I skimmed the paper, searched for Lego, and as it turns out he's really not uses Legos to power his system. It's merely built out of Legos. I'm disappointed...I thought he developed some sort of fusion generator, a la Back to the Future. Add a flux capacitor and a DeLorean and then I'll really be impressed.
I guess this means I'll now be seeing nicely formatted and spell-checked scam letters from Nigeria, including presentations on how the money was tied up and how I can share in the profits.
So what you're saying is OpenOffice is really not very good. Check.
I use OO at home and Office at work and I find Office to be better all around. More responsive, more intuitive, faster to load. OO is adequate for many tasks but it's got a long way to go to surpass MS Office.
I'm with you on the Emacs thing though. vi be damned!
User gets distro. User installs distro. User considers the software that gives the OS its functionality to be the OS. I think one needs to compare OSes on equivalent functionality as shipped from the vendor. "Windows has x, y, and z; let's look at a RH installation which has x, y, and z as well".
Actually, I'd rather run OS X (29 security advisories) but all the good games are for Windows.
And for the BSD is dying trolls, FreeBSD 5.x has 23 security advisories listed, OpenBSD 3.2 has 29 security advisories.
So you see, it is clear from the numbers I've taken from a single source (a company I know nothing about), I have proven that you should dump Linux and move to Windows XP Home, OS X, or BSD. Don't hate the author of the article...hate your hole-filled bug-ridden trap-laden OS.
...it doesn't change the fact the name Lindows was chosen to benefit from the ubiquity of MS Windows. If the question of windows being a generic term wasn't a factor Lindows wouldn't have a leg to stand on. The company is only trying to increase market share by riding on the coattails of Windows' well-known name.
Of course, in Microsoft's home turf, the story has a different spin.
Let me see if I understand this. You're comparing an article in the Seattle PI with a Lindows press release and you claim the PI is the biased one? I don't think you understand the purpose of a press release. Of the 3 elements here, you (submitter), PI article, Lindows press release, 2 of them appear biased. 1 of them is not the PI article.
...appealing issues in a trial that hasn't even happened.
First, I thought you could only appeal rulings. Second, if the submitter actually mean "rulings" instead of "issues", how would this be possible? "Your honor, I'd like to appeal the decision you haven't made yet in the case that hasn't been heard..." Third, there's a trial? Who's on trial for what? I thought trials were for criminial cases.
This is all so confusing...I guess it's time for me to get a law degree
I've used both OO and Office. I have Office at my day job and on my wife's home computer and OO on my home computer. OO is much slower. The interface isn't as nice, i.e. it's not as easy to get things done. The startup time is abysmal (P4 1.5GHz, 512MB RAM)...open a spreadsheet, go get a cup of coffee while it opens (ok, it's not that bad but it feels like it). My demands on an office suite are not great - I use a spreadsheet for time tracking mostly (sometimes I'll work with data) and I use the word processor for letters, invoices, fax cover sheets, the occasional mailing label.
The large company I work for during the day has a deal with Microsoft where I can get the full version of the latest Office for $20. I'm going to be ordering that and dumping OO, because even for my modest needs I find OO cumbersome and annoying.
While one advantage of OO is it runs on multiple platforms, the big downside is it is a hinderance to productivity. Labor is expensive - the cost of Office for the office is less than the time spent wrestling with an immature product.
Not even Microsoft can make.NET scalable enough to sustain a good ol/.'ing.
It's only scalable if you plan it that way. The site seems to be working fine now (did you click on the correct link?) and if you had visited it you'd see:
It's an experimental research project run by the Interactive Visual Media Group at Microsoft Research
You expect a research project to be primed for loads of traffic? Of course, we all know that no Apache server has ever been slashdotted...oh wait, this just in from fedoranews.org
NOTICE 2004-02-05 11:00 AM
Sorry, we've been slashdotted. The KDE 3.2 articles will ben turn off for next few days.
Now that the rah rah posts have run their course (open source! sharing! vive la revolution!) let me provide my point of view as a reader.
I would rather pay for a book (or check it out from a library) than download it for free.
I am happy to pay money for a book because I get a book. Along with the book comes the convenience of reading in bed, on the couch, on the train...pretty much anywhere there is light. Sure, an ebook reader would give me that (more if it's backlit, less if you read at the beach) but then there's the satisfaction of holding a book, flipping through the pages, smelling that new (or old) book smell. The physical book adds value to the text and is worth paying for.
Would authors sell more books if they gave away their first few books for free? Who can know? A lot of dot com companies tried to give away services in the hopes of converting free users into paying users, but I don't know if the same model applies.
