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Epson Creates Tiny Flying Robot

xyote writes "As reported by the Inquirer. More info on Epson's website with a nice picture with explanatory labels and all. It weighs a little over 10g, uses an 'ultra-thin ultrasonic' motor and Bluetooth for remote control." Epson is using the robot to showcase their micromechatronics technology, and by exhibiting it, they hope to discover and test problems with using robots in three dimensions.

261 comments

  1. Featured Use? by dukeluke · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nice - now all we need is a handy super miniature X10 cam to attach to it!

    Seriously, what other useful projects than a camera could we attach to this little contraption?

    1. Re:Featured Use? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd also like a microphone. It's much better with the audio.

    2. Re:Featured Use? by ambienceman · · Score: 1
      yeah. that'll have a WHOLE LOTTA uses with a camera

      can you say voyeurism to the fullest?

      No. that's wrong...i shouldnt think like that
    3. Re:Featured Use? by ambienceman · · Score: 1

      yeah...i guess if you're tired of getting hairballs caught in your throat, you could fly that thing to your g/f's place and take care of the situation covertly.

    4. Re:Featured Use? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Seriously, what other useful projects than a camera could we attach to this little contraption?"

      i recently read a news item about declassified CIA toys, which included a miniature dragonfly-shaped remote controlled spy-robot.

      IIRC it was all mechanically driven and had a combustion engine running on alcohol.

      but the spooks soon found out any light breeze would blow the robot off course. THAT is the main problem with miniature flying robots.

    5. Re:Featured Use? by Kissing+Crimson · · Score: 1

      Maybe this time Paris Hilton wouldn't be lying when she says she didn't about the camera.

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    6. Re:Featured Use? by Frymaster · · Score: 2, Insightful
      yeah. that'll have a WHOLE LOTTA uses with a camera

      one word: military.

      now, i'm not saying that the dod is going to buy a bunch of these down at frys and ship 'em off to the overseas theatre d'jour - but this is exactly the kind of tech that the military will want to embrace and extend (and explode). put a camera and a bomb on this and you have the perfect tool for eliminating heavily unarmed and shoeless enemy combatants.

    7. Re:Featured Use? by ambienceman · · Score: 0

      "shoeless"?

      maybe they'll put some heat seeking sensors on that thing. those shoeless smelly feet can't hide then
    8. Re:Featured Use? by warrped · · Score: 1

      Oh, you know... spice harvesting, sandworm monitoring. The usual stuff.

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    9. Re:Featured Use? by plenTpak · · Score: 1

      tracking device, chemical/biological agents, chemical/biological detectors, microphone or maybe some sort of 2-way communications device...

      a camera (with IR?) would also be useful for scouting areas a human could not safely or easily reach, say in a burning building or something like that.

    10. Re:Featured Use? by MAJ+Rantage · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Believe it or not, the military does do things besides blow up stuff.

      Probably the first use the military would consider for these does not involve combat, but rather reconnaissance. An earlier post jokingly advised putting an X10 cam on one of these, but such a capability is exactly what would benefit both peacekeepers and police forces in urban areas. Much cheaper than a UAV, these things could hover over rooftops to see areas held by insurgents to avoid further bloodshed.

      Modified flying bots could also be used to detect mines, explosive residue, and chemical or biological agents.

      So perhaps before you jump on the soldiers-are-babykillers bandwagon, you should consider how the military can (and does) leverage cutting edge technology to save lives.

    11. Re:Featured Use? by karb · · Score: 1
      heavily unarmed

      I'm assuming this means that instead of not being armed with pistols or rifles, they are instead not armed with machine guns and missile launchers?

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    12. Re:Featured Use? by Alien54 · · Score: 1

      Put a couple of print heads on it, and use it for graffitti.

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    13. Re:Featured Use? by dukeluke · · Score: 1

      Glad to see someone saw where I was going with my joke about the X10 cam - as annoying as they are - they could come in handy here for the military, police, or the prankster. I can imagine a few skate stunts that would be best captured by having a hovering chopper filming it rather than a human getting plastered by the board...then again? - ;-P

    14. Re:Featured Use? by sjonke · · Score: 1

      What else but a nose hair trimmer?

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    15. Re:Featured Use? by higon · · Score: 1

      some are already working to build it for military use, though.

      robofly
      it seems really...

      #Too bad Japanese would use this thing just for entertainment.

    16. Re:Featured Use? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      look out for the hello kitty version coming to stores by xmas :)

    17. Re:Featured Use? by ViolentGreen · · Score: 1

      This is controled by bluetooth though so it doesn't have a lot of range nor the bandwith for transmitting video (though stills might be acceptable). Additionally, if someone knew the military was using it, they could have something that detects the bluetooth signal and tries to hack it or at the very least alerts it's presence.

      In short. These could potentially have a lot of military uses but I think they would need another communication method besides bluetooth.

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    18. Re:Featured Use? by pvt_medic · · Score: 1

      Military already has these. While most information about them is classified, thy are about palm size and are little planes not helicopter like devices. They also done work with miniblimps. and they do just that they have little video cameras. Its not very pratical to use these means for bombing. You cant get that much explosive on one of them and still have them undetectable. Also, when the military likes to make things go boom, they do it with a little more panache.

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    19. Re:Featured Use? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Believe it or not, the military does do things besides blow up stuff.
      Indeed: they run stuff over, shoot it, pull it down, suffocate it, beat it senseless and, on rare occasions, ship it to concentration camps in Cuba.

      Blowing stuff up is the preference though since it's hard to do all those other things unles you are in the same general neighbourhoo as the thing you are destroying

    20. Re:Featured Use? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only thing funnier than an angry troll is one that is angry AND uneducated.

    21. Re:Featured Use? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unarmed is a pretty valid comment here...

      8000 or so civilians are confirmed killed so far by American fire in Iraq. www.iraqbodycount.org

      In that fateful day in Mogadashu ("Blackhawk Down"), estimates had 5000 Somalis killed in one day, many of them civilians going about their business.

    22. Re:Featured Use? by DrDebug · · Score: 1

      You could always put a large syringe and needle on it and threaten Princess Leia while she is imprisoned in the Death Star...

    23. Re:Featured Use? by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > instead of not being armed with pistols or rifles...

      Naw, lightly unarmed means that it simply has a blowgun. Unfortunately, with no respiratory system, not to mention a mouth, using it is a bit more difficult. So much for quality control.

    24. Re:Featured Use? by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > a camera (with IR?) would also be useful for scouting [...] a burning building

      (I know the context is a bit messy with my selective quoting)

      I don't know much about IR, but how useful would it be in a flaming building? Doesn't fire throw off IR signals, or am I just being clueless? Probably the latter.

    25. Re:Featured Use? by karb · · Score: 1
      Unarmed is a pretty valid comment here...

      If unarmed was the original comment, I wouldn't have replied ... the original comment said "heavily unarmed", which makes no sense whatsoever. It's like saying "heavily uncooked".

      Since you brought it up ... the US is not deliberately killing Iraqi civilians, which is, coincidentally, a practice popular with the prior regime and current insurgency.

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    26. Re:Featured Use? by cfuse · · Score: 1
      Much cheaper than a UAV, these things could hover over rooftops to see areas held by insurgents to avoid further bloodshed.

      ... Or increase the accuracy of it.

      So perhaps before you jump on the soldiers-are-babykillers bandwagon, you should consider how the military can (and does) leverage cutting edge technology to save lives.

      Of course the military is in the business of saving lives - just not those of the enemy. Don't get confused by modern language (ie. "peacekeeping") and media sanitization, armies are intended for one purpose - to kill or threaten to kill. Bloodless conflict is a propaganda fantasy.

    27. Re:Featured Use? by MAJ+Rantage · · Score: 3, Informative

      As a former member of the U.S. Army and a veteran of the first Gulf War, I am well aware that armies are designed to go places and break things. In Basic Training we were taught how to shoot and use a bayonet, not how to distribute food off the back of a pickup truck.

