So if you want to change variable x to y, you will also change all exists to eyists, right? What you really have to do is to manually check each and every one of those occurences to try to decide if needs to be changed or not.
Syntax checking is what good eyes and good compilers are for.
Sure you can spend your brainpower on hunting syntax errors, but why not use it for more productive things when the IDE can do it for you? And of course the compiler will always catch syntax errors, but instead of finding them when you type them there is a much longer turnaround time.
I have no idea what "raw complexity of a GUI-based system" is supposed to be. Visual C++ may be crap, I know nothing about that. I'm talking about IDEA for Java. All it's auto checking does is to mark errors in red. It's up to you to if and when you want to do anything about them.
My IDE can -- rename a variable or class, and have the changes propagate through every file in the project -- Flag most syntax errors or mismatched parameters I produce while I write them -- press a key and have every use of the variable the cursor is on highlighted in purple. The uses outside the window is shown in purple on the scroll bar.
And dozens of other things. Sure, you can do them all by hand, but much slower and more error prone.
Do you think you should be able to bring some friends to share your plate to an all you can eat restaurant? Or that you should be able to take home as much leftovers that you can carry?
Not sure if this is what you mean with "resources are created, not found", but one interesting way to look at things is to observe that until the explosion motor was invented, oil was mostly a slimy substance that nobody wanted on their land.
Or in other words, oil, as a resource was created a little over 100 years ago, by a human invention.
When you release something for sale, and make a ton of money on it, I don't call that being burned.
More importantly, regardless of what you call it, your original claim was that since the experience from VCR, DVD etc was so bad, Hollywood would not get into the HDTV market unless copying was somehow finally prevented.
My actual argument is that they did in fact make a ton of money on them, and would most likely do the same in HDTV media. So if they refuse to get in it, they are refusing to make money.
I'm making a purely practical argument, saying that business will probably do what makes them money. I'm not getting into moral issues at all.
Hollywood has been burned three times now: VHS, VCD, DVD. It's pretty clear that they won't adopt another, more sophisticated format without some pretty strong copy protection features.
How have they been burned??
Hollywood is making a lot, possibly even the majority (haven't seen numbers in a while) of their money out of those formats.
Dude, the NSA doesn't need warrants. It does whatever the hell it pleases.
Remember that this country was ruled by J Edgar Hoover for decades, since he as the head of the FBI could crush any US politician, including most Presidents, that didn't comply with his demands.
Isn't the internet population in these countries very recent?
Most people are pretty gullible when they first get online, as can be seen by how they forward all wacky virus scare emails and other myths. When I first got online I spent a fair amount of time "learning" about some crazy stuff.
After a while people get their bearings and learn to tell the good from the bad. And once these people get burned a few times, they'll also know how to that.
...or you may not. But you sound like you might be ready for the only party dedicated to the idea of personal and economical freedom, for real.
I think a lot of the issues you're seeing is a result of big corporations buying government coercion in their favor from politicians. The root problem is still government power, but it gets a bit complicated.
Quick, not too slanted, test: http://www.lp.org/quiz/
The latency problem with satellite based internet is almost entirely due to the distance the signal has to travel to the satellite and back. Look up how far out the geostationary orbit is and you'll find the speed of light takes several hundred milliseconds to complete the roundtrip.
There is no similar reason that these signals should be delayed, so unless they screw up the implementation, it should be as fast as any other broadband technology.
One good programmer, one bad programmer, code up to the standard of the good programmer, and the bad programmer learns, hopefully becoming better.
I haven't tried pair programming, but my experience with bad programmers is that their main malfunction is often that they don't realize they're bad. They think they're super smart, and will argue ferociously for their demented complicated schemes. If you pair a good and bad programmer, you're likely to end up with either no code, or if the good programmer is willing to compromise to get something done, a loopy design that's been polished to work adequately by the oversight of the good programmer.
I guess my point is who is the most pigheaded person may have a bigger influence on the results of pair programming than who is the better programmer. And that you often get more humble the more you learn in this business.
If NASA wasn't a government monopoly, private enterprise would have financed a Mars mission with the movie rights and weekly "reality show" a long time ago.
NASA is bad for the taxpayer, but it's also bad for space exploration.
The main reasons that putting in mass transit in US cities is harder is (1) that the population density is much smaller and (2) traffic patterns aren't nearly as uniform.
