Ahahahahahahaha... Man, you're a moron aren't you! I guess you never watch ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, read Time or the NYTs or LA Times or the Chicago Trib... Yeah, it's all Fox News fault... Man, can you walk and talk at the same time?
They're equally stupid now as then. Sok though, Time is going under rapidly and I, for one, can't wait to see it disappear into the dustbin of history. To bad Time can't take the New York Times (i.e. Pravda west) with it.
You talked to a pretty wide variety of people over the span of shows I've seen. Some of them were pretty much what you would expect but several really impressed me as far different than I would of thought. Of all the interviews you performed in this series who surprised you the most and why?
This was in the UK ("Peace in our time", let's not offend the Germans in 1938 cause they might hurt us...) not the US ("billions for defense but not one penny for tribute" and "Damn the torpedoes full speed ahead"). The Westboro "Church" morons are in the US where we believe in "Freedom of Speech" and "I don't agree with what you say but I'll defend to my death your right to say it" and all that stuff that separates us from the animals and socialists of the world....
So now, if I'm in authority, and I don't like what you say I can have you tossed in jail! Man, this just seems like such a good idea!
This is the kinda stuff that really warms my heart when reading UK heavy blogs like \. that just love beating on the US. Can't wait until you put Shariah Law in place and the Islamic cavemen get to tell you when and how to take a crap. So much for the Magna Carta...
"And really. When it comes down to it, how is the organisation of the modern corporation, with it's CEO, directors, officers and hierarchy of management bearing Q10's and quarterly projections any different from the Supreme Soviet, commissars, apparatchiks and 5-year plans? Not at all."
Uh... lets see... Stalin murdered nearly 40 million Soviet citizens to enforce his iron fisted insanity that ended in a utter poverty and complete failure of the government. Mao Zedong did pretty much the same except the Chinese have learned and now embrace "evil" capitalism and are beating us at our own game (mostly because we've abandoned that game btw). CEO's, directors and officers... not so much. I've worked for several LARGE corporations and I was free to quit (and have) whenever I chose. The Soviet citizens and the Chinese workers could choose between being a state slave and being dead. I agree with your previous statements but that last paragraph is demonstrably fallacious (and very disrespectful to the millions that have suffered and died at the hands of communist animals truth be told...).
Well I didn't expect a rational answer to my sarcastic rant but you seem to have managed.
My personal feeling is that human beings cannot be pre-judged individually. However in groups certain behavior patterns are fairly clean and they've been documented. As to whether this due to societal or external pressures or some racial/sexual systemic issue who knows? I suspect there's so much complexity in the drives of individuals in large groups it may be impossible to analyze any behavior beyond the first or second order reactions.
'Hans plays with Lotty, Lotty plays with Jan, Jan plays with Willy, Willy is happy again. Suki plays with Leo, Sasha plays with grit. Adolf builds a bonfire Enrico plays with it".....
Well, blacks do need more need help. It's well established black's are just not as bright as other races so it makes perfect sense to give them more priority for science work. I mean. It's just fair right? This about making everything fair. In fact I think that the lighter races should be subjected to lobotomies just to even the playing field. I'm sure most Slashdotters won't need it but there's just so many unjustly smart people in this world it just makes sense to level the playing field...
(I'm just dying for the morons that will reply to this....)
Yeah.... because walking into the nearest ER (as most illegals, of which we have tens of millions, do EVERY DAMN DAY) just doesn't work eh? You should get a job in health care moron. We treat 10x as many people free as we do those that actually PAY FOR WHAT THEY TAKE!! Of course you're a genius that thinks everything should be free which is why you give ALL your money to taxes and charity right? Oh you don't? Why you're a jackbooted conservative aren't you! You just want to steal from the hard working poor and keep it all for you own greedy self! You should be branded! You should be shot!
Now walk down the street to your nearest Pot Emporium, get another bag of dope with your Medical card and go back to your THC induced state of delirium. You're an idiot. Do us all a favor and keep your opinions to yourself....
