when facing an enemy that's not stuck in the middle ages it may not be such a good idea to have troops in the field use radio communication at all unless absolutely necessary since the radio signals will be "like a huge flashing beacon" to the enemy who will be able to figure out where the troops are
So you deploy decoys - other beacons to smoke them out. Shouldn't be impossible to make the illlusion convincing. Firing on the decoy exposes their new position.
You provided a bunch of data with no real 'argument'. I'm going to have to take a guess at what you were trying to argue here. H.264 has had a lot of commercial backing, Theora has only had recent backing and not with such a substantial amount so obviously there is going to be more stuff for H.264 at the moment. It does not mean that Theora will not become a big contender, especially with the fact it's licensing is far more attractive than H.264's? I honestly don't know, but with big technology companies like Google and Nokia getting behind it...
H.264 licensors include Apple, Fujitsu, Hitachi, Philips, LG, Microsoft, Mitsubishi, NTT, Panasonic, Sharp, Siemans, Sony, Samsung and Toshiba.
That's the brand name hardware line-up at the starting-gate - and all have product in stores.
Google is big. Nokia is big. But not as big as this.
Then you look at all the familiar names on the list of 811 licensees... In media production. OEM manufacturing. Retail distribution. H.264 licensing is pocket change to these mega-corporations. H.264 hardware off-the-shelf.
It would take years - more likely a full ten years - to turn this around. I don't think Theora has that much time.
The article claims you are "already liable" if you do this - but here's the rub, unless you announce the camera you made the film with + what it was originally encoded with, who the hell is going to find out?
You want to place that bet after maxing out your line of credit for that $500 K whiz-bang nature production you plan to sell to NatGeo?
The cameras you use. The editing tools you use. The pro looks at everything that works towards successfully marketing his product, everything that might generate a secondary source of revenue.
Perhaps Nikon can be persuaded to loan him a lens. Maybe Apple will feature his work in an add for Final Cut Pro.
It's a bait and switch, they won't do anything right now because they want to get h.264 as widespread as possible. Once people are well and truly locked in, thats when they will screw everyone...
The professional using consumer tech in production work knows the rules.
For him the commercial license is a non-issue. Part of the cost of doing business.
It's really quite impossible to imagine how H.264 could get much deeper penetration than it has right now:
Please provide sources to backup your statements. Thanks.
Google may be "investing" in Theora, but:
A search of Google Shopping for "H.264 camcorder" will return 3,500 hits.
Consumer products, mostly. Ready to ship to the one-click shopper. Priced from $150-$5000.
A Google Image search for "H.264 video," returns 1.5 million hits, an Image search for "H.264 codec," 1.8 million. (Rounded)
46-47 pages, all relevant.
An Image search for "Theora video," 700, an Image search for "Theora codec," 29,000.
In the 811 AVC/H.264 licensees,, I see the Asian - the global - giants in industrial and consumer tech. Fujitsu. Hitachi. Mitsubishi. Panasonic. Samsung. Sony. Toshiba. Yamaha...
Not dozens of names the geek should recognize. Hundreds.
Of course, once the RIAA discovers that it has nailed a Federal judge's kid, they'd drop the case like a hot potato.
A cynical, lazy and dangerous assumption that is all too typically geek.
Spend some time talking to a kid whose father is a pastor, a policeman, a federal prosecutor or a strict "law and order" judge. It will help clear your head of such nonsense.
Unfortunately for Microsoft and Apple they actually believe that they control something. Currently there is no h.264 content out there for HTML5 video and Microsoft and Apple have no means to create it.
Tens of millions, hundreds of millions, of cell phones, web cams and camcorders generating H.264 video every minute of every day.
Two fantastically rich corporations with deep penetration into the consumer market space. Partnerships with global content providers and distribution networks.
Out of the game the both of them.
This is what On2 had to say before the merger:
What capabilities does H.264 add to the Adobe Flash Player?
