You are looking at it wrong. Don't think about it as $70K in money, with inflation and competition, and keeping up with the Jone's, but simply a pile of resources equivalent to what $70K will buy. Once you hit that point, you have access to decent medical care, plenty of varied quality food, the ability to go on a nice vacation once in a while, private personal transportation, a fairly nice/comfortable home, and the ability to raise a family with 2-3 kids without wanting for too much.
That would all be without doing a thing to earn it. After a generation or three you'd have quite the pile of capital (property) for each and every family. Which would lead to a VERY comfortable lifestyle. Throw in a little personal industry. Upgrading your home, landscaping, a small business etc. People would be quite wealthy even by today's standards.
Probably what they had was more like the happiness theories that at the time found people stopped gaining happiness around $70,000 a year of income just from the income. You wouldn't need a ridiculous amount of resources to bring the population up to that level and keep most of the sheep happy. After that it became self improvement. STNG had an episode about that.
After that things became scarce and quick. Wanted to be in Star Fleet and be a Captain of a starship, well you worked your ass off. Want your own ship and bypass SF, you were also going to have to work your ass off, and be smart enough to obtain or build your own, much less maintain and pilot one, but it wasn't something the average person could accomplish and obviously the world government wasn't just handing them out for free else we would have been seeing a lot more examples of "Red Neck Yacht Club" in space.
The other thing that they didn't get into but I'm sure was a thing was the right to have children. I'm positive they'd have some sort of licensing requirement before you could have more than say a single child, else the hoods of the world would have been overflowing with feral children.
There is a 1st world standard assumed if they are able to comment in English on/.
He has a very good point. You can pick up an old 30ft sail boat for well under $10,000 and outfit it with enough gear to go as far out to sea as you want. I've been tossing around the idea myself since I've managed to get to a place financially that I can retire at age 44. The things that are holding me back are exactly what he has stated. Comfort and security.
It is a very nice analogy for the future space ship pilot willing to sail outside of the local bay (solar system).
Never understood with energy being near free and materials being near free, why wasn't everyone and their cousin flying around in space ships, unless of course the government squashed any thoughts about having your own star ship and only properly certified and licensed captains could fly them. Don't like it, then join Star Fleet....here see if this red shirt fits.
Yes and no. Most States have unconstitutional bans on swords and long knives. There are groups that are actively pursuing legal action to pull them down.
Here in Florida a CWP covers big knives (and a bunch of other things) but I think the max length is 13 inches.
If you are going to have a retard theft based (taxes) welfare system the best way to do it is just give everyone a check and get rid of 99% of the bureaucrats needed to run it.
That being said what a fucking STUPID idea. Its hard enough to get people to get off their ass and work now, and you are going to treat adults like spoiled children by giving them an allowance expecting nothing in return?!
Here is a crazy idea if you don't work, you don't eat. Want a basic living allowance? Then you need to work 40 hours a week at a job, any job. There is trash that needs to be picked up on the side of the road and public toilets everywhere that need to be scrubbed.
I personally see nothing wrong with letting people suffer as a form of motivation. A friend's dad had a saying that makes perfect sense to me now in my old age.
"You do kick a man when he is down. It gives him motivation to get back up."
It's insane to think giving money and benefits to a person sitting on their ass things will get them to get going again. It's very comfortable sitting on your ass, even when it is on the ground.
The tipping point for me won't be an electric car, but an electric 4x4 truck. Then there won't be much of an incentive to come into town except to restock the beer and ammo once in a while.
Eventually we reach a point where it becomes possible to provide everyone with enough to live comfortably at no cost to anyone else.
And why would anyone do that? I own my own robots that grow food, make stuff, and provide security. The smelly homeless guy in the street expects me to shelter, cloth, and feed him? ROBOTS SHOW THIS TRASH TO THE CURB!!
Sure there will be plenty of charity types who will do the good work, but society as a whole will eventual get sick of those that can't or worse.....wont. With robots as weapons I can see the wonts pushed out pretty hard.
Essentially there will be no need for the bottom %'s. Those is power will bribe or force those at the bottom to stop breeding. Eventually the world will be filled with nothing but the top percent. Is this a bad thing? Maybe may be not depends on your philosophy.
"Hasn't it been proven that austerity measures don't work anyways?"
What austerity? They reduced the amount of money they were spending, but it was still more than they were taking in taxes. That's like only adding $1000 a month on your credit card instead of $2000. Ooooo looky I "cut" spending. Kind of like Obama and Congress here in the States.
The flip side of austerity is if you are unwilling to cut spending you have to make more money to pay the debt. The Greek people are unwilling to work nor are they willing to pay more, so they now have their current mess.
