Suppose that you were right. I'll give you a a counter example: Tivo. we DID "take advantage" of Tivo and hacked to double the drive size. We did a lot of other things. Tivo gracefully let us go, knowing that there isn't much they can do about it. Let me ask you this: is Tivo going under?
No. Why? maybe because Tivo is a better product to start with. Maybe it's because Tivo never chose to do a "lose leader" and never distrust its customers.
"If you are dumb and not rich, you don't desert the right to vote. If you are dumb but your daddy is influential, you get to be the president -- even if you screw up, did drugs, get DUI's...and lied to the public about it."
Welcome to the land of oppurtunity. You helped make it this way.
Wow. Nice job. You have definitely find your way to elect 3 conservative supreme court justices, the "liberal" way.
The conservatives got at least 7 of 9 seats in the supreme court in the 90's. You guys just wanna help out new conservative blood to get in the supreme court. This influence the national policy for the next couple of decades. Sure, you got your fucking 2% voice heard. Be proud of your self.
Dumb ass. In a close race like this, the only wining strategy is the middle. This is proven mathematically.
This is not to say that AG is not gona elect some conservative into the supreme court just like Clinton did. But I can guarantee you that Bush will never nominate a liberal supreme court justice. period.
As the other poster said, Microsoft do not "support" the software. Sure you can compare a boxed redhat and a boxed Windows2000 when you buy a SINGLE BOX. But if you got 10,000 machines, Red Hat does not require you to buy 10,000 box set, does it?
Chances are, if you got MS OS on the machine, you also have MS Office on the same machine, plus a whole buncha other products. These adds up. BIG TIME.
10,000 machines runing Windows and MS Office.
10,000 machines running Linux with StarOffice.
Guys! Guys! Get over this Microsoft thing, OK? If I live down there in VA, I will get a few friends, print a few posters, burn a few CDs, hop in a car and start a "Linux install fest." campaign.
This incident is a perfect opportunity for us to get to the media, the consumer, the IT department and the like. "If you don't ever want to be audited, install another OS!"
Quit whining and take some action, take advantage of this golden opportunity, please!
This instruction is rediculous for a newbie. you asking him to compile kernel module?!
I think the better advise, in this case, will be: "Here's the instruction if you wanna get your linksys NIC working. But if you are intimidated, CHOOSE A WELL SUPPORTED NETWORK ADAPTER. Find the list in Ethernet HOW-TO"
I bet you the newbie would rather spend $25 for a intel etherexpress pro(promo on thier site) than fuzzing with recompiling and re-inserting kernel modules. if they even know what that means.
It shouldn't be. 99 out of 100 times the problem is "Winmodem." Otherwise it's a breeze. All distros are making networking as easy as possible.
Newbies tend to use "the cheap computer in the corner" to install Linux as experiment. This will not work. Your cheap puters usually use some shitty hardware that's not supported. If you have checked every single piece of your hardware to be linux compatible, then configuration is not hard at all. You may say: how come I don't have to check my windows hardware compatibility? Well, you do. If you used NT.
The best way to know if the hardware will work is to boot one of those live-filesystem CD's.
Admittedly, when I was a newbie, I spent 3 days trying to figure out what's wrong with the modem. I read the Net admin guide, PPP howto, ISP hook-up... on the third day, I went out to dance and I told myself that I could not hang on for another day. The next day, magically, I figured it out. it was using the other serial port. Duh. But that was Slackware, and I had to write my own script to dial pppd and such. So I won't believe anyone that claims to have spent 6 months trying to hook-up. my PNP sound card took 6 months, not simple network hookup. The good thing is, I spent three days reading networking, PPP, modem dialing, minicom... and such.
Another example is X configuration. I never had any problems because my hardware is very good and I have kept all the documentation that come with them. People who cry about not being able to configure X usually don't know thier monitor sync rate and don't have a good video card. If they do, all they do is enter the information on the manual.
I don't know about red hat. SuSE network configuration is pretty plain and simple. try SuSE maybe.
If Napster signs with only big record companies, where will other non-mainstream music go?
One thing I like about Napster is that you can actually find rare things. For example, some 30's live recording of Marlene Dietrich. Extremely underground stuff. Some background music in a commercial that links to a group that once existed. Some good Cha Cha songs to practice Latin dance... or just that song in your head all day.
