Judging by the application they list under their performance page (DNA sequnecing, other proffesional and scientific apps) G5 systems arent marketed towards your grandma. But hey including questionable spec numbers is a step up from the old "pentium burning supercomputer-on-a-chip" campaign.
If they were really interested in providing users with realistic benchmark results, they would have submited their systems for the offcial spec testing, insted they opted to hire some 3rd party company. (wonder what NDA they had to sign for that?) this stinks of the tpc benchark disaster.
Why not release an unsupported x86 version so people
can play with it before moving on to the real thing?
Sort of like Solaris for x86? If you remember both Beos5PE and QNX both scored over a million downloads so there is definetly an auince for this kind of thing.
How is it MORAL to go after a few guys whow anted to play something that feels like a 10 year old games? It's not like they were going to sell it.
Maybe you think whoeve owns the Civilizations series trademark should go after FreeCiv too?
What's wrong with you sig?? MS had a fully multitasking memory protected OS before Linus even started working on his Minix terminal programm.
I'm talking about NT here, lets not even brong Xenix into discussion.
Thats OK, I couldnt even install the java plugin on linux, because apparently the java plugin was compiled with pre 3.X gcc and mozilla 1.4 itself was compiled with gcc 3+, is there a compatible java plugin for recent mozilla somewhere?
Yet sopmehow its more fun to do it the old way, I never actually built my own cpu but back in the mid 80s in Russia even the most primitive consumer computers werent avalible, variuos hobbist schematics were published in electronics magazines and I had to hunt down russian copies of 8but cpus and other chips on the black market then solder them
onto homemade boards (makinf the boards from special pastic required lots of hard to find chemicals and took along time too)
I have to say I'm not pleased with your FUD, cheaper!=worse, as I Russian programmer I'm better educated, produce higher quality code and work faster than my amaerican counterparts. When american pupils start leanring diffrential quations and linear algebra in 6th grade than maybe we I will start taking "americaN quality" more seriously. Ftrom what I know US high-tech sector survives because of 1st and 2nd generation immigrants after that they become instutionalized turning into apathetic exuse for a human being with an attention span of 10 seconds and intelligence of a fruit fly. Sorry if this has turned out too much of a flame but I belive Americans have been taking their wealth for granted for far too long. You really out to shape up and learn how to compete again.
Hi,
First of all this person is just a call center monkey, actual programmer make $600+, $200 covers pretty much only the basics, $500+ is eqilent to probably around $25k/y in the US, so its more like lower middle class lifestyle in the States, but since most ppl around you make 3 times less you kinda feel like a rich person.
We don't have electricity problems in Novosibirsk either... I dont know where you get your ideas about Russia but electircity, phone and intenrnet services including hihg speed access are perfectly avalible.
What part of 'common sense' you dont understand? Hundreds of thousand documents are published on the intenet everyday in the US alone, what do you suppose would happen if every author was required to contact some us copyright registration authority before they can publish???? Btw people like you give is why everyone in the world hates US.
Is your nation proud of using legal loopholes to sidestep the Geneva convention? Is it really ok to keep people in concentration camps indefenietly just because taliban failed to provide them with western styled uniforms? What happened to the presumption of innocense and the right to speedy trial? Think about it even the worst Nazi criminals got a trial, aand ccess to lawers.
On the surface the war does apper to have some good side-effects for the Iraquis, but what will happen to them when the Road map fails and US again loses intrests in the middle-east? I predict enfless civil war ending up in the formation of iranian style fundamentalist state.
Why should Linux users take your claim seriously? Think about if I was the CIO of a company and I'm going to be running my business on an operating system that has an intellectual property foundation that, by almost everyone's admission, is built on quicksand.
Everyone at SCO maybe...
The development process has no one that is ensuring that inappropriate code is not getting into Linux. All that's there is an honor system, and obviously there are a few, at least, that have broken that honor.
The only things thats obvious here is that SCO up for one hell of an asspounding from IBM
I disagree, while I certainly wouldnt trust a self taught nuclear physist to design reactors, CS is one field where a dedicated person can reach exceptional heights w/o going to collge.
All of the ingredients are easily accessble all it takes is interest in the subject and wuill to leabnr the boring bits.
I'm a "self-taught" programmer but I hate to admit thats he is right. Computer Scientists are the people who do thworetical work like come up with new algorithms and other math heavey stuff.
Programmers work is more similar to craftsmens, implement algorithms that "smart" cs peoole have developed for us.
Thank you for your post. I'm russian working for and IT firm. Racketeering mostly belongs to the early-mid 90s. WE still have to pay bribes to various municiapl controlling agencies like fire department and health department tho.
Murder is not unique to the US, yet most developed and many developing countries have abolished dp. I live in Russia and I'm proud that we did it 3 years ago. Killing a defesnless person 20 years after the crime took place has nothing to do with punishement its revenge plain and simple.
I think what he meant is that while other species become successful by adapting to the nature (ants)
humans on the other hand adapt nature to them. We can now move faster, fly hugher and dive deepr:) than any other species on Earth not because we have adapted by growing wings and gills but thru creative manupulation of the enviroment. This infact becoming repsonisble for our own destiny.
Somwhere oin the lisense help section they cliam that you are not allowed to charge for stuff developed with GPLed QT (even if you application is GPL) which clearly imposes illegal restriction on GPL
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Judging by the application they list under their performance page (DNA sequnecing, other proffesional and scientific apps) G5 systems arent marketed towards your grandma. But hey including questionable spec numbers is a step up from the old "pentium burning supercomputer-on-a-chip" campaign.