(1) is because everyone has a car, and their "active range" is much bigger. I was pretty happy going by bike and mass transit in Stockholm. But if my average trip there was 5 km it's perhaps 15km here. I get there equally fast. It seems everyone likes to live 30-60 minutes from their work, that means that Americans in general live much more spread out.
Anyway, regardless of why, the population density difference is a fact. And this is a problem for mass transit since with 1/3 the population density, you'd need 9 times as much mass transit, at 9 times the cost to serve the same population. That's a lot of empty busses and trains.
(2) US cities don't have much of a center, especially the younger ones. LA, Dallas & Phoenix are mostly huge spread out built areas with little distinction. Trips people make tend to be from fairly random points A to equally random points B.
In short, mass transit is hard in these cities because there is little mass movement. All travel is individual. There are no huge streams of movements that a mass transit system could serve really well.
European cities have grown and developed over centuries together with their transportation systems. Those systems serve their needs, and the habits of their population have been formed by the available services.
Older US cities like New York, Boston and Chicago have evolved in a more European way, and do have pretty respectable and well used mass transit systems.
I'm sure you're right about transportation in London. But consider why that is so. And it sure doesn't make me want to move to London!
A lot of Americans go abroad on vacation and get blown away by how well mass transit works. Let me tell you why that is not a good way to evaluate it.
A typical European major city is built around a more or less ancient center, where all roads and transit system originate, with important extensions to the airport and rail stations. As I hope you can see, the mass transit system is working at it's very best for the typical travel patterns of a tourist, going between the main transit centers and all the tourist attractions in the center.
Now, if you were to live in a regular home and commute to a regular job in that same city, things would be very different. You'd be going from one suburb to another, probably having to change train or bus at the center. It would take at least twice as long as going by car, quite likely more. You could and would probably make arrangements so you lived where mass transit was favorable for your commute, but whenever you were going to some friend or some other random place, you'd have quite a logistical task on your hands.
And that's in a city that's always had it's transportation system built for mass transit. In an american city, built from the ground up for cars, it would work quite a bit worse.
I think I know since I moved to San Francisco from Stockholm 7 years ago. And while Stockholm has a quite decent mass transit system, and SF traffic is painfully congested, going by car here just can't compare to going by mass transit there. It's one of my bigger reasons for not moving back.
That sounds great, but doing all those things at the same time with great quality, will put a big strain on the hardware and OS. Do you really want the TV to start to flicker when the kid is playing Quake 5? Or when the garage door opens?
What many forget (or never knew) is that a PVR is recording at least one stream of TV to disk 24/7. That's a pretty big load on a current machine to begin with if you try to do other things with the computer too.
I thought the Upstanding Citizen thing to do was to take it and turn it in to the Police Lost & Found??
Can the street cleaners pick it up, or is it just supposed to sit there until it rots from exposure?
To be less glib, I guess the distinction is the "for your own use" part. It seems like you could always claim you were on your way to the police with it though.
Due to it's ability to pause live programming, a real PVR records all the time, 24/7.
I doubt that your $600 homemade PVR will be able to do much of all those other things very well while it's pumping a GB/hour to disk.
So you are paying a lot more for less functionality. But at least you're not supporting the people who invented the product category and blazed the trail for the open source copy cats.
First, this is not a cleanroom or even your grandmothers living room. It's an unprotected wilderness moon where all sorts of space junk has fallen on it since the beginning of time. As long as we're not worse than that, there is nothing to worry about.
Second, if we do something today that contanimates Europe in a million years, that means we have one million years to conduct more research.
In reality, we'll probably need at most a few decades until we've found out all we need to know about it, and can turn it in to something more useful. Or if it turns out to house something very delicate that we'll want to preserve for eternity, we have a million years to stop the future pollution from happening.
I really would like to hear what the one single event is that will actually effect enough Joe Citizens at the same time to wake them up. I thought it would be DVD region coding, but it wasn't, because Region 1 gets all the goodies.
True, but outside the US, that does not get all the goodies, it's next to impossible to sell a regionrespecting DVD player.
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Oh please!
So if you want to change variable x to y, you will also change all exists to eyists, right? What you really have to do is to manually check each and every one of those occurences to try to decide if needs to be changed or not.
Syntax checking is what good eyes and good compilers are for.
Sure you can spend your brainpower on hunting syntax errors, but why not use it for more productive things when the IDE can do it for you? And of course the compiler will always catch syntax errors, but instead of finding them when you type them there is a much longer turnaround time.
