You are correct, instead of running the wires, just run a length of string/cord through, that way later if you decide you want a run then just tie it off and pull it through. Don't forget to add another piece of cord along with the cable you are running!
( Sigh)I wasn't hunting for equal opposites for the comments. What I was hunting for were equally asinine comments from the opposite end of the opinion spectrum. Different concepts.
Nice generalization there. I want food stamps gutted, but I'm all for sex education and for mandatory family planning (you want a welfare check, swallow this pill first).
The religious right that you disparage is exactly the same people who pine for the welfare state; the only difference is they worship different masters. Both groups should be despised for the scum that they are.
I firmly believe you should help children and people in crisis, but for long term idiocy I am all for freedom, as in you have the right to starve to death if you refuse to change.
A welfare mom with 5 kids has proved on 5 seperate occassions she is either too incompentent to make rational decisions or is willfull choosing to have them to gain free support. Either way she is not a fit parent.
I believe in eating what you kill, and hippies probably taste nasty.
Comparing PETA ppl to hippies is an insult to hippies.
I do think though that PETA should have a vetting process before they allow a new member in. Drop the pedge 100 miles into say the Alaskan wilderness with a small survival pack, a large knife, a compass, and a hardy "good luck". If they make it back, then they have earned the right to be a rightious douche bag. If they don't then they can die knowing that they helped by "contributing" to nature.
Banned books? I'm thinking that fall in the catagory of "who cares" anymore. In my time they hardly read anything anyway, and all the "classics" I had to read were painfully bad, which almost killed what I thought was the more important aspect anyway, teaching teaching children to love reading.
A ban now is pretty much hopeless. Amazon will sell you just about anything that exists and what they don't sell for a few dollars can be found elsewhere on the internet for the high price of your time and an internet connection.
This just in. Teenagers don't want to hang out with their parents or older relatives.
Guess what, that will always be the case. MySpace died a grizly death as soon as Moms everywhere started dropping friend requests. Facebook is pretty much just the lazy person's way of sending email/IM. It's cool to be able to see what people are up to, but I find myself using it less and less as time goes on.
The new systems shut off the connection to the grid if there is no electricity coming in. Also here in Tampa, FL you have to have a cutout switch mounted next to your meter so they can kill power just in case it doesn't.
Solar instalations require a shut off box at the utilitiy meter for the solar. The gride connection does not always have an outdoor shutoff point. That is here in Florida in Tampa.
I wonder if the someone can use the excess energy to fill a tank to high pressure, and then release the pressure to generate electricity during the night?
Look up experiments with presurizing underground caves. They've been fooling with this for a while now. You could do this in your own house with a big storage tank, but that would destroy your house if it every failed. Look up pictures of aircraft where the cabin air pressure systems have failed (exploded) or scuba tanks have blown up. They go off like bombs.
Sure it's unfair for company A that company B is able to avoid the taxes that A has to pay, but what is not fair is neither A nor B is paying the tax, the entire burden is on the customer.
Also, learn some basic accounting. Companies "don't want $1000 profit". They want to maximize profit.
You make me sad. Basic accounting has nothing to do with economics. Accounting is just the basic math and methods used to represent activity in an account.
Of course companies want to "maximize profits", but it's really hard to show the mechanics of what goes on with a moving target like "maximized profits". I picked $1000 profit per car as my imaginary company's profit goal to make the math easy. The point is still valid even if the company is shooting for $1000000000 in profit per car or $.01, or even $0.
Corporate taxes must be rolled into the cost of an item and is only paid by the consumer. It is not paid by the company.
The average person barely understands supply and demand, so I left that out of the example. The basic concept I was trying to show was how, when all things were kept equal, companies do not pay corporate taxes, the consumers do.
I'm well aware of macro/micro economics and price affects on sales. I kept all things equal to keep from over complicating the example.
I'm aware that all companies seek to reduce costs. People seem to have a lack of understanding of what the effect is on price and why cost reductions hardly ever seem to make it to the consumer.