After working with embedded linux for a number of years on Coldfire and ARM processors I just started working with Windows Automotive 7 for ARM. After about 6 months of this my opinion is: DEAR LORD GIVE ME BACK MY PENGUIN!!!!!
I've done a lot of hiring in the last ten years and I've got to say that the school someone graduated from is less an indicator of ability than experience. In the absence of experience I'm not going to give a Stanford grad any more credit than an ITT grad for at least 6 months. I've hired and worked with individuals that graduated from ITT and Devry and most were pretty good with two being REALLY EXCELLENT engineers. Far better than the Stanford and Harvard grads I also worked with. That's not enough data points to draw too many conclusions but I was surprised there wasn't more distinction.
A lot of big name school graduates have a sense of entitlement and superiority that just isn't reflected in their work. I graduated from a big name school myself so it's not sour grapes. Tech people are the sum of their experience, including school, and what you take from school is often what you put into it. A guy that did a mediocre job at Stanford isn't going to be a bright star at work either....
As any science minded person knows (science being the pursuit of truth, not convention) evolution isn't the ONLY possible explanation for life as we know it and the other possibilities (regardless of what the EDUCATION OVERLORDS think) need to be considered. If, as implied, "well trained" means that unless they carry the company line and "believe" in evolution, you're not well trained, is disgusting and counter to scientific precepts.
We need more science and less conventional thinking...
You're all ignoring the possibility that these guys are less scientists than businessmen. Just because nuclear physics has traditionally be a field dominated by pure science doesn't mean that these guys haven't stumbled on something they can make money with and they don't care about the tradition of sharing and proving the knowledge within the scientific community. It's possible, in theory anyway... That said, I don't believe it for a minute. I just felt the need to bring out the possibility.
I'm sure this is no more real than a lot of these hoaxes that have been floated. Hell, maybe they're investing in the nickel market and selling copper short just because some trader out there will believe this silliness and invest accordingly. I've never met a business puke that didn't think perception was reality. Even worked for a CIO that would say that emphatically (company went under, imagine that....).
"They're even more "cost effective" if you don't ignore the externalities, like damage to the environment.
And they last longer than incandescent bulbs too, usually 10x as long."
Total bullshit. I've had incandescent bulbs last years. I've never had a CF last more than 6 months. I'll bet you've never used one in your life. Typical lib. Too good for your own rhetoric.
"We've passed peak oil, so the price will go up in the long term, no matter what anybody does. Climate change or environmental science has nothing to do with it.
Moving away from oil is a good idea for that reason alone, even if you don't care about the future of the planet's environment."
The only environment you care about is the one between your ears. Oil is cheap, plentiful and extremely clean given modern processes. We've spent 100 years making EXTREMELY clean and efficient internal combustion engines. The only reason the price is as high as it is is because the US has a President that's blowing the Saudi's every time they lift their little skirts. There's enough oil to last us, even given the current rate of increase, 100's of years and some think much more due to improved extraction technologies. You could make a lot more convincing arguments if you had any facts. (admittedly tough when you're full of shit though...)
"Huge pieces of foam falling off have been happening for a long time, it was a known engineering problem caused by a faulty design that compromised too much strength to reduce weight, and had nothing to do with 'saving the environment'."
Again, WRONG! Small pieces have been falling for a long time. The HUGE pieces started with the new material. It killed our astronauts. Save the whales kill the people. Typical eco freak.
You love the environment so much? Go live in it! But I'll bet you're in the middle of a big city aren't you? Nice duplex condo in Century City with a hot tub and a pool. Delude yourself into thinking that the little hikes in the woods you take on the weekends makes you a lover of nature. Yeah, I know your kind. You'll be a nature lover one day when one of those "endangered" mountain lions that are now taking over Southern California rips your damn throat open. Get over yourself. Try putting people first. You want to be green, got to Africa. See how they love living off the land. You'll have a tough time finding someone that wouldn't trade places with you in the big ugly city in a heartbeat. It's not oppression from greenies it's fascism. They've killed more people than war and people need to realize it and start fighting back.