I have no idea what "raw complexity of a GUI-based system" is supposed to be. Visual C++ may be crap, I know nothing about that. I'm talking about IDEA for Java. All it's auto checking does is to mark errors in red. It's up to you to if and when you want to do anything about them.
... until I tried one.
My IDE can
-- rename a variable or class, and have the changes propagate through every file in the project
-- Flag most syntax errors or mismatched parameters I produce while I write them
-- press a key and have every use of the variable the cursor is on highlighted in purple. The uses outside the window is shown in purple on the scroll bar.
And dozens of other things. Sure, you can do them all by hand, but much slower and more error prone.
Do you think you should be able to bring some friends to share your plate to an all you can eat restaurant? Or that you should be able to take home as much leftovers that you can carry?
Oh, that's what it's called in english! Yes, you're right.
Not sure if this is what you mean with "resources are created, not found", but one interesting way to look at things is to observe that until the explosion motor was invented, oil was mostly a slimy substance that nobody wanted on their land.
Or in other words, oil, as a resource was created a little over 100 years ago, by a human invention.
Think back 5 years and remember how young you used to be.
You're not looking at the Big Picture.
When you release something for sale, and make a ton of money on it, I don't call that being burned.
More importantly, regardless of what you call it, your original claim was that since the experience from VCR, DVD etc was so bad, Hollywood would not get into the HDTV market unless copying was somehow finally prevented.
My actual argument is that they did in fact make a ton of money on them, and would most likely do the same in HDTV media. So if they refuse to get in it, they are refusing to make money.
I'm making a purely practical argument, saying that business will probably do what makes them money. I'm not getting into moral issues at all.
Hollywood has been burned three times now: VHS, VCD, DVD. It's pretty clear that they won't adopt another, more sophisticated format without some pretty strong copy protection features.
How have they been burned??
Hollywood is making a lot, possibly even the majority (haven't seen numbers in a while) of their money out of those formats.
I wish I could get burned like that.
I've always believed that the future of music was in Live music, i.e. performers must play to get paid.
Or to phrase it an other way: In the future, the composer of music will have very little ability to get paid.
If the composer is also the performer, he will get paid, but only in his capacity as performer, not composer.
the future lies in performers doing actual work
Obviously, composing music is actual and difficult work, requiring talent, training and considerable effort.
Dude, the NSA doesn't need warrants. It does whatever the hell it pleases.
Remember that this country was ruled by J Edgar Hoover for decades, since he as the head of the FBI could crush any US politician, including most Presidents, that didn't comply with his demands.
..it is sure to not have happened. Only tin foil crackpots could suspect that NSA would be secretive about such a thing!
Isn't the internet population in these countries very recent?
Most people are pretty gullible when they first get online, as can be seen by how they forward all wacky virus scare emails and other myths. When I first got online I spent a fair amount of time "learning" about some crazy stuff.
After a while people get their bearings and learn to tell the good from the bad. And once these people get burned a few times, they'll also know how to that.
That's a little naive.
Of course you (and I) will go back to regular ad based TV the day our Tivos are made illegal.
...or you may not. But you sound like you might be ready for the only party dedicated to the idea of personal and economical freedom, for real.
I think a lot of the issues you're seeing is a result of big corporations buying government coercion in their favor from politicians. The root problem is still government power, but it gets a bit complicated.
Quick, not too slanted, test: http://www.lp.org/quiz/
The latency problem with satellite based internet is almost entirely due to the distance the signal has to travel to the satellite and back. Look up how far out the geostationary orbit is and you'll find the speed of light takes several hundred milliseconds to complete the roundtrip.
There is no similar reason that these signals should be delayed, so unless they screw up the implementation, it should be as fast as any other broadband technology.
One good programmer, one bad programmer, code up to the standard of the good programmer, and the bad programmer learns, hopefully becoming better.
I haven't tried pair programming, but my experience with bad programmers is that their main malfunction is often that they don't realize they're bad. They think they're super smart, and will argue ferociously for their demented complicated schemes. If you pair a good and bad programmer, you're likely to end up with either no code, or if the good programmer is willing to compromise to get something done, a loopy design that's been polished to work adequately by the oversight of the good programmer.
I guess my point is who is the most pigheaded person may have a bigger influence on the results of pair programming than who is the better programmer. And that you often get more humble the more you learn in this business.
If NASA wasn't a government monopoly, private enterprise would have financed a Mars mission with the movie rights and weekly "reality show" a long time ago.
