Slashdot geeks are massively upset about this because GNOME is not targeting them anymore!
And other/. geeks are massively happy and thoroughly support the direction GNOME is taking.
Network transparency seems to be a feature that many people use and that many other users do not use. If this was not the case we wouldn't get these little wars going over the issue.
Besides, this project is a fork from the regular XFree86 project. If there is a time to make a change like this, this may be it. Those who do need network transparency could use XFree while those who don't could use Xouvert (if the project chooses to go in this direction, which sounds pretty unlikely anyway).
In Canada we have both center and centre. Center is used to refer to the middle of something: "the center of a circle"; meanwhile centre is used to refer to an organized thingie (my vocabulary is a little lazy right now): "a shopping centre".
A few months ago I read about a study (done in England, I think - they seem to do all the weird/cool studies there) that looked at dietary sources of silicon. In years gone by, all the silicon we needed came in our water supplies. However, because of the method we use for water treatment, it all gets removed. In today's world, beer is one of the best dietary sources of silicon and they actually recommended it for young adults to encourage bone strength.
That said, there's always the moderation issue. Let's try not to forget that.
And, just for fun, here's the top google search result for "beer dietary source silicon". I'm sure you really wanted to know that.
I'm in a similar boat. I just can't seem to get motivated to work. I'm a student, but writing papers just kills me.
This past year I tried pushing myself harder and harder to get the work done. It got to the point that the harder I tried, the less I got done. I was simply unable to function.
Looking back at this past year and comparing it to previous years I noticed one key difference: I had stopped taking time off. As deadlines loomed I continually convinced myself that I could take a break after I finish this current assignment. Then others came up. I fell further and further behind, so I kept pushing myself harder and harder to finish. I started cutting out sleep, excercise, and most social activities, and it just got worse.
Take a day off every week. A day that is restful, rejuvenating, and different. This doesn't mean laying around watching TV all day once a week. Usually I just feel worse for having done that, but sometimes it is what I need. Find a nice hobby and set aside some time for it. Spend time with family and friends. Do something different. On this day, use your little worry list to take note of any concerns that come up regarding your work. Jot them down and then get on with your day off.
Also (disclaimer: I'm studying to be a priest:-)), I find that along these same lines is prayer. Taking a regular daily time to listen to God helps me to focus. Like exercise and sleep, it's easy to cut this time out ("Oh, I'll pray later tonight..."), but I find this just kills me. It is what brings meaning to my life and gives me a reason to continue doing all the other work. I heartily recommend finding some method of prayer that works for you.:-)
Yep! Opera has something very similar (and IMO more powerful):
F12 pops up a menu of "quick preferences". It includes things like changing the User Agent identification, what popups to allow, and cookies. Also, it has options for allowing GIF animations, embedded audio, Java, JavaScript, and plugins.
This is really handy. It's easy to leave plugins and Java off by default, and then simply turn them on if I happen to run into a site that requires them. Similar idea to the Firebird extension; different implementation.
You may want to consider Sylpheed. It uses the GTK+ toolkit which is fairly cross-platform. It's meant to be fast and lightweight. It has a Windows port.
It may not be what you're looking for, but it can't hurt to take a look. And if it's just missing a few features, contributing to this project may be more feasible than starting your own.
Interesting... you seem to mention the same browser several times:
No, but some browsers use the same renderer. Safari and Konq may both use khtml, but they are significantly different browsers. The browser is a package that has many parts, one of which is the renderer.
Example: As you point out, both Epiphany and Galeon use the Gecko renderer. Also, both have an interface that uses GTK. However, they are different browsers. They handle bookmarks differently. They have different context (right-click) menus. They handle middle-clicks differently. For the way I work, Galeon is a great browser, while Epiphany is a frustrating experience.
The rendering engine is only a small part of the web browser. It's important, but it's not everything.
Maybe, but there's also people with home systems that they never reboot, such as firewalls or file servers for their home network. For many geeks, a long uptime is a bit of a status symbol. Heck, I was pretty darn proud that I could get my Win95 box to work (doing actual work) for up to about 4 days without a reboot! Sure, but GNU/Linux standards that's pathetic, but I digress. The point is, many home users push their machines. Sure, they are the admins, but they're also just regular schmoes.