Point is, not all Napster users are mainstream listeners. We, the rare music collectors, are afraid of losing ground. Think about it. Will BMG be willing to let the "free" version of thier non-free MP3 float around? I seriously doubt. They must get rid of pirated copies somehow. To me, that says, "Napster will someday get rid of the free service and become a media provider for big record companies." So what if Napster becomes a "subscription only" service? Problem is, the community, as a whole, loses those rare songs because no big companies support them.
"High Quality" is relative. Just about all pop songs need not go over 128k bitrate. However, for something like classical music, even 196 is not acceptable. Which is why most of them use Variable Bit Rate encoding.
Just like major computer vendors sell cheap computers, major record companies sell cheap quality songs. They advertise and package the songs nicely so that consummers dont care about the real quality. This is exactly the reason why Napster is revolutional: you download the song, get tired of it in 3 hours, never touch it again. By doing so, you escape the trap from the record company - making you buy something you don't really want.
As a pool player, I must say, that a whole lot of pool players are Science people. Math, Physics, CS,... It's a game about science. I'm not talking about those 6 ft tables you see in the bars, those are not really billiards.
Billiards is a game of planning and execution. It is a game that doesn't require you to be fit. (you know what I mean.) and it's a game that you don't need to develop muscles to play. I think it's EXACTLY a game for us.
So a encourage fellow geeks and geekesses to go to a GOOD pool hall and study the beauty of the game. play some. you can't be productive if you stare at the monitor 20 hours a day.
Nah. if they used director they wouldn't bother with copying windowmaker and enlightenment. they can just create something real quick.
chances are, the system monitoring app gives a nice effect of a "live" computer which is why it's used. which is why it ain't director. because it's simply too much trouble.
The fact that the electoral process was designed to blocks blacks from voting and the fact that pre-registration means you can't decide to go out and vote on the last minute because of a tight race cannot be explained. I'm a Math person and I fail to see how this can be explained.
I personal wished the question about the election process would include the simple question, "Why is it so damn hard to vote?"
I used to laugh at people who vote for a third party, but I changed my mind.
Browne definitely sounds like a man of great vision. There are, however, some weak points:
- I agree with everything he said up to the "No income tax" part. I think that is quite irresponsible.
- Then he failed to give any answer to the question about the current electoral system.
- Browne also fails to explain "Free Market's" naughty effect - monopolistic behavior such as that of Microsoft.
- The point that Free Trade is better than defense is very brilliant. Look at Russia. And the notion that Free Trade doesn't cost jobs is also correct in any modern economists point of view.
- Browne fails to explain how a lot of people will survive in his vision. If wellfare system is taken off immediately, the country will no doubt be in chaos and violence. Simply put, some people will go out and rob if they don't have food in thier hands. This is more costly than wellfare.
Overall, thought. I feel that at least we are not fed with bullocks. We got honest answers to problems without any moral references. That's what I like.
If you can get one of the little DDOS wariors on that Groove thing, this will be a fast and extremely effective way to attack.
Oh.. about encryption. Yeah the files will be signed, whatever. But all it takes is to compromise the originating host. (The anti-viri providor host) or the host that provides public keys then it can propagate from there.
Right now, at least 7 of the 9 justices are clearly conservative. There are no clear liberals in the supreme court. So, just about ANY resignation is one step towards middle ground.
Unfortunately Clinton DID get a ultra-conservative into the court. I can guarantee you, that Bush will never appoint a liberal justice.
Please remember how important supreme court decision is. It not only change the national policy, it also swings the entire world culture. We don't need another conservative justice in the supreme court. Really.
I will wait and pray for the day that liberals get back into the supreme court.
I think there are a lot of cool things you can do with laser bussiness cards. Some people print things for fun. Yes. Fun. For example, I would print a bussiness card with a URL on it and it goes like :
"Hi beawutiful, visit this web site to fill an application form for a chance to go out with me."
"I am going to be in North Carolina for 3 weeks and here is how to contact me."
Needless to say, labels have more uses.
I understand that you intend to help. But we must face the fact that there is a problem here. There isn't any good label printing software under UNIX.
I have tried to download some postscript based package from freshmeat. it was not very practical.
And face it, most people don't use TeX and a lot of people knows no good way of editing postscript graphics. I say this as a pure TeX user and as a graphics designer. There is a need for WYSIWYG label printer program. Current solutions are not very useful/practical.
