The short answer is that even if nautilus-cd-burner can do the same things many things are just simpler/better in K3b.
The first example that comes to mind is burning a video CD/DVD. I'd imagine laying out all the necessary files and folder structure and then telling nautilus-cd-burner to burn that folder would work. But why bother with all that when you can just give K3b will take all the video files (and recode them for you) and images for chapter thumbnails, menu background, and do all the work for you.
Using music CDs specifically, you have to name the files to enforce your chosen playlist, then burn the folder. Not a horrible inconvenience one that isn't necessary in K3b. The only thing I prefer nautilus-cd-burner for is archiving some random folder to CDR or burning an ISO image to disc (just right-click and select Write to Disc).
When you install a deb, it goes out and gets any of the dependencies that you may need, RPM makes you go and find them yourself... which really isn't all that bad now, but back in the day, it was a PITA.
You're comparing a dependency resolver (apt) to a package format (RPM). The only things you can compare are DEB vs RPM (formats), dpkg vs rpm (single package installation/removal tools), and apt vs yum/up2date (dependency resolvers included with a standard install of debian and fedora, resp.). Fedora also has apt included in the official Fedora Extras repo on download.fedora.redhat.com.
I want to hear features of the DPKG format absent in the RPM format which make the job of dependency resolvers easier.
Yum is a hack for RPMs. At their base, their very format invites dependency problems. Red Hat has simply studied this problem and found a hack that deals with most problems.
Come down off your high horse. RH isn't forcing anybody to use anything. Their own tool, up2date, can handle RHN, yum, and apt repositories. Their adopted tool, yum, works pretty damn well. I think the only advantage that apt has is pinning, but so far the only help I've ever received from anybody on how to use it, on #debian, is "don't." Red Hat even hosts the Fedora Extras master repository, which contains apt. So park the whambulance and just use whatever you feel best suits your needs.
So you either have to track every download (have your files on sourceforge mirrors? good luck with that), or distribute it publicly.
And what about distributors who don't offer anonymous downloads for free? What if the product in question is only available in retail outlets? That's perfectly acceptable under the GPL as long as people who bought the product can get the source mailed to them for only the cost of the media and the shipping.
Linksys would have been well within their rights under the GPL to have said the source for the code on the WRT54G would only be made available to those who actually have one of the routers (proof-of-purchase off the box, itemized receipt, register the S/N, etc).
I simply don't understand why apple is so mad about these rumors!
For several valid reasons.
It's not like they're promising some features they won't implement later and get people upset. That's the nice thing about rumors, if they're wrong nobody cares!
Some people hear all the hype based on rumors, and buy stocks in the company. Then the announcement comes out, people are let down because it's not as good as the rumor, and the stock price falls. A person with a chip on their shoulder could make a few strategic rumors with specific intent to devalue the stock. It has happened before.
The other reason is, as illustrated by the most recent incident, when people violate contracts that they entered into and release confidential information to media outlets. It's illegal, and the culprit deserves to be punished. Apple wasn't trying to punish think secret for spreading rumors, they were trying to find out who gave them the information to punish the person who leaked the info.
PS - Neither of these reasons have anything to do with Apple in specific, so save the fanboy comments (don't own a Mac) and the "What if it were Microsoft" hypotheticals.
I thought had un-cancelled it (guess they only did that for 9.1). But I would imagine that the target demographic for Pro didn't change when they stopped producing a Personal edition.
They're talking about Suse Pro, which I would assume is more for corporate desktops. Normal users are the demographic for Suse Personal, which might not include Xen. If Suse Personal does include Xen, it's probably because they already integrated it with Pro, so they get it for "free."
you know, I spent a good 30 seconds pondering whether or not to correct it before posting, but thought it would follow the existing thread better if I left it that way. Anyway, I can't believe I got an informative mod for my post.
by emilymildew (646109) on Thursday March 03, @09:45AM
Mention that the next time someone talks about how outrageously expensive Macs are
by emilymildew (646109) on Thursday March 03, @10:45AM
I didn't call Macs outrageously expensive
by InadequateCamel (515839) Alter Relationship on 09:52 AM March 3rd, 2005
WOW. You must be a politician.
WOW. You must lack the capacity for logic.
Maybe you should learn to remember what you said 60 minutes ago.
Maybe you should learn to use the full quote, in context to avoid obscuring the full meaning. emilymildew said "I didn't call Macs outrageously expensive, I said that the style argument should be brought up when others do." That extra bit after the comma fully explains why you are wrong. And you should probably learn to read what other people are saying.
I had a similar problem with the wifi at several Schlotzky's locations. Although it wasn't a content filter, they seemed to block it at their DNS servers. I just opened a shell to an outside machine and did a dig to get the IPs, and put them in my/etc/hosts. I figured that was easier than trying to figure out how to tunnel my DNS requests through an SSH tunnel.
If parts of the agreements are legal bullshit, the the rest doesn't apply either.
excpet for those clauses that say "if one part of this agreement is found to be unenforceable, the rest of it shall still be enforceable until a judge says otherwise."
It's even more sinister than that, though. I remember one exploit that was in some MS signed code. Anyone could put it on their website, and people browsing the site would be prompted to install it, even on top of the patched version. If IE was set to trust all code signed by MS, you wouldn't even be prompte to install it. Since the code was signed by MS, the only they they could do was to recommend setting themselves to not be trusted by default.
I would hope this means that you can still have and LSB compliant system without having to have an SMTP daemon installed. I freaking hate that. If you want to install one on your machine, go ahead, but quit requiring me from putting one on mine where it's unwanted. I don't want log files mailed to root every night on my desktop machine with no servers running. If I need to read a log file, I will read it directly out of/var/log. But somehow I doubt that will be the case.
