personally im a gentoo fanatic.. and use it on everything. but unless youve had the PLEASURE of installing SUSE.. or watching one of your parents install SUSE with their eyes closed and in less time than it takes to watch Star Wars Episode IV without commercials..... then you really are in no place to make those comments.. unless you want to make them from the platform of ignorance.. which i dont think you want to do....
absolutely - its the state of porn in america that is dismal.
granted, i may not agree with shitting my pants and licking throwup off of my girlfriend.. but at least the other countries try to make it a little different and interesting. wtf america. make porn worth watching.
this is another two definitions to add to your list.. unfortunatly im not feeling very compasionate or sympathetic right now...
natural selection
gods good way of killing, raping & torturing little girls and boys whos parents didnt properly "educate" them about the "real world" and instead left the parenting up to a "politicians" "legislation".
legislation
a politicians way of gaining popularity with those who have similar moral/political/religious views by telling the world about them and expecting others to follow them.
hehehe.. sorry man. didnt mean to go so morbid with the natural selection one.. but hey.. its late and im tired...
-f
well.., i cant dispute the fact that locos and rigs do more WORK with their fuel... but, in terms of raw miles/gallon in relation to how many SUVs it takes to use the same amount of fuel in the same distance.. i think that brings a lot less meaning to ton-miles... theyre only relavent if youre talking about the work they can do 1 on 1. which im not. im talking about total smog emitted by each class - in total.
anyway.. it doesnt matter.. im surprised i got any replies at all..... later. -f
yeah,.. i just grabbed all the last of the ties... except the white/black polkadot tie... someone else can have that one...
in fact, im gonna wear them all at the same time to meetings of this OSPA... hah..and my shiny slick leather shoes with the vibrant purple stripes.. i awesome...
if im not mistaken, there were a few shirts left on the clearance shelf... someone might want to get to them before i get back.. ok.. whens the first meeting?
ok, how about not worrying about SUVs when there have been 1) locomotives (in the past which were an integral part pollutions early roots), 2) Tractor-trailers & 3) the smog put out by practically every company in north jersey.
im really a little more than annoyed at people who bash the SUV to no end while at the same time - over looking the trucks that carry 90% of americas goods through the country. even if SUV's dissappeared tomorrow - we'd still have a incredible amount of tractor-trailers... and they'd still be putting out smog and using gas in quantities that make SUVs look like the dream solution to polution.
how about we stop putting the blame on commonplace people and give it back to who it belongs to - the companys whos business relies almost exclusively on trucking and burning oil.
haha.. i probably would have taken you more seriously had you not posted as a/c.. but anyway..
other than video production & editing/sound production & editing... there isnt much else offered that isnt meant to be eye catching or anything like that.. so i guess it excells at selling itself to the artsy fartsy types like myself..
i agree 100% about not needing a whole slew of g5 servers running os x to use as an ssh server - theres no point in wasting that kinda money...
honestly even though i have a pc sitting right next to it i tend to use it for my day to day activities as well... itunes is good safari is nice... and pages - its MS Word-alike - is decent...
i guess what it really comes down to is that i sit at both of my machines for business and when i want to do something fun i just do it with whatevers right in front of me.. to the basic end user it really doesnt make a difference and unless you have big bucks to spend and can make use of it - there isnt a point to buy a mac. when they come out on intel it will hopefully lower the price somewhat and then it will just become a matter of a person choosing solely on what they think is "prettier" and the functionality wont matter...
instead of using my mod points to mod down this obvious flamebate... im only gonna offer one answer.
directed at "mac only software that doesnt have a good counterpart in the windows world"...
how about... lets see... Shake - nothing NOTHING that good on windows. Final Cut Pro - youre telling me that premiere can compete with FCP5? Motion - ?? DVD Studio 4 - ???
yeah the list goes on and on. im an independent freelancer and i use a pc for my solidworks and autocad mechanical design work and my mac for video production stuff... could you find me an affordable alternative to those on windows that work as well?? i doubt it.
ah, and my file server runs gentoo linux while my firewall runs openbsd.