My email provider (Fastmail) has a neat way of dealing with html email. I have my default view set to "text only". When if comes across an email that has only an html part, it runs the message through lynx and I see the output. I get an easy view of the message without any possible security risks. Very nice.
I'd rather just have a non-sucky UI for finding inside the bookmarks file.
Have you ever considered a separate bookmark manager such as Powermarks? It lets me easily search through hundreds of saved bookmarks. If I find a site that is slightly interesting, I bookmark it. Any time later, I can type in a few keywords to find it again. It is incredibly fast, even on my old P150, and the developers are very responsive to suggestions. Also, it opens the bookmarks in whatever browser I have open at the time: IE, Moz, or Opera.
128M extra memory for the functionality of a PDA??? What are you trying to run on it? That's more RAM than my old laptop (which I still use regularly). Seriously, unless you want to run Open Office on your PDA, why would you need this much memory for PDA functionality? (Besides the whole "640k is more than anyone would ever need" argument.)
One thing about students is they often move around a lot. Christmas, other breaks, summer, sometimes during the year. Having a laptop has made this much easier.
Think about it: would you rather move a 50lb monitor, not including the cpu and other accessories, or a 7lb laptop? If you're flying, which is easier to bring on the plane? How about the bus, or even a car? Having a laptop has made me a happy man.
I don't even have a printer. The ones on campus work well enough, and I don't have to worry about maintaining one. I just upload my papers to my web server or email them to myself. Then, at school, retrieve them and print them up.
I don't recommend laptops for bringing to class. It's kind of big, and if anything happens to it, my whole computer is gone. It's just not worth the risk. For class notes, either use an inexpensive PDA with a folding keyboard or just use paper. Often paper is easier, cheaper, and faster.
The biggest problem I've had with IE is its lack of support for CSS. Doing a bit of web design, half my time is spent trying to find the CSS properties that will break IE the least. Even simple positioning commands create interesting bugs in IE 5.x and 6. Completely unexplainable things start to happen.
For example, a div that is floating on the right at the bottom of the screen: it appears there, but part of it also appears floating higher up on the left side of the screen, but only if the window is resized. Really, what up with that?
Life would be so much easier if I only had to design for Moz and Opera...
Just curious. It seems that all the comments revolve around how SCO is stupid and wrong and greedy and dumb and soon to be extinct.
What if they're not. What if they do have a genuine grievance. I'm not trying to be a troll or flamebait, just honestly curious. What impact would this have on GNU/Linux? Would people honor SCO's claims if they're proven right?
Odd. For me it does change. I click on it, it gets an through the camera. I click again, see half a camera. I click again, it's back to normal (a full camera). (On Windows)
Can someone give me some good reasons why I should use Opera over Mozilla (or at least, why i should use Opera in certain situations)?
Sure. Speed is one thing. On my (old) computer, Mozilla is really sluggish. It takes over 30 seconds to load. Opera is quite snappy, and loads in about 15.
Opera's keyboard support is superb (and now easily cusomizable). Surfing on a laptop, my hands are always near the keyboard, and Opera's use of hotkeys really speeds up browsing. Everything is easily accesible with the keyboard (at least everything I've tried to do...)
Opera makes it incredibly easy to switch on/off plugins/java/cookies/popups/etc (F12). It's really handy if a site needs a plugin but I usually keep it off.
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Zealot: One who is zealous; one who engages warmly in any cause, and pursues his object with earnestness and ardor; (Webster's, from Dictionary.com)
;-)
Let's try to remember that words sometimes have more than one meaning.
And other /. geeks are massively happy and thoroughly support the direction GNOME is taking.
Network transparency seems to be a feature that many people use and that many other users do not use. If this was not the case we wouldn't get these little wars going over the issue.
Besides, this project is a fork from the regular XFree86 project. If there is a time to make a change like this, this may be it. Those who do need network transparency could use XFree while those who don't could use Xouvert (if the project chooses to go in this direction, which sounds pretty unlikely anyway).
