Ease of use is for those who dont want to learn. Would you put a chainsaw in the hands of someone that didnt know how to use it, just because it was easy to use and got the job done , even if it was sloppily done so?
Id rather have an educated user, a person of intelligence that can make intelligent decisions.
Ideally and educated and knowledgable user would and could make intelligent descisions. Not individuals for whom like you, frob your way through life in front of a Windows box, unawares as to half of whats going on.
Dont put the dependence on you, the End user to take responsiblity for your actions....no, Lets make MS responsible , its MS's fault that my machine does this, and my machine does that.
Bullshit. If the user were educated properly, probably half of the stuff that could happen, wouldnt happen.
but really , Gates however should stop saying things like Never, and Wont, and Thing of the Past. Sets himself up for failure when that happens.
Numerous times has he done this, only to be thwarted back by the hacker community, and the weak security model of his company.
Lest I remind everyone that if it werent for Gates and Baller , and ultimately all the developers at MS , that we wouldnt have malware, adware, and a large bevy of the numbers of viruses that exist.
1. The collecting, writing, editing, and presenting of news or news articles in newspapers and magazines and in radio and television broadcasts. 2. Material written for publication in a newspaper or magazine or for broadcast. 3. The style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation. 6. Written material of current interest or wide popular appeal.
Ergo a Journalist is a person that writes such material. Ergo, Stupid Journalists.
Hmmmm...this is a largely unfounded claim. Let us go down the line here.
Commercial systems require their customers to depend on their companies for technical support. If there is a problem, users must often wait on hold (while paying for a toll call). Who in their right mind calls Microsoft anyway? While decentralized, it is often easier to get help with problems in Linux, because of a large community of developers and sysadmins that exist on any level, novice or veteran. As well as numerous At Cost Distros that actually give you support if you pay them for it -- Xandros, Linare, Redhat, Mandriva, and Suse/NLD. Ubuntu, rare in its form, offers support for a nominal fee per system.
So the claim that RTFM and Forums are the only support structures available is Farkian Dumbass and Farkian Asinine. Clearly the words of an uneducated individual.
And Honestly, using Messy SQL, Im forced to support this monumental peice of crap at my current place of business. MessySQL has nothing on Oracle, Sybase, MySQL, or PostGRESQL. It Truely is a POS (thats not Point of Service either).
http://www.mslinux.org/ -- For those who dont want to convert, or are in the closet about their love of linux. Redneck Uneducated Tobacco Chewin types that really are gay, and just dont accept themselves typically fall into this group.
The position of the satire was to poke humor at the almost stupidic nature of redneck/narrowminded/countryfolk individuals who are largely un informed about the status of technology and how it works. Having spent the first half of my career in the support field , before going into development , I was only too well aware of this. It is because of this stupidity that sites like rinkworks computer stupidities is popular ( http://rinkworks.com/stupid/ ). The problem being of course that I would not be surprised if M$ doesnt foster this kind of low grade intelligence to make its products sell better. The issue being of course that are the individuals in group A (where A = gays, minorities, and those of non standard religious ethic) larger or smaller than group B ( stupid and ignorant individuals incapable of thinking with a broad mind, more of a narrow one that would be narrower than say that of a laser width or less).
Anyway, to get to the end of the rabble, the comment was largely pointed at the uneducated over the minority. I find that the latter is far more acceptable to me, than its predecessor.
thunk it was a-gonna be the fine man's OS, an' not th' Fag Operatin' system, dawgone it. Them Fags dont need an OS of their own, as enny fool kin plainly see......Dawgone Fags need t'go an' haf their own place an stay away fum us straight fine christian types.....
License War. Which is better than the other? This goes back to the Tridge concept of Free as in beer vs Free as in Freedom. Honestly, I support whatever supports the further development of decent product. Would I donate money to Ubuntu...Most certainly. Do I purchase distributions to show my support....without a doubt. Xandros makes a release, I pick up a copy. Libranet , purchased a DL last night. Novell releases NLD / Suse 9.3.
Zemp, Opinions are like assholes , everyone's got one. Some have two, or three. I know I do at least. But, what I do note is that unlike most in here, I stand up for your right to express that opinion, and 99% of the time, defend you for that right.