Support of H.264 allows choice for consumers and enterprises, and gives users access to a broader range of content for the Flash Player. Many in the broadcast industry, including content providers for HD DVD/Blue Ray DVD, already encode in H.264. To enable the most efficient consumption of this content on the PC using the Flash Player, supporting H.264 makes sense, and allows users of the new player to avoid delays or other artifacts associated with a transcoding step for a better viewing experience. The already ubiquitous Flash Player has now extended its reach to play back H.264 content across all PC platforms, i.e., Windows, Mac and Linux.Support Center H.264 FAQ
Lets run with your thought experiment for a moment. Google release a blinding implementation of VP8 support in Chrome next week, then FF and Opera pick it up and release browser updates the week after.
When does VP8 hardware support reach consumers?
In mobile devices? Camcorders? PCs? HDTVs and the set-top box? Not next week. Quite probably not even next year.
Where are the editing tools for both the pro and the amateur?
Meanwhile the installed base for H.264 grows exponentially.
Microsoft conspicuously said today that IE9 will only support H.264 for HTML5 video. Add in Apple and you have the two largest consumer OS vendors backing the same codec. I suspect they do know something the public doesn't
Isn't the point that excellent surgeons (often found in big cities) can perform operations in remote areas often enduring poorer quality medical equipment and professionals?
How does this solve the problem of on-site facilities and support?
The robot and its support team. The cardiac surgery unit. Nurses, assistant surgeons or full surgical back-up teams.
I wonder what I'll get out of the PS3 class action deal? A coupon good for $12.50 at any sony store, and if you are lucky best buy.
That sounds about right.
The PS3 Fat was released in 2006.
Production ended in 2009. Warranties are expiring. More and more of these systems are selling at the used, refurbished, or scratch and dent price. By the time the class action winds down sales will have sunk to the garage sale price.
You are never going to see a settlement check for original retail list.
What you will see - at best - is a rough estimate of the market value of the OtherOS in the PS3 console video game market.
Of the 23 million or so owners of a PS3 FAT, how many do suppose will ever hear of the settlement or bother to complete the paperwork required to collect their share? Which will be months in processing.
Most people simply never needed $400 desktop productivity apps.
Almost no one pays retail list for the boxed set of MS Office.
The "Ultimate Steal" at $60 for those with student ID. MS Office for $10 if your employer participates in Microsoft's Home Use program.
Those of us that don't really need Word, nor really even like it, should not be held hostage by those that do.
The office manager has work that needs to go out by the close of the business day. He is employing fifty to one hundred and fifty temps he needs to be productive at every empty desk he has to fill.
That makes MS Office skills marketable at any age and at any job site south of the Arctic Circle.
Classes and certification programs no farther away than your local high school, community college, senior center, or public library.
If you owned a video game studio, who would you publish? Some guy who sat on his ass and got a degree in "video game design" from some no-name school?
Ever hear of CalArts?
Graduates in animation alone include Brad Bird, Tim Burton, Ralph Eggleston, Jim Reardon, John Lasseter, Lou Romano, Bruce W. Smith, Andrew Stanton, Genndy Tartakovsky... List of California Institute of the Arts people
What would it be worth to have those names on your contact list?
Interestingly, that could describe Hans Reiser has well. I think it's the disease of our profession. I would be willing to hire him, though I think maybe I'd want to review the case and work history a little more before making that decision. I would just make it very clear to him that he did not have sole authority over the network and make sure that others always had access.
If you know you have a known sociopath in physical control of your systems, how can you possibility have any confidence in your ability to control him?
it seems to me the sensible thing to do would have been to explain to his lawyer the quandary (give the passwords : criminal offence, don't give the passwords : criminal offence) and have the lawyer whip up some sort of agreement whereby the passwords could be handed over and Childs would be let go with no further action.
The job of a judge looking at a case "in equity" is to find a fair and workable solution to problems where pride and pedantry get in the way of common sense.
Is GnuPG what you need when what you are looking for is a uniform GUI for the non-technical end user and enterprise deployment and management tools for your business?
That is what jury nullification is for. Unfortunately, most jurors don't know about it and the judges refuse to tell them
The home town boy, the white bread kid, escaped the noose. The black man was lynched.
That has always been the reality of jury nullification - and the geek - the outsider, the prick, the wierdo - who looks to nullification for his salvation is a a god-damned fool.