If they were really interested in providing users with realistic benchmark results, they would have submited their systems for the offcial spec testing, insted they opted to hire some 3rd party company. (wonder what NDA they had to sign for that?) this stinks of the tpc benchark disaster.
Why not release an unsupported x86 version so people can play with it before moving on to the real thing? Sort of like Solaris for x86? If you remember both Beos5PE and QNX both scored over a million downloads so there is definetly an auince for this kind of thing.
How is it MORAL to go after a few guys whow anted to play something that feels like a 10 year old games? It's not like they were going to sell it. Maybe you think whoeve owns the Civilizations series trademark should go after FreeCiv too?
What's wrong with you sig?? MS had a fully multitasking memory protected OS before Linus even started working on his Minix terminal programm. I'm talking about NT here, lets not even brong Xenix into discussion.
Thats OK, I couldnt even install the java plugin on linux, because apparently the java plugin was compiled with pre 3.X gcc and mozilla 1.4 itself was compiled with gcc 3+, is there a compatible java plugin for recent mozilla somewhere?
Would it fall into the "Natural disasters" category?
Yet sopmehow its more fun to do it the old way, I never actually built my own cpu but back in the mid 80s in Russia even the most primitive consumer computers werent avalible, variuos hobbist schematics were published in electronics magazines and I had to hunt down russian copies of 8but cpus and other chips on the black market then solder them onto homemade boards (makinf the boards from special pastic required lots of hard to find chemicals and took along time too)
We all know that Physics is the only true science, everything else just uses various useful models. So you're really in the same boat with CS people.
I have to say I'm not pleased with your FUD, cheaper!=worse, as I Russian programmer I'm better educated, produce higher quality code and work faster than my amaerican counterparts. When american pupils start leanring diffrential quations and linear algebra in 6th grade than maybe we I will start taking "americaN quality" more seriously. Ftrom what I know US high-tech sector survives because of 1st and 2nd generation immigrants after that they become instutionalized turning into apathetic exuse for a human being with an attention span of 10 seconds and intelligence of a fruit fly.
Sorry if this has turned out too much of a flame but I belive Americans have been taking their wealth for granted for far too long. You really out to shape up and learn how to compete again.
Hi, First of all this person is just a call center monkey, actual programmer make $600+, $200 covers pretty much only the basics, $500+ is eqilent to probably around $25k/y in the US, so its more like lower middle class lifestyle in the States, but since most ppl around you make 3 times less you kinda feel like a rich person.
We don't have electricity problems in Novosibirsk either... I dont know where you get your ideas about Russia but electircity, phone and intenrnet services including hihg speed access are perfectly avalible.
What part of 'common sense' you dont understand? Hundreds of thousand documents are published on the intenet everyday in the US alone, what do you suppose would happen if every author was required to contact some us copyright registration authority before they can publish????
Btw people like you give is why everyone in the world hates US.
Wow scary, thank God I live in Russia then, I can get all of that on an enginerrng soft collection cd at a soft kiosk for about 2 bucks :)
Is your nation proud of using legal loopholes to sidestep the Geneva convention? Is it really ok to keep people in concentration camps indefenietly just because taliban failed to provide them with western styled uniforms? What happened to the presumption of innocense and the right to speedy trial? Think about it even the worst Nazi criminals got a trial, aand ccess to lawers.
On the surface the war does apper to have some good side-effects for the Iraquis, but what will happen to them when the Road map fails and US again loses intrests in the middle-east? I predict enfless civil war ending up in the formation of iranian style fundamentalist state.
Everyone at SCO maybe...
The development process has no one that is ensuring that inappropriate code is not getting into Linux. All that's there is an honor system, and obviously there are a few, at least, that have broken that honor.
The only things thats obvious here is that SCO up for one hell of an asspounding from IBM
I disagree, while I certainly wouldnt trust a self taught nuclear physist to design reactors, CS is one field where a dedicated person can reach exceptional heights w/o going to collge. All of the ingredients are easily accessble all it takes is interest in the subject and wuill to leabnr the boring bits.
I'm a "self-taught" programmer but I hate to admit thats he is right. Computer Scientists are the people who do thworetical work like come up with new algorithms and other math heavey stuff. Programmers work is more similar to craftsmens, implement algorithms that "smart" cs peoole have developed for us.
Thank you for your post. I'm russian working for and IT firm. Racketeering mostly belongs to the early-mid 90s. WE still have to pay bribes to various municiapl controlling agencies like fire department and health department tho.
Murder is not unique to the US, yet most developed and many developing countries have abolished dp. I live in Russia and I'm proud that we did it 3 years ago. Killing a defesnless person 20 years after the crime took place has nothing to do with punishement its revenge plain and simple.
I think what he meant is that while other species become successful by adapting to the nature (ants) humans on the other hand adapt nature to them. We can now move faster, fly hugher and dive deepr :) than any other species on Earth not because we have adapted by growing wings and gills but thru creative manupulation of the enviroment. This infact becoming repsonisble for our own destiny.
Somwhere oin the lisense help section they cliam that you are not allowed to charge for stuff developed with GPLed QT (even if you application is GPL) which clearly imposes illegal restriction on GPL
Who exactly elected RMS as a Linux leader?