NASA is bad for the taxpayer, but it's also bad for space exploration.
The main reasons that putting in mass transit in US cities is harder is (1) that the population density is much smaller and (2) traffic patterns aren't nearly as uniform.
(1) is because everyone has a car, and their "active range" is much bigger. I was pretty happy going by bike and mass transit in Stockholm. But if my average trip there was 5 km it's perhaps 15km here. I get there equally fast. It seems everyone likes to live 30-60 minutes from their work, that means that Americans in general live much more spread out.
Anyway, regardless of why, the population density difference is a fact. And this is a problem for mass transit since with 1/3 the population density, you'd need 9 times as much mass transit, at 9 times the cost to serve the same population. That's a lot of empty busses and trains.
(2) US cities don't have much of a center, especially the younger ones. LA, Dallas & Phoenix are mostly huge spread out built areas with little distinction. Trips people make tend to be from fairly random points A to equally random points B.
In short, mass transit is hard in these cities because there is little mass movement. All travel is individual. There are no huge streams of movements that a mass transit system could serve really well.
European cities have grown and developed over centuries together with their transportation systems. Those systems serve their needs, and the habits of their population have been formed by the available services.
Older US cities like New York, Boston and Chicago have evolved in a more European way, and do have pretty respectable and well used mass transit systems.
I'm sure you're right about transportation in London. But consider why that is so. And it sure doesn't make me want to move to London!
A lot of Americans go abroad on vacation and get blown away by how well mass transit works. Let me tell you why that is not a good way to evaluate it.
A typical European major city is built around a more or less ancient center, where all roads and transit system originate, with important extensions to the airport and rail stations. As I hope you can see, the mass transit system is working at it's very best for the typical travel patterns of a tourist, going between the main transit centers and all the tourist attractions in the center.
Now, if you were to live in a regular home and commute to a regular job in that same city, things would be very different. You'd be going from one suburb to another, probably having to change train or bus at the center. It would take at least twice as long as going by car, quite likely more. You could and would probably make arrangements so you lived where mass transit was favorable for your commute, but whenever you were going to some friend or some other random place, you'd have quite a logistical task on your hands.
And that's in a city that's always had it's transportation system built for mass transit. In an american city, built from the ground up for cars, it would work quite a bit worse.
I think I know since I moved to San Francisco from Stockholm 7 years ago. And while Stockholm has a quite decent mass transit system, and SF traffic is painfully congested, going by car here just can't compare to going by mass transit there. It's one of my bigger reasons for not moving back.
That sounds great, but doing all those things at the same time with great quality, will put a big strain on the hardware and OS. Do you really want the TV to start to flicker when the kid is playing Quake 5? Or when the garage door opens?
What many forget (or never knew) is that a PVR is recording at least one stream of TV to disk 24/7. That's a pretty big load on a current machine to begin with if you try to do other things with the computer too.
I thought the Upstanding Citizen thing to do was to take it and turn it in to the Police Lost & Found??
Can the street cleaners pick it up, or is it just supposed to sit there until it rots from exposure?
To be less glib, I guess the distinction is the "for your own use" part. It seems like you could always claim you were on your way to the police with it though.
Now I'm only waiting for the bicycle version. I lose at least one bike a year in the mean streets and garages of San Francisco.
Due to it's ability to pause live programming, a real PVR records all the time, 24/7.
I doubt that your $600 homemade PVR will be able to do much of all those other things very well while it's pumping a GB/hour to disk.
So you are paying a lot more for less functionality. But at least you're not supporting the people who invented the product category and blazed the trail for the open source copy cats.
First, this is not a cleanroom or even your grandmothers living room. It's an unprotected wilderness moon where all sorts of space junk has fallen on it since the beginning of time. As long as we're not worse than that, there is nothing to worry about.
Second, if we do something today that contanimates Europe in a million years, that means we have one million years to conduct more research.
In reality, we'll probably need at most a few decades until we've found out all we need to know about it, and can turn it in to something more useful. Or if it turns out to house something very delicate that we'll want to preserve for eternity, we have a million years to stop the future pollution from happening.
I really would like to hear what the one single event is that will actually effect enough Joe Citizens at the same time to wake them up. I thought it would be DVD region coding, but it wasn't, because Region 1 gets all the goodies.
True, but outside the US, that does not get all the goodies, it's next to impossible to sell a regionrespecting DVD player.