Sure, I'm being picky, but...
In Canada we have both center and centre. Center is used to refer to the middle of something: "the center of a circle"; meanwhile centre is used to refer to an organized thingie (my vocabulary is a little lazy right now): "a shopping centre".
Why? Because we can.
A few months ago I read about a study (done in England, I think - they seem to do all the weird/cool studies there) that looked at dietary sources of silicon. In years gone by, all the silicon we needed came in our water supplies. However, because of the method we use for water treatment, it all gets removed. In today's world, beer is one of the best dietary sources of silicon and they actually recommended it for young adults to encourage bone strength.
That said, there's always the moderation issue. Let's try not to forget that.
And, just for fun, here's the top google search result for "beer dietary source silicon". I'm sure you really wanted to know that.
"Web Standards: Please, Oh Please, Test Your Site On Something Other Than IE".
:-)
It just rolls off the tongue
I'm in a similar boat. I just can't seem to get motivated to work. I'm a student, but writing papers just kills me.
:-)), I find that along these same lines is prayer. Taking a regular daily time to listen to God helps me to focus. Like exercise and sleep, it's easy to cut this time out ("Oh, I'll pray later tonight..."), but I find this just kills me. It is what brings meaning to my life and gives me a reason to continue doing all the other work. I heartily recommend finding some method of prayer that works for you. :-)
This past year I tried pushing myself harder and harder to get the work done. It got to the point that the harder I tried, the less I got done. I was simply unable to function.
Looking back at this past year and comparing it to previous years I noticed one key difference: I had stopped taking time off. As deadlines loomed I continually convinced myself that I could take a break after I finish this current assignment. Then others came up. I fell further and further behind, so I kept pushing myself harder and harder to finish. I started cutting out sleep, excercise, and most social activities, and it just got worse.
Take a day off every week. A day that is restful, rejuvenating, and different. This doesn't mean laying around watching TV all day once a week. Usually I just feel worse for having done that, but sometimes it is what I need. Find a nice hobby and set aside some time for it. Spend time with family and friends. Do something different. On this day, use your little worry list to take note of any concerns that come up regarding your work. Jot them down and then get on with your day off.
Also (disclaimer: I'm studying to be a priest
Good point. I forgot about that one. (What can I say - I love Opera ;-) I'll have to check it out later.
(Mental note: install PrefBar)
I am not a Kraft Dinner???
Ah. That makes a lot more sense :-)
Yep! Opera has something very similar (and IMO more powerful):
F12 pops up a menu of "quick preferences". It includes things like changing the User Agent identification, what popups to allow, and cookies. Also, it has options for allowing GIF animations, embedded audio, Java, JavaScript, and plugins.
This is really handy. It's easy to leave plugins and Java off by default, and then simply turn them on if I happen to run into a site that requires them. Similar idea to the Firebird extension; different implementation.
I thought you were referring to my karma whoring by submitting a SCO story to /. :-)
Ah! They're on to me! Run away!!!
You may want to consider Sylpheed. It uses the GTK+ toolkit which is fairly cross-platform. It's meant to be fast and lightweight. It has a Windows port.
It may not be what you're looking for, but it can't hurt to take a look. And if it's just missing a few features, contributing to this project may be more feasible than starting your own.
Interesting... you seem to mention the same browser several times:
No, but some browsers use the same renderer. Safari and Konq may both use khtml, but they are significantly different browsers. The browser is a package that has many parts, one of which is the renderer.
Example: As you point out, both Epiphany and Galeon use the Gecko renderer. Also, both have an interface that uses GTK. However, they are different browsers. They handle bookmarks differently. They have different context (right-click) menus. They handle middle-clicks differently. For the way I work, Galeon is a great browser, while Epiphany is a frustrating experience.
The rendering engine is only a small part of the web browser. It's important, but it's not everything.
> You're the admin.
