You fail it! You must include the whole quote to receive credit for your effort. Tell us how you will get other humans to work for them and tell us which mines we will toil in.
If you're too lazy to read headlines, a new way to find writings might just save your soul.
If you're too lazy to read headlines you're probably not interested in finding "writings". On the other hand, if one really is interested in these writings you speak of perhaps the headlines will be of more use, especially when some of the pictures are the faces of the columnists who produced said writings.
The deal is for one license. McNealy was initially puzzled at how a single license could possibly be enough for the Chinese population, but when your stock is trading at $3/share, $50 is $50.
In the meantime, the quiet hum of CD duplicators echoes across the middle kingdom...
aka revenge of the nerds. A website where picked-on kid reports the bullying action and the names of the bullies, to include e-mail address, cell phone number, IM nick, address, etc. Sympathic souls would take up the cause to harass the bully in creative ways. I envision it as the slashdot effect for punks...
Since when are Google searches mandatory? Did I miss a memo? Oh wait, I know, I bet in was in that memo with the thing about the TPS report cover sheets. Damn, looks like I'll be working this weekend to retrofit my submissions...
Well, then, your dad's a pussy and apparently the apple hasn't fallen very far from the tree, seeing as how you're posting AC. What you don't realize in your youthful ignorance is that your posting actually supports the counter case. Save it, come back in 10-15 years, and you'll see what I mean.
...you're a pussy. Sorry, that's the truth and not a troll. Here's the evidence:
Unfortunately we've had instances where all of these rules - especially that last one - have been broken, so now we are looking at getting more specific.
Now you're "looking at getting more specific"? Fuck, man, what the hell? Your kids have broken the rules, repeatedly apparently, and now you're considering doing something? What, the stern talking to didn't work? Did you try shaking your fist at them too?
Parents, once you're past making the huge mistake of actually letting the kids have computers in their rooms
Ummm, did you think about undoing the mistake? You've told us it's a mistake...now it's time to tell your kids as well. Then take the computers out and set up a family computer area. Yes, your children will be mad but that's how it goes. You get respect by setting limits, enforcing fair rules, and admitting to mistakes you have made.
You don't have to be a hammer but you do need to be firmer than you are now. You are not in the house to be a buddy, you're there to be a parent. You've set very lenient boundaries (computers in the rooms? Man...), they've shown that those boundaries are too loose (breaking the rules) so it's time to move the boundaries in. Let them earn the privleges you've given them...it seems they've taken them for granted.
There is a reason 11, 12, and 15 year olds can't just go out, quit school, and get an apartment. They think they're ready, they think they're adults, but they're not. That's your job. Now get to it.
There are no others...no action once a woman gets a look at the contents of the bookshelves, hence "The Joy of Cybersex" seen on one of the shelves. Hell, even Vegas bachelor party shots didn't have any real action in them.
If I had points I'd mod you up. From time to time my wife still throws out comments about the speaker wires along the wall. Crown moulding would help some...haven't gotten around to it yet. I sent her a link to the article and she came back with, "$800 speakers?!?!". There's no winning...she'd be happy watching DVDs with the sound coming from the TV's built in 3" speakers.
all election software were required to be open source, this problem would be much reduced
That's an interesting idea. How about this? Require that all election software source code be given to the government?
I wasn't arguing against open source or free software; I was arguing that the software being closed source is not why the results turned out as they did.
You act as if you can't pay people to write open source code.
No I don't. I just didn't address that topic. Tell me, who should pay?
I think that closed software/hardware solutions need to be declared unconstitutional. If we can't trust that the results are accurate...
Closed source does not equal untrustworthy any more than open source equals trustworthy. Rigorous testing is necessary, as is a reliable audit trail.
we risk our democracy
We're actually a republic, but I agree with your point that trustworthy results are paramount. My stance is that no one development paradigm will inherently produce more reliable software than another.
Open sourcing a system means it's harder to introduce a backdoor.
How about this: open sourcing means it's easier to introduce a back door. Consider the development teams. On one hand you have a larger pool of anonymous developers (unless you require some sort of ID check), some of whom may have an interest in subverting the voting process. The code is being reviewed by people who are anonymous (unless you require some sort of ID check) and may have an interest in subverting the voting process. The people are all doing work on the software as an avocation.
On the other hand you have a company with leadership pushing the company to be successful and you have a paid staff who are dependant on the company's success. There is accountability (civil, criminal, or just plain losing your job).
...if you think that anyone, open or closed source, can be made to meet an immutable deadline without some kind of tradeoff
I never claimed there would not be any tradeoffs, nor do I agree that quality must suffer. That's a topic for another day. In reality there are times when longer hours are called for. My point was only that it is easier to work paid employees longer than unpaid employees.
It's possible to have paid developers working on open source software, you know.
Yes, I know. I tried to think of a way it would work in this situation. I don't think a company would pay developers just to make that software available to competitors. The government could do it, but at what level? Maybe the best thing is to have the federal government pay for the development of a paperless voting system. That brings up a new set of concerns though...
Slashdot Mirror
You fail it! You must include the whole quote to receive credit for your effort. Tell us how you will get other humans to work for them and tell us which mines we will toil in.
Sigh...no one cares about quality any more...
It now comes with new Netflix queue management software - at no extra charge!
If you're too lazy to read headlines, a new way to find writings might just save your soul.
If you're too lazy to read headlines you're probably not interested in finding "writings". On the other hand, if one really is interested in these writings you speak of perhaps the headlines will be of more use, especially when some of the pictures are the faces of the columnists who produced said writings.