      That said, the U.S. military is not full of bloodthirsty killers. Sure, you may occasionally run into the REMF yahoo who is eager to "go to war" but any soldier, sailor, airman or Marine with time under his or her belt will know the sobering facts of war: deployment away from ones' family and the potential loss of life.

      These guys also are well aware of the fact that you don't earn the trust and favor of the people you are trying to liberate by killing indiscriminately....which is the key motivation behind the development of smart munitions such as cruise missiles and laser-guided bombs.

      And these are the weapons that can be more accurately guided (not just at the bad guys but away from the innocents) by the kind of flying robot discussed earlier. If nothing else, it can give a squad leader a birds-eye-view of the area so he can avoid taking his people into an ambush or getting civilians caught in a crossfire.

    28. Re:Featured Use? by knobmaker · · Score: 1
      the original comment said "heavily unarmed", which makes no sense whatsoever.

      Unless, of course, you actually have a sense of humor. Then it makes a great deal of sense.

    29. Re:Featured Use? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Before putting an X10 camera on the device they should consider the following.
      X10 lost a $4.3 million lawsuit for stealing technology, for failure to pay, and for bullying and has declared bankruptcy.

      X10's Chairman, a Singapore resident, is the bully in our book, Escape from Paradise. In fact, most of Escape from Paradise is about Chung & X10.

      X10 owes its creditors between $10 and $50 million. The company filed what the bankruptcy court termed a "deficient" filing, meaning that it lacked a statement of its financial affairs. The court set a 15-day deadline for the completion of the filing, or X10 risks a dismissal.

      In Escape from Paradise, we explained CLEARLY what X10 was doing. X10 was generating losses in the US, and shifting over their profits to the parent company in Hong Kong. The profits most likely wind in the tax-free haven of Bermuda, at Chungco Bermuda Ltd, the holding company of X10 in Hong Kong. X10's creditors have a long way to go to catch up with the elusive Hin Chew Chung.

      John Harding (no Anonymous Coward, I)

      http://www.escapefromparadise.com/NewFiles/chc.h tm l

    30. Re:Featured Use? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      When did X10 come under the control of this Chung person? Twenty years ago I bought a lot of stuff from X10 (assuming it was the same company) and it seemed like a decent enough outfit.

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    31. Re:Featured Use? by stpats · · Score: 1

      ...the lengths printer companies will go to to find out who's filling customer's ink cartridges with non-official(tm) ink!

    32. Re:Featured Use? by braindigitalis · · Score: 1

      ultrasound would be useful, but ive no idea how much it would weigh. It may be useful to firefighters, law enforcement, etc, but in the case of firefighting, i doubt this contraption is fireproof enough ;-)

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    33. Re:Featured Use? by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > i doubt this contraption is fireproof enough

      That's a good point. I wonder if a small fireproof electronic device is even possible with today's tech.

  2. Epsonborg... by ambienceman · · Score: 3, Funny

    "You have been trying to install third party ink cartridges...you will be assimilated..."

    1. Re:Epsonborg... by danielsfca2 · · Score: 1

      "The tiny robot has an impressive capacity of just under 20 pounds of cargo, and will be used to dump Epson's worthless C-42UX printers on unsuspecting people's front steps and back yards, in hopes that they will eventually break down and buy replacement cartridges for them."

  3. That can have scary results by Popadopolis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe it is because I am currently listening to "They're Everywhere" and am a little paranoid because of it, but that could be used to remotely place bugs or be used for illegal survalience by the FBI or intelligence agencies anywhere, couldn't it?

    1. Re:That can have scary results by Swift(void) · · Score: 1

      Wouldnt doing this require them to be reasonably close to their target, not to mention have a good idea of the layout of the building they are entering?

      I guess if you had a small enough wireless GPS reciever, you could track it via a laptop so you know where your going. That or a tiny camera.

      I cant imagine anyone being able to fly it precise enough that someone wouldn't notice if they were home.

      Whats the range of bluetooth anyway?

    2. Re:That can have scary results by Popadopolis · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My guess is it will be like the early unmaned survalience aircraft: confusing to run and hard to control at first, but after a few years they get it down pat.

    3. Re:That can have scary results by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      man, they don't need to be everywhere. it has been proven, in practice, that you can have a total police state just by using the people themselfs to spy on each other(horrible system, because you'll never know who rats on you and anybody can rat on anybody without proof anyways).

      but since you're worried about something that's already illeagal, shouldn't you be worrying about that some separate authority looks after them and locks them up if they break the law(internal investigations)? if you're worried about that are you shit worried about them breaking into your house and beating the confession out of you and sending you to death row? i mean, they don't even need a phone tap for that, just to know that you live in certain area and are white/black/chinese/hispanic or whatever fits. heck, if there's no safety locks that keep them in order they might just come down your house, rape you and afterwards just shoot you dead.

      the problem of spying your citizens isn't tech related at all, but rather a people problem(so being afraid/angry at some emerging technology because it makes it possible to spy you is stupid, you should be angry at the people who might do it and get away with it. they can spy you with your kids ffs).

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    4. Re:That can have scary results by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > My guess is it will be like the early unmaned survalience aircraft

      I'm guessing you already know this, but it uses Bluetooth, which means it can't do anything useful while under direct control. Of course, Bluetooth could be used just to feed it a set of instructions &/| a map, then tell it to go do it's thing. Surveillance usually requires almost real-time interaction, which BT could not handle, AFAIK. I don't think that was your point, but I just posted it here ferthuhelluvit.

    5. Re:That can have scary results by Popadopolis · · Score: 1

      That specific robot uses Bluetooth, however it could probably use just about anything.

  4. They're practically giving these robots away... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...but the replacement wings will cost a fortune.

    1. Re:They're practically giving these robots away... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope. The fuel will be more expensive than champaigne.

    2. Re:They're practically giving these robots away... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry. I'll just buy some cheaper third-party winglets. What's that you say? My little winglets are a violation of the DMCA? Now you're labelling me a thief, an unpatrioic, athiestical thief? Hey. Gimme a break. It's not like I share music online.

  5. College fun by Space+cowboy · · Score: 1

    When at college, I remember "radio bonk" where some enterprising student would sneak into another students room and hide a microphone, broadcasting the nightly "entertainment" over the airwaves for all to hear...

    Sounds like a small radio transmitter and could make the perps. life a lot easier :-)

    Simon.

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    1. Re:College fun by Skater · · Score: 1

      You must have had some pretty good walls. I remembering hearing the nightly entertainment in other rooms without any devices!

      --RJ

    2. Re:College fun by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > I remember "radio bonk"

      You think that's good? In my hall we had drop-cielings in the hallway, but not in the rooms. We would drill a hole above our door (wooden panel above doors instead of brick - THE FOOLS!) and run RCA cables to the "victim's" door and mount a camera inside the dropped ceiling and point it through another hole there. Granted, the picture quality was pretty crappy since it was a new camera in 1996 and it would be too obvious to drill a hole too big, but it worked well enough.

      Only problem was that it took a good half-hour to set up, so you had to be careful when you did it. Some dick might steal your camera if they know it's there.

  6. Hrmmm by JamesD_UK · · Score: 4, Funny

    Communicates by bluetooth does it? Who's going to be the first to create an automatic fly swatter to take this thing out when it flys near? Of course I wouldn't build such a device because I personaly welcome our minature flying robot overlords. Sorry, got carried away there.

    :-)
    1. Re:Hrmmm by Zorkerman · · Score: 1, Funny

      It's probably a DMCA violation to build a device that would inhibit or cause consernation to a device by overcoming its physial limitations(can't handle my awesome flyswatter!).

    2. Re:Hrmmm by skinfitz · · Score: 2

      I think Bluetooth may be a little bit of a bad choice for remote control of a flying robot. Lets hope it can't fly more than 10m...

  7. Where does the power come from? by comnenos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In the picture at the Epson site, it looks like there are power lines running off of the unit. The description makes no mention of having a battery attached to it. So yeah, maybe you have wireless control, but what's the point when you're tethered anyways?

    1. Re:Where does the power come from? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The powerlines could be for charging, but I also noticed there's no mention of flight time. Something you would think would be important if it was battery powered.