All that has been proven is that you should never loan money to dead beats and expect to be paid back.
"Funny fact" People die because that's what people eventually do after they are born. History is filled with deaths of billions of people. It's sort of normal. Now if you are suggesting the budgets are out rioting in the street murdering people then I would agree with you they probably need to be stopped. Since that is not the case I think your bias is showing.
The Greek people need to pull their collective heads out of their collective asses or they will starve, and die off, until they do. There is no free lunch. No one owes them a god damn thing. Grow up and stop behaving like socialists.
You also have to have a decent place to plug it in. Most people do not have a convenient 110 plug right next to the car, much less a 220 plug, in their garage. That is if they can even get it in the garage with all the junk they have in there.
You first clue should be the word "Chevy" there are a great many of us who will NEVER buy a GM product again just on principle. Second, it's a dog for $35K. I could go get a much nicer car for the same price that has better performance and similar fuel economy. Third GM isn't exactly known for quality work. I wouldn't know anymore because I'll never make it past the 1st reason.
You know that whole pooling of massive amounts of wealth over generations would apply to you too if the government didn't step in and take half of it while you make it and then another half after you die.
At 8% interest and $25 a month from the month you are born till you are age 72 you would be a multi-millionaire.
Or you just look at the post it note on my wall by the door with the guest logon Wi-Fi password. You can connect to the internet, but you still have no access to my network..
STEM toys? Here is a crazy idea, stop buying them little Suzy homemaker/power shrew (empowered business woman)/street whore make over kits and maybe they'll do something more that goes beyond their visual appearance and the ability of their vagina to convert sperm into child support payments.
Instead buy them LEGOs, any of a dozen sand box builder games, model rockets, remote controlled drones, e-readers (loaded with lot's of post apocalypse/Sci-Fi books)DLS cameras/Go-Pros, tools and art supplies, 3D printers, etc.
The other is to smack them when they try to sign up for the social sciences and make them instead take Algebra, Geometry, Trig, Calculus, Physics, Shop/Maker classes, Chemistry, Engineering, tech trades, and other course work that takes a bit more brain power than what is required to regurgitate Fem-Nazi social Marxist talking points.
If you like a an expensive place packed with people, few of which speak actual English, where the most interesting things Culturally are literally hundreds of years old then yeah London might be the town for you. I liked it. Lot's of money there, the beer was great, the temperature was bearable, and very touristy. Other than that? I'm but it's no better than any other city.
On the plus side it does look like you internet prices have drop substantially since I lived there last. Nice!
when their conception of freedom has absolutely nothing to do with actual freedom, and are really the rationalizations of immature children who either are
1. maliciously trying to avoid the consequences of their actions, or
2. are so fucking ignorant they don't understand their actions even have consequences
You just described every Liberal/Socialist that has ever existed.
Cool. Now I just need to make enough money to buy beer. Rent is covered, cell phone is covered, food is covered, health care is covered, school is covered, bussing is covered and now porn and video games are covered.
"I need a job!" said no guy ever once he figured out how to sign up for all this free stuff.
Musk hurry the fuck up with that Mars Colony already, or somebody get the zombie apocalypse rolling the level of stupid on planet Earth is reaching critical mass.
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That would all be without doing a thing to earn it. After a generation or three you'd have quite the pile of capital (property) for each and every family. Which would lead to a VERY comfortable lifestyle. Throw in a little personal industry. Upgrading your home, landscaping, a small business etc. People would be quite wealthy even by today's standards.
After that things became scarce and quick. Wanted to be in Star Fleet and be a Captain of a starship, well you worked your ass off. Want your own ship and bypass SF, you were also going to have to work your ass off, and be smart enough to obtain or build your own, much less maintain and pilot one, but it wasn't something the average person could accomplish and obviously the world government wasn't just handing them out for free else we would have been seeing a lot more examples of "Red Neck Yacht Club" in space.
The other thing that they didn't get into but I'm sure was a thing was the right to have children. I'm positive they'd have some sort of licensing requirement before you could have more than say a single child, else the hoods of the world would have been overflowing with feral children.
Some days I want my own planet, but I would be satisfied with a space ship and a moon base.
Sad that there are that many stupid people still allowed to walk around unattended in public.
He has a very good point. You can pick up an old 30ft sail boat for well under $10,000 and outfit it with enough gear to go as far out to sea as you want. I've been tossing around the idea myself since I've managed to get to a place financially that I can retire at age 44. The things that are holding me back are exactly what he has stated. Comfort and security.
It is a very nice analogy for the future space ship pilot willing to sail outside of the local bay (solar system).