What you are saying is, "I'm a loser; I don't want other losers to be well because they are bigger losers, they deserve to lose more than I do."
"I did what I think I should do; now give me the candy and punish the other kid." The truth is, people with this kind of attitude do not deserve to make a lot of money, because they cannot think outside the box. They are little bolts and nuts of the society; just as important as the next blue collar worker. What makes you money is not "following the rules" but to do something new; to make an impact. But no, you cannot do that so you blame the government for taking your money away. No one likes to pay taxes. But some CHOOSE to bitch and moan about it.
Projects and small towns. Have you talked to anyone who came from that background? I have. In fact, many of them were born there, moved out and are doing fine. If you know any of these people in person, you would know why these people deserve a chance. Wellfare does not make them rich. It gives them a little bit of chance to breath.
Linus Torvalds was in college for 9 years. During this time, the finland govn't paid for his expenses. But anyone can rule him out as "unproductive", right?
Who are you to judge?
I am not saying that they are all productive. I am saying that, sometimes, it's just a phase. Sometimes we have great people coming out of those backgrounds. They deserve a chance more than you deserve a HDTV.
I don't understand you conservatives wanting pro-life but you imply that the baby can simply be taken away. Is that what your religions teach you? Is that why Jesus dies for you? so that you can enjoy life a little more, and let the poor suffer and die? Gee. Why is it that Conservatives talk about God and morals when they talk about sexuality issues, but when it comes to wellfare, they prefer leaving the poor out in the cold? What happens to your morals and good will? It's selective, isn't it?
If the tax goes up to %50+ percent, so what? Just figure out a way to make more. There is always a way. That's a winner's attitude.
Why can't you BE A MAN and say, "OK, the government's highest tax rate is Y; but I want X, so let me go out and make X/(1+Y)."
But you can't. So instead, you just sit there and whine about tax rate.
Philip Glass, the master of contempo minimalist music drove a Taxi in new York City for over a decade. Was he unproductive? No. Paul Erdos, the great Mathematician whose work created the field of Graph Theory and generally regarded as the most prolifit Mathematician since Euler, had no bank account, no house, no job. Was he unproductive? No. In fact, graph theory is widely used in computer Science so he was way more productive than you. Your MickeyD drive through servers are all making 5 bucks and hour and what will happen if they all quit today?
You are reading slashdot. This forum was created by two young kids in thier early 20's. They were not making much money when they started. Just a few years ago, people would post comments like, "Rob, quit drooling at the toys and get a real job!" But were they "unproductive?" Yahoo is created by grad students in school. They weren't getting paid, were they unproductive?
You have never been down and out before, and that is why you have to whine like a loser. A true winner will never whine, even if he's making nil. Truth is, many extremely successful people have been homeless or poor. They will eventually become successful when something starts to click.
Why do you think you can measure people's intelligence and productivity with thier salary? If that was the case, then Larry Wall was not very productive when he started writing Perl because no one paid him. Linus Torvald is not even 1/100 time as productive as Ricky Martin. Did they whine about taxes? No. Because they are winners. Microsoft cannot buy these people, because they know their self worth cannot be measured with money.
Some people will never satisfy. Why can't you be thankful that you have good parents, good luck and that you have a nice paying job. You are not starving and why are you crying like a baby. You have a roof on top of you, be thankful. You have access to a computer, be thankful of that, too. Quit whinning.
You remind me of Tom Cruise in that film "Rainman." This guy got a good report card, showed it to his dad, and demand that his dad let him take his car out for a ride "because I deserve it." Then he left home and 20 years later after his father died, he "demand to have half of the estate." Because? he deserves that, too.
American's tax rate is not quite as high as that of European. If you want, you can move to Hong Kong or other extremely capitalised country.
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Suppose that you were right. I'll give you a a counter example: Tivo. we DID "take advantage" of Tivo and hacked to double the drive size. We did a lot of other things. Tivo gracefully let us go, knowing that there isn't much they can do about it. Let me ask you this: is Tivo going under?
No. Why? maybe because Tivo is a better product to start with. Maybe it's because Tivo never chose to do a "lose leader" and never distrust its customers.
"If you are dumb and not rich, you don't desert the right to vote. If you are dumb but your daddy is influential, you get to be the president -- even if you screw up, did drugs, get DUI's...and lied to the public about it."