The deal is for one license. McNealy was initially puzzled at how a single license could possibly be enough for the Chinese population, but when your stock is trading at $3/share, $50 is $50.
In the meantime, the quiet hum of CD duplicators echoes across the middle kingdom...
The preceding anonymous glowing testimonial has been brought to you by "The Kompany".
It also smells like canned troll...
we've only seen the demos by the local vendor but it is really promising
Local vendor, eh? Hmmm....
Profit!!!!
:)
I neglected to mention this would be a pay service
I can't believe it hasn't been solved by now...that was one whole president ago! Here's the old news.
The preceding post was brought to you by John "Fat Lip" Kramer, aka "The Black Eye" and "The Guy with a Limp"
aka revenge of the nerds. A website where picked-on kid reports the bullying action and the names of the bullies, to include e-mail address, cell phone number, IM nick, address, etc. Sympathic souls would take up the cause to harass the bully in creative ways. I envision it as the slashdot effect for punks...
Since when are Google searches mandatory? Did I miss a memo? Oh wait, I know, I bet in was in that memo with the thing about the TPS report cover sheets. Damn, looks like I'll be working this weekend to retrofit my submissions...
Well, then, your dad's a pussy and apparently the apple hasn't fallen very far from the tree, seeing as how you're posting AC. What you don't realize in your youthful ignorance is that your posting actually supports the counter case. Save it, come back in 10-15 years, and you'll see what I mean.
...you're a pussy. Sorry, that's the truth and not a troll. Here's the evidence:
Unfortunately we've had instances where all of these rules - especially that last one - have been broken, so now we are looking at getting more specific.
Now you're "looking at getting more specific"? Fuck, man, what the hell? Your kids have broken the rules, repeatedly apparently, and now you're considering doing something? What, the stern talking to didn't work? Did you try shaking your fist at them too?
Parents, once you're past making the huge mistake of actually letting the kids have computers in their rooms
Ummm, did you think about undoing the mistake? You've told us it's a mistake...now it's time to tell your kids as well. Then take the computers out and set up a family computer area. Yes, your children will be mad but that's how it goes. You get respect by setting limits, enforcing fair rules, and admitting to mistakes you have made.
You don't have to be a hammer but you do need to be firmer than you are now. You are not in the house to be a buddy, you're there to be a parent. You've set very lenient boundaries (computers in the rooms? Man...), they've shown that those boundaries are too loose (breaking the rules) so it's time to move the boundaries in. Let them earn the privleges you've given them...it seems they've taken them for granted.
There is a reason 11, 12, and 15 year olds can't just go out, quit school, and get an apartment. They think they're ready, they think they're adults, but they're not. That's your job. Now get to it.
Oh, and check out the site in my sig too.
Yes, that worked so well for the music companies.
I think you're not a parent.
There are no others...no action once a woman gets a look at the contents of the bookshelves, hence "The Joy of Cybersex" seen on one of the shelves. Hell, even Vegas bachelor party shots didn't have any real action in them.
Why red? Why not blue or green? Was there a market study done that indicated this was the best color?
If I had points I'd mod you up. From time to time my wife still throws out comments about the speaker wires along the wall. Crown moulding would help some...haven't gotten around to it yet. I sent her a link to the article and she came back with, "$800 speakers?!?!". There's no winning...she'd be happy watching DVDs with the sound coming from the TV's built in 3" speakers.
I've not heard of people lying to get commit rights to open source software projects
Sure, who wants to sabotage PHPMyAdmin? But the voting software used in the US? That's a different story...
a fairly rigorous process of code review and debate by well known and trusted people can get code into the project
Yes, but this is still less rigorous than the hiring process.
all election software were required to be open source, this problem would be much reduced
That's an interesting idea. How about this? Require that all election software source code be given to the government?
I wasn't arguing against open source or free software; I was arguing that the software being closed source is not why the results turned out as they did.
You act as if you can't pay people to write open source code.
No I don't. I just didn't address that topic. Tell me, who should pay?
I think that closed software/hardware solutions need to be declared unconstitutional. If we can't trust that the results are accurate...
Closed source does not equal untrustworthy any more than open source equals trustworthy. Rigorous testing is necessary, as is a reliable audit trail.
we risk our democracy
We're actually a republic, but I agree with your point that trustworthy results are paramount. My stance is that no one development paradigm will inherently produce more reliable software than another.
Open sourcing a system means it's harder to introduce a backdoor.
How about this: open sourcing means it's easier to introduce a back door. Consider the development teams. On one hand you have a larger pool of anonymous developers (unless you require some sort of ID check), some of whom may have an interest in subverting the voting process. The code is being reviewed by people who are anonymous (unless you require some sort of ID check) and may have an interest in subverting the voting process. The people are all doing work on the software as an avocation.
On the other hand you have a company with leadership pushing the company to be successful and you have a paid staff who are dependant on the company's success. There is accountability (civil, criminal, or just plain losing your job).
...if you think that anyone, open or closed source, can be made to meet an immutable deadline without some kind of tradeoff
I never claimed there would not be any tradeoffs, nor do I agree that quality must suffer. That's a topic for another day. In reality there are times when longer hours are called for. My point was only that it is easier to work paid employees longer than unpaid employees.
Open source is not a cure for solid software development practices
And "Preview" is not a cure for poor proofreading skills. I meant, of course, open source is not a cure for *poor* software development practices...
It's possible to have paid developers working on open source software, you know.
Yes, I know. I tried to think of a way it would work in this situation. I don't think a company would pay developers just to make that software available to competitors. The government could do it, but at what level? Maybe the best thing is to have the federal government pay for the development of a paperless voting system. That brings up a new set of concerns though...