Combined State and Fedeal income and corporate taxes are at historic lows. The layers of all the crap at the city, county, state, and federal levels are at all time highs.
You go to work and get your meager $10 an hour and after working your 28hour week you just want to go for a drive and maybe catch a movie . You end up paying $1.50 in taxes/royalties to the State and Fed for the fuel in it. You pay a licensing fee to have a license. You pay a registration fee for plates. In most areas now you get to pay a road toll on the way home. You pay a tire disposal fee and an oil disposal fee. Don't forget the smog check up in many states. If it's an import you are paying 25% inport tarrif on the vehicle if it was built outside the US. Don't forget to laddle on the corporate taxes that are baked into the price of your car, and lastly the sales tax when you bought it, and if you are really lucky to live in St Louis or other areas of extreme asininess an anual property tax (in addition to your plates). Don't forget the property taxes on your house (included in your rent elsewhere) to pay for the local roads. We haven't even gotten into the taxes for labor that went in the car (social security, medicare, medicade, federal/state income taxes) and import taxes on raw materials and finished components. Don't forget those same social security, medicare, medicage and income taxes came out of your paycheck too befre you even had a chance to spend it.
When you add all those hidden taxes up you are sitting on an average tax rate of 50+% in the states for that money you spent on your car. The difference with the earlier "confiscatory" taxes in history and the so called "light" taxes of today, is one the historical taxes were straight up in your face and only applied to the wealthy. The "light" taxes of today are baked into everything around you and apply to EVERYONE.
Those $30,000 cars all the milenials can't afford to buy would be around $15,000 if the gov't would get their hands out of everyone's pocket.
The other half is the infrastructure (roads, internet, electricity, etc) built by the Italian govt. that makes it possible for an Italian to purchase something from the internet. How is Italian govt being compensated for this cost?
Well first off did the Italian gov't put the infrastructure in in the first place, or was it a private company? If they did I assume their is some sort of service fee (tax) on ISP service. There they got paid, but wait really what the gov't wants is more taxes above and beyond what it costs to run the infrastructure, what they want is a piece of the value people are creating using the infrastructure. That is what in classical terms is called theft aka regular ol taxes.
You seem to be missing about 3 paragraphs of explanation as to why I am wrong.
I weep that man has hunted the sabre tooth cat to extinction. The true loss is not that a beautiful, majestic preditor has vanished from the face of the Earth, but that it's departure has allowed mental giants such as yourself florish and multiply.
You missed my entire point. Corporations don't pay taxes, their customers do. The gov't could charge 99% taxes, the company would still get their set profit and the customer would pay the tax.
Taxing just the profits doesn't change a thing. Do the math.
If the gov't charge 10% tax on "profits" and the company wanted $1000 per car profit, how much more profit would they need to make to get the $1000 after the 10% tax. The answer is $1,111.11. (Most people can't solve these simple word problems, which is sad.)
The gov't gets their 10% 111.11 and the company bags $1000. So who paid the tax? The customer did because either he had to pay $111.11 more or lost out on getting the car for $111.11 less.
Yes the company could have just kept that $111.11 for themselves, but then they could have used for investments (better facilities = cheaper products), research (better, faster, more fuel efficient cars), or profits for the owners (pension payouts and other stock investors).
Almost every other corporate entity pays their dues to society in some place
Someday people are going to finish school with a basic understanding of math and logic.
It is logically impossible for a corporation to pay taxes.
Let's make up an imaginary company that makes cars which have the following costs.
$1000 for materials
$1000 for employee wages/benefits
$1000 for facilities
$1000 for developement
and since they are evil
$0 for taxes
So that car costs $4000 to build and the company wants $1000 for profits so the car ends up going for $5000
Now the gov't closes all the loopholes they were using not to pay taxes and charges $1000 per car in tax
So yay the evil corporation is now paying $1000 in tax and not making evil profits. A company that makes no money does not stay in business very long, so they look to slash costs as fast as they can else people will sell their stock and the value of the company will tank.