**taking my food back from the troll while simultaniously taking off my flame retardant underwear**
its ashame that you wrote that as AC... believe me man, i wrote a very similar comment a while back and i believe it 100%... america was BUILT on chances and risks.. no shit we're loosing our edge in the world - our government treats us like pussies because an outspoken minority cant accept responsibility for themselves...
as much as some people might call that flamebate.. its still basically 100% accurate...
theres always the third group who "likes to be different" and test the boundaries of the law... but that group isnt really big enough to count....
it does suck though to live in land where the freedom was paid for with more deaths than id want to count... yet - where everyones getting the opinion that its ok to have some freedoms taken away if it makes you safer... which is basicallyk why people dont fuss about the little laws....
ie: its illegal for me to photograph pictures of my family on the verazano bridge because they're afraid that i could be a terrorist and ill use the photos for my evil plot. same thing when i took my family on their first speedline ride to the city.. the conductor was warning us about pictures being taken and that wed have them comfiscated at the next stop by police offercers...
i think things like tor are basically a way for those in that small margin (the ones we didnt count) (who are incidentally the driving forces) to feel like they can have at least a little freedom elsewhere.. one taken away, so build one that cant be taken away so easily.
i dunno.. its all a pretty lame argument that always boils down to the fact that our forefathers were commiting treason when they fought for their freedom and now anyone in the US who trys to carve out a little of their own freedoms are being labeled unpatriotic.... its sad..
being an astronaut is what most of these people live for. no different than people who choose a military career... this is an incredibly dangerous job with very high risks. you dont "want to join the army" and then "hope you dont ever get to stand guard for our country"... no different than you dont "want to become an astronaut" and then "hope you never get picked for a shuttle mission"...
granted the bureaucracy is fucked up for always trying to be the first at everthing at the expense of cutting corners - but then again: its not like every person in america is oblivious to it. we know the quality - and the astronauts know the quality. its still their choice.
im really putting way too many thoughts into this one comment and i really shouldnt have replied to yours but here it is...
i think that while our speed at which we as humans progress has gotten faster - our rate of acceration that we pick up speed is significantly faltering. we micro-manage everything till the only progress is a more refined system - that doesnt do anything...
so maybe back in the 60s we were riding in science at maybe like - 30mph... by the time the 70s came we were chilling at 50mph.. now in 2005 we're still only teetering at around 75mph and were looking all around for cops and hoping our perverbial radar detectors dont go off. we still have a long assed road to go and its wide open with nothing blocking our path. people who progress are people who take risks... i can say that because i know there are certain things out there i dont have the guts to do but am comforted that we have million others out there who know the value of science and who will. why should we stand in their way? its not like we dont have millions dying every year from hunger, sickness and disease... at least when these people die its while trying to make mankind better. honor them by continuing forward. not backwards.
now im tired and have a headache and shouldnt even be posting right now, but whatever... my karmas good to go.... even have a little water bucket sitting here next to it in the even of burnning.:)
great selection... very good above and beyond support.... and sweet deals..
i once bought a motherboard that i had sit in the box for 6 months... far past its 14 day doa return policy... they took it back and tested it and replaced it free of charge... except to ship there.. which was a small price to pay...
i 110% agree. i have a gentoo server colocated in cali (im in south jersey) and i only have to say one thing about it --- anyone can promise you complete control over your operating system... but only gentoo can deliver on it and make it easy at the same time.