The image I saw was a piece of foam from the external tank (not the SRB's, my mistake) striking the leading edge of a wing. Tests showed, beyond question, that this would have caused a hole in the protective tiles on that leading edge that would have caused the failure that occured. The tank coating was changed to satisfy some misplaced need to please environ"mental"ist nuts and the "size" of the pieces of foam breaking free increased dramatically from the prior coating. NASA was aware of it but not of the danger it presented to the shuttle.
If you study the history of environmentalism you will find it's killed more humans than all the wars combined. The 50,000,000 deaths caused by the banning of DDT should, all by itself, convince people that those that present themselves as defenders of the environment should be treated with EXTREME SUSPICION!
Yeah, and nobody's pushing those CF bulbs (to the point of outlawing the cheaper alternative) with a plethora of dangerous chemicals and shorter lifespans and order of magnitude higher price than incandescents. Nobody is working to run the price of oil up. Nobody forced NASA to use an inferior (but Greener, just ask 'em) material on the (6, count 'em, 6) SRB's of the Columbia leading to a failure that caused the loss of that shuttle and crew.
Yeah, nobody's doing anything bad in the name of environmentalism right? "These aren't the droids we're looking for. Move on"....
You're right. There is no debate. No legitimate scientist believes in global warming as a condition caused by human activity and there's very little evidence of warming at all (in fact there's a lot of historical evidence that we're entering a cooling period). The fact that people blame oil companies for this type of thing would be funny if it weren't so stupid.
You need to do a little reading outside of the NY or LA Times son...
The fact is the debate would be too boring for anyone to care. If there is a warming trend or a cooling trend (and there's no clear evidence either way, face it...) we're talking about a temperature change so small no one not using this as an excuse to get more funding for something or get (re-)elected cares. That's why it's so insane. Those that want to embrace the whole "Climate change" insanity couldn't care less about the climate (Hello Al....) they just want power over others and money to do as they please.
THIS HAS NEVER BEEN ABOUT SCIENCE OR CLIMATE (any more than traffic tickets are about public safety)!! WAKE THE HELL UP!
You're missing something, though, You fail to realize that a lot of what he's talking about are extremely subjective things anyway. There was a time when using the word nigger to refer to a black person was simply a label. The plight of blacks as slaves made word derogatory and upsetting to blacks. The fanatical movements of the 70's and 80's have made it a rallying call that actually underscores the implicit racism that is now completely accepted in blacks and criminalized (hate crimes for heavens sake!!) in whites. There's a white news reporter going to court right now because he was fired for using the word nigger in the same conversation two black reporters used the same language in. This is how crazy it gets when we allow government to recognize "SPECIAL" groups for "SPECIAL" treatment (good and bad). It's how we got slavery and it's how we get the racism we have today. Both were/are unrecognised/acceptable in their time which is why what the gentleman that started this thread is proposing is ridiculous. It would not only be undesirable (unless you hate history, culture and truth) but impossible in any case.
Where to start, where to start. First off just let me say ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FRIGG'IN MIND!! I hate to do the label thing but liberalism is truly a mental disease.
More insidious is the fact that it seems fine with you to destroy heritage and culture in the name of "making everyone comfortable" (which is, of course, impossible on it's face). Surely (maybe not but I gotta give you the benefit of the doubt) you realize that what's acceptable today is often totally unacceptable tomorrow so are you just going to re-write everything continuously to meet some fanatical nuts idea of what's "correct". I hate the term "my bad" so I'll just be offended by it and see that it gets removed from all media past and future. Now get to work!
I'm having trouble believing anyone could be so wrong minded as to think that what you're proposing would be anything but a disaster for knowledge and truth. Truly the "1984" vision of a fanatical State that re-writes history to fit the model the little people are required to live up to. Do you really know what you're asking at all I wonder?
The cavalier attitude the current generation has about history and truth and reality scares the hell out of me and your comment really underscores why. Unbelievable!!
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Ahahahahahahaha... Man, you're a moron aren't you! I guess you never watch ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, read Time or the NYTs or LA Times or the Chicago Trib... Yeah, it's all Fox News fault... Man, can you walk and talk at the same time?
