don't know where you get 5 years, but all of them I am aware of have at least a 20 year warranty, and last quite a long time. I know mine are 6 years old now, nothing wrong with them, good as new, and there are literally thousands and thousands of installations out there much older than mine. Heck, my batteries are even older and they are still working fine, the new desulphators vastly increase your battery life with just normal flooded lead-acid storage batteries.
I think the industry has matured around you,maybe, take another look. Solar and wind are quite useful and practical now for a lot of applications. I've been following these clear panels for several years now, glad to see they are finally getting to retail. Another good technology for joe homeowner is complete solar roofing systems. Normally say you got your regular roof with shingles, etc. The new systems completely eliminate that, the solar system IS the roof, so it has the same cost cutting aspect to it that replacing normal glazing with PV panels has.
every new app would in essence have to be a sophisticated antivir and anti everything else along with whatever else it was supposed to do. If every app did that.... I dunno, seems like the department of redundancy department.
My idea was just like a normal shoot em up video game, little tracking cookies that you (as your selected hero avatar) get to zap are one level of e-vile monster, then it goes up from there. zap bap pow, make it fun for people to hunt down and eliminate their spyware and viruses and whatnot.
either way, however it's being attempted now isn't working to the level it needs to work at, that's for sure. Clued in and caring people do it, everyone else, ehhh. And when you have 50 million "everyone elses" on the net at any one time, or even more, it's always going to be a problem.
it's weird but it's hard to get people to download and run antimalware stuff. But they WILL download and run other things, so, I got an idea, code one of those anti virus anti malware things so it works like a video game, you hunt and destroy the individual malware doodads graphically.
it's real easy. Goto your/. home page prefs, switch to the low-res lite version. Works just as good, you get all the same news, etc, loads faster, no strange colors, no bloat, no nuthin but what you really need. Took me about 15 minutes to get used to it, now if I go back and use full flavor I think "I don't need all this stuff, just the facts ma'am". It's nice, give it a try!
I'm wondering what ever happened to their cool running lightweight ceramic engine they were talking about a few years ago. Allegedly ran so cool and because it was mostly ceramic, the pistons didn't even need rings-no gross metal expansion/contraction. I read once about it, then poof. Of course I haven't looked either....
--you can own howitzers, rpgs, m-79s, 20 mm, etc. although not a lot in private hands, they are there. Totally legal, just no new ones on the market, all the older ones got grandfathered in.
And any used ones are gosh darn expensive.
The whole idea of the second amendment was exactly with no ambiguity t whatsoeverso the citizens had equal quality weapons, and more of them in quantity that the gooberment. It was *preceisely* for the situation for when the government became dictatorial.. We also AREN'T supposed to have a full time standing army, and I wish they would realise that, including all the doods who go join up and follow any order they are given. THAT was so any dictator wouldn't have a ready pool of willing lock steppers at his beck and call. I suggest these above the obvious law guys re-read a lot of our old history and documents. Getting kinda tired of macho flag wavers who swear an oath then immediately violate it going to fight illegal wars-or "police" illegal laws for that matter. They "swear an oath" to the "commander in chief" but the constitution-that they "swear an oath" to as well is supposedly OVER the commander in chief. Too bad not enough of them can bingo to that fact, maybe we wouldn't have gotten into a buncha unnecessary wars if we didn't have as many "ask no questions STFU follow any order" types out there..
If you look around the planet, dictators always have people who follow their orders and do the tyrannical stuff. There has never been an example of a dictator who wasn't supported by his military and police forces, else, he couldn't be a dictator. Unfortunately, they are the last ones to realise what's going on, the last ones to abandon support for the dictator, (milosevech is a good example semi-recently) and given human nature, they tend to (for the most part) like the power they get over the "effin civvies".
just my anecdotal, but I've been to two differnt TV repair shops in the past two years,once for a monitor repair (not worth it cost wise but possible) and once for a vcr part (unobtanium) both places had stacks of computers and monitors in them, and the guys there did all manner of repairs, in fact, more repairs on computers (real repairs, not just component swapping) than the average whitebox shop I have been in. I found both the guys to be quite hip and knowledgeable computer users and techs. They got into the biz because they loved gadgets and had the attitude and aptitude for it, so it's a simple transition to working on boxes. One came from a dotmilgov tech background, the other from a hobbyist to a civvie tech school background.
sure, you can do it with a computer, I just don't think it's necessary to do it, nor wise to do it, nor to inflict the cost on people. I see it merely as a way to do massive vote hijacking. It's bad enough they can hijack a little here and there, but computerised opens it up to all sorts of new criminal frontiers.
The "no one" vote option would mean that "no one" wins, and yes, they would have to re-hold the election until some named human really won. That would force the parties to actually run someone people at least semi trusted.
And no, I don't troll. I post a lot of strong emotional thoughts a lot of times, but it's not trolling, it's not designed to garner responses just for response's sake. No desire to play silly games like that, no desire, no need. I've moderated too many large forums over the years to hold much truck with trolling or spamming.