The rules that apply to us DO NOT apply to rich people.
The geek might usefully compare his own income to the median for his city, county or metropolitan district - to see which side of the line he falls and how distant he is from the center.
Do you honestly think you can go back to prior cases and use that to show how something is or isn't a crime? What matters is how good your lawyer is and what sort of strings they can pull. Obviously, this guy's lawyer wasn't as good as the other guy's lawyer.
The geek tends to get the lawyering he deserves.
If only because what he really wants to do is to play the lead in one of the EFF's street theater productions.
It would absolve me from prosecution unless I violated any of the very specific rules that were listed.
The geek isn't always very good at distinguishing between civil and criminal actions. The question then becomes prosecution by who and under what set of rules.
The computer networks that sustain the city of San Francisco belong to the city of San Francisco. No court can allow them to be held hostage to any single individual. Not the system administrator. Not the mayor. Not anyone.
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Net Applications' openly published stats do not break down market share by markets.
They will not tell you which browser is most likely being deployed for corporate and institutional use, for example.
60% of the global market could translate into a much bigger slice of the enterprise market.
I'm not saying they should condone it, but a Wii is probably a lot cheaper than any other form of treatment or medication. Just saying.
"Probably" isn't good enough. "Just saying" isn't good enough.
The Wii has to be paid for out of your budget for durable medical goods and supplies.
There is a demand for medical oxygen.
Wheelchairs. Eyeglasses. Hearing aids. Diabetic test kits. Cardiac monitors....
There is a demand for the Wii.
The benefits of the portable oxygen tank can be demonstrated by at least a century of rigorous clinical research.
The medical value of the Wii --- unproven.
when facing an enemy that's not stuck in the middle ages it may not be such a good idea to have troops in the field use radio communication at all unless absolutely necessary since the radio signals will be "like a huge flashing beacon" to the enemy who will be able to figure out where the troops are
So you deploy decoys - other beacons to smoke them out. Shouldn't be impossible to make the illlusion convincing. Firing on the decoy exposes their new position.
You provided a bunch of data with no real 'argument'. I'm going to have to take a guess at what you were trying to argue here. H.264 has had a lot of commercial backing, Theora has only had recent backing and not with such a substantial amount so obviously there is going to be more stuff for H.264 at the moment. It does not mean that Theora will not become a big contender, especially with the fact it's licensing is far more attractive than H.264's? I honestly don't know, but with big technology companies like Google and Nokia getting behind it...
H.264 licensors include Apple, Fujitsu, Hitachi, Philips, LG, Microsoft, Mitsubishi, NTT, Panasonic, Sharp, Siemans, Sony, Samsung and Toshiba.
That's the brand name hardware line-up at the starting-gate - and all have product in stores.
Google is big. Nokia is big. But not as big as this.
Then you look at all the familiar names on the list of 811 licensees... In media production. OEM manufacturing. Retail distribution. H.264 licensing is pocket change to these mega-corporations. H.264 hardware off-the-shelf.
It would take years - more likely a full ten years - to turn this around. I don't think Theora has that much time.
The article claims you are "already liable" if you do this - but here's the rub, unless you announce the camera you made the film with + what it was originally encoded with, who the hell is going to find out?
You want to place that bet after maxing out your line of credit for that $500 K whiz-bang nature production you plan to sell to NatGeo?
The cameras you use. The editing tools you use. The pro looks at everything that works towards successfully marketing his product, everything that might generate a secondary source of revenue.
Perhaps Nikon can be persuaded to loan him a lens. Maybe Apple will feature his work in an add for Final Cut Pro.
It's a bait and switch, they won't do anything right now because they want to get h.264 as widespread as possible.
Once people are well and truly locked in, thats when they will screw everyone...
The professional using consumer tech in production work knows the rules.
For him the commercial license is a non-issue. Part of the cost of doing business.
It's really quite impossible to imagine how H.264 could get much deeper penetration than it has right now:
List of video services using H.264/MPEG-4 AVC,
H.264
Google products. 33,000 hits. (Rounded)
Please provide sources to backup your statements. Thanks.