They're equally stupid now as then. Sok though, Time is going under rapidly and I, for one, can't wait to see it disappear into the dustbin of history. To bad Time can't take the New York Times (i.e. Pravda west) with it.
You talked to a pretty wide variety of people over the span of shows I've seen. Some of them were pretty much what you would expect but several really impressed me as far different than I would of thought. Of all the interviews you performed in this series who surprised you the most and why?
This was in the UK ("Peace in our time", let's not offend the Germans in 1938 cause they might hurt us...) not the US ("billions for defense but not one penny for tribute" and "Damn the torpedoes full speed ahead"). The Westboro "Church" morons are in the US where we believe in "Freedom of Speech" and "I don't agree with what you say but I'll defend to my death your right to say it" and all that stuff that separates us from the animals and socialists of the world....
So now, if I'm in authority, and I don't like what you say I can have you tossed in jail! Man, this just seems like such a good idea!
This is the kinda stuff that really warms my heart when reading UK heavy blogs like \. that just love beating on the US. Can't wait until you put Shariah Law in place and the Islamic cavemen get to tell you when and how to take a crap. So much for the Magna Carta...
"And really. When it comes down to it, how is the organisation of the modern corporation, with it's CEO, directors, officers and hierarchy of management bearing Q10's and quarterly projections any different from the Supreme Soviet, commissars, apparatchiks and 5-year plans? Not at all."
Uh... lets see... Stalin murdered nearly 40 million Soviet citizens to enforce his iron fisted insanity that ended in a utter poverty and complete failure of the government. Mao Zedong did pretty much the same except the Chinese have learned and now embrace "evil" capitalism and are beating us at our own game (mostly because we've abandoned that game btw). CEO's, directors and officers... not so much. I've worked for several LARGE corporations and I was free to quit (and have) whenever I chose. The Soviet citizens and the Chinese workers could choose between being a state slave and being dead. I agree with your previous statements but that last paragraph is demonstrably fallacious (and very disrespectful to the millions that have suffered and died at the hands of communist animals truth be told...).
Well I didn't expect a rational answer to my sarcastic rant but you seem to have managed.
My personal feeling is that human beings cannot be pre-judged individually. However in groups certain behavior patterns are fairly clean and they've been documented. As to whether this due to societal or external pressures or some racial/sexual systemic issue who knows? I suspect there's so much complexity in the drives of individuals in large groups it may be impossible to analyze any behavior beyond the first or second order reactions.
'Hans plays with Lotty, Lotty plays with Jan, Jan plays with Willy, Willy is happy again. Suki plays with Leo, Sasha plays with grit. Adolf builds a bonfire Enrico plays with it".....
Well, blacks do need more need help. It's well established black's are just not as bright as other races so it makes perfect sense to give them more priority for science work. I mean. It's just fair right? This about making everything fair. In fact I think that the lighter races should be subjected to lobotomies just to even the playing field. I'm sure most Slashdotters won't need it but there's just so many unjustly smart people in this world it just makes sense to level the playing field...
(I'm just dying for the morons that will reply to this....)
Yeah, nothing God given about intelligence. It comes from public schools and McColleges right? Intelligence is given, knowledge is worked for.
And Geeks are alcoholics that get paid to bite the head of chickens at county fairs. No idea why anyone would want to be called a geek...
Yeah.... because walking into the nearest ER (as most illegals, of which we have tens of millions, do EVERY DAMN DAY) just doesn't work eh? You should get a job in health care moron. We treat 10x as many people free as we do those that actually PAY FOR WHAT THEY TAKE!! Of course you're a genius that thinks everything should be free which is why you give ALL your money to taxes and charity right? Oh you don't? Why you're a jackbooted conservative aren't you! You just want to steal from the hard working poor and keep it all for you own greedy self! You should be branded! You should be shot!
Now walk down the street to your nearest Pot Emporium, get another bag of dope with your Medical card and go back to your THC induced state of delirium. You're an idiot. Do us all a favor and keep your opinions to yourself....
