That's what's happening now. Without regulation, there would be nobody to protect them either.
Survival of the fitest. Might is right. Well, right now they are the strongest. For one thing Verisign runs the top 13 DNS servers. The backbone of the internet (fibre links etc) are owned and run by corporations. I think you forget who needs the protection.
A true free for all that only technological solutions could fix.
Ahh geek utopia. Have you noticed that there isn't a techinal solution to Spam? Or to hunger in the third world (joke)? Technical solutions do not solve all problems. In general problem on the net often have solutions that are part techical, part legislative and part social. I think you need to place less faith in technology to provide solutions to problems.
Even if we moved to a dog eat dog, the end result would be a techincal elite controlling the net and using/abusing for their own purposes. Our corporate overlords would be replaced by techincal ones. As someone who codes for a living, puts together their own PCs (and for others) and runs a network of 8 pcs at home, in other words someone who would benefit from government by technologists, say that this is a bad idea.
Firewall was on.(the only change I made before I hooked up as a matter of fact.) I had to use XP's until I could download a better one.
Interestingly the XP firewall at the moment has a vulnerability that leaves you unprotected for a short time (I read up to 7 seconds) on bootup. This is only going to be fixed with sp2. The point is, you should burn a CD of a decent firewall (the XP firewall also doesn't block outgoing, only incoming), and install that before you connect to the web.
The fact that the service went down for three days was a pretty good hint
Nup. That was a pretty good hint that their network is overloaded. That may be due to the fact that they have a lot of infecte blaster boxes on the network, but that does not mean that ISP themselves was infected.
Huh???
My point is that without some regulation, that is what will happen.
This is when I realized that the ISP was infected!
And how exactly did you reach that conclusion? What does this have to do with the ISP? It is about the tens of thousands of clueless users who have been infected by Blaster, not about the ISP. And for that matter, you should have installed a firewall before you thought about connecting to the web.
Meanwhile, back to IRC's. If it's as wild as they say it is, GOOD! Anything, and I mean ANYTHING that can bring us one step closer to anonymous, untracable internet usage is great. I like anything that might possibly force us to RESOLVE our problems, instead of making stupid work arounds and unenforcable laws.
Yah go anarchy. Bring on Versign to take over the web! Unregulated corporate dominance rocks! I want to give up my rights to RIAA! I think the web will solve all the problems of the world.
Before I could even select which updates to install, I had a windows messaging box (the Windows functionality, not MSN messager) pop up. Anyway, I finished installing all the updates, and then proceded to install a virus checker and spyware removal programs, and the virus checker indeed did find stuff (I forget what).
This has squat to do with worms and viruses. Windows 2K+ ships with windows messanger service set to start up automatically. Messenger service is designed for sysadmins to send message to the network. This has been exploited by spammers to sent out message box popups to people who haven't: 1. disabled the service or 2. Installed a firewall.
You should have installed a firewall *before* you connected to the web.
What's more, you have to go to the library to find your answer. I have net access at pretty much any given time, but I am at least 10 minutes away from a library.
What gives you the impression that the recent destructive worms are written by script kiddies? Every report I have read on the lastest worms (MyDoom, Sasser, Netsky and Bagel) have pointed out the high level of expertise needed code these worms. These have been written by serious programmers.
By definition a script kiddy is someone who can't code so downloads someone else's script to run. This definition has been expanded to include people who write simple scripts (eg the Anna Kornikova worm).
Make no mistake, the stereotype of a pimply faced 13 year old hunched over a computer in his room coding up the latest worm is dead. Numerous articles have pointed out the collusion between spammers and virus writers, the suggestion that virus writers are being payed to write these worms to provide zombies to use as spam relays.
For my part, I have pledged never again to work with Windows, ever. At all. The only repair I will ever again do to a Windows box is to install Linux on it -- barring that, I will simply unplug the power cable, leave it unplugged and consider that an improvement. The time has already come when I would sooner forego a computer altogether than touch Windows.