.... he claims that IBM wouldn't use their patents against the kernel...
uhh, WHICH patents? What *exactly* does IBM claim to "own" that's in the kernel? Have they released the little details, or are they allowing the kernel developers to just go on their merry way and keep building a better kernel that at some time in the future they can pull a claim on?
big mess, combining copyright with patents. hey, why can't nvelists claim a patent on their unique novel they write? What's the diff? a novel is something written that's designed to invoke a feeling, it "does something", even if it's entertainment. So? A patent is a claim that you invented something new and unique and it has to do something. What's the difference?
That's why software patents are a business scam and an absurdity.
Anyway, what does IBM "own" in the kernel that everyone is supposed to not worry about? Shouldn't it be removed as quickly as possible if it exists?
--the lawsuit could still be there. Given relativity, all crimes are committed in the past when it comes to the justice system. You could promise to the nice trooper you will never speed again, and currently you are sitting on the side of the road at rest, not speeding at all,but you'll still probably get the ticket.
There's statutes of limitation laws, big variable there though. I don't know what if any of them apply to patents, copyrights or to contractural disputes. I don't think much if any though, if you did it in the past and it was illegal then and they call you on it and can prove it in court, you lose.
--exactly what you think and know, it's the kernel proper by a dictionary, and it also is the commonly used geek term for linux operating systems built around the kernel. It's both in modern parlance.
example with linux in a modern casual sense:
"hey man,nice screen there, whatcha running?" "moz on linux" "OK"
I'll repeat what I said, IBM is being coy and cute. The argument is, they need their patent portfolio for MAD in case someone else threatens them, etc. they then claim they sorta promise to nevah evah sue the linux kernel. they are being specific, I was pointing it that dude saying what he said still left a lot of "linux-dom" hanging out with it's pants around it's ankles. It's because of what he DIDN'T say that I assert this.
I call shenanigans, if the "weapon" of the software patent didn't exist in the first place, there would be no need for them-or any other large IT place- to accumulate their "arsenal portfolio" in their MAD scenario. But they are. It's because they dig on monopolies, either small ones or medium ones or large ones or all of the above. It's just reality, and that's what they are used to, and the opposite theory is still too new and scary to them to consider seriously yet. They *sort of* understand free and open source, but the full realities of it are not making it all the way to the ultimate decsiion they would have to make. Baby steps at it, sure, they are doing that, full adult strides, no, and we just heard from one of their honchos that this is as far as they will go now, an oral promise which means absolutely zero legally that they won't sue "the kernel".I call on them to REALLY put up or shutup on it.
IBM is a huge multibillion dollar corporation, has flocks of lawyers and lobbyists and oodles of cash. Yet, they are not doing the *true* right thing in embracing free and open source by lobbying via the traditional way of getting some congress people to sponsor a bill to outlaw software patents. They are play acting at full support. they are offering bare minimum support, and that's it. It's more than "no" support, but it is not "full" support, and I feel justified in pointing that out. I don't care how large a half way support is, it's still half-way.
I hope they alter and do the right thing, I am not thinking they are going to do it though.
At some time in the futre, given ALL of todays trends,not just picking out a few and basing your decsion on that, but looking at the total big picture, "linux" as the operating system built around the kernel will be 0wnz0rz by a few big corporations. There might be some attempts at forks, etc, but given the nature of patents and big business, make no mistake, they want to own it eventually, with whatever legal techniques make the most sense to them at the time and they won't give a care in squahsing small guys, they never have in the past and won't hesitate in the future.. meanwhile, they will take all the free stuff they can get, and yes, give back some, but not the important *some* which are the patents.
If I am wrong, swell! I got no probs being wrong, I hope I am in this case, especially on a future prediction. All you can do is look at past actions, add in current reality, then do the best job you can on extrapolation. I have a pretty fair long term multiple decade track record on futurisms, not perfect, but better than a coin toss on a lot of subjects, merely using that simple technique and being cool on gathering data points from all directions. Just normal modeling, nothing special, just my little gig I do. I don't code, I do this.
When IBM and other large international powerful IT corporations start openly and publically lobbying for elimination of software patents and freely give them up for all to use, I'll believe they support FOSS, until then, nope, I'll call shenanigans and advise people to watch them, and to be making seriouscontingency plans based around the realities of existing patents..
freestate project is a good idea, but they picked an expensive state to move to. If they had picked vermont right next door,with similar pricing, etc, they would at least have started with a pure second amendment state. Or if they had picked maine, it would have been more attractive from a "move there and afford it" standpoint. And if they had picked a western state, they would have had an installed base of a lot of the rural people who have gotten shafted over and over again from the federal government and would maybe have been more comfortable with outsiders moving in to help out with fighting the feds--maybe, not sure on that one.
All he said was the kernel. Onbe word, covers only a part of what is going on now. That leaves distro releasers/developers, and all the other aspects that go into an OS that are still an open target for future actions.
Don't trust them. Use them as they are using "you", but never,ever trust them.
If IBM and the other big companies that are currently "embracing open source" were SERIOUS about it, they would be using their flocks of lawyers and lobbyists to try and get the copyright and patent laws changed-and they aren't. Actions or words, two different things
How long? As long as his handlers wanted him to stay there I guess. With the emergency war powers act and various other executive orders and states of emergency in effect now, they have no need for any elections or any more pretending. Read the "model states health emergency powers act" I think it's called. Pretty much outlines exactly they plan on doing. If I got the name a smidgen wrong it's still close enough to google for it. Basically-don't count on any "elections" unless you mean like when kim il dung has "elections".