So first thing out of the gate they slash payroll. Sorry guys everything else is in on contract or is not liquid like buildings and spare parts. Next the company implements a few efficiency programs and drives down the materials costs and sells off a few buildings. The budget for product development is chopped and finally they raise the price of the car by $100 because the market won't tollerate a $1000 jump.
$975 materials
$750 employee pay/benefits
$975 facilities
$750 development
$1000 taxes yay!!!
$100 price increase
Total $4550 with the new car price now $5100
$550 Profits - wait a second?! We wanted to tax them a $1000 per car that's not right they should have at most $100 in profits.
Hold on it get's better. The next year the company closes 1-2 of the factories and ships them overseas and automates a third along with another $100 bump in price.
$850 materials - less environmental rules to follow overseas, no import tax
$500 employee pay/benefits - overseas labor=cheaper - more machines = few people
$1100 facilities - new buildings cost money
$750 development
$1000 taxes
$100 price increase $5200 car now
$900 profit
Year 3 they just coast with a $100 price bump they are back to the $1000 profit margin per car. So who actually paid the tax? Did the corporation? Sort of for about 3 years. Did the laid off employees pay for it? No but they lost their jobs, but that would have happened anyway with innovation. Did the consumer who wanted the car essentially eat the entire tax. Yep. But wait the price for the consumer only went up $300 for the car, how did he end up paying the entire $1000? Because the government stole $1000 worth of innovation from the company which eventually would have been passed on to the consumer due to competition. Sure the company would have pocketed the bonus profits at first, as they should have for coming up with a better way of doing things, but eventually they would have had to lower their prices to compete in the market. So in the end what should have happened is the price of the car should have dropped to around $4300, but instead it rose to $5300. With inflation that number would be more like $5450 which is a whole another ball of wax of government theft.
Sure the government can go in and fool with regulations and taxes to put more burdens on the company, but eventually they'll figure out a way around them and again the consumer is left holding the bag, with the gov't stealling the profits that should have gone to the consumer in the form of price reductions. If a company can't then they lose money and eventually go under, or in the case with many "crucial" industries end up getting bailed out making the problem worse.
Corporate taxes are the worst kind of low brow, stupid, shoot yourself in your own foot while trying to dump the bill on someone else form of wish full thinking politicians use to pander to a willfully ignorant public who think they are getting something for nothing.
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You are correct, instead of running the wires, just run a length of string/cord through, that way later if you decide you want a run then just tie it off and pull it through. Don't forget to add another piece of cord along with the cable you are running!
( Sigh)I wasn't hunting for equal opposites for the comments. What I was hunting for were equally asinine comments from the opposite end of the opinion spectrum. Different concepts.
"There's global warming because it's hot."
"I'm poor because someone else is richer than me."
"I can't be racist because I'm black."
The religious right that you disparage is exactly the same people who pine for the welfare state; the only difference is they worship different masters. Both groups should be despised for the scum that they are.
I firmly believe you should help children and people in crisis, but for long term idiocy I am all for freedom, as in you have the right to starve to death if you refuse to change.
A welfare mom with 5 kids has proved on 5 seperate occassions she is either too incompentent to make rational decisions or is willfull choosing to have them to gain free support. Either way she is not a fit parent.
Anti-trust is not synonymous with anti-business that are jerks and stupid heads.
Yay FIOS.
Comparing PETA ppl to hippies is an insult to hippies.
I do think though that PETA should have a vetting process before they allow a new member in. Drop the pedge 100 miles into say the Alaskan wilderness with a small survival pack, a large knife, a compass, and a hardy "good luck". If they make it back, then they have earned the right to be a rightious douche bag. If they don't then they can die knowing that they helped by "contributing" to nature.
Let people hunt members of PETA?
A ban now is pretty much hopeless. Amazon will sell you just about anything that exists and what they don't sell for a few dollars can be found elsewhere on the internet for the high price of your time and an internet connection.