Of course , as I say that, surely Im going to get blasted for the comment.
Good enough for me. So why should I have to wait for Sun to release OpenSol?
I shouldnt really. Unless its going to be THAT much of a fabulous product. For that matter , got a copy of Java Desktop running at home, wasnt too pleased with it, so should OpenSol be any better? Was anyone overly pleased with JDS? Most of the opinions Ive read were to the negative.
You want a copy of Solaris, go out and buy one. You want a free copy of Solaris, wait.
Hasnt this happened already.......
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I forsee the box going online, and it going down within the first 5 minutes of it being up.
I still remember Gates saying that IIS was infallable and then watching Code Red come around and put Gates back into his place.
I have never largely been disappointed with ANY UT game that has been released. There is nothing like the feeling you get from pulling around in Tank and seeing a fully deployed Leviathan sitting there, charging up to take you out. With all 4 of its plasma turrets mounted with players spraying fire all over the place in your direction.
If Atari releases the game, and diverges from their original concept of giving a native installer , even though Transgaming will come up behind them and give an install procedure if they dont, Atari will lose a huge fan base of players.
So, I dont see them not having a native installer on the CDs. Itll be there, trust me.
Still have it installed on my box at home, have all the expansion packs, Core Contingency, and Battle Tactics, plus the umpteen million 3rd party units -- Vulcan Bertha, RoboTechKrog, etc etc etc.
Played TA:K , didnt like the fantasy element, but was a fun game. Nothing like seeing the Nidehogg Dragons appear and blow over your entire city.
Correct Netcraft is, that is a large amount of webservers that are going to get little or no ranking on MSN because of their choice of Webserver.
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Regretably this seems to be the case with MS, giving preferential treatment to those who will use their products. Id have to cite an earlier/. article stating Ballmer giving a 90% discount on goods/services if the Germans didnt go to Debian.
I see all this push for Ubuntu, if I were Branden, Id be somewhat depresssed. What I see needing to happen is for Branden to push for Base only. If Debian releases base only -- and thus letting all the other clones release on top of that, Debian will have a decent release schedule. Branden has to see this. Let the smaller maintainers get together to clean up the reponsitory.
Concentrating on a full release and to clean up the current repositories and release full dist on top of that is talking some crazy.
Ubuntu is good, it works, its somewhat stable and I use it for 90% of my machines at home. But do not forget that with no Debian, there would be NO Ubuntu. Nor would Canonical exist in its current form.
I wish Branden the best , I hope he can straighted out that mess.
No, really, it doesnt. At all. Out of the Box, Vanilla install. Not in the slightest bit.
But only if you have downloaded all the current patches, gotten all the fixes, have spent over 1000 dollars in extra software -- MSOffice, Virus Prot, SpamKiller, whatever else -- and then summarily rebooted the system umpteen time during this process, does it actually "work"
Ubuntu installer - cost , 99cents for a CDR.
Once Installed, apt-get update then, apt-get dist-upgrade then, apt-get upgrade -- for good measure.
If they are really going to compete with VMware , then it will have to work, and solid. This might be a catch 22 for MS though. It might cause migration of already existing users over to the Linux side of the fence. Then again it might not. End users arent going to be sitting in front of a VM, most likely a developer or sysadmin doing so, and most of those realize the validity of Linux, or so I feel anyway. Will this mean more cross over for our Community, probably not.
If your going to convert the world, have to get to the end user, not the admin.
This seems likely possible. Ive always maintained that there is a viable place for M$, it just happens to not be in my home, or in front of me as I work. Honestly if M$ developed a stable secure and open product, Id probably use it, might even encourage it. But will this happen?
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Ease of use is for those who dont want to learn. Would you put a chainsaw in the hands of someone that didnt know how to use it, just because it was easy to use and got the job done , even if it was sloppily done so?
Id rather have an educated user, a person of intelligence that can make intelligent decisions.
Ideally and educated and knowledgable user would and could make intelligent descisions. Not individuals for whom like you, frob your way through life in front of a Windows box, unawares as to half of whats going on.
Dont put the dependence on you, the End user to take responsiblity for your actions....no, Lets make MS responsible , its MS's fault that my machine does this, and my machine does that.
Bullshit. If the user were educated properly, probably half of the stuff that could happen, wouldnt happen.