What we have now is just showtime for the peeps to keep them amused and not really dwelling on the fact they are *living in a controlled police state.* the party is over and it's been over for quite a while now, they just need to let everyone down e-a-s-y because there's still a lot of armed folks out there. They got to go slow with it, but it's pretty much on shed-ule like the brits say. It gives the "political action" folks something to do and feel all "activist" about. They keep thinking they are going to "vote" their way back to freedom and prosperity for all and sundry.
humppph:p
I think the goons are just waiting for a bit more of a scared population to *beg* for "security measures" before they do it. "Ohh mee ohhh my, plz sav us frm de tarists!" stuff. The boiling frog approach applied to the hegelian dialectic.
You had one congressman starting to make serious waves, poof, he went to club fed, you had one senator making waves, poof, his plane fall down go boom. You had all of them getting sorta antsy, poof, US army stamp of approval brand anthrax mailed to selected pols and media types, poof, you got homeland security passed. You had one pretty strange airplane attack, poof, patriot act.
Pretty much scripted and easy to see. Right now they are giving all the cops "seekrit info and intel" about all the al cia-keda bad guys, etc, getting them onboard, making them get all puffed up and macho about it. And to throw them a bone,to get them all in good statist order, they just passed the "all cops can now be armed" act, even retired cops-who are just plain old civvies in reality- can now carry concealed wherever they want to go, no restrictions. Voice vote that one passed. They are now ubercitizens for life, an exalted "special" class, trashing the equal protections deal with the constitution. They are all digging on that action, no doubt.
... a MUCH better deal on my next box and Tv if I bought it from some crackheads out the back of a van someplace with no paperwork for cash. The thing is, why would I want to do that?
Some folks don't want to deal with MS in any manner from a very simple easy to understand concept --> THEY ARE CROOKS AND NOT NICE PEOPLE AND THEY WILL STAB YOU IN THE BACK EVENTUALLY.
Other people think it's OK,so that's their lookout then.
There's an old saying that fits "lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas".
yes, I know that, but I think in the future it will be outlawed or changed radically. They will complain that the "tarists" and porno traders and movie and song traders are using "encrypted anonymous wireless access points" and then do something about it. I don't know what technically they will do, but they will certainly try. It6's coming and here in a lot of cases already, every day we see more and more restrictions and lawsuits, still on my home page here is that dvd-copy place got put out of business, and that is fairly innocuous as things go. Big business and it's siamese twin government just don't want YOU to have encryption and anonymous this or that, and they got the gold and the guns, so they gonna get what they want, and turn thee and thou and me and you into "outlaws" suitable for...well, what happens to detainees lately.
I just got done reading several articles in a row over linux and patents and big business intentions. Go back to big blue, this is a quote, they "aren't contemplating any lawsuits against THE KERNEL". Still leaves quite the room for lawsuits against other folks though, don't it?
I'll say it again, don't trust global corporations ~governments, they will stab you in the back when it suits them. In the meantime they will rip you off for your brains and sweat until you are no longer useful to them, then f-f-f-ft! Cut you, bad.
And you moz developers doing MS work for them-no big boo hoo hoo crocodile tears when they shaft you, and they will, it's coming. This is serious clinical psychological *denial* to not see it. You really need to know who your friends are, and who your enemies are, and not live in fantasy land. Leopards do NOT change their spots.
yes, it would mean that, and if p2p and alleged "terrorist" and kiddie pornographers completely take advantage of anonymous wifi and various things like that I expect them to outlaw the encryption and unhackable access in various forms. I wouldn't put it past them to eventually require a unique access IP to be tied to a named human, at all times.
Governments are weird and will go to some lengths and spare no expense (all the money is theirs, they just let you use some of it when they want to) to enforce police actions of any sort once they set their collective minds to it. Look at merre olde englande, roving vans to catch people receiving unpaid-for "illegal" TV broadcasts. Geez, look at what is happening in china now and some other places, and who is in the thick of enforcing any amount of government surveillence and censoring and control-good old 'merkin based globalist corporations, all the name brand guys. Look who owns the implantable human tracker microchip, the one called "digital demon" in slang terms- "friendly open source"IBM.
I have no doubt the future will be forced global big brother,massive scale, with little differences between so called nations and global big business, the lines are blurring daily. We are just "human resources" to governments and global bigcos, to buy and sell and command and control, and to do that, they want to track their inventory-to surveil- and to monitor and to enter into databases what their inventory is doing. Encryption, "free" P2P, etc falls well outside those efforts, so eventually they will be outlawed entirely. Look at the proposals for mandatory blackboxes in the cars, and charging a per mile tax/fee will be one day behind that one. Internal passports-coming soon to a checkpoint near you. Newspeak in the media,and don't go against them, lest you become an untermenschen "detainee" and lose any remnants of human-ness.
We are in the "wild wild west" days of the net right now, a few years from now, I don't think it will exist like it does currently. The handwriting, as they say, is on the wall. Free and open and uncensored communication with "the masses" guy is the biggest threat global corporate government faces, so.... they will deal with it whatever it takes.
How many people predicted 3 years ago the sally and molly kidpack were going to get sued for song trading? I know I did, and got roundly accused of tinfoil hat-itis, because "no one is ever going to sue normal small time end users". Got told that a lot of times.