After working with embedded linux for a number of years on Coldfire and ARM processors I just started working with Windows Automotive 7 for ARM. After about 6 months of this my opinion is: DEAR LORD GIVE ME BACK MY PENGUIN!!!!!
Really? You pray? To what?
I've done a lot of hiring in the last ten years and I've got to say that the school someone graduated from is less an indicator of ability than experience. In the absence of experience I'm not going to give a Stanford grad any more credit than an ITT grad for at least 6 months. I've hired and worked with individuals that graduated from ITT and Devry and most were pretty good with two being REALLY EXCELLENT engineers. Far better than the Stanford and Harvard grads I also worked with. That's not enough data points to draw too many conclusions but I was surprised there wasn't more distinction.
A lot of big name school graduates have a sense of entitlement and superiority that just isn't reflected in their work. I graduated from a big name school myself so it's not sour grapes. Tech people are the sum of their experience, including school, and what you take from school is often what you put into it. A guy that did a mediocre job at Stanford isn't going to be a bright star at work either....
They are so cute.....
As any science minded person knows (science being the pursuit of truth, not convention) evolution isn't the ONLY possible explanation for life as we know it and the other possibilities (regardless of what the EDUCATION OVERLORDS think) need to be considered. If, as implied, "well trained" means that unless they carry the company line and "believe" in evolution, you're not well trained, is disgusting and counter to scientific precepts.
We need more science and less conventional thinking...
You're all ignoring the possibility that these guys are less scientists than businessmen. Just because nuclear physics has traditionally be a field dominated by pure science doesn't mean that these guys haven't stumbled on something they can make money with and they don't care about the tradition of sharing and proving the knowledge within the scientific community. It's possible, in theory anyway... That said, I don't believe it for a minute. I just felt the need to bring out the possibility.
I'm sure this is no more real than a lot of these hoaxes that have been floated. Hell, maybe they're investing in the nickel market and selling copper short just because some trader out there will believe this silliness and invest accordingly. I've never met a business puke that didn't think perception was reality. Even worked for a CIO that would say that emphatically (company went under, imagine that....).
trying to fix my karma here folks. How 'bout a nice 5!
"They're even more "cost effective" if you don't ignore the externalities, like damage to the environment.
And they last longer than incandescent bulbs too, usually 10x as long."
Total bullshit. I've had incandescent bulbs last years. I've never had a CF last more than 6 months. I'll bet you've never used one in your life. Typical lib. Too good for your own rhetoric.
"We've passed peak oil, so the price will go up in the long term, no matter what anybody does. Climate change or environmental science has nothing to do with it.
Moving away from oil is a good idea for that reason alone, even if you don't care about the future of the planet's environment."
The only environment you care about is the one between your ears. Oil is cheap, plentiful and extremely clean given modern processes. We've spent 100 years making EXTREMELY clean and efficient internal combustion engines. The only reason the price is as high as it is is because the US has a President that's blowing the Saudi's every time they lift their little skirts. There's enough oil to last us, even given the current rate of increase, 100's of years and some think much more due to improved extraction technologies. You could make a lot more convincing arguments if you had any facts. (admittedly tough when you're full of shit though...)
"Huge pieces of foam falling off have been happening for a long time, it was a known engineering problem caused by a faulty design that compromised too much strength to reduce weight, and had nothing to do with 'saving the environment'."
Again, WRONG! Small pieces have been falling for a long time. The HUGE pieces started with the new material. It killed our astronauts. Save the whales kill the people. Typical eco freak.
You love the environment so much? Go live in it! But I'll bet you're in the middle of a big city aren't you? Nice duplex condo in Century City with a hot tub and a pool. Delude yourself into thinking that the little hikes in the woods you take on the weekends makes you a lover of nature. Yeah, I know your kind. You'll be a nature lover one day when one of those "endangered" mountain lions that are now taking over Southern California rips your damn throat open. Get over yourself. Try putting people first. You want to be green, got to Africa. See how they love living off the land. You'll have a tough time finding someone that wouldn't trade places with you in the big ugly city in a heartbeat. It's not oppression from greenies it's fascism. They've killed more people than war and people need to realize it and start fighting back.
