We are to the point where the question is "has the general public started buying into BC" once we hit that point its time to start looking for the exit. If it is still just Chinese businessmen trying to get their money out of the country so the government can't grab it, we may still have a way to go before it stops.
OH NO!! It's going to be 0.2 warmer instead of 0.1 THAT'S A 100% INCREASE. WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE....unless you implement Socialism on a global scale and then we will be ok, well maybe. We may need all your rights too.
Cue R.E.M. It's the End of the World as We Know it.
Explain to him that it is damage to information. The internet will route around said damage.
Honestly the only time pay for copyrighted material is when the owner doesn't make it a pain in the ass process and isn't a dick about it on price.
For example my engineering books. They want in many cases nearly $200 for the hard copy and even more for some sort of limited digital access. So I go online download a pirated PDF and buy the book. If the book sucks or is not used much in the course, I'll just get the PDF and keep my $200.
Now on the other hand if they post the digital book on Amazon for $40 and have the hard copy for another $80 (and is a decent book worth keeping) I will pay money for both.
The lesson you should teach your son is that some publishers/systems are designed to steal from you the consumer and that you have no moral obligation to play nice with them if they are going to be douchebags.
Taxing the guy that makes stuff to give the money to poor people to buy that guy's stuff does ZERO to help the economy. If you produce nothing you are a drain on the economy.
People always looking for handouts. The only thing my robots will be doing in the coming automation age for the "public good" is throwing dirty hippies/hipsters off my property.
Because to install enough solar to power your home and say 2 cars with a 1st world lifestyle (not living in a mud hut), costs more than the before mentioned 2 cars. Give it enough time and it will happen.
To say nothing has changed in 40 years is completely dishonest. Per capital use of oil has dropped in the US, efficiency rates have nearly doubled, they've removed lead from automotive fuels, sulfur from diesel fuels, and there are now a half dozen choices for alternate fuels when before there were none.
When the price of oil eventually starts going back up those number of choices will only expand. This will happen sooner rather than later because our current low price are not due to an over abundance of oil, but because of the collapse of the global oil cartels influence.
Retailers/Manufactures love getting their customers spun up. Hey let's not mark up something to a realistic price so that demand is strong but not insane. They mark it down to say 1/10 of what the "gotta have my precious NOW!" are willing to pay (initial launch 3 weeks out from Christmas), and watch the customers eat each other, while knowing they won't be able to satisfy initial demand for the item for another 6 months into next year.
Wow someone else had the same idea. I always thought most poverty, homelessness, and obesity problems in the 1st world could be fixed by re-introducing large predatory felines in urban areas and making it mandatory that all children had to walk to school.
(The stupid and the lazy wouldn't last very long.)
The reoccurring cause is the whole NIMBY, because the rich didn't want their view ruined. You all do understand this isn't the view from shore they are complaining about being ruined. In nearly all the cases the wind turbines wouldn't be visible from land.
The view they are talking about being ruined is the view from their fishing boats, sail boats, and yachts 20 miles off shore.
I regularly poo poo on all things tree huggerish, but as an engineer I love wind turbines. There is enough potential wind power just off shore in the US to install 4 times the current power requirements.
Throw in Geo, Solar, and a bunch of base loading produced by coal/natural gas, nuclear, and if Elon can get them to work battery's, and basically we have enough power capacity to fulfill demand for the next several hundred years for all sectors of the economy including transportation, without ever having to import another drop of oil from overseas again.
vtcodger go look up "Hobart ground power unit". We ran 50-75KW ground generators up to aircraft all the time. This tech is more than 50 years old. The cord wasn't all that bad to deal with. 4 big cables in a bundle. Beside all they have to do is break it up into four separate power cords if all the elderly truck drivers don't want to lug that much copper around. All of a minute to hook all four up. The power was scary, but it was common place. After a while you didn't even think about it. We had the carts (diesel generators) and had ground connection (grid). Never saw or head of an catastrophic failure in my 20 years in as an aircraft maintainer.
Easy peasy. This is a nothing sandwich part of the deal.
So it is impossible to link up the equivalent of 10 fast chargers into one charging station?.....interesting. I didn't realize we had those sort of limitations with modern engineering. I mean even say just having 4 plugs on the truck that you can hook up to regular superchargers that must boggle the mind of the average electrical engineer. Or fuck having say 4 plugs on each side so the truck could pull up and plug 8 Tesla super chargers. Nigh IMPOSSIBLE!
Holy shit how about this, I know its crazy but hear my out. They take a 4 cable power cord, where could we find one of those?, the aviation industry with it's 4 giant inch thick wires that provides enough power for a 747 to run all it's internal electronics and air condition and we put that at a gas station, and then we can use the same big ass plug on the truck, and get this hook up the truck and I don't know say run 72,000 watts through it and charge the fucking batteries in say 30 minutes.
Madness? MADNESS? THIS IS TESLA!! you bunch of fucking mouth breathers.