It seems to me like the real reason for showing id is probably to check for something along the lines of "this isnt your ticket... you arent this guy".. rather than the "i would feel safer if i at least knew my attackers name"... if the flight attendant who told him "its the law" decided to step back a second to rethink the situation and handle it with some tact, i dont think this would have happened... personally, i think its not every citizens right to question their leaders.. its their RESPONSIBILITY. no one holds your leaders/laws accountable but the people who allow them to exist.... just remember... the government doesnt give us our rights... we the people, give the government its rights... and its our job to check them. if i got a ticked for a motor vehicle violation that didnt seem logical... and no one could show me what law i was actually breaking.. whether it be njac#.. or whatever.. just wanted to fine me... i would challenge that the the ends of the earth.. thats my responsibilty...
this guy was only excercising his rights... whether or not the guy was breaking a law.. he had the right to knwo what law he was being accused of breaking... at the least, he deserved an explanation of the policy with which he was being accused of going against...
sorry if i rambled.. i got a minor concussion snowboarding today.. blue mountain sucks.. please dont go there..
now... mod me down... "-1 Making Valid Points That No One Wants To Hear Or Try To Argue"
programmers need to start being taught how to use the facilities of operating system to not only do great things... but how to also use those same facilities to properly recover from errors - as opposed to just complaining about how their program segfaults.....
i agree in that it needs to be more simplistic for the average person to use... however, i think this touches at the heart of what unix does - rather, is supposed to do... it already tries to follow the MANY..... MANY standards... and each shell follows those standards and exposes them to the user in a way that makes sense to the creator (bearing in mind the creator should know his target and write complex programers for complex users and vice versa)... i like the fact there should be a standard for tar files however, i like being able to choose which tar program im gonna use. be it gnu/tar or otherwise...
lets talk about package management.. i believe that every package manager should expose a standard set up api's so that other package managers can interoperate with them transparently. i believe that the next evolutionary step would be to say... (which is already implemented to some extent) let gentoo portage be able to emerge from.rpm or.deb files... NOT through some function of the portage program, rather through an exposed function of the rpm library...
theres the aguement that this creates bloat having so many different libraries for accessing the api's for different package managers but my opinion is that anyone who 'needs' this type of simplicity (the average user) is gonna have a computer that isnt gonna blink at an extra 5-10 megs for another library... if youre computer is tight for space and youre hand selecting exactly whats in it then you probably already know what youre doing OR are willing to learn...
sorry about all the run on sentences... this was a rushed thought but i wanted to get it out there.. even at the expense of looking like i have the grammer/punctuation of a 3rd grader... im in a rush right now..
Actually, ethics-related debates and thats all this can be simplified to.
on the one hand.
even if he is a clueless admin who cant defend himself against smuck professors - he still has the right to ask dumb questions. it just lowers peoples opinion on him... i hate freedom preachers... but its the truth.. its his right. and should be assumed.
on the other hand...
its up to the editors to exercise their right to dump off the crap stories they find appropriate and even put up some crap stories if they like.. basically they have the right to run the site how they want...
and on the last hand,
we as users have the right to complain about anything we want... even if it makes people think less of us.
so how far down does the buck get passed untill someone accepts responsiblity for what happens here? certainly not the questioner... hes asking a question to a public forum knowing full well the odds of getting it asked on the homepage..
certainly not the end reader.. no one forces us to come here... which brings us to the editors..
so while they have the right to put anything they want on their site... its in their best interest to not post crap... and when they do.. its in our best interest to complain.. its how they'll know theyre posting crap..
I've managed to maintain good karma thus far but i think id like to reply to this anyway and risk the down modding..
Dear CluelessAdmin, If you would like to ask questions to the slashdot readership, please utilize the "Submit Story" link on the left hand side of your page.
It is disrespectful to ask unrelated questions in other peoples threads.
holy shit, ive never met another csoft user. ive been using them for almost a year and a half now and i'll say that its the best host ive ever had. no complaints at all... well, except for the unresolved IMAP issue (i cant empty folders out of my trash on the OpenBSD shell account due to some courier-imap issue)... which has been unresolved for about 6 months.. but its no biggie... the money spent on them is well worth it.