Oh well
There's ways to still communicate semi securely, and the ones who need to do it will do it, but universally? As soon as it gets just a scosh easier and more prevalent so as to start to threaten to become commonplace, expect a rather severe crackdown and smackdown.
sounds like a variation INITIATOR on the old YELLOWCAKE mr. subliminal style RYDER TRUCK keywords ECHELON to waste various governments HALIBURTON time and bandwith.
Side issue, but I have it one step removed from the puzzle palace guys that they had various "offshore" web based "shhhhh!-mail types" encrypted email services cracked quite a long time ago.
It's a gray area. On the ham bands-"radio" in general, encryption is technically illegal. I've been waiting for them to rule thusly on wireless computer applications. So far, it doesn't appear to be, but give it time and it probably will be "ruled" that it is.
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I think you are minimalizing the influence of "others", the non professionals, on internet publishing in general. and it's also a numbers game, writing and being published in a manner is now open to all, it is no longer limited to the professional "elite", and these same are still coming to grips with that reality. No matter how well educated and technical one is, there could very well be several people better who might read and comment on your writing and conclusions.
As to "news", no matter how much the mainstream corporate propoganda media arms might report on a subject, there might be several other real time points of view and observations on the same topic. For instance, I read frequently on western press websites about the fighting in iraq, then I go read it from a pro "insurgents" point of view. Well, on their side they are freedom fighters repelling a foreign invader, they aren't "insurgents". The same battles read quite differently sometimes, and even the facts are reported differently, such as actual wounded and killed, armor destroyed and how,etc. And look how much the "approved" media still will report outright lies without much comment and act as tools, the fake fat osama video is a good example, the TWA 800 shootdown is another. No better than rote parrots, almost the lot of them in the professional reporters guilds.
The internet IS busting up the older ways of doing things and eliminating the closed nature of reporting and writing in general. It will take some time to shake out, but it is similar to when printing presses became common, all of a sudden a lot more people could be heard from, the good and the bad and the mediocre. We are getting the same now, and attrition will negate consistently "bad" reporting and writing eventually. I DO know I'm getting some good writings from non mainstream "media" types, essential good information which is critical to know and think about. If I had to rely entirely on just a few large media outlets, it would be as skewed as it ever was, speaking as a serious news junky since the 50s. There have been very few non co-opted mainstream "journalists", print or broadcast in the US-very few.
As to slashdot, the articles are read here,by some smart people, it is relatively easy to skim over trivial and troll posts and get to some decent meat on your plate. Or have you forgotten "the slashdot effect"? That wouldn't happen and wouldn't exist as a commonly used phrase here if people weren't clicking over to the reference URL.
You cannot come to a full conclusion without accepting the full set of data, just picking and choosing and seeing things in an absolutist fashion based on incomplete acceptance of the data available is, at least, disingenuous.
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--you are correct. I watched it on the TV. Nixon had refused makeup and looked grayed out, that was part of why he apparently "lost" the debate. The other part was just that JFK was a very eloquent speaker compared to him (IMO).
in georgia after you allegedly "vote" with the diebold machines they give you a VERY interesting sticker to wear that day. It says "I voted". It's a picture of the computer itself voting, not a human being.
I think it's a very appropriate use of symbology to illustrate exactly what happened, especially the 2002 election, way too many "miracle" race results that defied all the pre and post polling odds.
Anyway, I think the point is moot, sometime soon they are gonna pull off another phony terrorist attack, a really big one, and drop any pretense of actually having a representative government.
... in some states. The R and D parties have passed laws that make it ludicrous to try and get a third party or independent candidate actually listed on the ballot. It varies, some states are incredibly difficult, some are just annoying. And you combine that with the collusion of big money mainstream media having a virtual lock out of any news on third partys and independents, you have in essence a hijacked government, controlled almost completely by two DEFINETLY for-uber-mega-profit organizations.
Anyway, with this article, I still think computerised voting is totally unnecessary, we just plain don't need it, don't need the cost, it is BILLIONS of dollars nationwide, we don't need computers to add simple sums at the precinct level,so just say *no*, no open source, no closed source, no source at all.
Some things computers are good for, others are an expensive hindrance. "Ohh shiny" and "we are in the computar age" don't cut it, computerised voting is "gadgets for gadgets sake", and someone's profits for the hardware and software, not because it's needed. Voting results should be reviewable with any set of biological eyeballs, anything else will be blackbox voting. It's bad enough with the stupid mechanical machines, we don't need anything beyond paper and pen, and a locked wooden box with a slit in the top to receive the ballots, and that's it.
Want to make it more fair? Institute at least a 24 hour voting period, and do the "ranking" method of voting, and have a "no one" option as well.
if I go to a site where I don't want to register (vast majority of them),I *don't*, I don't even use any phony info, I just skip it, and they lose a potential viewer and customer maybe, but I WOULD check off a few boxes indicating any type of ads that I wouldn't mind having on the page. I'm a normal guy, some gadgets and services interest me, I *might* go visit some companys webpage from an ad, just not ads that have zero relevance. Let ME pick, then you don't have to guess! Just give me a quick list to scan, I make my selections, then poof on to the content. No registering needed then, no cookies needed, no transfer of email address, no hard feelings.