Idiot.
but really , Gates however should stop saying things like Never, and Wont, and Thing of the Past. Sets himself up for failure when that happens.
Numerous times has he done this, only to be thwarted back by the hacker community, and the weak security model of his company.
Lest I remind everyone that if it werent for Gates and Baller , and ultimately all the developers at MS , that we wouldnt have malware, adware, and a large bevy of the numbers of viruses that exist.
Journalism as defined by the Websters as......
1. The collecting, writing, editing, and presenting of news or news articles in newspapers and magazines and in radio and television broadcasts.
2. Material written for publication in a newspaper or magazine or for broadcast.
3. The style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation.
6. Written material of current interest or wide popular appeal.
Ergo a Journalist is a person that writes such material. Ergo, Stupid Journalists.
What the fuck are you reading?
Trovalds comment doesnt validate the argument in anyway. Im really uncertain why it was put in there. Stupid Journalists, thats why.
Open is open regardless of the code used to do it in my opinion.
Emperor Guys think.
http://www.emperorlinux.com/
Always out to keep the Scottish Man down.
O'Gara, dug your hole deep, now lets see you get out of it.
Hmmmm...this is a largely unfounded claim. Let us go down the line here.
Commercial systems require their customers to depend on their companies for technical support. If there is a problem, users must often wait on hold (while paying for a toll call). Who in their right mind calls Microsoft anyway? While decentralized, it is often easier to get help with problems in Linux, because of a large community of developers and sysadmins that exist on any level, novice or veteran. As well as numerous At Cost Distros that actually give you support if you pay them for it -- Xandros, Linare, Redhat, Mandriva, and Suse/NLD. Ubuntu, rare in its form, offers support for a nominal fee per system.
So the claim that RTFM and Forums are the only support structures available is Farkian Dumbass and Farkian Asinine. Clearly the words of an uneducated individual.
And Honestly, using Messy SQL, Im forced to support this monumental peice of crap at my current place of business. MessySQL has nothing on Oracle, Sybase, MySQL, or PostGRESQL. It Truely is a POS (thats not Point of Service either).
Linux all the way, supports all races, creeds, and religious rights.
http://www.lesbian.mine.nu/ -- Lesbian GNU/Linux -- Nuff said.
or
http://www.mslinux.org/ -- For those who dont want to convert, or are in the closet about their love of linux. Redneck Uneducated Tobacco Chewin types that really are gay, and just dont accept themselves typically fall into this group.
The position of the satire was to poke humor at the almost stupidic nature of redneck/narrowminded/countryfolk individuals who are largely un informed about the status of technology and how it works. Having spent the first half of my career in the support field , before going into development , I was only too well aware of this. It is because of this stupidity that sites like rinkworks computer stupidities is popular ( http://rinkworks.com/stupid/ ). The problem being of course that I would not be surprised if M$ doesnt foster this kind of low grade intelligence to make its products sell better. The issue being of course that are the individuals in group A (where A = gays, minorities, and those of non standard religious ethic) larger or smaller than group B ( stupid and ignorant individuals incapable of thinking with a broad mind, more of a narrow one that would be narrower than say that of a laser width or less).
Anyway, to get to the end of the rabble, the comment was largely pointed at the uneducated over the minority. I find that the latter is far more acceptable to me, than its predecessor.
thunk it was a-gonna be the fine man's OS, an' not th' Fag Operatin' system, dawgone it. Them Fags dont need an OS of their own, as enny fool kin plainly see......Dawgone Fags need t'go an' haf their own place an stay away fum us straight fine christian types.....
License War. Which is better than the other? This goes back to the Tridge concept of Free as in beer vs Free as in Freedom. Honestly, I support whatever supports the further development of decent product. Would I donate money to Ubuntu...Most certainly. Do I purchase distributions to show my support....without a doubt. Xandros makes a release, I pick up a copy. Libranet , purchased a DL last night. Novell releases NLD / Suse 9.3.
Zemp, Opinions are like assholes , everyone's got one. Some have two, or three. I know I do at least. But, what I do note is that unlike most in here, I stand up for your right to express that opinion, and 99% of the time, defend you for that right.
Of course , as I say that, surely Im going to get blasted for the comment.
Ce La Vie.
