All mailing list programs have a potential for abuse. Really, I don't think you can take this idiot's putting this software on his site as any indication of how useful it is to spammers. He is obviously extremly stupid and doesn't give a fuck about whether it works well for spam anyway, as its he's just using it for his own spam/scam scheme. Look at Xequte's site. They obviously aren't in the business of making software for spammers. Would you sugest that nobody should make mailing list software at all?
(yes I ripped this post off, but it needs to be said again.)
First of all, why all the comments about Xequte selling spamming software? Did you all even take the time to visit the site and actually look at the software available [xequte.com]? Most of these have to do with image manipulation, and not a single word about bulk e-mail or selling e-mail addresses.
MailList King is a piece of mailing list software, you know, the kind where you can set up a mailing list for discussion, or use it to send information to your customers. He explains it clearly on his site! Sure, you can probably use it for spam, but that's not the author's fault is it? If MailList King is spamming software, then GNU Mailman [gnu.org] from GNU.ORG is too. Can you all see how ridiculous all this spam talk sounds?
If you people had actually bothered to visit the page and read the text, you would have known that the screenshot is of the scammer's site [e-buyonline.com]. Yes, those bulk e-mail programs, e-mail addresses for sale, and so on, are all completely unrelated to the author of MailList King software, apart from his program and the content of his site being ripped off by a spammer/scammer [e-buyonline.com] (it seems that the scammer has just renamed the software, but he still has the text from the actuall MailList King [xequte.com] page on his site).
As far as I can tell, all the evidence so far clearly shows that the MailList King author is not a spammer or involved in such activities. Until someone posts evidence to the contrary, I suggest that you all stop shouting about spammers when the only spammer here is the guy who ripped off Xecute's software. Seriously, people.
One thing I'm disappointed about, though, is that he didn't follow up on this. The site clearly belongs to a spammer, and he rips off other people's sites and software, making money from spamming and scamming. As mentioned above, he simply renamed the mailing list software, but the product page on the scammer's site [e-buyonline.com] still shows text taken directly from the original page [xequte.com].
I would have hoped that this spammer/scammer could have been nailed down and kicked off the 'net. Perhaps someone else can pick it up from here and track down the scammer to put an end to his online adventure?
That would be wayyyy to slow. At the higher levels of the "warez scene" there are gigabit servers that transfer things at ridiculously high speeds to other gigabit servers.
Capitalism shouldn't be a right. All it does is takes away people's freedom by making them economically dependent on their empoyers. Besides all that. the whole concept of intellectual property is crazy. One can not "own" an idea.
I'm sick of people not seeing the good science that is being done by NASA as it is. Just because it may be more science-fictiony to go to the moon doesn't make it more valuable. We will go to mars (which would be alot more benificial than going to the moon) in good time. Until then let's work on the ISS.
Intelligence is one thing, but I think we already must say that the computers of today are conscious, at least in some form, because the distinction between what is conscious and what is not can not be made. Then again, I would argue that rocks are conscious in some form as well, so maybe I'm just crazy.
Right but, you seem to be arguing that "this point" at least exists. If it exists it has some definition, and my argument is that that definition must be arbitrary, and therefore the point does not exist.
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Nuclear war
It's a motherfucker
When they push that button
Your ass gotta go!
Whatcha gonna do without your ass!
-Sun Ra
if this scammers site suddenly got knocked off the face of the internet by thousands of large UDP packets?
All mailing list programs have a potential for abuse. Really, I don't think you can take this idiot's putting this software on his site as any indication of how useful it is to spammers. He is obviously extremly stupid and doesn't give a fuck about whether it works well for spam anyway, as its he's just using it for his own spam/scam scheme. Look at Xequte's site. They obviously aren't in the business of making software for spammers. Would you sugest that nobody should make mailing list software at all?
(yes I ripped this post off, but it needs to be said again.)
First of all, why all the comments about Xequte selling spamming software? Did you all even take the time to visit the site and actually look at the software available [xequte.com]? Most of these have to do with image manipulation, and not a single word about bulk e-mail or selling e-mail addresses.
MailList King is a piece of mailing list software, you know, the kind where you can set up a mailing list for discussion, or use it to send information to your customers. He explains it clearly on his site! Sure, you can probably use it for spam, but that's not the author's fault is it? If MailList King is spamming software, then GNU Mailman [gnu.org] from GNU.ORG is too. Can you all see how ridiculous all this spam talk sounds?
If you people had actually bothered to visit the page and read the text, you would have known that the screenshot is of the scammer's site [e-buyonline.com]. Yes, those bulk e-mail programs, e-mail addresses for sale, and so on, are all completely unrelated to the author of MailList King software, apart from his program and the content of his site being ripped off by a spammer/scammer [e-buyonline.com] (it seems that the scammer has just renamed the software, but he still has the text from the actuall MailList King [xequte.com] page on his site).
As far as I can tell, all the evidence so far clearly shows that the MailList King author is not a spammer or involved in such activities. Until someone posts evidence to the contrary, I suggest that you all stop shouting about spammers when the only spammer here is the guy who ripped off Xecute's software. Seriously, people.
One thing I'm disappointed about, though, is that he didn't follow up on this. The site clearly belongs to a spammer, and he rips off other people's sites and software, making money from spamming and scamming. As mentioned above, he simply renamed the mailing list software, but the product page on the scammer's site [e-buyonline.com] still shows text taken directly from the original page [xequte.com].
I would have hoped that this spammer/scammer could have been nailed down and kicked off the 'net. Perhaps someone else can pick it up from here and track down the scammer to put an end to his online adventure?
Actually, I'm more of a libritarian socialist.
It is still very much like that. Its harder than you might think for the FBI to infiltrate these things.
Or be a whistleblower and go to the government. This is where the government should be involved in copyright infringement, not with some college kids.
Well, yes, the government should stop arresting drug dealers, but I don't see how that is at all related.
That would be wayyyy to slow. At the higher levels of the "warez scene" there are gigabit servers that transfer things at ridiculously high speeds to other gigabit servers.
Capitalism shouldn't be a right. All it does is takes away people's freedom by making them economically dependent on their empoyers. Besides all that. the whole concept of intellectual property is crazy. One can not "own" an idea.
The human race.
Operational discoveries that can be applied to things like a mission to mars.
As if they could see such a tiny (relitivly speaking) object from the space station.
I'm sick of people not seeing the good science that is being done by NASA as it is. Just because it may be more science-fictiony to go to the moon doesn't make it more valuable. We will go to mars (which would be alot more benificial than going to the moon) in good time. Until then let's work on the ISS.
Where's my sex-with-a-mare option?
Yes, its called kazaa.
While I would very much love to take part in a reasoning, my drug use has almost exlusivly been done alone in my own home.
- file system fsck
Isn't that a bit redundent?
Actually I wrote that one not-high.
XD
agreed. I've been alot more insightful since I started smoking weed, even when I'm not high.
Having done both, i'd definatly say that ritalin lacks the euphoria you get out of cocaine. I think ritalin is probobly alot closer to speed.
I'm sure you would feel the same way if you actually did have to work at a wallmart. Get over yourself.
Intelligence is one thing, but I think we already must say that the computers of today are conscious, at least in some form, because the distinction between what is conscious and what is not can not be made. Then again, I would argue that rocks are conscious in some form as well, so maybe I'm just crazy.
Right but, you seem to be arguing that "this point" at least exists. If it exists it has some definition, and my argument is that that definition must be arbitrary, and therefore the point does not exist.