Good for you. Nothing like a little dogmatic pigheadedness. I personally prefer to use the right tool for the job. Windows boxes have their place. Some applications only run on Windows.
Remember - not a *single* major PC manufacturer I know of installs ANY critical updates on their home pc's they sell to the end user. Nothing. Nada. Dell, HP, Compaq, etc.
The Thinkpad T41 I bought recently had SP1 installed. Nothing else, but it is a step in the right direction.
Added to that under XP the TCP stack initialises, then the firewall starts up. There is a window of opportunity for even someone who has the firewall enabled to get infected. From what I have read, this window is not trivial, I seem to remember the figure of 7 seconds (don't quote me). This gets fixed in XP SP2.
I installed the CA AV that came free with the CDs of updates that MS is now shipping for free. With everything enabled and with the latest pattern file, it didn't catch a Netsky variant that came in by email, until I went to save the file to the HD. Given that the home network is sitting behind a NAT box, and that most information flows in and out through the router, the greatest vector for attack is email. If the AV can't pick this up on the way in I'm not interested. AVG had no problems.
And that's the fault of the authors of that code and *not* the language. Nothing makes me more insane than people who talk about how Perl is "write only". No, it's not. It's the people who write crappy Perl scripts and use every obfuscation feature they can to make the thing unreadable. It's perfectly possible to make readable Perl code, just take a look at POPFile [sf.net]. It's also perfectly possible to write unreadable C/C++: just look at the obfuscation contests.
No, it is largely the fault of the language. Perl is too open: TMTOWDI. Well some of those ways should not exist. period. The language allows some appalling sytax.
The easy way out is to blame the programmers. The problem with that is programmers are the same all over, they use whatever features are available to them. It takes an enormous amount of will power and a very systematic way of thinking to be avoid all of these sytactic errors. Most programmers don't have it and don't think that way. That is the reality of the world you live in. We all know that the problem is the programmers, so you design the language with that in mind.
That said I love some aspects of perl. I just finished writing a change management tool in perl, and I chose perl because of the regexpr support. But that doesn't change my opinion that perl should be seriously locked down and have 3/4 of the features removed.
I've been working as a DBA for over five years, with DB applications ranging from supply-chain management to e-commerce to bioinformatics; are you going to tell me I'm not a "real DBA with database experience?"
Yep. The point here is scale. Call me when you start measuring your databases in GB and rows (in tables, I'm not interested in what you can generate using cross joins) are being measured in millions.
As I said before the issue here is one of scale. MySQL is fine for small scale stuff, like what you are doing. In some cases it would be inappropriate for small scale stuff (high inser/update environment), but when you are talking serious data MySQL doesn't cut it.
You are (probably) using the appropriate tool for your environment (low insert, small size), but don't expect it to be the right tool for the job for everyone. Deal with it and move on. "Thats all".
I'll get back to you on that one. My father is a bit of an organ buff and he should know, although he is more likely to know of European Organs than US ones.
I think that is IPSec which is similar to a firewall, but not the same. Check out the following comment (turned up after a quick search, couldn't be bothered to find anything better). http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/ 190/commen t/23113#MSG
Crying wolf is only a problem when there isn't a wolf. In this case there is a wolf. A big one.
I think that the figures are accurate. Malware problems have been of the order of 6 times as bad in 2004 than they were in 2003.
By way of a personal anecdote, I've just spent a couple of nights cleaning up my parent's machine from a Bagle variant. This is the first time they have ever been infected.
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That's what's happening now. Without regulation, there would be nobody to protect them either.
Survival of the fitest. Might is right. Well, right now they are the strongest. For one thing Verisign runs the top 13 DNS servers. The backbone of the internet (fibre links etc) are owned and run by corporations. I think you forget who needs the protection.
A true free for all that only technological solutions could fix.
Ahh geek utopia. Have you noticed that there isn't a techinal solution to Spam? Or to hunger in the third world (joke)? Technical solutions do not solve all problems. In general problem on the net often have solutions that are part techical, part legislative and part social. I think you need to place less faith in technology to provide solutions to problems.