Climate scientists on their way to study Global Warming, get stuck in the ice. They must have kicked a puppy to have karma that bad.
Guess what, that will always be the case. MySpace died a grizly death as soon as Moms everywhere started dropping friend requests. Facebook is pretty much just the lazy person's way of sending email/IM. It's cool to be able to see what people are up to, but I find myself using it less and less as time goes on.
They could just post videos on the web just like everyone else. Last time I checked its not exactly expensive to do.
Karma (and Mother Nature) is a bitch ain't she?
The new systems shut off the connection to the grid if there is no electricity coming in. Also here in Tampa, FL you have to have a cutout switch mounted next to your meter so they can kill power just in case it doesn't.
Solar instalations require a shut off box at the utilitiy meter for the solar. The gride connection does not always have an outdoor shutoff point. That is here in Florida in Tampa.
Look up experiments with presurizing underground caves. They've been fooling with this for a while now. You could do this in your own house with a big storage tank, but that would destroy your house if it every failed. Look up pictures of aircraft where the cabin air pressure systems have failed (exploded) or scuba tanks have blown up. They go off like bombs.
Also, learn some basic accounting. Companies "don't want $1000 profit". They want to maximize profit.
You make me sad. Basic accounting has nothing to do with economics. Accounting is just the basic math and methods used to represent activity in an account.
Of course companies want to "maximize profits", but it's really hard to show the mechanics of what goes on with a moving target like "maximized profits". I picked $1000 profit per car as my imaginary company's profit goal to make the math easy. The point is still valid even if the company is shooting for $1000000000 in profit per car or $.01, or even $0.
Corporate taxes must be rolled into the cost of an item and is only paid by the consumer. It is not paid by the company.
The average person barely understands supply and demand, so I left that out of the example. The basic concept I was trying to show was how, when all things were kept equal, companies do not pay corporate taxes, the consumers do.
I'm aware that all companies seek to reduce costs. People seem to have a lack of understanding of what the effect is on price and why cost reductions hardly ever seem to make it to the consumer.
You go to work and get your meager $10 an hour and after working your 28hour week you just want to go for a drive and maybe catch a movie . You end up paying $1.50 in taxes/royalties to the State and Fed for the fuel in it. You pay a licensing fee to have a license. You pay a registration fee for plates. In most areas now you get to pay a road toll on the way home. You pay a tire disposal fee and an oil disposal fee. Don't forget the smog check up in many states. If it's an import you are paying 25% inport tarrif on the vehicle if it was built outside the US. Don't forget to laddle on the corporate taxes that are baked into the price of your car, and lastly the sales tax when you bought it, and if you are really lucky to live in St Louis or other areas of extreme asininess an anual property tax (in addition to your plates). Don't forget the property taxes on your house (included in your rent elsewhere) to pay for the local roads. We haven't even gotten into the taxes for labor that went in the car (social security, medicare, medicade, federal/state income taxes) and import taxes on raw materials and finished components. Don't forget those same social security, medicare, medicage and income taxes came out of your paycheck too befre you even had a chance to spend it.
When you add all those hidden taxes up you are sitting on an average tax rate of 50+% in the states for that money you spent on your car. The difference with the earlier "confiscatory" taxes in history and the so called "light" taxes of today, is one the historical taxes were straight up in your face and only applied to the wealthy. The "light" taxes of today are baked into everything around you and apply to EVERYONE.
Those $30,000 cars all the milenials can't afford to buy would be around $15,000 if the gov't would get their hands out of everyone's pocket.
Well first off did the Italian gov't put the infrastructure in in the first place, or was it a private company? If they did I assume their is some sort of service fee (tax) on ISP service. There they got paid, but wait really what the gov't wants is more taxes above and beyond what it costs to run the infrastructure, what they want is a piece of the value people are creating using the infrastructure. That is what in classical terms is called theft aka regular ol taxes.
US/Europe " You owe us taxes!!"
Google "Feel free to stop by our Mars headquarters and pick up your check....lol"
US/Europe "Hey China can we catch a ride with you?"