Welcome to the land of oppurtunity. You helped make it this way.
Wow. Nice job. You have definitely find your way to elect 3 conservative supreme court justices, the "liberal" way.
The conservatives got at least 7 of 9 seats in the supreme court in the 90's. You guys just wanna help out new conservative blood to get in the supreme court. This influence the national policy for the next couple of decades. Sure, you got your fucking 2% voice heard. Be proud of your self.
Dumb ass. In a close race like this, the only wining strategy is the middle. This is proven mathematically.
This is not to say that AG is not gona elect some conservative into the supreme court just like Clinton did. But I can guarantee you that Bush will never nominate a liberal supreme court justice. period.
Congrats. and Good night.
This is a hoax. The reason behind it was that Bill Gates watched "Charlie's Angel" yesterday...
Bill went home and started calling every Charlie on the phone book to hire angels.
As the other poster said, Microsoft do not "support" the software. Sure you can compare a boxed redhat and a boxed Windows2000 when you buy a SINGLE BOX. But if you got 10,000 machines, Red Hat does not require you to buy 10,000 box set, does it?
Chances are, if you got MS OS on the machine, you also have MS Office on the same machine, plus a whole buncha other products. These adds up. BIG TIME.
10,000 machines runing Windows and MS Office.
10,000 machines running Linux with StarOffice.
the difference is six figures.
Guys! Guys! Get over this Microsoft thing, OK? If I live down there in VA, I will get a few friends, print a few posters, burn a few CDs, hop in a car and start a "Linux install fest." campaign.
This incident is a perfect opportunity for us to get to the media, the consumer, the IT department and the like. "If you don't ever want to be audited, install another OS!"
Quit whining and take some action, take advantage of this golden opportunity, please!
you mean baby eating "Daemon."
Good point! which newsgroup?
This instruction is rediculous for a newbie. you asking him to compile kernel module?!
I think the better advise, in this case, will be: "Here's the instruction if you wanna get your linksys NIC working. But if you are intimidated, CHOOSE A WELL SUPPORTED NETWORK ADAPTER. Find the list in Ethernet HOW-TO"
I bet you the newbie would rather spend $25 for a intel etherexpress pro(promo on thier site) than fuzzing with recompiling and re-inserting kernel modules. if they even know what that means.
It shouldn't be. 99 out of 100 times the problem is "Winmodem." Otherwise it's a breeze. All distros are making networking as easy as possible.
Newbies tend to use "the cheap computer in the corner" to install Linux as experiment. This will not work. Your cheap puters usually use some shitty hardware that's not supported. If you have checked every single piece of your hardware to be linux compatible, then configuration is not hard at all. You may say: how come I don't have to check my windows hardware compatibility? Well, you do. If you used NT.
The best way to know if the hardware will work is to boot one of those live-filesystem CD's.
Admittedly, when I was a newbie, I spent 3 days trying to figure out what's wrong with the modem. I read the Net admin guide, PPP howto, ISP hook-up... on the third day, I went out to dance and I told myself that I could not hang on for another day. The next day, magically, I figured it out. it was using the other serial port. Duh. But that was Slackware, and I had to write my own script to dial pppd and such. So I won't believe anyone that claims to have spent 6 months trying to hook-up. my PNP sound card took 6 months, not simple network hookup. The good thing is, I spent three days reading networking, PPP, modem dialing, minicom... and such.
Another example is X configuration. I never had any problems because my hardware is very good and I have kept all the documentation that come with them. People who cry about not being able to configure X usually don't know thier monitor sync rate and don't have a good video card. If they do, all they do is enter the information on the manual.
I don't know about red hat. SuSE network configuration is pretty plain and simple. try SuSE maybe.
If Napster signs with only big record companies, where will other non-mainstream music go?
One thing I like about Napster is that you can actually find rare things. For example, some 30's live recording of Marlene Dietrich. Extremely underground stuff. Some background music in a commercial that links to a group that once existed. Some good Cha Cha songs to practice Latin dance... or just that song in your head all day.
Point is, not all Napster users are mainstream listeners. We, the rare music collectors, are afraid of losing ground. Think about it. Will BMG be willing to let the "free" version of thier non-free MP3 float around? I seriously doubt. They must get rid of pirated copies somehow. To me, that says, "Napster will someday get rid of the free service and become a media provider for big record companies." So what if Napster becomes a "subscription only" service? Problem is, the community, as a whole, loses those rare songs because no big companies support them.