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personally im a gentoo fanatic.. and use it on everything. but unless youve had the PLEASURE of installing SUSE.. or watching one of your parents install SUSE with their eyes closed and in less time than it takes to watch Star Wars Episode IV without commercials..... then you really are in no place to make those comments.. unless you want to make them from the platform of ignorance.. which i dont think you want to do....
no really... http://www.redhat.com/software/rha/gfs/ from redhat seems to be what you might want.... take a look.
absolutely - its the state of porn in america that is dismal.
granted, i may not agree with shitting my pants and licking throwup off of my girlfriend.. but at least the other countries try to make it a little different and interesting. wtf america. make porn worth watching.
this is another two definitions to add to your list.. unfortunatly im not feeling very compasionate or sympathetic right now...
natural selection gods good way of killing, raping & torturing little girls and boys whos parents didnt properly "educate" them about the "real world" and instead left the parenting up to a "politicians" "legislation". legislation a politicians way of gaining popularity with those who have similar moral/political/religious views by telling the world about them and expecting others to follow them.hehehe.. sorry man. didnt mean to go so morbid with the natural selection one.. but hey.. its late and im tired...
-f
well.., i cant dispute the fact that locos and rigs do more WORK with their fuel... but, in terms of raw miles/gallon in relation to how many SUVs it takes to use the same amount of fuel in the same distance.. i think that brings a lot less meaning to ton-miles... theyre only relavent if youre talking about the work they can do 1 on 1. which im not. im talking about total smog emitted by each class - in total.
anyway.. it doesnt matter.. im surprised i got any replies at all..... later.
-f
yeah,.. i just grabbed all the last of the ties... except the white/black polkadot tie... someone else can have that one...
.and my shiny slick leather shoes with the vibrant purple stripes.. i awesome...
in fact, im gonna wear them all at the same time to meetings of this OSPA... hah.
if im not mistaken, there were a few shirts left on the clearance shelf... someone might want to get to them before i get back.. ok.. whens the first meeting?
ok, how about not worrying about SUVs when there have been 1) locomotives (in the past which were an integral part pollutions early roots), 2) Tractor-trailers & 3) the smog put out by practically every company in north jersey.
im really a little more than annoyed at people who bash the SUV to no end while at the same time - over looking the trucks that carry 90% of americas goods through the country. even if SUV's dissappeared tomorrow - we'd still have a incredible amount of tractor-trailers... and they'd still be putting out smog and using gas in quantities that make SUVs look like the dream solution to polution.
how about we stop putting the blame on commonplace people and give it back to who it belongs to - the companys whos business relies almost exclusively on trucking and burning oil.
haha.. i probably would have taken you more seriously had you not posted as a/c.. but anyway..
other than video production & editing/sound production & editing... there isnt much else offered that isnt meant to be eye catching or anything like that.. so i guess it excells at selling itself to the artsy fartsy types like myself..
i agree 100% about not needing a whole slew of g5 servers running os x to use as an ssh server - theres no point in wasting that kinda money...
honestly even though i have a pc sitting right next to it i tend to use it for my day to day activities as well... itunes is good safari is nice... and pages - its MS Word-alike - is decent...
i guess what it really comes down to is that i sit at both of my machines for business and when i want to do something fun i just do it with whatevers right in front of me.. to the basic end user it really doesnt make a difference and unless you have big bucks to spend and can make use of it - there isnt a point to buy a mac. when they come out on intel it will hopefully lower the price somewhat and then it will just become a matter of a person choosing solely on what they think is "prettier" and the functionality wont matter...
instead of using my mod points to mod down this obvious flamebate... im only gonna offer one answer.
directed at "mac only software that doesnt have a good counterpart in the windows world"...
how about... lets see...
Shake - nothing NOTHING that good on windows.
Final Cut Pro - youre telling me that premiere can compete with FCP5?
Motion - ??
DVD Studio 4 - ???
yeah the list goes on and on. im an independent freelancer and i use a pc for my solidworks and autocad mechanical design work and my mac for video production stuff... could you find me an affordable alternative to those on windows that work as well?? i doubt it.
ah, and my file server runs gentoo linux while my firewall runs openbsd.