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don't know where you get 5 years, but all of them I am aware of have at least a 20 year warranty, and last quite a long time. I know mine are 6 years old now, nothing wrong with them, good as new, and there are literally thousands and thousands of installations out there much older than mine. Heck, my batteries are even older and they are still working fine, the new desulphators vastly increase your battery life with just normal flooded lead-acid storage batteries.
I think the industry has matured around you,maybe, take another look. Solar and wind are quite useful and practical now for a lot of applications. I've been following these clear panels for several years now, glad to see they are finally getting to retail. Another good technology for joe homeowner is complete solar roofing systems. Normally say you got your regular roof with shingles, etc. The new systems completely eliminate that, the solar system IS the roof, so it has the same cost cutting aspect to it that replacing normal glazing with PV panels has.
Here's one:British Petroleum solar products
every new app would in essence have to be a sophisticated antivir and anti everything else along with whatever else it was supposed to do. If every app did that.... I dunno, seems like the department of redundancy department.
My idea was just like a normal shoot em up video game, little tracking cookies that you (as your selected hero avatar) get to zap are one level of e-vile monster, then it goes up from there. zap bap pow, make it fun for people to hunt down and eliminate their spyware and viruses and whatnot.
either way, however it's being attempted now isn't working to the level it needs to work at, that's for sure. Clued in and caring people do it, everyone else, ehhh. And when you have 50 million "everyone elses" on the net at any one time, or even more, it's always going to be a problem.
Doom 4-search and destroy malware monsters
it's weird but it's hard to get people to download and run antimalware stuff. But they WILL download and run other things, so, I got an idea, code one of those anti virus anti malware things so it works like a video game, you hunt and destroy the individual malware doodads graphically.
it's real easy. Goto your /. home page prefs, switch to the low-res lite version. Works just as good, you get all the same news, etc, loads faster, no strange colors, no bloat, no nuthin but what you really need. Took me about 15 minutes to get used to it, now if I go back and use full flavor I think "I don't need all this stuff, just the facts ma'am". It's nice, give it a try!
I'm wondering what ever happened to their cool running lightweight ceramic engine they were talking about a few years ago. Allegedly ran so cool and because it was mostly ceramic, the pistons didn't even need rings-no gross metal expansion/contraction. I read once about it, then poof. Of course I haven't looked either....
--you can own howitzers, rpgs, m-79s, 20 mm, etc. although not a lot in private hands, they are there. Totally legal, just no new ones on the market, all the older ones got grandfathered in.
And any used ones are gosh darn expensive.
The whole idea of the second amendment was exactly with no ambiguity t whatsoeverso the citizens had equal quality weapons, and more of them in quantity that the gooberment. It was *preceisely* for the situation for when the government became dictatorial.. We also AREN'T supposed to have a full time standing army, and I wish they would realise that, including all the doods who go join up and follow any order they are given. THAT was so any dictator wouldn't have a ready pool of willing lock steppers at his beck and call. I suggest these above the obvious law guys re-read a lot of our old history and documents. Getting kinda tired of macho flag wavers who swear an oath then immediately violate it going to fight illegal wars-or "police" illegal laws for that matter. They "swear an oath" to the "commander in chief" but the constitution-that they "swear an oath" to as well is supposedly OVER the commander in chief. Too bad not enough of them can bingo to that fact , maybe we wouldn't have gotten into a buncha unnecessary wars if we didn't have as many "ask no questions STFU follow any order" types out there..
If you look around the planet, dictators always have people who follow their orders and do the tyrannical stuff. There has never been an example of a dictator who wasn't supported by his military and police forces, else, he couldn't be a dictator. Unfortunately, they are the last ones to realise what's going on, the last ones to abandon support for the dictator, (milosevech is a good example semi-recently) and given human nature, they tend to (for the most part) like the power they get over the "effin civvies".
just my anecdotal, but I've been to two differnt TV repair shops in the past two years,once for a monitor repair (not worth it cost wise but possible) and once for a vcr part (unobtanium) both places had stacks of computers and monitors in them, and the guys there did all manner of repairs, in fact, more repairs on computers (real repairs, not just component swapping) than the average whitebox shop I have been in. I found both the guys to be quite hip and knowledgeable computer users and techs. They got into the biz because they loved gadgets and had the attitude and aptitude for it, so it's a simple transition to working on boxes. One came from a dotmilgov tech background, the other from a hobbyist to a civvie tech school background.
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sure, you can do it with a computer, I just don't think it's necessary to do it, nor wise to do it, nor to inflict the cost on people. I see it merely as a way to do massive vote hijacking. It's bad enough they can hijack a little here and there, but computerised opens it up to all sorts of new criminal frontiers.
The "no one" vote option would mean that "no one" wins, and yes, they would have to re-hold the election until some named human really won. That would force the parties to actually run someone people at least semi trusted.
And no, I don't troll. I post a lot of strong emotional thoughts a lot of times, but it's not trolling, it's not designed to garner responses just for response's sake. No desire to play silly games like that, no desire, no need. I've moderated too many large forums over the years to hold much truck with trolling or spamming.
