people against (myself included) have legitimate concerns. I honestly think that's one that should be much EASIER to solve.
Shame they can't fine the representatives who waste the people's time and money passing crap legislation like this.
:)
I guess instead of fines we have elections.
Now all we need is for people to actually know (and care) about that gets carried out in their name.
That's interesting. So I guess the big question is, "how do you distribute your copyrighted material in a manner that respects consumer's (former?) rights, but protects you from illegal redistribution of the material"
It seems to me that all the brains in the world (for all their efforts) haven't been able to solve this. Is it really impossible?
I try to imagine myself in the role of the record company or music retailer, and as the consumer.
The demands do seem mutually exclusive. As a company I would demand that my product could not be infinitly resold (or given away) by a consumer.
As a consumer I want the ability to lend my music to my friends or sell what I've purchased to someone else if I don't want it anymore. I also want the ability to modify what I've purchased in any way I choose.
The closest answer I can think of is swift and effective prosecution of illegal distribution, coupled with legal availability of unencumbered music.
Of course, there are all kinds of pitfalls here. For instance, how would they determine which forms of redistribution are legal and which aren't? How could they tell if my friend is borrowing my music and I haven't destroyed my copy? How could they tell if I've transferred my copy to someone else and destroyed my copy? With non-DRR'd formats, they can't... and DRR'd formats void the deal since I have to be able to modify my files any way I like (I want it to work on my xyz player!).
I don't know, can someone think of something better? If the constraints are those mentioned earlier, I can't.
If you can, I'll bet its a bajillion dollar idea.
I loved them both. I wonder what ever happened to Don Herbert. Did he die?
On another note, as I get older I've come to see Bill Nye less as a goofy TV character, and have developed alot more respect for him.
It's nice to see the major 24 news networks get him in for more serious discussion. It helps us take him seriously, which is good if he's going to be tackling more adult topics.
tech books are overpriced, and textbooks are WAY overpriced.
Ok, that I can agree with.
No, you're right. The GTA's did very well. I just think that concept is done with. How many times can you pay to beat up a hooker and execute civilians in a video game? Would you really buy another one just like it?
As for the target market, I would say 20 to 30 year olds are probably pretty tired of the GTA scheme by now. I can count on two hands all the people my age that wanted ALL of the GTA's, but I can't begin to name all the teenagers who just ate that shit up. That's not to say that they weren't popular with older crowds, just that I think you grow OUT of that sort of thing after it looses it's shock value, not in to it.
As the video game market broadens to older and older people, and many of them become parents that know to CHECK what they buy their kids, I think we'll actually see less of the super violent games.
OTOH, you're right... I'm not a marketing guy. I'm just telling it as I see it, and could be wrong.
Agreed. I think the GTA horse has been beaten to death, and corpse burned. Nintendo has a long history of producing games that are just fun to play, without shocking people by pushing the envelope of insane violence in videogames.
Alot of the increasingly gory games were fun for a time, but the shock of extreme violence has long since worn off for me. It's time for more games that are just fun to play.
You may be right, but its my experience that tech books are surprisingly reasonable in price. My average textbook in any other field costs >$100, and my tech books are usually in the $40 range. Of course, this could just be that there's less demand for "Financial Accounting" than my PHP or Java books. Dunno, just my experience.
DO NOT GIVE OUT YOUR SSN TO ANYONE.
It pisses me off that everyone uses SSN to identify you. My old bank used it over the phone as sole proof of identification before giving you access to your account. I know my dad's ssn, should I be able to PHONE IN and have access his bank account? Just doesn't seem right that anyone uses that, except the irs. Just seems like everyone wants to up the bar for identifiying people, so they started using people's SSN. Now so many people use it that it's not a good technique for identification anymore.
Dear lord, that's insane. I'm so glad I'm not in the market for a vid card right now. ;)
Exactly. Except they probably don't have any interest in buying his ripoff, because Hasbro has already licenced people to create electronic versions of the game. I have one that was made under licence from Hasbro Consumer Products, and was distributed by General Mills (yes, it came in a box of cereal). I don't think they needed his help developing electronic versions or generating interest.
Fedora's "yum" makes dependancy hell a thing of the past, by and large. Just for the record. :)
From the site...
"Yum is an automatic updater and package installer/remover for rpm systems. It automatically computes dependencies and figures out what things should occur to install packages. It makes it easier to maintain groups of machines without having to manually update each one using rpm." - http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/
The laptop is indeed ugly. The table case the other guy made is beautiful (IMHO). He clearly spent alot of time building it right.
Absolutely.
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And if you're looking for something to feed your marketing department, check out the applications for certification on major distro vendor's sites.
Mandrake: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/hardware.php3
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RedHat:
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/hwcert/
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Those processes will probably get you a shiny logo for your product's box.
I think we're on the same page, actually.
Obviously you consider your market for any product. Obviously religion is something they consider. But like you said, religion really had little to do with it. It was an inflammatory article from the NYTimes. Somehow I'm not surprised.
However, I WOULD bet with you on Dr. Field's interest in Volcanos getting canned.
Ok, how about a little perspective...
...and then we get a big stink...
"The number of theaters rejecting such films is small, people in the industry say - perhaps a dozen or fewer, most in the South."
In addition:
"On other criteria, like narration and music, the film did not score as well as other films, Ms. Murray said, and over all, it did not receive high marks, so she recommended that the museum pass."
'"It's very alarming," he said, "all of this pressure being put on a lot of the public institutions by the fundamentalists."'
Oh, right, it has nothing to do with the fact that he (Dr. Field), "as a science foundation official had a role in the financing of" the production that got canned. His ass is on the line for helping fund a movie that didn't go over well in all respects. Boo hoo.
That's a truly frightening story. Fortunatly, I haven't encountered that yet in school.
As for the gov intervention thing, don't we have false advertising laws that would cover this?
You're probably right, but I'd like to think 0.x% is possible.
Afterall, the campaign should be simple.
"If ANYONE, EVER asks for a personal password, report it to I.T. and building security immediately."
Hang posters above the urinals, on the walls, in every cubicle... just to drive it home.
I say grab a Tv, put a box and a fresna lens over it, project down on table. Then all you need is video out from the laptop and to be able to flip the image. Costs you about $9 at the local bookstore, and you're in a real dark basement anyways. ;)
Now I guess the hard part is hanging a tv over your table without killing yourself.