**taking my food back from the troll while simultaniously taking off my flame retardant underwear**
its ashame that you wrote that as AC... believe me man, i wrote a very similar comment a while back and i believe it 100%... america was BUILT on chances and risks.. no shit we're loosing our edge in the world - our government treats us like pussies because an outspoken minority cant accept responsibility for themselves...
as much as some people might call that flamebate.. its still basically 100% accurate...
theres always the third group who "likes to be different" and test the boundaries of the law... but that group isnt really big enough to count....
it does suck though to live in land where the freedom was paid for with more deaths than id want to count... yet - where everyones getting the opinion that its ok to have some freedoms taken away if it makes you safer... which is basicallyk why people dont fuss about the little laws....
ie: its illegal for me to photograph pictures of my family on the verazano bridge because they're afraid that i could be a terrorist and ill use the photos for my evil plot. same thing when i took my family on their first speedline ride to the city.. the conductor was warning us about pictures being taken and that wed have them comfiscated at the next stop by police offercers...
i think things like tor are basically a way for those in that small margin (the ones we didnt count) (who are incidentally the driving forces) to feel like they can have at least a little freedom elsewhere.. one taken away, so build one that cant be taken away so easily.
i dunno.. its all a pretty lame argument that always boils down to the fact that our forefathers were commiting treason when they fought for their freedom and now anyone in the US who trys to carve out a little of their own freedoms are being labeled unpatriotic.... its sad..
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being an astronaut is what most of these people live for. no different than people who choose a military career... this is an incredibly dangerous job with very high risks. you dont "want to join the army" and then "hope you dont ever get to stand guard for our country"... no different than you dont "want to become an astronaut" and then "hope you never get picked for a shuttle mission"...
:)
granted the bureaucracy is fucked up for always trying to be the first at everthing at the expense of cutting corners - but then again: its not like every person in america is oblivious to it. we know the quality - and the astronauts know the quality. its still their choice.
im really putting way too many thoughts into this one comment and i really shouldnt have replied to yours but here it is...
i think that while our speed at which we as humans progress has gotten faster - our rate of acceration that we pick up speed is significantly faltering. we micro-manage everything till the only progress is a more refined system - that doesnt do anything...
so maybe back in the 60s we were riding in science at maybe like - 30mph... by the time the 70s came we were chilling at 50mph.. now in 2005 we're still only teetering at around 75mph and were looking all around for cops and hoping our perverbial radar detectors dont go off. we still have a long assed road to go and its wide open with nothing blocking our path. people who progress are people who take risks... i can say that because i know there are certain things out there i dont have the guts to do but am comforted that we have million others out there who know the value of science and who will. why should we stand in their way? its not like we dont have millions dying every year from hunger, sickness and disease... at least when these people die its while trying to make mankind better. honor them by continuing forward. not backwards.
now im tired and have a headache and shouldnt even be posting right now, but whatever... my karmas good to go.... even have a little water bucket sitting here next to it in the even of burnning.
great selection... very good above and beyond support.... and sweet deals..
i once bought a motherboard that i had sit in the box for 6 months... far past its 14 day doa return policy... they took it back and tested it and replaced it free of charge... except to ship there.. which was a small price to pay...
how the fuck was that a troll? granted this is a flame... but thats not a fucking troll.
dont take this as flame war starting.. just wanted to clear up for you that emerge can choose to download binaries instead of compiling.
i 110% agree. i have a gentoo server colocated in cali (im in south jersey) and i only have to say one thing about it --- anyone can promise you complete control over your operating system... but only gentoo can deliver on it and make it easy at the same time.