    2. Re:Where does the power come from? by Perl-Pusher · · Score: 5, Informative

      Power: 3.5 V
      Power consumption: 3 W
      Wireless module/control units: About 2.5 g
      Sensors: About 0.9 g
      Mechanism: About 5.1 g
      Total weight: About 8.9 g

      Seems to me it would have to be tethered
      2.5+5.1+0.9=8.5g
      Anyone know of a battery that can provide 3.5V @ 3W and only weighs .4 grams?

    3. Re:Where does the power come from? by r00zky · · Score: 1

      for that weight i bet it's a "betteries not included" thingo
      it would be cool if the helix were 4 photovoltaic panels, but that would increase weight too...

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    4. Re:Where does the power come from? by Smallpond · · Score: 1


      Also no mention of how noisy these are. I'm guessing that secret surveillance use is unlikely.

    5. Re:Where does the power come from? by r00zky · · Score: 1

      s/betteries/batteries/
      hou kom i can0t wirte wihout orthogarpich herrorz?

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    6. Re:Where does the power come from? by w3weasel · · Score: 1

      Any metal based battery would be way to heavy, even the newest polymer batteries would probably exceed the 2-3g possible payload.

      Try a microwave beam... dunno how much the converter chipset would weigh, but would provide unlimited flight-time

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    7. Re:Where does the power come from? by rifter · · Score: 1

      Anyone know of a battery that can provide 3.5V @ 3W and only weighs .4 grams?

      Maybe but you will never have children again if you use it ;)

    8. Re:Where does the power come from? by Rick.C · · Score: 1
      I clicked on the diagram link first and thought, "Cool! The square loops underneath are the tuned microwave power receivers!"

      But then the photo showed a wire trailing off underneath and I was like, totally bummed.

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    9. Re:Where does the power come from? by pVoid · · Score: 1
      Who knows, it might just be microwave powered. 3 Watts isn't that much power. You might have a 'ground control unit' that directs microwaves at it while it's flying.

      It might not, but it would be really nice if it did.

    10. Re:Where does the power come from? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dont see why this wouldn't work. Being a builder of Indoor model flying (rubber/electric powered) I belive that it would fly unteathered as the dual rotor would provide enough lift with very little effort and power. 3v Lithium batteries would give enough juice to make it fly and power the micro-electronics, which require very little power these days.

    11. Re:Where does the power come from? by djtack · · Score: 1

      Anyone know of a battery that can provide 3.5V @ 3W and only weighs .4 grams?

      Here's a commodity cell that's close. It weights 0.32 grams and has a capacity of 112 mW-h, which would give the robot a flight time of about 2.2 minutes. Granted, you'd need a charge pump to get the required voltage, but that isn't really big deal. And you'd need to get the impedance down to get enough current. But it's not inconceivable.

    12. Re:Where does the power come from? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Yes, he will. They'll just have long green tendrils growing out of their foreheads and eyeballs on their fingertips.

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    13. Re:Where does the power come from? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      You mean: "directs microwaves at it while it's frying".

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    14. Re:Where does the power come from? by t0qer · · Score: 1

      It could also fly over high tension power lines. Those things give off enough power to light a flourescent light tube if you stand underneath one.

    15. Re:Where does the power come from? by instarx · · Score: 1

      One way to power to them would be by laser. A small photovoltaic cell on the robot could charge a capacitor or battery when hit by a laser beam. It should be easy to do with radar-guided lasers. This would make them very good for reconnaisance purposes. When the juice is running low they move to a location where they would have a line-of-sight link with the charging laser. Once charged they would then move back to surveil caves, ravines, structures and other dangerous areas. By using several of them at the same time, constant surveillance could be maintained - while a few are in the active zone, several more are at altitude getting charged. They could even be charged when they are inside buildings by moving to a window for a quick power top-up.

    16. Re:Where does the power come from? by pVoid · · Score: 1

      Wow did that ever give me the freakiest image of little robots hovering over the power system. Like sparrows...

    17. Re:Where does the power come from? by 1HandClapping · · Score: 1

      NASA has already successfully tested laser powered flight.

  8. Obligatory comment with a twist by Kulaid982 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Can you imagine a Beowulf swarm of these? (/ducks)

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  9. Doubletake? by buzzsport · · Score: 1

    Did anyone look at this quickly and think it looks alot like tinkertoys?

  10. Re:Obligatory... by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    You fail it! You must include the whole quote to receive credit for your effort. Tell us how you will get other humans to work for them and tell us which mines we will toil in.

    Sigh...no one cares about quality any more...

  11. picture of a rendering of the thing... by bigpat · · Score: 0, Redundant

    The linked picture is of a rendering not the actual device. Is this thing vapor ware?

    1. Re:picture of a rendering of the thing... by GreyPoopon · · Score: 1
      The linked picture is of a rendering not the actual device. Is this thing vapor ware?

      Read the article. They have a picture of the real thing in somebody's hand there. Also, did anybody notice how suspiciously like one of Leonardo Divinci's drawings this thing is?

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    2. Re:picture of a rendering of the thing... by MySt1k · · Score: 1

      you should have watched the 2 links ....

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    3. Re:picture of a rendering of the thing... by randyest · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, it's real. The link to epson's site shows a photo of an actual device. The linked photo is for chekcing out the various parts.

      So, my questions: where can I buy one and how much?

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    4. Re:picture of a rendering of the thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " Is this thing vapor ware"

      Only if you fly it around in women's showers...

    5. Re:picture of a rendering of the thing... by rgraham · · Score: 2, Interesting
      So, my questions: where can I buy one and how much?

      Sadly, if you look at the very bottom of the page:

      *Please note that this product is a prototype. There are no plans to market it as a commercial product.

      I recently broke down and order one of these. It's not quite as small but should be a lot of fun if I can figure out how to fly it.
    6. Re:picture of a rendering of the thing... by Spoticus · · Score: 1

      >did anybody notice how suspiciously like one of Leonardo Divinci's drawings this thing is?

      No, but did I notice that the linked picture looks like it was made with MS paint with those cheezy ass voice balloons.
      You'd think with all the $$ Epson charges for ink that they'd be able to afford a copy of Photoshop or something ;-)

  12. Only the Japanese... by GoofyBoy · · Score: 1

    ... would come up with the word "micromechantronics".

    Micro-mechan-tronics. Like something out of anime.

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    1. Re:Only the Japanese... by RowdyReptile · · Score: 1

      ... would come up with the word "micromechantronics".

      Turns out "micro machines" was taken. ;)

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  13. Epson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, but does it Print?

    1. Re:Epson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, but neither do Epson printers normally

    2. Re:Epson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Yeah, but does it Print?"

      Only if you have the commercial version of CUPS, though there might be a driver in Mandrake Cooker.

    3. Re:Epson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, but it does jam excessive amounts of paper

  14. Uh...Flying Cars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    C'mon, now.... I was promised flying cars.

  15. Amazing image ... not. by symbolic · · Score: 1


    It's interesting how a company so well-founded in image-related technologies can only manage something that looks like it was cobbled together by a secretary.

    1. Re:Amazing image ... not. by Txiasaeia · · Score: 1

      I'm a secretary you insensitive clod!

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  16. One catch... by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 1, Funny

    The robot is only $100 but replacement ink cartridges for it cost $50 each.

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    1. Re:One catch... by spektr · · Score: 4, Funny

      The robot is only $100 but replacement ink cartridges for it cost $50 each.

      Until a hacker developes a firmware that lets it suck blood for fuel.

    2. Re:One catch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Until a hacker developes a firmware that lets it suck blood for fuel.

      Eep! Halfway there...

  17. Anyone read "Prey" by Popadopolis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Crichton book, about swarms of nanobot robots. Is this our future, or just an interresting possible outcome?

    1. Re:Anyone read "Prey" by Sabalon · · Score: 1

      Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson dealt with this too...dust everywhere from nanobots.

      For these, I'd be worried some mosquito would try to mate with it.