Good enough for me. So why should I have to wait for Sun to release OpenSol?
I shouldnt really. Unless its going to be THAT much of a fabulous product. For that matter , got a copy of Java Desktop running at home, wasnt too pleased with it, so should OpenSol be any better?
Was anyone overly pleased with JDS? Most of the opinions Ive read were to the negative.
You want a copy of Solaris, go out and buy one. You want a free copy of Solaris, wait.
I forsee the box going online, and it going down within the first 5 minutes of it being up.
I still remember Gates saying that IIS was infallable and then watching Code Red come around and put Gates back into his place.
I have never largely been disappointed with ANY UT game that has been released. There is nothing like the feeling you get from pulling around in Tank and seeing a fully deployed Leviathan sitting there, charging up to take you out. With all 4 of its plasma turrets mounted with players spraying fire all over the place in your direction.
If Atari releases the game, and diverges from their original concept of giving a native installer , even though Transgaming will come up behind them and give an install procedure if they dont, Atari will lose a huge fan base of players.
So, I dont see them not having a native installer on the CDs. Itll be there, trust me.
this............
http://www.lod.org/Projects/Other//index.htm
My Clan still hosts games from time to time. If your interested drop me a mail, and Ill put you in the right direction.
Still have it installed on my box at home, have all the expansion packs, Core Contingency, and Battle Tactics, plus the umpteen million 3rd party units -- Vulcan Bertha, RoboTechKrog, etc etc etc.
Played TA:K , didnt like the fantasy element, but was a fun game. Nothing like seeing the Nidehogg Dragons appear and blow over your entire city.
Its largely because of Cavedog, that I love RTSs.
Correct Netcraft is, that is a large amount of webservers that are going to get little or no ranking on MSN because of their choice of Webserver.
/. article stating Ballmer giving a 90% discount on goods/services if the Germans didnt go to Debian.
Apache 41819229
Microsoft 12420068
Sun 1836275
Zeus 610819
Regretably this seems to be the case with MS, giving preferential treatment to those who will use their products. Id have to cite an earlier
I see all this push for Ubuntu, if I were Branden, Id be somewhat depresssed. What I see needing to happen is for Branden to push for Base only. If Debian releases base only -- and thus letting all the other clones release on top of that, Debian will have a decent release schedule. Branden has to see this. Let the smaller maintainers get together to clean up the reponsitory.
Concentrating on a full release and to clean up the current repositories and release full dist on top of that is talking some crazy.
Ubuntu is good, it works, its somewhat stable and I use it for 90% of my machines at home. But do not forget that with no Debian, there would be NO Ubuntu. Nor would Canonical exist in its current form.
I wish Branden the best , I hope he can straighted out that mess.
would greatly benefit the Point of Service industry.
No, really, it doesnt. At all. Out of the Box, Vanilla install. Not in the slightest bit.
But only if you have downloaded all the current patches, gotten all the fixes, have spent over 1000 dollars in extra software -- MSOffice, Virus Prot, SpamKiller, whatever else -- and then summarily rebooted the system umpteen time during this process, does it actually "work"
Ubuntu installer - cost , 99cents for a CDR.
Once Installed, apt-get update
then, apt-get dist-upgrade
then, apt-get upgrade -- for good measure.
Nuff said, Ubuntu -- It Just Works.
The following theory
"Moore observed an exponential growth in the number of transistors per integrated circuit and predicted that this trend would continue."
Thats going to be one big ass piece of hardware.
But , arent computers and systems , and ultimately the hardware in them, getting smaller?
If they are really going to compete with VMware , then it will have to work, and solid. This might be a catch 22 for MS though. It might cause migration of already existing users over to the Linux side of the fence. Then again it might not. End users arent going to be sitting in front of a VM, most likely a developer or sysadmin doing so, and most of those realize the validity of Linux, or so I feel anyway. Will this mean more cross over for our Community, probably not.
If your going to convert the world, have to get to the end user, not the admin.
Movies and Music releases on the GPL. Thatll fix it.
=)
This seems likely possible. Ive always maintained that there is a viable place for M$, it just happens to not be in my home, or in front of me as I work. Honestly if M$ developed a stable secure and open product, Id probably use it, might even encourage it. But will this happen?
Likely not.