In the short run you are going to see throttling. In the long run things will route around the damage. Those of us old enough saw it happen with the phone service. When they finally ended the POTS equivalent to net neutrality, there was wailing and crying from everyone involved and yes service dipped for a while and fragmented at bit, but look what we have now. Unlimited service, unlimited text, unlimited roaming, and phones that work anywhere in the first world or anywhere you can find a Wi-Fi point.
Same thing will happen with internet.
I already see it happening with services I use. My ISP bumps up my speed 5-10% every 12-16 months and keeps the price the same or drops it slightly.
My cell service keeps adding services that cost me no data. Binge On through T-Mobile for something like 100 online sights and apps. It covers enough things that I like that I rarely even dip into my actual data. The data I don't use on the phone mostly ends getting used for a hotspot. All with no contract at a fairly cheap price.
You want to see the end of stupidity with data services hit your local politicians and end the practice of local monopolies for cable and internet. Stop worrying about the major websites and ISPs, they will vanish as soon as people discover something better. Remember Compuserve, EarthLink, Prodigy, etc? How about Geocities, AOL, MySpace, ICQ? How about Xerox, IBM? No? people all thought they were going to take over the world. That didn't happen. Some still exist, but their roll in the world has been either greatly diminished or left behind by the new players.
I can put it in for less than $2 a watt. Cut out the electrician and be your own engineer (that degree was worth something after all) and you can avoid that $3,000 per 1000 watt markup.
That's why the tax credits aren't all that great of a deal. All the dealers just bumped their prices to absorb it and you get squat.
That usually isn't the case in large fleets. My time in UPS the truck was rarely hooked up to a trailer until it was almost ready to leave (full or scheduled time to depart). They'll probably have a charging yard with these things lined up like shopping carts. I can see that as a thing say at a Walmart where an inbound truck might hang around for its trailer to be unloaded. Though there are probably a couple sitting empty that they just swap out and hit the road. Big equipment can't make you money if they are sitting around waiting.
The one thing everyone seems to be forgetting though is while autopilot may not be legal for use on the highway it is certainly legal for use on private property. Having the trucks move themselves around the yard and self parking will become a thing pretty quick. Truck enters the yard. The driver bounces. Truck parks itself in the loading bay. Ground crew disconnects the trailer. Takes itself over to the charge/maintenance yard. A charged truck hooks up to an outbound trailer. Ground crew makes the connection and hits the go button. Then it goes to the front waiting area to pick up its driver. Driver hops in and off it goes.
They already talked about that. The important recharge points won't be on the road, but at the loading/unloading docks. For fast recharge they are talking about 1 hour.
For a quick charge on long hauls 30 minutes for roughly half the trucks range. Driver could be sleeping/stopping on break etc.
Pretty sure if the numbers are there companies will figure out a way to make these vehicles work for them.
Also you are forgetting the big market for early adoption is not the US, but Europe. Most of the major cities are getting ready to ban all heavy trucks that burn diesel from the city centers. That range and the hassle of charging will dovetail right in to their environmental regulations. Diesel fuel ~ $6 a gallon.
Long haul trucks in the US will be diesel for some time. Unless of course driverless auto pilot finally gets approval. Then you are going to be seeing nothing but auto drive trucks hauling cargo on the highway in the middle of the night.
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"People" aren't exactly smart and may not have many options.
I don't have a lot of sympathy for them. Maybe they should have applied themselves in the past so they could have a better job in the present.
We are to the point where the question is "has the general public started buying into BC" once we hit that point its time to start looking for the exit. If it is still just Chinese businessmen trying to get their money out of the country so the government can't grab it, we may still have a way to go before it stops.
OH NO!! It's going to be 0.2 warmer instead of 0.1 THAT'S A 100% INCREASE. WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE....unless you implement Socialism on a global scale and then we will be ok, well maybe. We may need all your rights too.
Cue R.E.M. It's the End of the World as We Know it.
Honestly the only time pay for copyrighted material is when the owner doesn't make it a pain in the ass process and isn't a dick about it on price.
For example my engineering books. They want in many cases nearly $200 for the hard copy and even more for some sort of limited digital access. So I go online download a pirated PDF and buy the book. If the book sucks or is not used much in the course, I'll just get the PDF and keep my $200.
Now on the other hand if they post the digital book on Amazon for $40 and have the hard copy for another $80 (and is a decent book worth keeping) I will pay money for both.
The lesson you should teach your son is that some publishers/systems are designed to steal from you the consumer and that you have no moral obligation to play nice with them if they are going to be douchebags.
Get an education there O2>>CO2.
Bahahaha, no it won't. I actually know how to do stuff. That includes how to build, use, and maintain said automation.
Those both serve a point. Giving money to oxygen-carbon dioxide converters (poor people/old people) does not. ($2300 Billion per year)
People always looking for handouts. The only thing my robots will be doing in the coming automation age for the "public good" is throwing dirty hippies/hipsters off my property.