The image I saw was a piece of foam from the external tank (not the SRB's, my mistake) striking the leading edge of a wing. Tests showed, beyond question, that this would have caused a hole in the protective tiles on that leading edge that would have caused the failure that occured. The tank coating was changed to satisfy some misplaced need to please environ"mental"ist nuts and the "size" of the pieces of foam breaking free increased dramatically from the prior coating. NASA was aware of it but not of the danger it presented to the shuttle.
If you study the history of environmentalism you will find it's killed more humans than all the wars combined. The 50,000,000 deaths caused by the banning of DDT should, all by itself, convince people that those that present themselves as defenders of the environment should be treated with EXTREME SUSPICION!
Yeah, and nobody's pushing those CF bulbs (to the point of outlawing the cheaper alternative) with a plethora of dangerous chemicals and shorter lifespans and order of magnitude higher price than incandescents. Nobody is working to run the price of oil up. Nobody forced NASA to use an inferior (but Greener, just ask 'em) material on the (6, count 'em, 6) SRB's of the Columbia leading to a failure that caused the loss of that shuttle and crew.
Yeah, nobody's doing anything bad in the name of environmentalism right? "These aren't the droids we're looking for. Move on"....
You're right. There is no debate. No legitimate scientist believes in global warming as a condition caused by human activity and there's very little evidence of warming at all (in fact there's a lot of historical evidence that we're entering a cooling period). The fact that people blame oil companies for this type of thing would be funny if it weren't so stupid.
You need to do a little reading outside of the NY or LA Times son...
The fact is the debate would be too boring for anyone to care. If there is a warming trend or a cooling trend (and there's no clear evidence either way, face it...) we're talking about a temperature change so small no one not using this as an excuse to get more funding for something or get (re-)elected cares. That's why it's so insane. Those that want to embrace the whole "Climate change" insanity couldn't care less about the climate (Hello Al....) they just want power over others and money to do as they please.
THIS HAS NEVER BEEN ABOUT SCIENCE OR CLIMATE (any more than traffic tickets are about public safety)!! WAKE THE HELL UP!
Or a Slashdot poster imagining that anyone cares about their opinion... Oh, yeah, damn....
You're missing something, though, You fail to realize that a lot of what he's talking about are extremely subjective things anyway. There was a time when using the word nigger to refer to a black person was simply a label. The plight of blacks as slaves made word derogatory and upsetting to blacks. The fanatical movements of the 70's and 80's have made it a rallying call that actually underscores the implicit racism that is now completely accepted in blacks and criminalized (hate crimes for heavens sake!!) in whites. There's a white news reporter going to court right now because he was fired for using the word nigger in the same conversation two black reporters used the same language in. This is how crazy it gets when we allow government to recognize "SPECIAL" groups for "SPECIAL" treatment (good and bad). It's how we got slavery and it's how we get the racism we have today. Both were/are unrecognised/acceptable in their time which is why what the gentleman that started this thread is proposing is ridiculous. It would not only be undesirable (unless you hate history, culture and truth) but impossible in any case.
Where to start, where to start. First off just let me say ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FRIGG'IN MIND!! I hate to do the label thing but liberalism is truly a mental disease.
More insidious is the fact that it seems fine with you to destroy heritage and culture in the name of "making everyone comfortable" (which is, of course, impossible on it's face). Surely (maybe not but I gotta give you the benefit of the doubt) you realize that what's acceptable today is often totally unacceptable tomorrow so are you just going to re-write everything continuously to meet some fanatical nuts idea of what's "correct". I hate the term "my bad" so I'll just be offended by it and see that it gets removed from all media past and future. Now get to work!
I'm having trouble believing anyone could be so wrong minded as to think that what you're proposing would be anything but a disaster for knowledge and truth. Truly the "1984" vision of a fanatical State that re-writes history to fit the model the little people are required to live up to. Do you really know what you're asking at all I wonder?
The cavalier attitude the current generation has about history and truth and reality scares the hell out of me and your comment really underscores why. Unbelievable!!