Even if we moved to a dog eat dog, the end result would be a techincal elite controlling the net and using/abusing for their own purposes. Our corporate overlords would be replaced by techincal ones. As someone who codes for a living, puts together their own PCs (and for others) and runs a network of 8 pcs at home, in other words someone who would benefit from government by technologists, say that this is a bad idea.
Firewall was on.(the only change I made before I hooked up as a matter of fact.) I had to use XP's until I could download a better one.
Interestingly the XP firewall at the moment has a vulnerability that leaves you unprotected for a short time (I read up to 7 seconds) on bootup. This is only going to be fixed with sp2. The point is, you should burn a CD of a decent firewall (the XP firewall also doesn't block outgoing, only incoming), and install that before you connect to the web.
The fact that the service went down for three days was a pretty good hint
Nup. That was a pretty good hint that their network is overloaded. That may be due to the fact that they have a lot of infecte blaster boxes on the network, but that does not mean that ISP themselves was infected.
Huh???
My point is that without some regulation, that is what will happen.
This costs money for a CD from Microsoft
Really?
This is when I realized that the ISP was infected!
And how exactly did you reach that conclusion? What does this have to do with the ISP? It is about the tens of thousands of clueless users who have been infected by Blaster, not about the ISP. And for that matter, you should have installed a firewall before you thought about connecting to the web.
Meanwhile, back to IRC's. If it's as wild as they say it is, GOOD! Anything, and I mean ANYTHING that can bring us one step closer to anonymous, untracable internet usage is great. I like anything that might possibly force us to RESOLVE our problems, instead of making stupid work arounds and unenforcable laws.
Yah go anarchy. Bring on Versign to take over the web! Unregulated corporate dominance rocks! I want to give up my rights to RIAA! I think the web will solve all the problems of the world.
Before I could even select which updates to install, I had a windows messaging box (the Windows functionality, not MSN messager) pop up. Anyway, I finished installing all the updates, and then proceded to install a virus checker and spyware removal programs, and the virus checker indeed did find stuff (I forget what).
This has squat to do with worms and viruses. Windows 2K+ ships with windows messanger service set to start up automatically. Messenger service is designed for sysadmins to send message to the network. This has been exploited by spammers to sent out message box popups to people who haven't:
1. disabled the service
or
2. Installed a firewall.
You should have installed a firewall *before* you connected to the web.
What's more, you have to go to the library to find your answer. I have net access at pretty much any given time, but I am at least 10 minutes away from a library.
What gives you the impression that the recent destructive worms are written by script kiddies? Every report I have read on the lastest worms (MyDoom, Sasser, Netsky and Bagel) have pointed out the high level of expertise needed code these worms. These have been written by serious programmers.
By definition a script kiddy is someone who can't code so downloads someone else's script to run. This definition has been expanded to include people who write simple scripts (eg the Anna Kornikova worm).
Make no mistake, the stereotype of a pimply faced 13 year old hunched over a computer in his room coding up the latest worm is dead. Numerous articles have pointed out the collusion between spammers and virus writers, the suggestion that virus writers are being payed to write these worms to provide zombies to use as spam relays.
For my part, I have pledged never again to work with Windows, ever. At all. The only repair I will ever again do to a Windows box is to install Linux on it -- barring that, I will simply unplug the power cable, leave it unplugged and consider that an improvement. The time has already come when I would sooner forego a computer altogether than touch Windows.
Good for you. Nothing like a little dogmatic pigheadedness. I personally prefer to use the right tool for the job. Windows boxes have their place. Some applications only run on Windows.
Remember - not a *single* major PC manufacturer I know of installs ANY critical updates on their home pc's they sell to the end user. Nothing. Nada. Dell, HP, Compaq, etc.
The Thinkpad T41 I bought recently had SP1 installed. Nothing else, but it is a step in the right direction.
Added to that under XP the TCP stack initialises, then the firewall starts up. There is a window of opportunity for even someone who has the firewall enabled to get infected. From what I have read, this window is not trivial, I seem to remember the figure of 7 seconds (don't quote me). This gets fixed in XP SP2.