Damn, I never get it straight. Is this software free as in speech or free as in beer? Since the software is only good for about a year, I'd guess this is free as in beer, because my beer has an expiration date too. But does that mean Linux is free as in speech because it doesn't have an expiry? Of course some really skunky beers don't either. Now, can you have free as in beer in a cathedral? All the cathedrals I've been too serve wine. So is this free Windows free as in wine?
See, it's this kind of thing that is holding up the adoption of Linux. It's too confusing.
I appreciate the link to Microsoft's website. I've been looking all over for that thing and haven't had any luck finding it. You've saved me from a lot more time spent searching, my friend.
Nice response, thanks. I do use Linux...in another reply I mentioned at work we have a cluster of Xeon dualies (1 Dell 2650 and 3 Dell 1750s) running Linux and other assorted open source apps. The trolls don't bother me. I've been here long enough to expect them to come out whenever I mention Windows.
You know why I won't switch to linux on my desktop? Games.
First, let me be pedantic and tell you you're using pedantic incorrectly. Your point is wrong too. I didn't complain that I have to use CDs to hold the Linux distro or electricity to power the computer. I focused on the big picture: loss of productivity. Here's your sandwich analogy back at you:
I'm just getting ready to sit down to eat a sadwich. The food is on the table ready to be eaten and mmm mmm, it's a sandwich I like.
You walk in with the ingredients for another sandwich that you want to give me for free. It is not clear that your sandwich , that I must make, will be better than or even as good as the sandwich I have. Still, you want me to switch sandwiches because you're giving me one for free while the one I have I purchased from Quizno's, a large chain of sandwich shops.
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inventor of the Lego powered chocolate printer
I skimmed the paper, searched for Lego, and as it turns out he's really not uses Legos to power his system. It's merely built out of Legos. I'm disappointed...I thought he developed some sort of fusion generator, a la Back to the Future. Add a flux capacitor and a DeLorean and then I'll really be impressed.
...today is a new low for Slashdot.
I guess this means I'll now be seeing nicely formatted and spell-checked scam letters from Nigeria, including presentations on how the money was tied up and how I can share in the profits.
So what you're saying is OpenOffice is really not very good. Check.
I use OO at home and Office at work and I find Office to be better all around. More responsive, more intuitive, faster to load. OO is adequate for many tasks but it's got a long way to go to surpass MS Office.
I'm with you on the Emacs thing though. vi be damned!
User gets distro. User installs distro. User considers the software that gives the OS its functionality to be the OS. I think one needs to compare OSes on equivalent functionality as shipped from the vendor. "Windows has x, y, and z; let's look at a RH installation which has x, y, and z as well".
The Secunia list of products' vulnerabilites shows I made the right choice with Windows XP Home:
XP Home: 50 security advisories
RedHad 8: 140 security advisories
RedHat 9: 82 security advisories(they're getting better)
Debian 3.0: 276 security advisories
Gentoo 1.0: 194 security advisories
Mandrake 9.x: 158 security advisories
Actually, I'd rather run OS X (29 security advisories) but all the good games are for Windows.
And for the BSD is dying trolls, FreeBSD 5.x has 23 security advisories listed, OpenBSD 3.2 has 29 security advisories.
So you see, it is clear from the numbers I've taken from a single source (a company I know nothing about), I have proven that you should dump Linux and move to Windows XP Home, OS X, or BSD. Don't hate the author of the article...hate your hole-filled bug-ridden trap-laden OS.
Take action against what? His opinion?
Dear editor,
I like open source so I think the article is whack. Please fire the author and only hire people that agree with me. Thank you.
Are those from the submitter or does a slashdot editor do that?
He doesn't care. He's just pushing his affiliate link.
...it doesn't change the fact the name Lindows was chosen to benefit from the ubiquity of MS Windows. If the question of windows being a generic term wasn't a factor Lindows wouldn't have a leg to stand on. The company is only trying to increase market share by riding on the coattails of Windows' well-known name.
Of course, in Microsoft's home turf, the story has a different spin.
Let me see if I understand this. You're comparing an article in the Seattle PI with a Lindows press release and you claim the PI is the biased one? I don't think you understand the purpose of a press release. Of the 3 elements here, you (submitter), PI article, Lindows press release, 2 of them appear biased. 1 of them is not the PI article.
...appealing issues in a trial that hasn't even happened.
First, I thought you could only appeal rulings. Second, if the submitter actually mean "rulings" instead of "issues", how would this be possible? "Your honor, I'd like to appeal the decision you haven't made yet in the case that hasn't been heard..." Third, there's a trial? Who's on trial for what? I thought trials were for criminial cases.
