I used to use FreeBSD back in the day and I gotta say, pkgng is looking like it's pretty slick at solving the #1 reason I moved away from it (too much of a PITA to keep many heterogeneous servers up-to-date)
Unless, of course, you have a database backend for anything on your web server. If the apache daemon can access it, so can the asshat who exploited it for a shell.
If you mention an open source project you've worked on would they expect to get copyrights on all your contributions? Why should a patent be any different?
With some of the contracts these fuckers try to push, that's not exactly an over-the-top concern.
I'd say it's more of "bypassing the absolute worst of each worlds." The closer I can get to "apt-get upgrade", the better. But it looks like pkgng might have that mostly covered for most of what I'd need to set up.
When crunch-time passes, I'll experiment a little more deeply into it, but I'm glad to see there's been so much improvement. I loved me some FreeBSD back in the day.
I've been playing with pkgng/pkg a bit, it does look much nicer. That's a good change, imo. Ports are nice, and I know that back in the day they were FreeBSD's "thing", but when you've got a few dozen servers to update, waiting to compile each update is kind of a dealbreaker.
I finished that one just a few weeks ago. Thankfully the next one is due out in a month or so.:)
Hopefully there's not too much of a lag for the audiobook - they make the 4 hour drive to Dr. Girlfriend's place up north much more bearable, and Kobna Holbrook-Smith definitely does the writing justice.
Yes, indeed. I'm reading the fourth book (Broken Homes) now and I'm really enjoying his writing style, the setting, the characters -- pretty much the whole package.
And they're just fun to read.:) That's frequently missing these days, with all the crapsack countries and grimdark being all the rage.
I turned the TV off and read a book about a English policeman who is also a wizard, which was far more believable that the utter crap which Scorpion was
Is this guy new here or what? Ostensibly useful ("friendly", since TFS apparently wants to anthropomorphize software) programs that carry a nasty payload that doesn't trigger immediately? How's that any different from 20 years ago, when they were called "trojans?"
And Debian is for when those gurus get tired of manually maintaining hundreds of boxes.
This is literally the *only* reason we use Debian or derivatives for work. We're just too small to have that kind of time, which is depressing. Especially with this SystemD crap... One of these days soon, when my Copious Free Time makes another appearance, I need to re-evaluate FreeBSD. Hopefully, the upgrade process has improved since "make buildworld.":) Otherwise, I dunno what we're going to do...
Which wouldn't be so bad if the documentation around systemd was so horrendously awful - and also hugely changeable dependent on version.
Some parts, perhaps.
Other parts, like the idiocy that is the "working as intended" logging abomination, would be irredeemably bad, no matter how good the documentation. Plus, that adds a nice, seething element of ominous fear: if LP and co. are so out of touch that they don't understand *why* their way is "The Wrong Way," the gods only know what else they've buggered up beyond repair that hasn't been found yet.
I mean, pulseaudio did have some pushback, but systemd has had orders of magnitude more pushback than pulseaudio.
If by "some pushback" you mean "was utterly unusable for at least 4 years", then that part is at least true. Of course systemd has more pushback: it's the same sort of badly written, badly designed garbage that's injecting itself into the bootup process rather than being just a user-facing mess that was trivial to remove.
People need to get a life.
Some of us have lives that include being paid to take care of Linux servers, which this crap makes significantly more difficult.
If, after said re-evaluation, you've come to that conclusion, then that's fine. You can be content with the fact that your position is sound and the people who disagree have no rational grounds for it, and are just assholes.
When you skip that re-evaluation step, stick your fingers in your ears, yell "la la la" really hard, and then cry because people are "being mean to you" while refusing to acknowledge that it's because they don't want your ill-considered, over-engineered crap making their lives difficult for the next decade, then that makes you an asshole.
Are you aware that you're helping to reinforce one of the points two comments up? And somehow, writing software that a group of people deem as bad means that you should be met with horrible physical tortures?
Nowhere did GP say anything about whether or not LP deserved the abuse. He offered counterexamples to GGP's assertion that LP writes "great software," which has had plenty of objective explanations as to its flaws. He said nothing about the person himself.
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I used to use FreeBSD back in the day and I gotta say, pkgng is looking like it's pretty slick at solving the #1 reason I moved away from it (too much of a PITA to keep many heterogeneous servers up-to-date)
Unless, of course, you have a database backend for anything on your web server. If the apache daemon can access it, so can the asshat who exploited it for a shell.
Follow the link? What are you, new?
"MIR" is just a simple caesar cyphering away from "NIH'.
If you mention an open source project you've worked on would they expect to get copyrights on all your contributions? Why should a patent be any different?