It seems to me like the real reason for showing id is probably to check for something along the lines of "this isnt your ticket... you arent this guy".. rather than the "i would feel safer if i at least knew my attackers name"... if the flight attendant who told him "its the law" decided to step back a second to rethink the situation and handle it with some tact, i dont think this would have happened... personally, i think its not every citizens right to question their leaders.. its their RESPONSIBILITY. no one holds your leaders/laws accountable but the people who allow them to exist.... just remember... the government doesnt give us our rights... we the people, give the government its rights... and its our job to check them. if i got a ticked for a motor vehicle violation that didnt seem logical... and no one could show me what law i was actually breaking.. whether it be njac#.. or whatever.. just wanted to fine me... i would challenge that the the ends of the earth.. thats my responsibilty...
this guy was only excercising his rights... whether or not the guy was breaking a law.. he had the right to knwo what law he was being accused of breaking... at the least, he deserved an explanation of the policy with which he was being accused of going against...
sorry if i rambled.. i got a minor concussion snowboarding today.. blue mountain sucks.. please dont go there..
now... mod me down... "-1 Making Valid Points That No One Wants To Hear Or Try To Argue"
kudos...
programmers need to start being taught how to use the facilities of operating system to not only do great things... but how to also use those same facilities to properly recover from errors - as opposed to just complaining about how their program segfaults.....
better programers. thats what unix needs.
i agree in that it needs to be more simplistic for the average person to use... however, i think this touches at the heart of what unix does - rather, is supposed to do... it already tries to follow the MANY..... MANY standards... and each shell follows those standards and exposes them to the user in a way that makes sense to the creator (bearing in mind the creator should know his target and write complex programers for complex users and vice versa)... i like the fact there should be a standard for tar files however, i like being able to choose which tar program im gonna use. be it gnu/tar or otherwise...
.rpm or .deb files... NOT through some function of the portage program, rather through an exposed function of the rpm library...
lets talk about package management.. i believe that every package manager should expose a standard set up api's so that other package managers can interoperate with them transparently. i believe that the next evolutionary step would be to say... (which is already implemented to some extent) let gentoo portage be able to emerge from
theres the aguement that this creates bloat having so many different libraries for accessing the api's for different package managers but my opinion is that anyone who 'needs' this type of simplicity (the average user) is gonna have a computer that isnt gonna blink at an extra 5-10 megs for another library... if youre computer is tight for space and youre hand selecting exactly whats in it then you probably already know what youre doing OR are willing to learn...
sorry about all the run on sentences... this was a rushed thought but i wanted to get it out there.. even at the expense of looking like i have the grammer/punctuation of a 3rd grader... im in a rush right now..
take care,
- Frank
Actually,
ethics-related debates and thats all this can be simplified to.
on the one hand.
even if he is a clueless admin who cant defend himself against smuck professors - he still has the right to ask dumb questions. it just lowers peoples opinion on him... i hate freedom preachers... but its the truth.. its his right. and should be assumed.
on the other hand...
its up to the editors to exercise their right to dump off the crap stories they find appropriate and even put up some crap stories if they like.. basically they have the right to run the site how they want...
and on the last hand,
we as users have the right to complain about anything we want... even if it makes people think less of us.
so how far down does the buck get passed untill someone accepts responsiblity for what happens here? certainly not the questioner... hes asking a question to a public forum knowing full well the odds of getting it asked on the homepage..
certainly not the end reader.. no one forces us to come here... which brings us to the editors..
so while they have the right to put anything they want on their site... its in their best interest to not post crap... and when they do.. its in our best interest to complain.. its how they'll know theyre posting crap..
opk im done with this.. and tired.. goodnight.
I've managed to maintain good karma thus far but i think id like to reply to this anyway and risk the down modding..
Dear CluelessAdmin,
If you would like to ask questions to the slashdot readership, please utilize the "Submit Story" link on the left hand side of your page.
It is disrespectful to ask unrelated questions in other peoples threads.
Thank you,
- Frank J. Mattia
actually, 300,000 votes in a single state could have swayed the election.
holy shit, ive never met another csoft user. ive been using them for almost a year and a half now and i'll say that its the best host ive ever had. no complaints at all... well, except for the unresolved IMAP issue (i cant empty folders out of my trash on the OpenBSD shell account due to some courier-imap issue)... which has been unresolved for about 6 months.. but its no biggie... the money spent on them is well worth it.