    2. Re:Anyone read "Prey" by The+boojum · · Score: 1

      Freeman Dyson, of the Dyson Sphere fame, wrote an interesting critique of that book and its physics. Most importantly, he estimates that the nanobots as described in that book would have a speed of about 0.1 inches per second while flying through the air. There are also energy consumption issues.

    3. Re:Anyone read "Prey" by Fjord · · Score: 1

      only to create Mechasquito!

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  18. Mobile Phone Toy! by JimPooley · · Score: 1

    So when are they going to start selling them to people who want ever more spurious gadgets for their mobile phones?

    You can already get toy cars you control from your phone using Bluetooth, I'm sure you could also sell toy helicopters. You can just see people flying these things around the office!

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  19. Note the box underneath by nizo · · Score: 1

    The "sensor units" are actually a wireless camera, useful when the unit will be flight tested in the women's shower at the local gym.

  20. Payload by John+Courtland · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So what kind of payload can these things carry? I bet if they beefed up the drive assembly even only slightly, it could carry enough VX poison to kill a specific target.

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    1. Re:Payload by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or a .50 cal slug through your fat fucking face?

  21. micromechatronics? by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 5, Funny

    What the hell? Where did they get a name like that?

    "Our use of micromechatronics will help us succeed in our quest", stated project lead Optimus Prime. "We will defeat the decepticons and obtain all minicons", he then went on to say. Megatron was unavailable for comment.

    1. Re:micromechatronics? by HermanZA · · Score: 1

      Micro Me chat ronics? Sounds like something from Austin Powers...

    2. Re:micromechatronics? by Anonymous+Cow+herd · · Score: 1

      Minicons bah... everyone knows it's all about the energon cubes :-P

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    3. Re:micromechatronics? by istartedi · · Score: 1

      After Bill Gates "bought out" Compuhyperglobalmeganet, he sold the IP off in pieces.

      es
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    4. Re:micromechatronics? by lommer · · Score: 1

      Its actually not just techno-blither. Mechatronics actually refers to a specific engineering disipline which walks the the fine (or not so fine sometimes) line between mechanical and electrical engineering. We have had this option at my university (UBC) for several years now (it used to go by a different name though). I must say though, as an engineering student myself I have a lot of respect for the guys who take this program, as it is five years of an absolutely gruelling courseload.

  22. Levitation? by I+don't+want+to+spen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I like the phrase ...causes levitation by use of contra-rotating propellers.... Somehow, helicopters levitating sounds far more dramatic than simply flying. I guess the advantage of these things is that when the power runs out, they can autorotate to the ground. It looks a little like one of those Orgasmatron head massagers though ...

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    1. Re:Levitation? by thelexx · · Score: 1

      Which reminds me of a saying about choppers: "Helicopters don't fly. They are so ugly the earth itself repels them." Or something to that effect!

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  23. Rip-off by spektr · · Score: 1, Interesting

    This is obviously a rip-off from Leonardo da Vinci.

  24. What a wimp... by UnAmericanPunk · · Score: 3, Funny

    That little thing would totally get it's ass kicked on battlebots...

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    1. Re:What a wimp... by DrEldarion · · Score: 1

      Nah, all it has to do is fly around until the competing robots try desperately to catch it and end up falling in a pit or something. They could even tease the other robots by flying down low until they come over, then springing back up. Ha! Fooled you!

    2. Re:What a wimp... by Phattypants · · Score: 0

      Just wait 'til they strap tiny cluster bombs and lasers to them...

    3. Re:What a wimp... by adrianbaugh · · Score: 1

      On a real battlefield, however, something like this could carry a laser capable of blinding hostile infantry and would be small enough to be a complete bitch to target.

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    4. Re:What a wimp... by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 1

      they issue shotguns in the military, too, you know.

  25. I think... by Bluesman · · Score: 1

    ...I'm going to call him Jet-Jaguar.

    As far as I'm concerned, he's got the right-of-way.

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  26. a million points of light recording our every move by citizen6350 · · Score: 1

    does this sound like a major smart dust application to anyone else out there?

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  27. Re: Capacitor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Could be using a high-storage capacitor, but most likely I'll agree it's tethered. The specs make mention of power consumption yet never mentioning power source. I think that info is ommitted on purpose.

  28. Where is the power source? by Avian+visitor · · Score: 1

    The article is full of buzzwords (anybody care to explain what is a ultrasonic motor in this context?) and fails to mention the biggest problem with tiny robots: the power source.

    I can't find anything that resembles a battery on the schematic. There is a small light blue blob on the bottom of the prototype on the photograph though. But at 3 watts of consumption I don't believe it can fly for very long.

    On the other hand, you can see a thin wire going from the prototype, behind the fingers and out of the picture. Perhaps Epson forgot to mention, that their prototype must be wired to a nuclear power plant to provide power for the power-saving bluetooth module...

    1. Re:Where is the power source? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't find anything that resembles a battery on the schematic.

      It is the Seiko Epson company, so you could imagine a watch battery.

  29. Terrorist Device? by skatedog · · Score: 1

    I hate that my first thought was what destructive use this may be used for (bioterror delivery, etc..)...I suppose all of this media bombardment of Iraq...and given the Bush-era we live in here in the USA....anyway that was my first thought, sadly.
    I think Robotics is just such a cool new frontier...I wonder if surveillance in a hospital setting or nursing home might be a possible positive use...

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    1. Re:Terrorist Device? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If that's gonna be its use, then why aren't terrorists using current off the shelf hobby RC planes and copters?? come on......

    2. Re:Terrorist Device? by 3Suns · · Score: 1

      Um, it communicates via bluetooth. A potential terrorist would have to be within 30 ft flying it around for it to work. Sure you could make it larger and carry longer-range communications, but at some point you have to realize there's lots of easier ways for bioterror delivery. Like vending machines.

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  30. Re: Not Nano by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This thing is far from qualifying as "nano technology". It's small but not nano-small.

  31. Tiny flyers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A big problem with all of the tiny flying devices is that you really can't use them outside. The problem is the wind. Even an imperceptible breeze can blow these things off course, making them incredibly painful to control. The Piccolo weighs in at about 250 grams or so and it's damn near impossible to control outside.

    Plus it sounds like this Epson thing is tethered because there ain't no power source on it.

    What was that paper about the CIA developing a dragonfly? It worked but they couldn't use it outside because it was too light.

    1. Re:Tiny flyers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It worked but they couldn't use it outside because it was too light.
      Or so they say!
    2. Re:Tiny flyers by teamhasnoi · · Score: 1
      If you ever read 50's-60's Scifi for boys (I know, small subset) there is a book called Danny Dunn and the Invisible Boy which talks about a small robotic dragonfly (actual size and look, as well) that uses bursts of air to fly, has video and sound output to a fully immersive virtual reality headset back at the base station, and can grab and move small objects.

      I can't find it on my shelf right now, but the Professor who invented it destroyed it because of the *privacy implications*, before the military took it for 'national security' reasons.

      Great book, and strangely pre-cognitive. Of course, it was used to catch a cheater on a spelling test, rather than spy on chicks in the locker room, so you know the timeframe in which it was written.

      I'm half expecting to find 'Danny Dunn and the Boy Who Found The National Echelon Terrorist Database and Used Nanobots to Disable John Ashcroft's Wet Dream for Spying on the American Public' at my next flea market.

    3. Re:Tiny flyers by Wraithlyn · · Score: 1

      "A big problem with all of the tiny flying devices is that you really can't use them outside. The problem is the wind."

      Well, I must respectfully disagree; I don't think it's "near impossible", merely an unsolved problem at this point. Trillions of lightweight insects seem to make do pretty well, so there should be no fundamental obstacle from a basic physics standpoint.

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    4. Re:Tiny flyers by Pvt_Waldo · · Score: 1

      True I suppose. But then how the heck do real dragonflies and real butterflies manage?

    5. Re:Tiny flyers by Razor+Blades+are+Not · · Score: 1

      By having highly articulated wings, rather than fixed-wing or rotors.

      The wings on real insects move in many more angles than regular rotors can (or, by definition, fixed wing aircraft). This lets them react to changes in micro gusts far faster and without needing to change the attitude of the insect body.