"High Quality" is relative. Just about all pop songs need not go over 128k bitrate. However, for something like classical music, even 196 is not acceptable. Which is why most of them use Variable Bit Rate encoding.
Just like major computer vendors sell cheap computers, major record companies sell cheap quality songs. They advertise and package the songs nicely so that consummers dont care about the real quality. This is exactly the reason why Napster is revolutional: you download the song, get tired of it in 3 hours, never touch it again. By doing so, you escape the trap from the record company - making you buy something you don't really want.
As a pool player, I must say, that a whole lot of pool players are Science people. Math, Physics, CS, ... It's a game about science. I'm not talking about those 6 ft tables you see in the bars, those are not really billiards.
Billiards is a game of planning and execution. It is a game that doesn't require you to be fit. (you know what I mean.) and it's a game that you don't need to develop muscles to play. I think it's EXACTLY a game for us.
So a encourage fellow geeks and geekesses to go to a GOOD pool hall and study the beauty of the game. play some. you can't be productive if you stare at the monitor 20 hours a day.
Nah. if they used director they wouldn't bother with copying windowmaker and enlightenment. they can just create something real quick.
chances are, the system monitoring app gives a nice effect of a "live" computer which is why it's used. which is why it ain't director. because it's simply too much trouble.
maybe with the exceptiong of "access denied"
If they didn't end VB script execution after Malissa and ILOVEU and hundreds of clones alike, what makes you think they'll change thier minds?
The fact that the electoral process was designed to blocks blacks from voting and the fact that pre-registration means you can't decide to go out and vote on the last minute because of a tight race cannot be explained. I'm a Math person and I fail to see how this can be explained.
While Japanese did the same thing in New York City, they failed miserably - people simply moved to the burbs.
This, for one, is an awefully tight race. We normally cant care crap but this election decides a lot of things:
1. 4 supreme cour justices.
2. The man in charge when Microsoft trial really comes to an end.
I couldn't have said it better.
I personal wished the question about the election process would include the simple question, "Why is it so damn hard to vote?"
I used to laugh at people who vote for a third party, but I changed my mind.
Browne definitely sounds like a man of great vision. There are, however, some weak points:
- I agree with everything he said up to the "No income tax" part. I think that is quite irresponsible.
- Then he failed to give any answer to the question about the current electoral system.
- Browne also fails to explain "Free Market's" naughty effect - monopolistic behavior such as that of Microsoft.
- The point that Free Trade is better than defense is very brilliant. Look at Russia. And the notion that Free Trade doesn't cost jobs is also correct in any modern economists point of view.
- Browne fails to explain how a lot of people will survive in his vision. If wellfare system is taken off immediately, the country will no doubt be in chaos and violence. Simply put, some people will go out and rob if they don't have food in thier hands. This is more costly than wellfare.
Overall, thought. I feel that at least we are not fed with bullocks. We got honest answers to problems without any moral references. That's what I like.
Judging from your taste for key location. I know that you also want the CapsLock to the left of "A" and you have no idea what "click" keyboard means.
As Windows dominate the market, Pointing devices are getting better and better, while keyboards are getting worse.
If you can get one of the little DDOS wariors on that Groove thing, this will be a fast and extremely effective way to attack.
Oh.. about encryption. Yeah the files will be signed, whatever. But all it takes is to compromise the originating host. (The anti-viri providor host) or the host that provides public keys then it can propagate from there.
getting any executables is a bad idea.
Right now, at least 7 of the 9 justices are clearly conservative. There are no clear liberals in the supreme court. So, just about ANY resignation is one step towards middle ground.
Unfortunately Clinton DID get a ultra-conservative into the court. I can guarantee you, that Bush will never appoint a liberal justice.
Please remember how important supreme court decision is. It not only change the national policy, it also swings the entire world culture. We don't need another conservative justice in the supreme court. Really.
I will wait and pray for the day that liberals get back into the supreme court.
GEEZ. Give an answer that no one ask, will ya?
I think there are a lot of cool things you can do with laser bussiness cards. Some people print things for fun. Yes. Fun. For example, I would print a bussiness card with a URL on it and it goes like :
"Hi beawutiful, visit this web site to fill an application form for a chance to go out with me."