China "Go fuck yourselves"
US/Europe "Damn"
I weep that man has hunted the sabre tooth cat to extinction. The true loss is not that a beautiful, majestic preditor has vanished from the face of the Earth, but that it's departure has allowed mental giants such as yourself florish and multiply.
Taxing just the profits doesn't change a thing. Do the math.
If the gov't charge 10% tax on "profits" and the company wanted $1000 per car profit, how much more profit would they need to make to get the $1000 after the 10% tax. The answer is $1,111.11. (Most people can't solve these simple word problems, which is sad.)
The gov't gets their 10% 111.11 and the company bags $1000. So who paid the tax? The customer did because either he had to pay $111.11 more or lost out on getting the car for $111.11 less.
Yes the company could have just kept that $111.11 for themselves, but then they could have used for investments (better facilities = cheaper products), research (better, faster, more fuel efficient cars), or profits for the owners (pension payouts and other stock investors).
Someday people are going to finish school with a basic understanding of math and logic.
It is logically impossible for a corporation to pay taxes.
Let's make up an imaginary company that makes cars which have the following costs.
$1000 for materials
$1000 for employee wages/benefits
$1000 for facilities
$1000 for developement
and since they are evil
$0 for taxes
So that car costs $4000 to build and the company wants $1000 for profits so the car ends up going for $5000
Now the gov't closes all the loopholes they were using not to pay taxes and charges $1000 per car in tax
So yay the evil corporation is now paying $1000 in tax and not making evil profits. A company that makes no money does not stay in business very long, so they look to slash costs as fast as they can else people will sell their stock and the value of the company will tank.
So first thing out of the gate they slash payroll. Sorry guys everything else is in on contract or is not liquid like buildings and spare parts. Next the company implements a few efficiency programs and drives down the materials costs and sells off a few buildings. The budget for product development is chopped and finally they raise the price of the car by $100 because the market won't tollerate a $1000 jump.
$975 materials
$750 employee pay/benefits
$975 facilities
$750 development
$1000 taxes yay!!!
$100 price increase
Total $4550 with the new car price now $5100
$550 Profits - wait a second?! We wanted to tax them a $1000 per car that's not right they should have at most $100 in profits.
Hold on it get's better. The next year the company closes 1-2 of the factories and ships them overseas and automates a third along with another $100 bump in price.
$850 materials - less environmental rules to follow overseas, no import tax
$500 employee pay/benefits - overseas labor=cheaper - more machines = few people
$1100 facilities - new buildings cost money
$750 development
$1000 taxes
$100 price increase $5200 car now
$900 profit
Year 3 they just coast with a $100 price bump they are back to the $1000 profit margin per car. So who actually paid the tax? Did the corporation? Sort of for about 3 years. Did the laid off employees pay for it? No but they lost their jobs, but that would have happened anyway with innovation. Did the consumer who wanted the car essentially eat the entire tax. Yep. But wait the price for the consumer only went up $300 for the car, how did he end up paying the entire $1000? Because the government stole $1000 worth of innovation from the company which eventually would have been passed on to the consumer due to competition. Sure the company would have pocketed the bonus profits at first, as they should have for coming up with a better way of doing things, but eventually they would have had to lower their prices to compete in the market. So in the end what should have happened is the price of the car should have dropped to around $4300, but instead it rose to $5300. With inflation that number would be more like $5450 which is a whole another ball of wax of government theft.
Sure the government can go in and fool with regulations and taxes to put more burdens on the company, but eventually they'll figure out a way around them and again the consumer is left holding the bag, with the gov't stealling the profits that should have gone to the consumer in the form of price reductions. If a company can't then they lose money and eventually go under, or in the case with many "crucial" industries end up getting bailed out making the problem worse.
Corporate taxes are the worst kind of low brow, stupid, shoot yourself in your own foot while trying to dump the bill on someone else form of wish full thinking politicians use to pander to a willfully ignorant public who think they are getting something for nothing.