    6. Re:Tiny flyers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I said the Piccolo is near impossible to fly. I didn't say the problem is unsolvable. :)

    7. Re:Tiny flyers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plus their tiny little brains are doing a lot of calculations for trajectory.

      In other words: They can see and feel where they are going.

      I guess eventually we'll be able to put in powerful enough computers to do the same.

    8. Re:Tiny flyers by Wraithlyn · · Score: 1

      You said that with ALL lightweight flying devices, you really CAN'T use them outside.

      That's pretty inclusive and negative. :) I submit that there already ARE lightweight flying "devices" in abundance... just not mechanical ones. :)

      Perhaps I am being generous in my treatment of the word "device".. but aren't organisms essentially devices, "designed" by evolution? Or God, depending on your beliefs :)

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  32. DOD / Homeland Security by ChadU · · Score: 1
    John Ashcroft has probably ordered the first batch of these already. Swarms of them may just be spewing from NORAD as we speak.

    "Get them my pretties. Get them."

    Some other applications:
    1.Could we see these deployed with hypoderdmic needles and used in covert operations?
    2.How about used as a canary in a mineshaft to test for nerve agents?

    Why must the first thing that springs to mind with innovations like this be militartistic?

    1. Re:DOD / Homeland Security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only people thinking about military applications for this little spritz of a device are people like you...

      You have got some seriously screwed up views of the world. Try using your brain sometimes, take a logic class, maybe philosophy.. you've been running on raw kneejerk emotions for so long you've forgotten how to be reasonable.

  33. Anyone read the article? by UberNerd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    These aren't nano-anything.

    1. Re:Anyone read the article? by Popadopolis · · Score: 1

      My point is that we have tiny flying robots, closer to the premise of the book than ever before.

    2. Re:Anyone read the article? by hoggoth · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, the real danger is not the flying-nano-bots of the future, it is the flying-centi-bots that are here now! There's one at my window!

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  34. ALL IT NEEDS IS TENTACLES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    aughalgahgluagu

  35. Ballet Theatre? by jmkaza · · Score: 1

    Using these robots, Epson also realized the world's smallest full-blown robot ballet theater.

    Come on, is that really the best demo application they could come up with. How about a battle simulation. Or at least a Cirue de Soleil type thing. This is definetly a move by Epson to erode the geek badge of pride.

    1. Re:Ballet Theatre? by grumling · · Score: 1
      I really enjoyed the "*1,3,4,5: According to Epson's research." footnote. Made my day to know that some fact checker somewhere thought it important to check into the size rankings of full-blown robot ballet theaters. Think of how long that took!

      This also means there may be, even now, some company (Casio, perhaps) working on an even smaller full-blown robot ballet theater.

      Where's the government grant for the US built full-blown robot ballet theater?

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  36. One step closer by Popadopolis · · Score: 1

    I think this brings us one step closer to bio-nano robotics. If people support microrobotics and nanotech, we can have amazing things.

  37. Re: Not at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Da Vinci's design uses a 'screw' type blade. It's nothing like it. You might as well compare it to a propeller beanie while you're at it.

  38. Da Vinci by DavidNWelton · · Score: 1

    Tinkertoys?

    I think it looks surprisingly like Da Vinci's helicopter type drawing:

    http://www.emmerling.com/helicopter.jpg

    What a brilliant inventor...

  39. Spies by caldroun · · Score: 1

    They are not planning on producing them.. but I bet there are a bunch of them flying around over at HP. (looking in the windows)

    I can see an Epson exec saying... 'I wish I was a fly on the wall...'

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    1. Re:Spies by Basehart · · Score: 1

      There's a better way to conduct industial espionage than looking in windows, instead just get inside Windows.

  40. you know... by FinestLittleSpace · · Score: 0

    ...it's all well and good that they can make tiny robots etc etc, but can they PLEASE make a printer that doesn't...

    a) print 10 full colour pages and run out of ink
    b) flash all sorts of error lights when it feels like it despite there being no problem
    c) report paper jams constantly ....then i'll be happy for them to make flying pigs for me....

  41. Use #5478.. by wviperw · · Score: 1, Funny

    RIAA recently bought one of these robots for every Kazaa filesharer in existence. Within days millions of 12 year old girls will be found and "dealt with" by these modded beasts.

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    1. Re:Use #5478.. by AchmedHabib · · Score: 1

      You have been watching too many japanese cartoons. :)

    2. Re:Use #5478.. by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      Can i take this moment to infer that the RIAA rapes 12 year-old japanese girls who download music from Kazaa aided by mini helicopters - we must think of the childeren!

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  42. Re: Capacitor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While you can get high power density in a capacitor, you have to be near your power source because as soon as you disconnect even a very large capacitor, you lose charge quickly. Even a very large capacitor that could be used for a trick electric car would have to be used within minutes of charging to be useful.

  43. www.i-love-epson.co.jp by hey · · Score: 0, Redundant

    One whacky site...
    http://www.i-love-epson.co.jp

  44. Mistake. by cgranade · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    It weighs a little over 10g...
    It doesn't weigh anything in grams... that's its mass. Its weight is in Newtons or pounds.

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    1. Re:Mistake. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not. It's quite common to say "weight" when we speak of an objects mass.

      What do you say, "How much do you weigh?" or "What is your mass?"

    2. Re:Mistake. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, how has your social life been recently Mr. Definition Boy?

  45. Flying microrobots by burgburgburg · · Score: 1

    And when the swarms of flying microrobots converge on the last outpost of humanity, their edged weapons gleaming in the dying sunlight, will we at least then think to ask "Is creating flying microrobots really such a good idea?".

    1. Re:Flying microrobots by El · · Score: 1

      They're not self-replicating Von Neuman machines... yet!

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  46. no, no, no by theMerovingian · · Score: 0
    We could use it to spy on the French!

    You wouldn't be able to see anything but white flags in your spy photos.

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  47. NO PLEASE, NOT HIM ! by Yoda+Doll · · Score: 0

    Not again !

  48. Re:The Queen and I by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow. That was one of the funniest trolls I've ever seen. MOD PARENT UP!!

  49. Bluetooth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ok, I R'dTFA, and I don't see Bluetooth mentioned anywhere. Care to explain?

    1. Re:Bluetooth? by hesiod · · Score: 1

      RT(other)FA :) The second link (This one) does mention Bluetooth.

  50. Re:AOL News has more pictures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your troll would work better if jpg wasn't titled "penisfish" ...

  51. Just what we need. by Guano_Jim · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's only a matter of time before someone puts a wee little bomb on one of these and kills someone with it. Or at least puts an eye out.

    Then it's only a matter of time before someone makes a swarm of them with wee little bombs and turns them loose on a bigger target.

    Then it's only a matter of time before someone makes a counterswarm of them.

    Then slashdotters will have an unlimited number of slightly charred tiny flying robot parts to experiment with.

  52. I for one, by Rinikusu · · Score: 1

    Welcome our new micronized mechanical...
    *SWAT*
    Damn bugs.. oh erm.. well.. nevermind...

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  53. But... by H8X55 · · Score: 1

    There are two questions i'm sure everyone is asking...

    Does it print color and offer Linux support?

  54. Troll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're now falsely accusing links of being penisfish?

    Which one is it? Goatse or penisfish?

    1. Re:Troll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How would you classify this?

    2. Re:Troll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ???

  55. Prey by MisterFancypants · · Score: 0, Redundant
    Reminds me of that Crichton Book, "Prey".

    And I, for one, welcome our new nanobot masters?

  56. The Moon, The Moon! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Soon power will be free everywhere! Even for tiny, helicopters!

  57. How fast? by ajnlth · · Score: 1

    It's probably really fast since an ultrasonic motor should be alot faster than a supersonic motor, and to think we have been complaining about the Concorde..