Maybe, but there's also people with home systems that they never reboot, such as firewalls or file servers for their home network. For many geeks, a long uptime is a bit of a status symbol. Heck, I was pretty darn proud that I could get my Win95 box to work (doing actual work) for up to about 4 days without a reboot! Sure, but GNU/Linux standards that's pathetic, but I digress. The point is, many home users push their machines. Sure, they are the admins, but they're also just regular schmoes.
My email provider (Fastmail) has a neat way of dealing with html email. I have my default view set to "text only". When if comes across an email that has only an html part, it runs the message through lynx and I see the output. I get an easy view of the message without any possible security risks. Very nice.
I'd rather just have a non-sucky UI for finding inside the bookmarks file.
Have you ever considered a separate bookmark manager such as Powermarks? It lets me easily search through hundreds of saved bookmarks. If I find a site that is slightly interesting, I bookmark it. Any time later, I can type in a few keywords to find it again. It is incredibly fast, even on my old P150, and the developers are very responsive to suggestions. Also, it opens the bookmarks in whatever browser I have open at the time: IE, Moz, or Opera.
128M Memory Card
128M extra memory for the functionality of a PDA??? What are you trying to run on it? That's more RAM than my old laptop (which I still use regularly). Seriously, unless you want to run Open Office on your PDA, why would you need this much memory for PDA functionality? (Besides the whole "640k is more than anyone would ever need" argument.)
That's how *my* messages usually go! HAVE YOU BEEN SPYING ON ME?
I guess I do need that encryption thing...
Yep. I did. So did this guy a couple weeks later.
One thing about students is they often move around a lot. Christmas, other breaks, summer, sometimes during the year. Having a laptop has made this much easier.
Think about it: would you rather move a 50lb monitor, not including the cpu and other accessories, or a 7lb laptop? If you're flying, which is easier to bring on the plane? How about the bus, or even a car? Having a laptop has made me a happy man.
I don't even have a printer. The ones on campus work well enough, and I don't have to worry about maintaining one. I just upload my papers to my web server or email them to myself. Then, at school, retrieve them and print them up.
I don't recommend laptops for bringing to class. It's kind of big, and if anything happens to it, my whole computer is gone. It's just not worth the risk. For class notes, either use an inexpensive PDA with a folding keyboard or just use paper. Often paper is easier, cheaper, and faster.
The biggest problem I've had with IE is its lack of support for CSS. Doing a bit of web design, half my time is spent trying to find the CSS properties that will break IE the least. Even simple positioning commands create interesting bugs in IE 5.x and 6. Completely unexplainable things start to happen.
For example, a div that is floating on the right at the bottom of the screen: it appears there, but part of it also appears floating higher up on the left side of the screen, but only if the window is resized. Really, what up with that?
Life would be so much easier if I only had to design for Moz and Opera...
I posted this same idea 2 weeks ago!
So, now can I sue him for stealing my IP? ;-)
Just curious. It seems that all the comments revolve around how SCO is stupid and wrong and greedy and dumb and soon to be extinct.
What if they're not. What if they do have a genuine grievance. I'm not trying to be a troll or flamebait, just honestly curious. What impact would this have on GNU/Linux? Would people honor SCO's claims if they're proven right?
Some things are so obvious they don't need to be said
:-)
**ducks**
(Sorry, you walked right into that one
Odd. For me it does change. I click on it, it gets an through the camera. I click again, see half a camera. I click again, it's back to normal (a full camera). (On Windows)
Can someone give me some good reasons why I should use Opera over Mozilla (or at least, why i should use Opera in certain situations)?
Sure. Speed is one thing. On my (old) computer, Mozilla is really sluggish. It takes over 30 seconds to load. Opera is quite snappy, and loads in about 15.
Opera's keyboard support is superb (and now easily cusomizable). Surfing on a laptop, my hands are always near the keyboard, and Opera's use of hotkeys really speeds up browsing. Everything is easily accesible with the keyboard (at least everything I've tried to do...)
Opera makes it incredibly easy to switch on/off plugins/java/cookies/popups/etc (F12). It's really handy if a site needs a plugin but I usually keep it off.
In general, I just find it really usable.