Apple TV? That still a thing? And what ever Plex is. I guess the 13 people, that have an Apple TV will be happy for something new.
Never understood with energy being near free and materials being near free, why wasn't everyone and their cousin flying around in space ships, unless of course the government squashed any thoughts about having your own star ship and only properly certified and licensed captains could fly them. Don't like it, then join Star Fleet....here see if this red shirt fits.
I want a car, not a phone with wheels. Phones go in your pocket.
Here in Florida a CWP covers big knives (and a bunch of other things) but I think the max length is 13 inches.
That being said what a fucking STUPID idea. Its hard enough to get people to get off their ass and work now, and you are going to treat adults like spoiled children by giving them an allowance expecting nothing in return?!
Here is a crazy idea if you don't work, you don't eat. Want a basic living allowance? Then you need to work 40 hours a week at a job, any job. There is trash that needs to be picked up on the side of the road and public toilets everywhere that need to be scrubbed.
I personally see nothing wrong with letting people suffer as a form of motivation. A friend's dad had a saying that makes perfect sense to me now in my old age.
"You do kick a man when he is down. It gives him motivation to get back up."
It's insane to think giving money and benefits to a person sitting on their ass things will get them to get going again. It's very comfortable sitting on your ass, even when it is on the ground.
The tipping point for me won't be an electric car, but an electric 4x4 truck. Then there won't be much of an incentive to come into town except to restock the beer and ammo once in a while.
Looks like the NRA has some more work to do, since someone will try to ban this too.
And why would anyone do that? I own my own robots that grow food, make stuff, and provide security. The smelly homeless guy in the street expects me to shelter, cloth, and feed him? ROBOTS SHOW THIS TRASH TO THE CURB!!
Sure there will be plenty of charity types who will do the good work, but society as a whole will eventual get sick of those that can't or worse.....wont. With robots as weapons I can see the wonts pushed out pretty hard.
Essentially there will be no need for the bottom %'s. Those is power will bribe or force those at the bottom to stop breeding. Eventually the world will be filled with nothing but the top percent. Is this a bad thing? Maybe may be not depends on your philosophy.
Who gives a shit about growing food in the city. I just don't want to be stuck eating only potatoes on Mars.
What austerity? They reduced the amount of money they were spending, but it was still more than they were taking in taxes. That's like only adding $1000 a month on your credit card instead of $2000. Ooooo looky I "cut" spending. Kind of like Obama and Congress here in the States.
The flip side of austerity is if you are unwilling to cut spending you have to make more money to pay the debt. The Greek people are unwilling to work nor are they willing to pay more, so they now have their current mess.
All that has been proven is that you should never loan money to dead beats and expect to be paid back.
The Greek people need to pull their collective heads out of their collective asses or they will starve, and die off, until they do. There is no free lunch. No one owes them a god damn thing. Grow up and stop behaving like socialists.
You also have to have a decent place to plug it in. Most people do not have a convenient 110 plug right next to the car, much less a 220 plug, in their garage. That is if they can even get it in the garage with all the junk they have in there.
You first clue should be the word "Chevy" there are a great many of us who will NEVER buy a GM product again just on principle. Second, it's a dog for $35K. I could go get a much nicer car for the same price that has better performance and similar fuel economy. Third GM isn't exactly known for quality work. I wouldn't know anymore because I'll never make it past the 1st reason.
Show me an electric 4x4 truck under $50K that is as good or better than the gas ones and I'll take one tomorrow. The End.
At 8% interest and $25 a month from the month you are born till you are age 72 you would be a multi-millionaire.
Or you just look at the post it note on my wall by the door with the guest logon Wi-Fi password. You can connect to the internet, but you still have no access to my network..
Instead buy them LEGOs, any of a dozen sand box builder games, model rockets, remote controlled drones, e-readers (loaded with lot's of post apocalypse/Sci-Fi books)DLS cameras/Go-Pros, tools and art supplies, 3D printers, etc. The other is to smack them when they try to sign up for the social sciences and make them instead take Algebra, Geometry, Trig, Calculus, Physics, Shop/Maker classes, Chemistry, Engineering, tech trades, and other course work that takes a bit more brain power than what is required to regurgitate Fem-Nazi social Marxist talking points.
On the plus side it does look like you internet prices have drop substantially since I lived there last. Nice!
You just described every Liberal/Socialist that has ever existed.
"I need a job!" said no guy ever once he figured out how to sign up for all this free stuff.
Musk hurry the fuck up with that Mars Colony already, or somebody get the zombie apocalypse rolling the level of stupid on planet Earth is reaching critical mass.