  58. Battery advances for microflight by tezzer · · Score: 1
    General Specifications
    1. Power: 3.5 V
    2. Power consumption: 3 W
    Total weight: About 8.9 g

    Ok, add the .7 to 2 ounces the battery pack would take and this thing isn't going too far without it s tether. Check out This article for some neat info on lightweight batteries on the horizon.

    check out RC Microflight for projects that currently fly under their own (on-board) power.

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    1. Re:Battery advances for microflight by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 1

      Hell, it's so light, shouldn't a solar cell be able to manage it?

    2. Re:Battery advances for microflight by tezzer · · Score: 1

      Not if it takes 3.5 volts and draws 3 watts. A light weight solar cell produces milliamps at around 1 volt. For comparison, I found this 3-watt solar array - it looks like it's about the size of a ping pong table.

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    3. Re:Battery advances for microflight by gpinzone · · Score: 1

      Solar cell? Hell, I bet you could power it like a smart card, through induction.

    4. Re:Battery advances for microflight by braindigitalis · · Score: 1

      ive seen watches that are powered by induction like this, but is there enough wattage in induction for what the specs say? its a pretty low power method isnt it?

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  59. For when it gets slashdotted... (Article & spe by Embedded+Geek · · Score: 0

    Epson Develops World's Smallest Flying Microrobot

    -TOKYO, Japan, November 17 -

    Seiko Epson Corporation ("Epson") has developed the FR ("Micro Flying Robot"), the world's smallest*1 flying prototype microrobot. Epson developed the FR to demonstrate the micromechatronics technology that it has cultivated in-house over the years and to explore the possibilities for microrobots and the development of component technology applications. The company will display its latest offering at the 2003 International Robot Exhibition, which will be held at Tokyo Big Sight on November 19 - 22, 2003.

    Based on its micromechatronics technology, which is one of the company's core technologies, Epson has developed and marketed a family of microrobots known as the EMRoS series*2, beginning with Monsieur, which was put on sale in 1993 and is listed in the Guinness Book of Records as the world's smallest microrobot. In April of this year Epson developed Monsieur II-P, a prototype microrobot that operates on an ultra-thin, ultrasonic motor and a power-saving Bluetooth module that allows multiple units to be remote-controlled simultaneously. Using these robots, Epson also realized the world's smallest*3 full-blown robot ballet theater. In this way, Epson has played a pioneering role in research and development relating to microrobots and component technology applications.

    The FR, which will be shown at the exhibition, causes levitation by use of contra-rotating propellers powered by an ultra-thin, ultrasonic motor with the world's highest*4 power-weight ratio and can be balanced in mid-air by means of the world's first*5 stabilizing mechanism using a linear actuator. Furthermore, the essence of micromechatronics has been brought together in high-density mounting technology to minimize the size and weight of the circuitry's control unit.

    By developing the FR, Epson has demonstrated the possibility of expanding the activity range of microrobots from two-dimensional space (the ground) to three-dimensional space (the air). Epson intends to use the occasion provided by the exhibition to feel out the reactions of visitors, discover and test problems related to the functional use of space by microrobots, and thus to further concentrate its efforts on advancing its original micromechatronics technology and cultivating applications to meet future needs.

    *1,3,4,5: According to Epson's research.
    *2: EMRoS stands for Epson Micro Robot System. The series consists of Monsieur (1 cm3 in volume; listed in the Guinness Book of Records; 1993); Nino (0.5 cm3, 1994); Ricordo (1 cm3; equipped with a recording and playback function; 1995); and Rubie (1 cm3; equipped with a capricious wandering function; 1995). All are autonomous travelling robots that chase a light source. Sales of the EMRoS series have been discontinued.

    Please see the attachment for an overview of the FR.

    About Epson
    The Epson Group increases its corporate value through its innovative and creative culture. Dedicated to providing its customers with digital image innovation, its main product lines comprise information-related equipment such as printers and projectors, electronic devices including displays, semiconductors and quartz devices, and precision products such as watches. Epson products are known throughout the world for their superior quality, functionality, compactness and energy efficiency.
    The Epson Group is a network of 73,797 employees in 114 companies around the world, and is proud of its ongoing contributions to the global environment and to the communities in which it is located. Led by the Japan-based Seiko Epson Corp., which is listed on the First Section of the Tokyo Stock Exchange, the Group had consolidated sales of 1,322 billion yen in fiscal 2002.


    Seiko Epson Corp.
    Corporate Communications,
    +81-266-58-1705 or +81-3-3340-2637
    E-mail
    http://www.epson.co.jp/e/

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  60. looks like a.... by s33l3t · · Score: 0

    hat fan... when they get to hot from being out side testing they can clip it to their hat for hours of cooling. woot!

  61. How long... by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 1

    The Epson site says there are no plans to market it. Now that we know it can be done, how long till someone re-creates it and puts up a site showing how to build one?

  62. Power ? by rcastro0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe they won't need much in terms of batteries.

    Maybe they can have photocells, and convert the energy they need from natural or artificial light sources. So, at night we could see a bunch of those thingies hitting their heads on street lamps.

    Maybe they can fly down for a recharge every once in a while, landing on a bigger robot's back and sucking some electricity.

    And maybe, if all else fails, we can leave them energized by a thin wire, hanging from the tip of a long rod. They won't get far, but if you leave the rod close to the water you may be able to fool and electrically stun an obtuse trout, which you will then take home for dinner.

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    1. Re:Power ? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      860 mA at 3.5V isn't exactly trivial, especially if flight times are to be more than a few seconds.

      Yes, yes, your joking (just what I need, electronic moths in my house), but the reality is dissappointing:

      For those thinking solar/ambient light would be great, I'll spot you you 15% efficiency and 1200W/m^^2 full sunlight. You'll need 3W of continuous power. So as long as you can get a non-obscured, perpendicular line of site to the sun, you'll need about 1/1200/0.15*3=167sq cm or a 16.5cm diameter round solar panel which can track the sun. I mention a round panel, because the current footprint is only 13cm.

      A goo dway to think of it is using the most prolific solar powered objects on the earth with billions of year of development: plants. They run wonderfully on solar power, but they don't move so fast. ;-)

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  63. Only a prototype? by Embedded+Geek · · Score: 1
    *Please note that this product is a prototype. There are no plans to market it as a commercial product.

    Damn. I was hoping to add one to my list for Santa/Thinkgeek

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  64. Vectron Ultralite by jeffmock · · Score: 1

    For $40 you can get one of these flying saucers. It uses IR instead of Bluetooth, but it's good fun. I bought one this weekend for, ahem, my friend's kids, but I've been testing it... jeff

  65. obvious response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    may be able to fool and electrically stun an obtuse trout

    "obtuse trout"? is that what you catch when you go angling?

    1. Re:obvious response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      may be able to fool and electrically stun an obtuse trout

      "obtuse trout"? is that what you catch when you go angling?

      Foreget it, the moderators are blockheads.

  66. *Seiko* Epson? (OT) by Embedded+Geek · · Score: 1
    I was suprised to discover that they were the same company. At first, I thought it was a recent acquisition overshadowed by HP/Compaq, but when I dug into their history I found that the merger occurred back in 1985! I had always simply assumed that Epson was a wholey owned American company.

    Any slashdotters out there work for S-E? I'm curious if the corporate culture is more Japanese or American. Just wondering.

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  67. Dan Brown's books by SerialHistorian · · Score: 1

    Dan Brown recently published a book that featured a robot the size of a mosquito with a camera on it... when we've got that, *then* I'll be excited!

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  68. So let me guess... by loupgarou21 · · Score: 1

    You get a handfull of bored engineers, they make a small, remote controlled flying thing, an upper level manager catches them playing with it so they say "We're working of a project that will showcase all of our micro-technology." PRESS RELEASE!

  69. .com Bubble Insanity? by chadjg · · Score: 1

    Maybe I'm going nuts, but this is really cool and I don't like it.

    I like to show off and it looks like Epson likes to show off. Who doesn't? And any advance in technology or science is to be respected. Some of this stuff should bring out pure geek joy.

    I just can't get the feeling out of my head that this crap belonged in the late 90s. Is our economy doing so well that companies can spare time and talent to show off, to make the share holders and others think they are so cool that they don't have to devote everything to killing their competitors and making their stuff better?

