If you look back to the top of this comment thread, you will see that the OP was complaining about the $99. That is why I "keep returning to the $99" as you say. Why you see this as a diversion from the topic I'll never understand - as that WAS the topic brought up.
You brought up the cost of the Mac. Okay, yes you have to buy a Mac, if you don't have one. I never denied that. I'm sure you understand that Apple developed everything on the Mac and don't see a business strategy for the cost it would require to port it all to some other platform (such as Windows), when iOS development is going gangbusters as it is. For example, Microsoft never ported their Windows development environment to the Mac, did they? I am not "aghast" at giving away dev environments, but I'm also a realist about business and free doesn't support it. I suspect that if Android started out in the power position in which Apple finds itself, perhaps Google would be charging for development (or having it be ad-supported).
Portraying me as some sort of crazy fanboy ranter who supports Apple no matter what is your method of "poisoning the well" (a logic fallacy in case you are unfamiliar). It was pretty easy for me to jump to the conclusion that you were a haterboy because of the tirade you went off into because I disagreed with you. FYI, I spend 90% of my time working on Windows machines. I am quite comfortable with them and develop on them. On which dev environment is better, I disagree with you. I find the Apple one light-years ahead of Windows. I can't comment on Android, as that is unfamiliar ground to me.
I never said costs don't exist. No matter what you are developing for, costs exist. My point was that $99 is not a steep amount unless you are still living in your mom's basement. My other point was that for that $99 dollars, at least you get the full dev environment, instead of paing $499 for the full Visual C++ environ (microsoft).
You are the one who started a rant; if you look back at the posts YOU started the vitriol, not me. Your hater attitude is typical of those who feel they must hate Apple no matter what they do. So you are the the fool, not me. No matter how much you lie to yourself.
That's also assuming you have a Mac in the first place. You can develop for Android and most other platforms on any mainstream OS on any hardware capable of running it. If you want to develop for iOS and use the proper toolchain rather than some backwards 3rd party hacked together PoS then you'll need to add $1000 or whatever to the bill to buy Apple hardware.
No matter what you are developing for, you need hardware. Why should Apple port their environment to some other platform and (as you obviously want) give it away for free. If you can't afford hardware, get out of the game. It is not a barrier for the developers of the hundreds of thousands of apps in the app store.
Wow, Apple charges you $99 a year subscription, and then gives you the access to their API's, the free software GCC toolchain and an IDE for free. Then they only take a 30 percent cut of everything you sell on top of that. How generous.
And a gigantic class library that makes app development a breeze, hater. And Microsoft Visual C++ is a $499 cash outlay.
Perhaps the fees are currency conversion of the like. I notice the weakness of the dollar keeps my overseas sales profits pretty low. The Games/Word Games category is huge. My apps are typically between 400th and 800th in that category and still get sales. Having a good description and good search keywords helps.
I notice that the Visual C++ "free edition" is not the same as the "professional edition." Amazon lists the full version at $499. Apple makes no such distinction, the entire environment is free, except running on the device costs $99 per year. The reason I say the tool price is relevant is that all the crybabies over $99 intentionally ignore the fact that the tools come with that price. And no, don't go down the slippery slope of cost of computer, electricity, etc. I was only showing that you get something for the $99 - it's not just some ripoff fee. Apple has to develop those tools and that's how they pay for them.
If $99/yr is cutting significantly into your profits, then you have no chance of making good money anyway. Also, the complete dev environment comes with that $99.
But if you think of Apple as "The House" and the Apple Application Developers as "The Gamblers" the saying that "The House always wins" resonates. As opposed to Windows Application Developers who don't directly add to the bottom lines of the controllers of their Operating System vendors or Linux Application Developers who don't have typical OS vendors.
Wow, I didn't know that Microsoft was giving out copies of their development system, aka Microsoft Visual C++ (or whatever). The $99 includes the dev environment. The 30% more than covers what would have been distribution, hosting, billing, credit card, etc costs.
Perhaps that is true if your app is a flaming piece of shit. My apps continue to have sales after nine months despite never breaking into the top 200 in Games/Word subcategory. $99 is a pittance considering that the development software is FREE.
Extra fees to move the money out? Ridiculous. I get my straight 70% auto-deposited every quarter.
Agreed. Any country that tolerates illegally-obtained evidence is only a step away from outright corruption.
In the UK, if your evidence was obtained illegally then not only do you suffer the appropriate sanctions for that, but ALL evidence gained that way is null and void when it comes to providing prosecutions - you basically wipe out the possibility of EVER prosecuting that person for whatever crime you had evidence of by doing anything illegal yourself. It's not good policing to wipe out all your evidence (including other, legally obtained, evidence) and provide your target with almost complete immunity from prosecution because you didn't get approval for your wiretaps etc.
Military things work differently in practice but even "officially" they are supposed to work the same way.
I believe the idea is to gather illegal evidence (that you never intend to use in court) to see who the badguys are. Next you get an "anonymous" tip about who to get a legal wiretap against. Surprise! Your tip was real good!