This is all so confusing...I guess it's time for me to get a law degree
I am using 1.1. It would be silly of me to complain about an older version.
I've used both OO and Office. I have Office at my day job and on my wife's home computer and OO on my home computer. OO is much slower. The interface isn't as nice, i.e. it's not as easy to get things done. The startup time is abysmal (P4 1.5GHz, 512MB RAM)...open a spreadsheet, go get a cup of coffee while it opens (ok, it's not that bad but it feels like it). My demands on an office suite are not great - I use a spreadsheet for time tracking mostly (sometimes I'll work with data) and I use the word processor for letters, invoices, fax cover sheets, the occasional mailing label.
The large company I work for during the day has a deal with Microsoft where I can get the full version of the latest Office for $20. I'm going to be ordering that and dumping OO, because even for my modest needs I find OO cumbersome and annoying.
While one advantage of OO is it runs on multiple platforms, the big downside is it is a hinderance to productivity. Labor is expensive - the cost of Office for the office is less than the time spent wrestling with an immature product.
Ah, back in the day (1990) Champs had 10 cent wing nights. 50 wings, $5. What do they go for now?
Article title: "Why Run Free Software on a PDA?" Article host: linuxdevcenter.com Submitter: The article's author.
Not even Microsoft can make .NET scalable enough to sustain a good ol /.'ing.
It's only scalable if you plan it that way. The site seems to be working fine now (did you click on the correct link?) and if you had visited it you'd see:
It's an experimental research project run by the Interactive Visual Media Group at Microsoft Research
You expect a research project to be primed for loads of traffic? Of course, we all know that no Apache server has ever been slashdotted...oh wait, this just in from fedoranews.org
NOTICE 2004-02-05 11:00 AM
Sorry, we've been slashdotted. The KDE 3.2 articles will ben turn off for next few days.
From netcraft:
The site fedoranews.org is running Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) (Red-Hat/Linux) mod_ssl/2.8.12 OpenSSL/0.9.6b DAV/1.0.3 PHP/4.1.2 mod_perl/1.26 on Linux.
Hopefully fedoranews.org "will ben" turn on the articles soon. In the meantime, wwmx.org remains available for browsing.
Candygram, anyone?
The beef industry. It's what's for dinner.
'nuff said.
For me, at least.
Now that the rah rah posts have run their course (open source! sharing! vive la revolution!) let me provide my point of view as a reader.
I would rather pay for a book (or check it out from a library) than download it for free.
I am happy to pay money for a book because I get a book. Along with the book comes the convenience of reading in bed, on the couch, on the train...pretty much anywhere there is light. Sure, an ebook reader would give me that (more if it's backlit, less if you read at the beach) but then there's the satisfaction of holding a book, flipping through the pages, smelling that new (or old) book smell. The physical book adds value to the text and is worth paying for.
Would authors sell more books if they gave away their first few books for free? Who can know? A lot of dot com companies tried to give away services in the hopes of converting free users into paying users, but I don't know if the same model applies.
My barcode decodes to "THX-1138"...
Damn, I never get it straight. Is this software free as in speech or free as in beer? Since the software is only good for about a year, I'd guess this is free as in beer, because my beer has an expiration date too. But does that mean Linux is free as in speech because it doesn't have an expiry? Of course some really skunky beers don't either. Now, can you have free as in beer in a cathedral? All the cathedrals I've been too serve wine. So is this free Windows free as in wine?
See, it's this kind of thing that is holding up the adoption of Linux. It's too confusing.
I appreciate the link to Microsoft's website. I've been looking all over for that thing and haven't had any luck finding it. You've saved me from a lot more time spent searching, my friend.
Nice response, thanks. I do use Linux...in another reply I mentioned at work we have a cluster of Xeon dualies (1 Dell 2650 and 3 Dell 1750s) running Linux and other assorted open source apps. The trolls don't bother me. I've been here long enough to expect them to come out whenever I mention Windows.
You know why I won't switch to linux on my desktop? Games.
First, let me be pedantic and tell you you're using pedantic incorrectly. Your point is wrong too. I didn't complain that I have to use CDs to hold the Linux distro or electricity to power the computer. I focused on the big picture: loss of productivity. Here's your sandwich analogy back at you:
I'm just getting ready to sit down to eat a sadwich. The food is on the table ready to be eaten and mmm mmm, it's a sandwich I like.
You walk in with the ingredients for another sandwich that you want to give me for free. It is not clear that your sandwich , that I must make, will be better than or even as good as the sandwich I have. Still, you want me to switch sandwiches because you're giving me one for free while the one I have I purchased from Quizno's, a large chain of sandwich shops.