.... he claims that IBM wouldn't use their patents against the kernel...
uhh, WHICH patents? What *exactly* does IBM claim to "own" that's in the kernel? Have they released the little details, or are they allowing the kernel developers to just go on their merry way and keep building a better kernel that at some time in the future they can pull a claim on?
big mess, combining copyright with patents. hey, why can't nvelists claim a patent on their unique novel they write? What's the diff? a novel is something written that's designed to invoke a feeling, it "does something", even if it's entertainment. So? A patent is a claim that you invented something new and unique and it has to do something. What's the difference?
That's why software patents are a business scam and an absurdity.
Anyway, what does IBM "own" in the kernel that everyone is supposed to not worry about? Shouldn't it be removed as quickly as possible if it exists?
--the lawsuit could still be there. Given relativity, all crimes are committed in the past when it comes to the justice system. You could promise to the nice trooper you will never speed again, and currently you are sitting on the side of the road at rest, not speeding at all,but you'll still probably get the ticket.
There's statutes of limitation laws, big variable there though. I don't know what if any of them apply to patents, copyrights or to contractural disputes. I don't think much if any though, if you did it in the past and it was illegal then and they call you on it and can prove it in court, you lose.
--exactly what you think and know, it's the kernel proper by a dictionary, and it also is the commonly used geek term for linux operating systems built around the kernel. It's both in modern parlance.
example with linux in a modern casual sense:
"hey man,nice screen there, whatcha running?" "moz on linux" "OK"
I'll repeat what I said, IBM is being coy and cute. The argument is, they need their patent portfolio for MAD in case someone else threatens them, etc. they then claim they sorta promise to nevah evah sue the linux kernel. they are being specific, I was pointing it that dude saying what he said still left a lot of "linux-dom" hanging out with it's pants around it's ankles. It's because of what he DIDN'T say that I assert this.
I call shenanigans, if the "weapon" of the software patent didn't exist in the first place, there would be no need for them-or any other large IT place- to accumulate their "arsenal portfolio" in their MAD scenario. But they are. It's because they dig on monopolies, either small ones or medium ones or large ones or all of the above. It's just reality, and that's what they are used to, and the opposite theory is still too new and scary to them to consider seriously yet. They *sort of* understand free and open source, but the full realities of it are not making it all the way to the ultimate decsiion they would have to make. Baby steps at it, sure, they are doing that, full adult strides, no, and we just heard from one of their honchos that this is as far as they will go now, an oral promise which means absolutely zero legally that they won't sue "the kernel".I call on them to REALLY put up or shutup on it.
IBM is a huge multibillion dollar corporation, has flocks of lawyers and lobbyists and oodles of cash. Yet, they are not doing the *true* right thing in embracing free and open source by lobbying via the traditional way of getting some congress people to sponsor a bill to outlaw software patents. They are play acting at full support. they are offering bare minimum support, and that's it. It's more than "no" support, but it is not "full" support, and I feel justified in pointing that out. I don't care how large a half way support is, it's still half-way.
I hope they alter and do the right thing, I am not thinking they are going to do it though.
At some time in the futre, given ALL of todays trends,not just picking out a few and basing your decsion on that, but looking at the total big picture, "linux" as the operating system built around the kernel will be 0wnz0rz by a few big corporations. There might be some attempts at forks, etc, but given the nature of patents and big business, make no mistake, they want to own it eventually, with whatever legal techniques make the most sense to them at the time and they won't give a care in squahsing small guys, they never have in the past and won't hesitate in the future.. meanwhile, they will take all the free stuff they can get, and yes, give back some, but not the important *some* which are the patents.
If I am wrong, swell! I got no probs being wrong, I hope I am in this case, especially on a future prediction. All you can do is look at past actions, add in current reality, then do the best job you can on extrapolation. I have a pretty fair long term multiple decade track record on futurisms, not perfect, but better than a coin toss on a lot of subjects, merely using that simple technique and being cool on gathering data points from all directions. Just normal modeling, nothing special, just my little gig I do. I don't code, I do this.
When IBM and other large international powerful IT corporations start openly and publically lobbying for elimination of software patents and freely give them up for all to use, I'll believe they support FOSS, until then, nope, I'll call shenanigans and advise people to watch them, and to be making seriouscontingency plans based around the realities of existing patents..
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freestate project is a good idea, but they picked an expensive state to move to. If they had picked vermont right next door,with similar pricing, etc, they would at least have started with a pure second amendment state. Or if they had picked maine, it would have been more attractive from a "move there and afford it" standpoint. And if they had picked a western state, they would have had an installed base of a lot of the rural people who have gotten shafted over and over again from the federal government and would maybe have been more comfortable with outsiders moving in to help out with fighting the feds--maybe, not sure on that one.
All he said was the kernel. Onbe word, covers only a part of what is going on now. That leaves distro releasers/developers, and all the other aspects that go into an OS that are still an open target for future actions.
Don't trust them. Use them as they are using "you", but never,ever trust them.
If IBM and the other big companies that are currently "embracing open source" were SERIOUS about it, they would be using their flocks of lawyers and lobbyists to try and get the copyright and patent laws changed-and they aren't.
Actions or words, two different things
How long? As long as his handlers wanted him to stay there I guess. With the emergency war powers act and various other executive orders and states of emergency in effect now, they have no need for any elections or any more pretending. Read the "model states health emergency powers act" I think it's called. Pretty much outlines exactly they plan on doing. If I got the name a smidgen wrong it's still close enough to google for it. Basically-don't count on any "elections" unless you mean like when kim il dung has "elections".