    There was a lot of cool stuff produced in the bubble that didn't have any direct profit motive. Any self respecting geek would think this is the greatest thing. A lot of suffering and broken budgets came out of the bubble's excesses, and I'm not sure where the border between cool and hubris is to be found.

    Finally, I must say "good going guys, I hope you are around next year."

    Depressing, or am I an idiot?

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  70. Re:Ni-MH battery? by Bastian · · Score: 3, Informative

    I know micro RC planes often use tiny NiMH batteries. Some of the planes weigh in as light as seven grams, and it's not uncommon for the battery to give at least 10 minutes of flying time.

  71. Counter rotating blades. Not flying insect motion. by zymano · · Score: 1

    I skimmed over the article but I didn't see an actual photo so they may not have built this microcopter but the counterrotating blades are not as efficient like insect flight. Flapping wings use vortices for lift and are very efficient.

    If anybody remembers the great TLC channel show 'Connections' will connect the dots here and see that SEIKO is a watch company and their microcopter looks a bit like a watch. Interesting. But more of a novelty .

  72. Printer company? by bigjnsa500 · · Score: 1

    What does this have to do with them making better printers?

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  73. Re:Ni-MH battery? by mangu · · Score: 1

    But those are fixed-wing planes, not helicopters. Helicopters need a lot more power than planes. In the limit, fixed-wing planes can consume zero power, i.e. they can glide. AFAIK, the smallest powered planes weigh about five grams, and are powered by twisted rubber bands. The wings are made by pouring nitrocellulose enamel over water and letting the solvent evaporate. To glue that skin over the balsa wood frame, you dip the frame in the water under the skin and drag it up *very* carefully.

  74. Floating object? by strapon · · Score: 0

    What did Spock find in the Toilet?

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  75. Bluetooth by natefanaro · · Score: 1

    Since it uses bluetooth can all of the leet haxor kidz use their cell phones and bluejack it?

  76. Epson-CD/DVD printing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slightly OT, but if you remember this story, and my suggestion? Well it looks like Epson has a solution at varous price point (and yes I noted the reply :).

    Also if purchasing an Epson printer? Go for the middle of the road, and KEEP IT CLEAN. Ink and paper dust make a nasty mess, and can eventually cause misfeeds. Also make certain nothing has fallen into the paper path.

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  77. How about... by blueberry(4*atan(1)) · · Score: 1
    micro-MANGA-tronics?

    HA!

  78. robots in 3D by millette · · Score: 1

    ... because robots in 2 dimensions are so much easier to deal with :)

  79. OMG - I READ that book! by BLKMGK · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I seem to recall that it had some sort of immersive technology and that he crashed one and could feel it burning his hands or somesuch when it was destroyed? WOW, been a looooong time since I read that and now that you've mentioned it I remember it well although not the title or character names. Scary!

    But also kind of cool - if an immersive headset were built for even a largish kind of flying toy I'd think it would be pretty cool! The micro helicopter review linked\mentioned above made for a good read and is certainly much closer to consumer reality...

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  80. Does noone on /. have any imagination? by NoNeeeed · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is a research robot. It is for *experimenting*. Saying "what's the point" just because it is tethered is just lacking in imagination.

    Epson have not created this so they can test out battery technology, but to experiment with the problems of robots that operate in three dimensions. This is about solving the problems of navigation and control, not power supply, that's a job for Duracell.

    Not everything has to have an immediate use, commercial or otherwise, to be worthy of existance. To get from here to there, you have to got to all the places in between.

    Have we become a population with such a short attention span that we can no longer appreciate the value of long-term research? Far too much research is being scuppered these days because people keep asking "but what's the use of it", and "can we make a profit". Can't we just appreciate it for it's coolness and leave them too it.

    Perhaps I'm a pessimist, but I think that if this attitude continues to grow, we will ultimatly be screwed by a lack of blue-sky research.

    Paul

    1. Re:Does noone on /. have any imagination? by daves · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Epson have not created this so they can test out battery technology, but to experiment with the problems of robots that operate in three dimensions

      One of the biggest problems in controlling a 10g flying robot with a tether, is the frigging tether.

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    2. Re:Does noone on /. have any imagination? by mdielmann · · Score: 1

      I thought what you were saying was interesting, but you lost me somewhere after the second paragraph...

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    3. Re:Does noone on /. have any imagination? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you lost me somewhere after the second paragraph

      Mod this up as funny. You mean, you couldn't hold your attention on something for more than two paragraphs? That seems to be the problem all right.

    4. Re:Does noone on /. have any imagination? by Suidae · · Score: 1

      Have we become a population with such a short attention span that we can no longer appreciate the value of long-term research?

      Huh? Sorry, what was that you were talking about?

    5. Re:Does noone on /. have any imagination? by Vellmont · · Score: 1


      This is a research robot. It is for *experimenting*. Saying "what's the point" just because it is tethered is just lacking in imagination.


      The article seems to imply this will lead to a commercial product, and is not simply pure experiment. The article also doesn't mention that the robot is tethered by a power cable, though that's certainly the case. Not mentioning the power tether is a major ommision.


      Epson have not created this so they can test out battery technology, but to experiment with the problems of robots that operate in three dimensions. This is about solving the problems of navigation and control, not power supply, that's a job for Duracell.

      On the contrary the weight of the power source is a MAJOR part of building a flying machine. It's not just a problem to be simply sloughed off to duracell. This one one of the big problems the Wright brothers had, simply that you had to make an engine that had the proper power/weight ratio. The lack of an onboard power source means they're only at the stage of experimenting with controlling the beast (and in isolation from the added weight of a power source). That's all cool, but it's an important point that the article misses.

      You may be right in your assessment of many projects being cancelled for lack of immediate application. But I think the problem is the article doesn't empasize the fact that this vehicle is still just basic research, and not an error in the perceptions of the poster(s).

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    6. Re:Does noone on /. have any imagination? by SubtleNuance · · Score: 1

      Have we become a population with such a short attention span that we can no longer appreciate the value of long-term research? Far too much research is being scuppered these days because people keep asking "but what's the use of it", and "can we make a profit". Can't we just appreciate it for it's coolness and leave them too it.

      You are ABSOLUTELY WRONG! I grew up in the Internet/VideoGame age, i have no problems at all when I like to keep things going the way I want when.. - I am thinking, Does anyone want pizza?

    7. Re:Does noone on /. have any imagination? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe that was the point of his joke.

    8. Re:Does noone on /. have any imagination? by Grizzlysmit · · Score: 1
      Not everything has to have an immediate use, commercial or otherwise, to be worthy of existance. To get from here to there, you have to got to all the places in between.

      Have we become a population with such a short attention span that we can no longer appreciate the value of long-term research? Far too much research is being scuppered these days because people keep asking "but what's the use of it", and "can we make a profit". Can't we just appreciate it for it's coolness and leave them too it.

      Perhaps I'm a pessimist, but I think that if this attitude continues to grow, we will ultimatly be screwed by a lack of blue-sky research.

      So true, And I have to ask this, why are there so many ludites on Slashdot??, last I heard our motto was "News for Nerds. Stuff that matters." (as in stuff that matters to geeks/nerds, not pimple brained jocks or what not), so where does welcome ludites & pea brains come into this??

      This is supposed to be a geek web site, founded by geeks for geeks of the geeks, where do all these none geek wanna be's get of coming here trying to take the show over??, could all of you ludites and techaphobes just get lost.

      Let make it simple, if new technology/science frightens you, your a techniphobe and you do not belong here!!, if you beleive research has to produce an application right now up front, to be worth anything then you are a ludite, and not a geek, and you do not belong here!!.

      So push off would you.

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    9. Re:Does noone on /. have any imagination? by instarx · · Score: 1

      I don't think they're luddites, particularly. They like technology, its more that they are just lazy. It is far easier to poke holes in an idea and point out why it won't work than it is to think of a way to make it better or to come up with creative extensions of the idea. I think there is also a lot of thinking along the lines of: "I'll look really smart if I show why this ideas is no good".