Did you read the full EULA? It most likely states quite clearly what adware is installed along with it. And you explicitly agree to the EULA, and thus, the installation of the adware.
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The first example that comes to mind is burning a video CD/DVD. I'd imagine laying out all the necessary files and folder structure and then telling nautilus-cd-burner to burn that folder would work. But why bother with all that when you can just give K3b will take all the video files (and recode them for you) and images for chapter thumbnails, menu background, and do all the work for you.
Using music CDs specifically, you have to name the files to enforce your chosen playlist, then burn the folder. Not a horrible inconvenience one that isn't necessary in K3b. The only thing I prefer nautilus-cd-burner for is archiving some random folder to CDR or burning an ISO image to disc (just right-click and select Write to Disc).
You're comparing a dependency resolver (apt) to a package format (RPM). The only things you can compare are DEB vs RPM (formats), dpkg vs rpm (single package installation/removal tools), and apt vs yum/up2date (dependency resolvers included with a standard install of debian and fedora, resp.). Fedora also has apt included in the official Fedora Extras repo on download.fedora.redhat.com.
I want to hear features of the DPKG format absent in the RPM format which make the job of dependency resolvers easier.
Care to elaborate?
Come down off your high horse. RH isn't forcing anybody to use anything. Their own tool, up2date, can handle RHN, yum, and apt repositories. Their adopted tool, yum, works pretty damn well. I think the only advantage that apt has is pinning, but so far the only help I've ever received from anybody on how to use it, on #debian, is "don't." Red Hat even hosts the Fedora Extras master repository, which contains apt. So park the whambulance and just use whatever you feel best suits your needs.
And what about distributors who don't offer anonymous downloads for free? What if the product in question is only available in retail outlets? That's perfectly acceptable under the GPL as long as people who bought the product can get the source mailed to them for only the cost of the media and the shipping.
Linksys would have been well within their rights under the GPL to have said the source for the code on the WRT54G would only be made available to those who actually have one of the routers (proof-of-purchase off the box, itemized receipt, register the S/N, etc).
But the code doesn't have to be distributed publically under the GPL. It only has to be distributed to those to whom the product was distributed.
but he was told he could listen at a reasonable volume.
Apple Quadra
For several valid reasons.
It's not like they're promising some features they won't implement later and get people upset. That's the nice thing about rumors, if they're wrong nobody cares!
Some people hear all the hype based on rumors, and buy stocks in the company. Then the announcement comes out, people are let down because it's not as good as the rumor, and the stock price falls. A person with a chip on their shoulder could make a few strategic rumors with specific intent to devalue the stock. It has happened before.
The other reason is, as illustrated by the most recent incident, when people violate contracts that they entered into and release confidential information to media outlets. It's illegal, and the culprit deserves to be punished. Apple wasn't trying to punish think secret for spreading rumors, they were trying to find out who gave them the information to punish the person who leaked the info.
PS - Neither of these reasons have anything to do with Apple in specific, so save the fanboy comments (don't own a Mac) and the "What if it were Microsoft" hypotheticals.
I thought had un-cancelled it (guess they only did that for 9.1). But I would imagine that the target demographic for Pro didn't change when they stopped producing a Personal edition.
The 9.3 announcement said it would include GNOME 2.10 in addition to KDE 3.4.
They're talking about Suse Pro, which I would assume is more for corporate desktops. Normal users are the demographic for Suse Personal, which might not include Xen. If Suse Personal does include Xen, it's probably because they already integrated it with Pro, so they get it for "free."
try bittornado
you know, I spent a good 30 seconds pondering whether or not to correct it before posting, but thought it would follow the existing thread better if I left it that way. Anyway, I can't believe I got an informative mod for my post.
WOW. You must lack the capacity for logic.
Maybe you should learn to remember what you said 60 minutes ago.
Maybe you should learn to use the full quote, in context to avoid obscuring the full meaning. emilymildew said "I didn't call Macs outrageously expensive, I said that the style argument should be brought up when others do." That extra bit after the comma fully explains why you are wrong. And you should probably learn to read what other people are saying.
I'd tell you, but I'd have to pay to license the patents involved.
I'm only guessing here, but he probably got his numbers from the BBC article he linked to in his post.
Presentator? Is that you, George?
I had a similar problem with the wifi at several Schlotzky's locations. Although it wasn't a content filter, they seemed to block it at their DNS servers. I just opened a shell to an outside machine and did a dig to get the IPs, and put them in my /etc/hosts. I figured that was easier than trying to figure out how to tunnel my DNS requests through an SSH tunnel.
excpet for those clauses that say "if one part of this agreement is found to be unenforceable, the rest of it shall still be enforceable until a judge says otherwise."
It's even more sinister than that, though. I remember one exploit that was in some MS signed code. Anyone could put it on their website, and people browsing the site would be prompted to install it, even on top of the patched version. If IE was set to trust all code signed by MS, you wouldn't even be prompte to install it. Since the code was signed by MS, the only they they could do was to recommend setting themselves to not be trusted by default.
Do you think that will make the music and movie markets crash crash, causing the financial empires of the RIAA and MPAA to crumble crumble?
it's a joke, you're supposed to laugh.
I would hope this means that you can still have and LSB compliant system without having to have an SMTP daemon installed. I freaking hate that. If you want to install one on your machine, go ahead, but quit requiring me from putting one on mine where it's unwanted. I don't want log files mailed to root every night on my desktop machine with no servers running. If I need to read a log file, I will read it directly out of /var/log. But somehow I doubt that will be the case.
Did you read the full EULA? It most likely states quite clearly what adware is installed along with it. And you explicitly agree to the EULA, and thus, the installation of the adware.