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What we have now is just showtime for the peeps to keep them amused and not really dwelling on the fact they are *living in a controlled police state.* the party is over and it's been over for quite a while now, they just need to let everyone down e-a-s-y because there's still a lot of armed folks out there. They got to go slow with it, but it's pretty much on shed-ule like the brits say. It gives the "political action" folks something to do and feel all "activist" about. They keep thinking they are going to "vote" their way back to freedom and prosperity for all and sundry.
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I think the goons are just waiting for a bit more of a scared population to *beg* for "security measures" before they do it. "Ohh mee ohhh my, plz sav us frm de tarists!" stuff. The boiling frog approach applied to the hegelian dialectic.
You had one congressman starting to make serious waves, poof, he went to club fed, you had one senator making waves, poof, his plane fall down go boom. You had all of them getting sorta antsy, poof, US army stamp of approval brand anthrax mailed to selected pols and media types, poof, you got homeland security passed. You had one pretty strange airplane attack, poof, patriot act.
Pretty much scripted and easy to see. Right now they are giving all the cops "seekrit info and intel" about all the al cia-keda bad guys, etc, getting them onboard, making them get all puffed up and macho about it. And to throw them a bone,to get them all in good statist order, they just passed the "all cops can now be armed" act, even retired cops-who are just plain old civvies in reality- can now carry concealed wherever they want to go, no restrictions. Voice vote that one passed. They are now ubercitizens for life, an exalted "special" class, trashing the equal protections deal with the constitution. They are all digging on that action, no doubt.
... a MUCH better deal on my next box and Tv if I bought it from some crackheads out the back of a van someplace with no paperwork for cash. The thing is, why would I want to do that?
Some folks don't want to deal with MS in any manner from a very simple easy to understand concept --> THEY ARE CROOKS AND NOT NICE PEOPLE AND THEY WILL STAB YOU IN THE BACK EVENTUALLY.
Other people think it's OK,so that's their lookout then.
There's an old saying that fits "lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas".
Have fun scratching!
yes, I know that, but I think in the future it will be outlawed or changed radically. They will complain that the "tarists" and porno traders and movie and song traders are using "encrypted anonymous wireless access points" and then do something about it. I don't know what technically they will do, but they will certainly try. It6's coming and here in a lot of cases already, every day we see more and more restrictions and lawsuits, still on my home page here is that dvd-copy place got put out of business, and that is fairly innocuous as things go. Big business and it's siamese twin government just don't want YOU to have encryption and anonymous this or that, and they got the gold and the guns, so they gonna get what they want, and turn thee and thou and me and you into "outlaws" suitable for...well, what happens to detainees lately.
I just got done reading several articles in a row over linux and patents and big business intentions. Go back to big blue, this is a quote, they "aren't contemplating any lawsuits against THE KERNEL". Still leaves quite the room for lawsuits against other folks though, don't it?
I'll say it again, don't trust global corporations ~governments, they will stab you in the back when it suits them. In the meantime they will rip you off for your brains and sweat until you are no longer useful to them, then f-f-f-ft! Cut you, bad.
And you moz developers doing MS work for them-no big boo hoo hoo crocodile tears when they shaft you, and they will, it's coming. This is serious clinical psychological *denial* to not see it. You really need to know who your friends are, and who your enemies are, and not live in fantasy land. Leopards do NOT change their spots.
yes, it would mean that, and if p2p and alleged "terrorist" and kiddie pornographers completely take advantage of anonymous wifi and various things like that I expect them to outlaw the encryption and unhackable access in various forms. I wouldn't put it past them to eventually require a unique access IP to be tied to a named human, at all times.
Governments are weird and will go to some lengths and spare no expense (all the money is theirs, they just let you use some of it when they want to) to enforce police actions of any sort once they set their collective minds to it. Look at merre olde englande, roving vans to catch people receiving unpaid-for "illegal" TV broadcasts. Geez, look at what is happening in china now and some other places, and who is in the thick of enforcing any amount of government surveillence and censoring and control-good old 'merkin based globalist corporations, all the name brand guys. Look who owns the implantable human tracker microchip, the one called "digital demon" in slang terms- "friendly open source"IBM.
I have no doubt the future will be forced global big brother,massive scale, with little differences between so called nations and global big business, the lines are blurring daily. We are just "human resources" to governments and global bigcos, to buy and sell and command and control, and to do that, they want to track their inventory-to surveil- and to monitor and to enter into databases what their inventory is doing. Encryption, "free" P2P, etc falls well outside those efforts, so eventually they will be outlawed entirely. Look at the proposals for mandatory blackboxes in the cars, and charging a per mile tax/fee will be one day behind that one. Internal passports-coming soon to a checkpoint near you. Newspeak in the media,and don't go against them, lest you become an untermenschen "detainee" and lose any remnants of human-ness.
We are in the "wild wild west" days of the net right now, a few years from now, I don't think it will exist like it does currently. The handwriting, as they say, is on the wall. Free and open and uncensored communication with "the masses" guy is the biggest threat global corporate government faces, so.... they will deal with it whatever it takes.
How many people predicted 3 years ago the sally and molly kidpack were going to get sued for song trading? I know I did, and got roundly accused of tinfoil hat-itis, because "no one is ever going to sue normal small time end users". Got told that a lot of times.