With some of the contracts these fuckers try to push, that's not exactly an over-the-top concern.
Nicely played. :D
It gets hashed down to 28-64 characters and written into the database?
I'd say it's more of "bypassing the absolute worst of each worlds." The closer I can get to "apt-get upgrade", the better. But it looks like pkgng might have that mostly covered for most of what I'd need to set up.
When crunch-time passes, I'll experiment a little more deeply into it, but I'm glad to see there's been so much improvement. I loved me some FreeBSD back in the day.
I've been playing with pkgng/pkg a bit, it does look much nicer. That's a good change, imo. Ports are nice, and I know that back in the day they were FreeBSD's "thing", but when you've got a few dozen servers to update, waiting to compile each update is kind of a dealbreaker.
Playing with it a bit before bed tonight. Looks pretty slick.
Dear gods, though... they're still shipping it with sendmail? O_O
I finished that one just a few weeks ago. Thankfully the next one is due out in a month or so. :)
Hopefully there's not too much of a lag for the audiobook - they make the 4 hour drive to Dr. Girlfriend's place up north much more bearable, and Kobna Holbrook-Smith definitely does the writing justice.
Yes, indeed. I'm reading the fourth book (Broken Homes) now and I'm really enjoying his writing style, the setting, the characters -- pretty much the whole package.
And they're just fun to read. :) That's frequently missing these days, with all the crapsack countries and grimdark being all the rage.
I turned the TV off and read a book about a English policeman who is also a wizard, which was far more believable that the utter crap which Scorpion was
Rivers of London series, by any chance?
Modern day gladiators. I.e. the "circuses."
VBA != VB.Net
If that were the case, PHP would have occupied all 5 slots.
Is this guy new here or what? Ostensibly useful ("friendly", since TFS apparently wants to anthropomorphize software) programs that carry a nasty payload that doesn't trigger immediately? How's that any different from 20 years ago, when they were called "trojans?"
And Debian is for when those gurus get tired of manually maintaining hundreds of boxes.
This is literally the *only* reason we use Debian or derivatives for work. We're just too small to have that kind of time, which is depressing. Especially with this SystemD crap... One of these days soon, when my Copious Free Time makes another appearance, I need to re-evaluate FreeBSD. Hopefully, the upgrade process has improved since "make buildworld." :) Otherwise, I dunno what we're going to do...
if i was administrating servers, it may care if i had to throw away a load of scripts i no longer need
If you were administering servers, even as a PFY, you'd have enough Clue to recognize why what you said is just so much dribbling bullshit.
Which wouldn't be so bad if the documentation around systemd was so horrendously awful - and also hugely changeable dependent on version.
Some parts, perhaps.
Other parts, like the idiocy that is the "working as intended" logging abomination, would be irredeemably bad, no matter how good the documentation. Plus, that adds a nice, seething element of ominous fear: if LP and co. are so out of touch that they don't understand *why* their way is "The Wrong Way," the gods only know what else they've buggered up beyond repair that hasn't been found yet.
I am?
Or did you mean the parent to my post?
I'm sure that no one tried to take out a hit on him either.
Welcome to the internet, where stupid people say stupid shit, and, protip: not all of it is actually true.
I mean, pulseaudio did have some pushback, but systemd has had orders of magnitude more pushback than pulseaudio.
If by "some pushback" you mean "was utterly unusable for at least 4 years", then that part is at least true. Of course systemd has more pushback: it's the same sort of badly written, badly designed garbage that's injecting itself into the bootup process rather than being just a user-facing mess that was trivial to remove.
People need to get a life.
Some of us have lives that include being paid to take care of Linux servers, which this crap makes significantly more difficult.
If, after said re-evaluation, you've come to that conclusion, then that's fine. You can be content with the fact that your position is sound and the people who disagree have no rational grounds for it, and are just assholes.
When you skip that re-evaluation step, stick your fingers in your ears, yell "la la la" really hard, and then cry because people are "being mean to you" while refusing to acknowledge that it's because they don't want your ill-considered, over-engineered crap making their lives difficult for the next decade, then that makes you an asshole.
Are you aware that you're helping to reinforce one of the points two comments up? And somehow, writing software that a group of people deem as bad means that you should be met with horrible physical tortures?
Nowhere did GP say anything about whether or not LP deserved the abuse. He offered counterexamples to GGP's assertion that LP writes "great software," which has had plenty of objective explanations as to its flaws. He said nothing about the person himself.
This theory does not account for the presence of sociopaths in the equation.
Then who does it assume is receiving the envelope?