When they are trying to win mindshare and marketshare, they often ship more than they can sell. Just ask HP about their tablet. The point is, they shipped more than Apple this quarter, but will they sell them all? Time will tell. And Samsung exceeding Apple is most definitely NOT a "quarter after quarter."
Sales vs. shipped matters only early on in a product lifecycle. There's a huge difference between 1,000,000 shipped but 900,000 sitting on shelves vs. 550,000 shipped and 500,000 sold. 1M shipped doesn't mean jack shit if 90% are sitting unwanted on store shelves.
After a product has been selling though? The sold vs. shipped rate is basically the same thing. It's not like the retailers are just ordering them and throwing them out like expired heads of lettuce.
--Jeremy
Except that right now, those shipping numbers are what's being used for new products! And ask HP about throwing out products (tablets) like expired heads of lettuce.
Judging by majority of polls etc... I'm inclined to theorize that apple's units sold numbers are more inflated then samsungs
No. Apple easily sells every single unit the make (also, they release SALES numbers, not shipped numbers). I suspect there's a reason Samsung doesn't release sales numbers.
If I'm shredding something especially sensitive- I usually put the shredded paper in with the same bag as the kitty litter.
Doesn't make reassembling the documents any easier- but if any crook goes to the trouble of doing that... maybe they deserve access to my security codes.
Not bad. I use my shred as litter for my chickens, then it goes into the garden for fertilizer.
It's interesting that you thought of it that way. May be it's showing your psychology more than anything else?
Wow, weak attempt to turn it around. You are on slashdot; hence Prob(male) is very high. You say "suck Jobs' dick." Hence your reference is homosexual.
Baseline happiness can arguably be negatively correlated to competitiveness, drive and success. You are naturally happy, so you don't worry about making things better for yourself or your children, you just go with the flow because things are pretty good the way they are.
Check out the decisions of people before and after they go on an SSRI. The small sample of SSRI users I know tend to fall into a complacent, ultimately self destructive, state when they are on the pills for too long (6 months or more). It's not something I've seen widely published in the literature, just personal observation shared between myself and other non-SSRI users about SSRI users we know.
I somewhat agree, though without the "self-destructive" part of your statement. I have been on SSRI and have seen my own complacency reduce my drive.
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It is not a scam. All previous iPhones still operate as they always have. No features have been removed.
And have the flight attendants give blowjobs instead.
Yes, China puts out more greenhouse gases, but not on a per-capita basis. We continue to be the gas belchers in that regard.
$900 for a dual core 16GB 800MHz phone would be laughed at if anyone else tried to sell it.
I bought a 64GB 4GS for less than that. Where did you get that price from?
Directly out of his ass.
If you look back to the top of this comment thread, you will see that the OP was complaining about the $99. That is why I "keep returning to the $99" as you say. Why you see this as a diversion from the topic I'll never understand - as that WAS the topic brought up.
You brought up the cost of the Mac. Okay, yes you have to buy a Mac, if you don't have one. I never denied that. I'm sure you understand that Apple developed everything on the Mac and don't see a business strategy for the cost it would require to port it all to some other platform (such as Windows), when iOS development is going gangbusters as it is. For example, Microsoft never ported their Windows development environment to the Mac, did they? I am not "aghast" at giving away dev environments, but I'm also a realist about business and free doesn't support it. I suspect that if Android started out in the power position in which Apple finds itself, perhaps Google would be charging for development (or having it be ad-supported).
Portraying me as some sort of crazy fanboy ranter who supports Apple no matter what is your method of "poisoning the well" (a logic fallacy in case you are unfamiliar). It was pretty easy for me to jump to the conclusion that you were a haterboy because of the tirade you went off into because I disagreed with you. FYI, I spend 90% of my time working on Windows machines. I am quite comfortable with them and develop on them. On which dev environment is better, I disagree with you. I find the Apple one light-years ahead of Windows. I can't comment on Android, as that is unfamiliar ground to me.
You are the one who started a rant; if you look back at the posts YOU started the vitriol, not me. Your hater attitude is typical of those who feel they must hate Apple no matter what they do. So you are the the fool, not me. No matter how much you lie to yourself.
Oh my god what a hater rant! I did NOT agree with your point, but your twisted brain thinks I did. You are retarded.
That's also assuming you have a Mac in the first place. You can develop for Android and most other platforms on any mainstream OS on any hardware capable of running it. If you want to develop for iOS and use the proper toolchain rather than some backwards 3rd party hacked together PoS then you'll need to add $1000 or whatever to the bill to buy Apple hardware.
No matter what you are developing for, you need hardware. Why should Apple port their environment to some other platform and (as you obviously want) give it away for free. If you can't afford hardware, get out of the game. It is not a barrier for the developers of the hundreds of thousands of apps in the app store.
development software is FREE.
Wow, Apple charges you $99 a year subscription, and then gives you the access to their API's, the free software GCC toolchain and an IDE for free. Then they only take a 30 percent cut of everything you sell on top of that. How generous.
And a gigantic class library that makes app development a breeze, hater. And Microsoft Visual C++ is a $499 cash outlay.