Oh well
There's ways to still communicate semi securely, and the ones who need to do it will do it, but universally? As soon as it gets just a scosh easier and more prevalent so as to start to threaten to become commonplace, expect a rather severe crackdown and smackdown.
sounds like a variation INITIATOR on the old YELLOWCAKE mr. subliminal style RYDER TRUCK keywords ECHELON to waste various governments HALIBURTON time and bandwith.
Side issue, but I have it one step removed from the puzzle palace guys that they had various "offshore" web based "shhhhh!-mail types" encrypted email services cracked quite a long time ago.
It's a gray area. On the ham bands-"radio" in general, encryption is technically illegal. I've been waiting for them to rule thusly on wireless computer applications. So far, it doesn't appear to be, but give it time and it probably will be "ruled" that it is.
I think you are minimalizing the influence of "others", the non professionals, on internet publishing in general. and it's also a numbers game, writing and being published in a manner is now open to all, it is no longer limited to the professional "elite", and these same are still coming to grips with that reality. No matter how well educated and technical one is, there could very well be several people better who might read and comment on your writing and conclusions.
As to "news", no matter how much the mainstream corporate propoganda media arms might report on a subject, there might be several other real time points of view and observations on the same topic. For instance, I read frequently on western press websites about the fighting in iraq, then I go read it from a pro "insurgents" point of view. Well, on their side they are freedom fighters repelling a foreign invader, they aren't "insurgents". The same battles read quite differently sometimes, and even the facts are reported differently, such as actual wounded and killed, armor destroyed and how,etc. And look how much the "approved" media still will report outright lies without much comment and act as tools, the fake fat osama video is a good example, the TWA 800 shootdown is another. No better than rote parrots, almost the lot of them in the professional reporters guilds.
The internet IS busting up the older ways of doing things and eliminating the closed nature of reporting and writing in general. It will take some time to shake out, but it is similar to when printing presses became common, all of a sudden a lot more people could be heard from, the good and the bad and the mediocre. We are getting the same now, and attrition will negate consistently "bad" reporting and writing eventually. I DO know I'm getting some good writings from non mainstream "media" types, essential good information which is critical to know and think about. If I had to rely entirely on just a few large media outlets, it would be as skewed as it ever was, speaking as a serious news junky since the 50s. There have been very few non co-opted mainstream "journalists", print or broadcast in the US-very few.
As to slashdot, the articles are read here,by some smart people, it is relatively easy to skim over trivial and troll posts and get to some decent meat on your plate. Or have you forgotten "the slashdot effect"? That wouldn't happen and wouldn't exist as a commonly used phrase here if people weren't clicking over to the reference URL.
You cannot come to a full conclusion without accepting the full set of data, just picking and choosing and seeing things in an absolutist fashion based on incomplete acceptance of the data available is, at least, disingenuous.
--you are correct. I watched it on the TV. Nixon had refused makeup and looked grayed out, that was part of why he apparently "lost" the debate. The other part was just that JFK was a very eloquent speaker compared to him (IMO).
in georgia after you allegedly "vote" with the diebold machines they give you a VERY interesting sticker to wear that day. It says "I voted". It's a picture of the computer itself voting, not a human being.
I think it's a very appropriate use of symbology to illustrate exactly what happened, especially the 2002 election, way too many "miracle" race results that defied all the pre and post polling odds.
Anyway, I think the point is moot, sometime soon they are gonna pull off another phony terrorist attack, a really big one, and drop any pretense of actually having a representative government.
... in some states. The R and D parties have passed laws that make it ludicrous to try and get a third party or independent candidate actually listed on the ballot. It varies, some states are incredibly difficult, some are just annoying. And you combine that with the collusion of big money mainstream media having a virtual lock out of any news on third partys and independents, you have in essence a hijacked government, controlled almost completely by two DEFINETLY for-uber-mega-profit organizations.
Anyway, with this article, I still think computerised voting is totally unnecessary, we just plain don't need it, don't need the cost, it is BILLIONS of dollars nationwide, we don't need computers to add simple sums at the precinct level,so just say *no*, no open source, no closed source, no source at all.
Some things computers are good for, others are an expensive hindrance. "Ohh shiny" and "we are in the computar age" don't cut it, computerised voting is "gadgets for gadgets sake", and someone's profits for the hardware and software, not because it's needed. Voting results should be reviewable with any set of biological eyeballs, anything else will be blackbox voting. It's bad enough with the stupid mechanical machines, we don't need anything beyond paper and pen, and a locked wooden box with a slit in the top to receive the ballots, and that's it.
Want to make it more fair? Institute at least a 24 hour voting period, and do the "ranking" method of voting, and have a "no one" option as well.
if I go to a site where I don't want to register (vast majority of them),I *don't*, I don't even use any phony info, I just skip it, and they lose a potential viewer and customer maybe, but I WOULD check off a few boxes indicating any type of ads that I wouldn't mind having on the page. I'm a normal guy, some gadgets and services interest me, I *might* go visit some companys webpage from an ad, just not ads that have zero relevance. Let ME pick, then you don't have to guess! Just give me a quick list to scan, I make my selections, then poof on to the content. No registering needed then, no cookies needed, no transfer of email address, no hard feelings.