Google may be "investing" in Theora, but:
A search of Google Shopping for "H.264 camcorder" will return 3,500 hits.
Consumer products, mostly. Ready to ship to the one-click shopper. Priced from $150-$5000.
A Google Image search for "H.264 video," returns 1.5 million hits, an Image search for "H.264 codec," 1.8 million. (Rounded)
46-47 pages, all relevant.
An Image search for "Theora video," 700, an Image search for "Theora codec," 29,000.
In the 811 AVC/H.264 licensees,, I see the Asian - the global - giants in industrial and consumer tech. Fujitsu. Hitachi. Mitsubishi. Panasonic. Samsung. Sony. Toshiba. Yamaha...
Not dozens of names the geek should recognize. Hundreds.
Critical mass.
Of course, once the RIAA discovers that it has nailed a Federal judge's kid, they'd drop the case like a hot potato.
A cynical, lazy and dangerous assumption that is all too typically geek.
Spend some time talking to a kid whose father is a pastor, a policeman, a federal prosecutor or a strict "law and order" judge. It will help clear your head of such nonsense.
Theora (or rather the VP3 codec) is older than H.264 by about 3 years.
A search of Google Shopping for "H.264 camcorder" will return 3,500 hits.
Including industrial and security video products.
A search of Google Images for "H.264 video" will return 1.5 million hits. (Rounded Up)
For "H.264 codec," 1.8 million hits.
46-47 pages, all relevant.
A search for "VP3 video," 19,000.
"Virtual Pool 3" making its first appearance on page 1.
A search for "VP3 codec," 8,000.
Typically, a screen shot of the K-lite codec pack.
Unfortunately for Microsoft and Apple they actually believe that they control something. Currently there is no h.264 content out there for HTML5 video and Microsoft and Apple have no means to create it.
Tens of millions, hundreds of millions, of cell phones, web cams and camcorders generating H.264 video every minute of every day.
Two fantastically rich corporations with deep penetration into the consumer market space. Partnerships with global content providers and distribution networks.
Out of the game the both of them.
This is what On2 had to say before the merger:
What capabilities does H.264 add to the Adobe Flash Player?
Support of H.264 allows choice for consumers and enterprises, and gives users access to a broader range of content for the Flash Player. Many in the broadcast industry, including content providers for HD DVD/Blue Ray DVD, already encode in H.264. To enable the most efficient consumption of this content on the PC using the Flash Player, supporting H.264 makes sense, and allows users of the new player to avoid delays or other artifacts associated with a transcoding step for a better viewing experience. The already ubiquitous Flash Player has now extended its reach to play back H.264 content across all PC platforms, i.e., Windows, Mac and Linux. Support Center H.264 FAQ
Lets run with your thought experiment for a moment. Google release a blinding implementation of VP8 support in Chrome next week, then FF and Opera pick it up and release browser updates the week after.
When does VP8 hardware support reach consumers?
In mobile devices? Camcorders? PCs? HDTVs and the set-top box? Not next week. Quite probably not even next year.
Where are the editing tools for both the pro and the amateur?
Meanwhile the installed base for H.264 grows exponentially.
There are 811 AVC/H.264 licensees and 26 licensors
Apple and Microsoft are licensors along with industrial mega-corps like Mitsubishi Electric, Sony and Toshiba.
Google and Canonical are licensees.
H.264 has tremendous strength simply in OEM support and brand-name consumer tech. There are no significant players missing here.
but you do this, and you get 20 years on average.
it seems like u.s. justice system is so fucked up.
In the American federal system, murder is almost always prosecuted under state law. Sentencing Guidelines As Applied To Murder [Oregon, 1998]
You want to see a change in sentencing? Talk to your state legislator.
Microsoft won't allow third-party codecs and/or plugins to do the job for them?
There are 811 licensees of AVC/H.264 video.
The global giants in brand-name consumer hardware production and distribution are all there.
Canonical is there.
If Shuttleworth decides Ubuntu needs H.264 to remain competitive on the desktop, the barrier to installing the codec by default is purely ideological.