Maybe the release date for longhorn has been delayed to wait until there are PCs capible of running it.
I hear the dreaded acronym XML with frightening frequency in articles that talk about Longhorn. I imagine that this would add considerable overhead.
http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1777
I installed the CA AV that came free with the CDs of updates that MS is now shipping for free. With everything enabled and with the latest pattern file, it didn't catch a Netsky variant that came in by email, until I went to save the file to the HD. Given that the home network is sitting behind a NAT box, and that most information flows in and out through the router, the greatest vector for attack is email. If the AV can't pick this up on the way in I'm not interested. AVG had no problems.
Javascript is a bitch to debug. Mozilla makes it far easier, but it is still (in my experience) the hardest language to debug.
Is that a clever refernce to Truckers by Terry Pratchett or a dumb reference to GNU? I'm confused.
And that's the fault of the authors of that code and *not* the language. Nothing makes me more insane than people who talk about how Perl is "write only". No, it's not. It's the people who write crappy Perl scripts and use every obfuscation feature they can to make the thing unreadable. It's perfectly possible to make readable Perl code, just take a look at POPFile [sf.net]. It's also perfectly possible to write unreadable C/C++: just look at the obfuscation contests.
No, it is largely the fault of the language. Perl is too open: TMTOWDI. Well some of those ways should not exist. period. The language allows some appalling sytax.
The easy way out is to blame the programmers. The problem with that is programmers are the same all over, they use whatever features are available to them. It takes an enormous amount of will power and a very systematic way of thinking to be avoid all of these sytactic errors. Most programmers don't have it and don't think that way. That is the reality of the world you live in. We all know that the problem is the programmers, so you design the language with that in mind.
That said I love some aspects of perl. I just finished writing a change management tool in perl, and I chose perl because of the regexpr support. But that doesn't change my opinion that perl should be seriously locked down and have 3/4 of the features removed.
What like the injustice of God coming to earth to save people from being justly punished?
Like the fact that maybe if God created the world, he is justice?
Please read the bible rather than just commenting on it.
I've been working as a DBA for over five years, with DB applications ranging from supply-chain management to e-commerce to bioinformatics; are you going to tell me I'm not a "real DBA with database experience?"
Yep. The point here is scale. Call me when you start measuring your databases in GB and rows (in tables, I'm not interested in what you can generate using cross joins) are being measured in millions.
As I said before the issue here is one of scale. MySQL is fine for small scale stuff, like what you are doing. In some cases it would be inappropriate for small scale stuff (high inser/update environment), but when you are talking serious data MySQL doesn't cut it.
You are (probably) using the appropriate tool for your environment (low insert, small size), but don't expect it to be the right tool for the job for everyone. Deal with it and move on. "Thats all".
And the platters make great drinks coasters. They tend to get scratched though.
Mozilla ain't squeaky clean. Go to the help section for the junk mail filter: "text to come". This has been the case since 1.3.
In general I agree with you. I just moved my parents from IE/OE to Mozilla recently and haven't heard any complaints yet.
> Most faults are software problems, not hardware,
What like the pentium floating point error?
OK, off the top of his head he mentioned 2:
1. Sydney Town hall organ, Australia
2. Liverpool Cathedral, England
No doubt there are others.
I know a little about the Sydney Town hall organ (I live in Sydney), in that it uses pneumatic action.
I'll get back to you on that one. My father is a bit of an organ buff and he should know, although he is more likely to know of European Organs than US ones.
I think that is IPSec which is similar to a firewall, but not the same. Check out the following comment (turned up after a quick search, couldn't be bothered to find anything better)./ 190/commen t/23113#MSG
http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists
Crying wolf is only a problem when there isn't a wolf. In this case there is a wolf. A big one.
I think that the figures are accurate. Malware problems have been of the order of 6 times as bad in 2004 than they were in 2003.
By way of a personal anecdote, I've just spent a couple of nights cleaning up my parent's machine from a Bagle variant. This is the first time they have ever been infected.