"I am going to be in North Carolina for 3 weeks and here is how to contact me."
Needless to say, labels have more uses.
I understand that you intend to help. But we must face the fact that there is a problem here. There isn't any good label printing software under UNIX.
I have tried to download some postscript based package from freshmeat. it was not very practical.
And face it, most people don't use TeX and a lot of people knows no good way of editing postscript graphics. I say this as a pure TeX user and as a graphics designer. There is a need for WYSIWYG label printer program. Current solutions are not very useful/practical.
What you are saying is, "I'm a loser; I don't want other losers to be well because they are bigger losers, they deserve to lose more than I do."
"I did what I think I should do; now give me the candy and punish the other kid." The truth is, people with this kind of attitude do not deserve to make a lot of money, because they cannot think outside the box. They are little bolts and nuts of the society; just as important as the next blue collar worker. What makes you money is not "following the rules" but to do something new; to make an impact. But no, you cannot do that so you blame the government for taking your money away. No one likes to pay taxes. But some CHOOSE to bitch and moan about it.
Projects and small towns. Have you talked to anyone who came from that background? I have. In fact, many of them were born there, moved out and are doing fine. If you know any of these people in person, you would know why these people deserve a chance. Wellfare does not make them rich. It gives them a little bit of chance to breath.
Linus Torvalds was in college for 9 years. During this time, the finland govn't paid for his expenses. But anyone can rule him out as "unproductive", right?
Who are you to judge?
I am not saying that they are all productive. I am saying that, sometimes, it's just a phase. Sometimes we have great people coming out of those backgrounds. They deserve a chance more than you deserve a HDTV.
I don't understand you conservatives wanting pro-life but you imply that the baby can simply be taken away. Is that what your religions teach you? Is that why Jesus dies for you? so that you can enjoy life a little more, and let the poor suffer and die? Gee. Why is it that Conservatives talk about God and morals when they talk about sexuality issues, but when it comes to wellfare, they prefer leaving the poor out in the cold? What happens to your morals and good will? It's selective, isn't it?
If the tax goes up to %50+ percent, so what? Just figure out a way to make more. There is always a way. That's a winner's attitude.
Why can't you BE A MAN and say, "OK, the government's highest tax rate is Y; but I want X, so let me go out and make X/(1+Y)."
But you can't. So instead, you just sit there and whine about tax rate.
Philip Glass, the master of contempo minimalist music drove a Taxi in new York City for over a decade. Was he unproductive? No. Paul Erdos, the great Mathematician whose work created the field of Graph Theory and generally regarded as the most prolifit Mathematician since Euler, had no bank account, no house, no job. Was he unproductive? No. In fact, graph theory is widely used in computer Science so he was way more productive than you. Your MickeyD drive through servers are all making 5 bucks and hour and what will happen if they all quit today?
You are reading slashdot. This forum was created by two young kids in thier early 20's. They were not making much money when they started. Just a few years ago, people would post comments like, "Rob, quit drooling at the toys and get a real job!" But were they "unproductive?" Yahoo is created by grad students in school. They weren't getting paid, were they unproductive?
You have never been down and out before, and that is why you have to whine like a loser. A true winner will never whine, even if he's making nil. Truth is, many extremely successful people have been homeless or poor. They will eventually become successful when something starts to click.
Why do you think you can measure people's intelligence and productivity with thier salary? If that was the case, then Larry Wall was not very productive when he started writing Perl because no one paid him. Linus Torvald is not even 1/100 time as productive as Ricky Martin. Did they whine about taxes? No. Because they are winners. Microsoft cannot buy these people, because they know their self worth cannot be measured with money.
Some people will never satisfy. Why can't you be thankful that you have good parents, good luck and that you have a nice paying job. You are not starving and why are you crying like a baby. You have a roof on top of you, be thankful. You have access to a computer, be thankful of that, too. Quit whinning.
You remind me of Tom Cruise in that film "Rainman." This guy got a good report card, showed it to his dad, and demand that his dad let him take his car out for a ride "because I deserve it." Then he left home and 20 years later after his father died, he "demand to have half of the estate." Because? he deserves that, too.
American's tax rate is not quite as high as that of European. If you want, you can move to Hong Kong or other extremely capitalised country.