      Another trend I see on /. is taking one miniscule part of an otherwise informative post, focusing on that one part and ignoring the creativity or insight that was in the rest of it. A perfect example was the post saying this idea was no good because it was tethered - how ridiculous!

      I just try to ignore these kinds of posts as background noise.

  81. Yet! by burgburgburg · · Score: 1

    As the swarms of flying, self-replicating, microrobots converge on the last outpost of humanity, their edged weapons gleaming in the dying sunlight, will we at least then think to ask "Was creating flying microrobots really such a good idea? And should we really have trusted that they wouldn't figure out how to self-replicate?".

  82. "Ultrasonic" Motor? by ThosLives · · Score: 1
    Does anyone know what they mean by "ultrasonic motor"? As far as I know, nobody's ever been able to make a motor work off the principles of acoustic wave propagation. Do they simply mean that the motor works at high RPM (over 20kHz)? That's hardly what I think of when I think of "ultrasonic". Call me a stickler for detail, but you should only be allowed to call things "sonic" when they are acoustic waves. After all, visible light is at "ultrasonic" frequencies, too!

    If high RPM is the case, I imagine that the device would generate ultrasonic acoustic waves. Which would be kind of amusing to see all kinds of canine lifeforms go nuts trying to chase these things...

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  83. What's available now - by 4ginandtonics · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here's what you can get in the way of small flying machines today:

    Ikarus Piccolo mini rc helicopter

    280 grams (.6 lb), about 50cm long (20 in)

    Some videos at dreamhobbies.com

    Good fun.

    1. Re:What's available now - by 4ginandtonics · · Score: 1
  84. Dr. Asimov would be so excited to hear about this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After all...

    "What is a robot, that thou art mindful of it?" ;)

  85. Stylus warriors by sharkey · · Score: 0, Redundant

    The wars of the future will not be fought on the battlefield or at sea.
    They will be fought in space, or possibly on top of a very tall
    mountain. In either case, most of the actual fighting will be done by
    small robots. And as you go forth today remember always your duty is
    clear: To build and maintain those robots. Thank you.

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  86. Ultrasonics, maybe? by ishmalius · · Score: 1

    It says "ultrasonic motor". Maybe the power source -is- ultrasonics; meaning it is passively powered by ultrasonic waves from a nearby transponder.

  87. What happens in a strong gust of wind? by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 1

    Blown far off course, out of bluetooth range... bam! Hits a pedestrian and takes an eye out. Don't believe m? Ask your momma!

    1. Re:What happens in a strong gust of wind? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what auto collision avoidance is for... and onboard navigation systems. Well, when they miniturize those sort of things so they'd be able to integrate on a platform like a micro robot system.

  88. A terrorist tool? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been thinking about this ever since last years Hacker conference when someone brought in a remote controlled helicopter.

    How long until some stupid terrorist straps a stick of dynamite onto the underside of a helicopter, flies it up to the 60th floor office of some fortune 500 company and crashes into the side of the building? If you were to have the explosive go off with a proximity detector it would be all over.

    Really really really dirt cheap surface to air missle.

    These things scare me.

    For the record I'm against this stupid war and oppose violence in all forms. I can just see this happening one day and it freaks me out.

  89. Re:a million points of light recording our every m by geekoid · · Score: 1

    No.

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  90. Potential Problems: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Potential Problems:

    1. Robot flying...bzzzzzz..bam...intercepted wall
    2. Look a mosquito...bam...bam...bam.

  91. Nice... by Big+Nothing · · Score: 1

    Wonder when I can buy this baby at ThinkGeek?

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  92. A 1 gram bomb? by sean.peters · · Score: 1

    The whole thing weighs 8.9 grams. The payload couldn't possibly be more than a gram or so. I'm not sure how small they can make a working camera, but I do know that even if the entire body of the "aircraft" was made of explosives, it would make a very small "kaboom". A shotgun primer weighs more than 10 grams.

    Sean

  93. I could make a tiny Epson flyer too by confused+philosopher · · Score: 1

    Just attach a little kite made of tissue paper and a thread to the print head of an Epson FX80 and print the Bible.

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  94. Alternative uses: by chiph · · Score: 3, Funny

    My cat would love this thing.

    Chip H.

  95. The next manager printer prototype. by kabocox · · Score: 1

    It will be awesome if they can make a fully functional printer out of it. Could you see 4 of these things flying back and forth over your paper spraying ink?

    1 It would use lots of ink
    2 Print 2 to 5 sheets of paper before a refill
    3 Refills cost $25-$30
    4 It is pretty watching your tether humming birds print you pages.
    5 Profit off of CEOs with way too much money.

    Epson has its eyes towards the future here.

  96. Reading the description... by barfarf · · Score: 1

    ... this really reminded me of Sikorsky of the Starjammers from the X-Men comic book.

    http://www.uncannyxmen.net/images/headshots/sikors ky.jpg

    As a side note, can anyone tell my why my link is getting an extra space in the url that I didn't add?

  97. My imagination is just fine. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like to imagine devices like Heinlein's 'Shipstones.' The advances in energy storage pale in relation to almost any other technology related field. i.e., most batteries suck.

  98. Re:Ni-MH battery? by g00bd0g · · Score: 1

    While cool, this actually isn't all that amazing, hobbiests have been making micro R/C helicopters for years, and I've seen a few almost that small. Check out EZONE MICRO HELI BOARD for all your micro heli enjoyment. I also have one of these VECTRON FLYING SAUCER Cheap, easy to fly, programmable messages, great for parties! A butload of fun, really!

  99. Maybe its a capacitor? by rufusdufus · · Score: 1

    The smallest airplanes you can buy at the hobby store use a capacitor for power. You charge the capacitor with a battery and get about a minute of flight. Maybe this could use something like that.

  100. Could be used for murder/assassination. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just imagine a gnat sized robot flies up to the president of the united states and injects a poison that will instantly kill him.

    There would be very little you could do to protect yourself against this barring being completely protected by netting or some body armor and a mask to cover all exposed skin.

  101. Not smaller... bigger! by Not_Wiggins · · Score: 1

    Imagine the awe-inspiring sight of a larger-scale version (say, with the wing-span of half a football field) flying over head... especially if it was armed to the teeth.

    Talk about fun!

    (This disclaimer is for the sarcasm impaired...)

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  102. Japanese TV report by Grummet · · Score: 1

    hey all, just saw this on the morning news here in Japan. Given the time this article was posted probably no one will read my comment, but anyway - to solve the mystery - It was tethered! They demonstrated it that way while saying it should be able to use a battery. The really weird part was that the researcher who was demonstrating it said that it had potential uses for going places people usually can't like going to look at Grandma or the kids out in the yard while Mom is continuing with the housework! My wife and I simultaneously said "Huh? What the ....?" Otherwise, they only said they would "like to use a wireless technology for control" but the actual flying prototype was controlled via the tether too. - Jeff -

  103. Wait a minute! by sryx · · Score: 1

    Ok so Lexmark is using the DCMA to protect it's Ink Cartridges, now Epson is going to use Tiny Flying Robots!? I never thought I'd say this but I think the DCMA isn't that bad :P
    -Jason

  104. Not impressed by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
    I won't be impressed until someone designs that little gold remote control bee from the Richy Rich movie. That is by far one of the coolest geek toys of the future that I have seen.

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  105. obligatory Kentucky Fried Movie quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "A TOY ROBOT!"

    (dives through glass window)

  106. Re:Ni-MH battery? by bigsmelly · · Score: 1

    So can Rotor based craft. They can autorotate.

  107. Thank Heavens, They're Using Bluetooth... by BallPeenHammer · · Score: 0
    ...or it might have taken me forever to hack into their navigation and steal them all.

  108. Sweet by Cackmobile · · Score: 1

    make one with a small video camera and fly it into the girls locker room etc. Perverts around the world rejoice. or we could finally find out what women do in the toilets when they go in big groups.

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  109. Re:micromechatronics? You need this to fight by Lord+Agni · · Score: 1

    MicroMechaGodzilla!