Are you suggesting feeding fat children to the 3rd world? Soylent Green.....great for the environment, not so good for you.
To say nothing has changed in 40 years is completely dishonest. Per capital use of oil has dropped in the US, efficiency rates have nearly doubled, they've removed lead from automotive fuels, sulfur from diesel fuels, and there are now a half dozen choices for alternate fuels when before there were none.
When the price of oil eventually starts going back up those number of choices will only expand. This will happen sooner rather than later because our current low price are not due to an over abundance of oil, but because of the collapse of the global oil cartels influence.
Retailers/Manufactures love getting their customers spun up. Hey let's not mark up something to a realistic price so that demand is strong but not insane. They mark it down to say 1/10 of what the "gotta have my precious NOW!" are willing to pay (initial launch 3 weeks out from Christmas), and watch the customers eat each other, while knowing they won't be able to satisfy initial demand for the item for another 6 months into next year.
Its kind of evil if you ask me.
(The stupid and the lazy wouldn't last very long.)
Sounds good.
The reoccurring cause is the whole NIMBY, because the rich didn't want their view ruined. You all do understand this isn't the view from shore they are complaining about being ruined. In nearly all the cases the wind turbines wouldn't be visible from land.
The view they are talking about being ruined is the view from their fishing boats, sail boats, and yachts 20 miles off shore.
I regularly poo poo on all things tree huggerish, but as an engineer I love wind turbines. There is enough potential wind power just off shore in the US to install 4 times the current power requirements.
Throw in Geo, Solar, and a bunch of base loading produced by coal/natural gas, nuclear, and if Elon can get them to work battery's, and basically we have enough power capacity to fulfill demand for the next several hundred years for all sectors of the economy including transportation, without ever having to import another drop of oil from overseas again.
Fat kids will kill you if they fall off the roof and land on you.
Of course we could help nature along by hacking PMG so it only generates the really cool critters in the middle of the street.
Easy peasy. This is a nothing sandwich part of the deal.
Holy shit how about this, I know its crazy but hear my out. They take a 4 cable power cord, where could we find one of those?, the aviation industry with it's 4 giant inch thick wires that provides enough power for a 747 to run all it's internal electronics and air condition and we put that at a gas station, and then we can use the same big ass plug on the truck, and get this hook up the truck and I don't know say run 72,000 watts through it and charge the fucking batteries in say 30 minutes.
Madness? MADNESS? THIS IS TESLA!! you bunch of fucking mouth breathers.
Same thing will happen with internet.
I already see it happening with services I use. My ISP bumps up my speed 5-10% every 12-16 months and keeps the price the same or drops it slightly.
My cell service keeps adding services that cost me no data. Binge On through T-Mobile for something like 100 online sights and apps. It covers enough things that I like that I rarely even dip into my actual data. The data I don't use on the phone mostly ends getting used for a hotspot. All with no contract at a fairly cheap price.
You want to see the end of stupidity with data services hit your local politicians and end the practice of local monopolies for cable and internet. Stop worrying about the major websites and ISPs, they will vanish as soon as people discover something better. Remember Compuserve, EarthLink, Prodigy, etc? How about Geocities, AOL, MySpace, ICQ? How about Xerox, IBM? No? people all thought they were going to take over the world. That didn't happen. Some still exist, but their roll in the world has been either greatly diminished or left behind by the new players.
That's why the tax credits aren't all that great of a deal. All the dealers just bumped their prices to absorb it and you get squat.
The one thing everyone seems to be forgetting though is while autopilot may not be legal for use on the highway it is certainly legal for use on private property. Having the trucks move themselves around the yard and self parking will become a thing pretty quick. Truck enters the yard. The driver bounces. Truck parks itself in the loading bay. Ground crew disconnects the trailer. Takes itself over to the charge/maintenance yard. A charged truck hooks up to an outbound trailer. Ground crew makes the connection and hits the go button. Then it goes to the front waiting area to pick up its driver. Driver hops in and off it goes.
For a quick charge on long hauls 30 minutes for roughly half the trucks range. Driver could be sleeping/stopping on break etc.
Pretty sure if the numbers are there companies will figure out a way to make these vehicles work for them.
Also you are forgetting the big market for early adoption is not the US, but Europe. Most of the major cities are getting ready to ban all heavy trucks that burn diesel from the city centers. That range and the hassle of charging will dovetail right in to their environmental regulations. Diesel fuel ~ $6 a gallon.
Long haul trucks in the US will be diesel for some time. Unless of course driverless auto pilot finally gets approval. Then you are going to be seeing nothing but auto drive trucks hauling cargo on the highway in the middle of the night.
I am waiting to see who the first person is to buy one and turn it into a massively overpowered SUV/truck thing for drag racing.
Automate.
Now try making the other 99.99% of that device work.
Wait what? You don't know how? Maybe you should call an engineer.