Isn't the point that excellent surgeons (often found in big cities) can perform operations in remote areas often enduring poorer quality medical equipment and professionals?
How does this solve the problem of on-site facilities and support?
The robot and its support team. The cardiac surgery unit. Nurses, assistant surgeons or full surgical back-up teams.
I wonder what I'll get out of the PS3 class action deal?
A coupon good for $12.50 at any sony store, and if you are lucky best buy.
That sounds about right.
The PS3 Fat was released in 2006.
Production ended in 2009. Warranties are expiring. More and more of these systems are selling at the used, refurbished, or scratch and dent price. By the time the class action winds down sales will have sunk to the garage sale price.
You are never going to see a settlement check for original retail list.
What you will see - at best - is a rough estimate of the market value of the OtherOS in the PS3 console video game market.
Of the 23 million or so owners of a PS3 FAT, how many do suppose will ever hear of the settlement or bother to complete the paperwork required to collect their share? Which will be months in processing.
Most people simply never needed $400 desktop productivity apps.
Almost no one pays retail list for the boxed set of MS Office.
The "Ultimate Steal" at $60 for those with student ID. MS Office for $10 if your employer participates in Microsoft's Home Use program.
Those of us that don't really need Word, nor really even like it, should not be held hostage by those that do.
The office manager has work that needs to go out by the close of the business day. He is employing fifty to one hundred and fifty temps he needs to be productive at every empty desk he has to fill.
That makes MS Office skills marketable at any age and at any job site south of the Arctic Circle.
Classes and certification programs no farther away than your local high school, community college, senior center, or public library.
If you owned a video game studio, who would you publish? Some guy who sat on his ass and got a degree in "video game design" from some no-name school?
Ever hear of CalArts?
Graduates in animation alone include Brad Bird, Tim Burton, Ralph Eggleston, Jim Reardon, John Lasseter, Lou Romano, Bruce W. Smith, Andrew Stanton, Genndy Tartakovsky... List of California Institute of the Arts people
What would it be worth to have those names on your contact list?
Interestingly, that could describe Hans Reiser has well. I think it's the disease of our profession.
I would be willing to hire him, though I think maybe I'd want to review the case and work history a little more before making that decision. I would just make it very clear to him that he did not have sole authority over the network and make sure that others always had access.
If you know you have a known sociopath in physical control of your systems, how can you possibility have any confidence in your ability to control him?
Which is where this gets all goofy; he's already been fired, but he's expected to do *work* for them
Is this really all that goofy -
or are there other jobs in other industries where termination is as much a process as a singular event:
On-going cases or projects that need to be formally closed or transferred. Company property that needs to be inventoried and returned, and so on.
The job of a judge looking at a case "in equity" is to find a fair and workable solution to problems where pride and pedantry get in the way of common sense.
Is GnuPG what you need when what you are looking for is a uniform GUI for the non-technical end user and enterprise deployment and management tools for your business?
That is what jury nullification is for. Unfortunately, most jurors don't know about it and the judges refuse to tell them
The home town boy, the white bread kid, escaped the noose. The black man was lynched.
That has always been the reality of jury nullification - and the geek - the outsider, the prick, the wierdo - who looks to nullification for his salvation is a a god-damned fool.
The rules that apply to us DO NOT apply to rich people.
The geek might usefully compare his own income to the median for his city, county or metropolitan district - to see which side of the line he falls and how distant he is from the center.
Do you honestly think you can go back to prior cases and use that to show how something is or isn't a crime? What matters is how good your lawyer is and what sort of strings they can pull. Obviously, this guy's lawyer wasn't as good as the other guy's lawyer.
The geek tends to get the lawyering he deserves.
If only because what he really wants to do is to play the lead in one of the EFF's street theater productions.
It would absolve me from prosecution unless I violated any of the very specific rules that were listed.
The geek isn't always very good at distinguishing between civil and criminal actions. The question then becomes prosecution by who and under what set of rules.
The computer networks that sustain the city of San Francisco belong to the city of San Francisco. No court can allow them to be held hostage to any single individual. Not the system administrator. Not the mayor. Not anyone.