Perhaps the fees are currency conversion of the like. I notice the weakness of the dollar keeps my overseas sales profits pretty low. The Games/Word Games category is huge. My apps are typically between 400th and 800th in that category and still get sales. Having a good description and good search keywords helps.
I notice that the Visual C++ "free edition" is not the same as the "professional edition." Amazon lists the full version at $499. Apple makes no such distinction, the entire environment is free, except running on the device costs $99 per year. The reason I say the tool price is relevant is that all the crybabies over $99 intentionally ignore the fact that the tools come with that price. And no, don't go down the slippery slope of cost of computer, electricity, etc. I was only showing that you get something for the $99 - it's not just some ripoff fee. Apple has to develop those tools and that's how they pay for them.
If $99/yr is cutting significantly into your profits, then you have no chance of making good money anyway. Also, the complete dev environment comes with that $99.
But if you think of Apple as "The House" and the Apple Application Developers as "The Gamblers" the saying that "The House always wins" resonates. As opposed to Windows Application Developers who don't directly add to the bottom lines of the controllers of their Operating System vendors or Linux Application Developers who don't have typical OS vendors.
Wow, I didn't know that Microsoft was giving out copies of their development system, aka Microsoft Visual C++ (or whatever). The $99 includes the dev environment. The 30% more than covers what would have been distribution, hosting, billing, credit card, etc costs.
Perhaps that is true if your app is a flaming piece of shit. My apps continue to have sales after nine months despite never breaking into the top 200 in Games/Word subcategory. $99 is a pittance considering that the development software is FREE. Extra fees to move the money out? Ridiculous. I get my straight 70% auto-deposited every quarter.
Agreed. Any country that tolerates illegally-obtained evidence is only a step away from outright corruption.
In the UK, if your evidence was obtained illegally then not only do you suffer the appropriate sanctions for that, but ALL evidence gained that way is null and void when it comes to providing prosecutions - you basically wipe out the possibility of EVER prosecuting that person for whatever crime you had evidence of by doing anything illegal yourself. It's not good policing to wipe out all your evidence (including other, legally obtained, evidence) and provide your target with almost complete immunity from prosecution because you didn't get approval for your wiretaps etc.
Military things work differently in practice but even "officially" they are supposed to work the same way.
I believe the idea is to gather illegal evidence (that you never intend to use in court) to see who the badguys are. Next you get an "anonymous" tip about who to get a legal wiretap against. Surprise! Your tip was real good!
When they are trying to win mindshare and marketshare, they often ship more than they can sell. Just ask HP about their tablet. The point is, they shipped more than Apple this quarter, but will they sell them all? Time will tell. And Samsung exceeding Apple is most definitely NOT a "quarter after quarter."
Sales vs. shipped matters only early on in a product lifecycle. There's a huge difference between 1,000,000 shipped but 900,000 sitting on shelves vs. 550,000 shipped and 500,000 sold. 1M shipped doesn't mean jack shit if 90% are sitting unwanted on store shelves.
After a product has been selling though? The sold vs. shipped rate is basically the same thing. It's not like the retailers are just ordering them and throwing them out like expired heads of lettuce.
--Jeremy
Except that right now, those shipping numbers are what's being used for new products! And ask HP about throwing out products (tablets) like expired heads of lettuce.
Do you really think store shelf space is cheap? Do you really think Samsung does not look at the sale rate and adjust their production rate?
Not while they have a prayer of winning over mindset, they don't. Do you really think Samsung witholds sales numbers for no reason at all?
Judging by majority of polls etc... I'm inclined to theorize that apple's units sold numbers are more inflated then samsungs
No. Apple easily sells every single unit the make (also, they release SALES numbers, not shipped numbers). I suspect there's a reason Samsung doesn't release sales numbers.
If I'm shredding something especially sensitive- I usually put the shredded paper in with the same bag as the kitty litter.
Doesn't make reassembling the documents any easier- but if any crook goes to the trouble of doing that... maybe they deserve access to my security codes.
Not bad. I use my shred as litter for my chickens, then it goes into the garden for fertilizer.
Is it just bronze then?
It's interesting that you thought of it that way. May be it's showing your psychology more than anything else?
Wow, weak attempt to turn it around. You are on slashdot; hence Prob(male) is very high. You say "suck Jobs' dick." Hence your reference is homosexual.
Baseline happiness can arguably be negatively correlated to competitiveness, drive and success. You are naturally happy, so you don't worry about making things better for yourself or your children, you just go with the flow because things are pretty good the way they are.
Check out the decisions of people before and after they go on an SSRI. The small sample of SSRI users I know tend to fall into a complacent, ultimately self destructive, state when they are on the pills for too long (6 months or more). It's not something I've seen widely published in the literature, just personal observation shared between myself and other non-SSRI users about SSRI users we know.
I somewhat agree, though without the "self-destructive" part of your statement. I have been on SSRI and have seen my own complacency reduce my drive.
Better case over fucking rectangles and squares?? Why don't you go and suck Jobs' dick? Oh wait....!
Your repressed homosexuality is showing.
So the summary implies that black people are expected to be happier. Is that what is observed in the wild?