... I have no idea outside the surface level of what the government wants, but I can assume a logical extrapolation. They have grant and research money by the bucketful, so two mil, while a *lot* is around chump change to the government. Next was they want something, these "computers" seem to be catching on, so "spooky" type places would want them to be "secure". So they look around, see what's on the market, they find openBSD. So great, they like what they see, BUT, government, having all the loot they want, has a lot of multi processor machines, which means their toy won't run on them well yet. Solution is what governments always do, throw some money at it. And because of licensing, they chose a bsd over a gpl product or over a closed source eula like they have been, because even at the plodding levels governments crawl at, even they can see the thousands of eyeballs looking method works better, more "bang for the buck".
The facts remain: As far as rallys and protests go, those against the war are far less attended than those who support the war. [glennbeck.com] Poll after poll after poll [washingtonpost.com] has shown an overwhelming support for the President and the war. The war protestors are in a clear minority, are being dealt no injustice, and want to circumvent the political process with violence and economic disruption. This should be very illegal. All of these protests you mentioned were heald because there was no other way of correcting an injustice. The law-breaking done by anti-war protestors is the result of a minority wanting to write foreign policy, undermine the current elected government, and force the will of the minority on the rest of the people. That's the difference.
Facts? Propaganda pushed by a small cabal of high ranking public and private people to distort, deny and obfuscate some of the origins of the 9-11 attacks, to keep some of the high level involvement by white guys in suits out of the US consciousness as much as possible? We are supposed to ignore the evidence that exists that show this? Facts like both saddam and osama are creations of and funded by these same people? That the KLA we armed, trained and supported was just another example of a narco terrorist gang being used as mercenaries, and that these people were in fact "al queda bad guys"? We are supposed to reward the people and shadowy political/military/industrial groups who armed and supported and trained the various "terrorists" we are fighting now? We are supposed to ignore the fact of trillions of dollars and mass political command and control as being part of the over-all big picture? Past overwhelming evidence of high level scams and lies being used to nudge nations into actions?
The hegelian dialectic is alive and well, and is part of the new "war on everything" which means the very rights we are supposedly "protecting" in the middle east are now seriously being trampled on and denied to the US people. Exactly how dumbed down are some of us supposed to go? Is there a bottom cut off limit anyplace?
Yes, the polls do indeed indicate a majority of the US people are not aware of any of that reality and awreness and information, and that they can be easily swayed with jingoism and advanced and sophisticated advertising. I am not lauding that as some sort of proof or something to be proud of, in fact, I am seriously embarrased over my own nations over-all level of awareness and sophistication.
Yes, osama and saddam are some serious badguys, no argument there. I think first we should prosecute the white guys in suits who armed and supplied them for years, to expose all the evidence, not just bits and pieces of the evidence that "they" want us to be focused on, then we can show the world the US is both honest and righteous again. Go to war then if needs be, do it legally and according to our real laws, but not before then.
Do that, and do it honestly, you'll see "the polls" reflect a slightly different set of "beliefs".
The URLs for all I have said and allude to have been posted repeatedly on slashdot, no need to repost them. Even a simple google search on "government prior knowledge, 9-11" or similar will take you to any number of places that have the evidence, said evidence not being shown to the US public in any meaningful way. There are deliberate lies, and lying by omission, those "polls" show what happens when both those techniques are used on a mass scale against a targeted audience.
You want a war against the "badguys", I can agree. Before that war though let's do a bit more "uncovering" of some basic truths, and not go off half cocked in reichstagg induced mania version 2.0. Let's not stop looking at just people who speak arabic and farsi, let's keep looking at people who speak american english, british english, russian, chinese, hebrew and yiddish, german, french, spanish and so on, at whatever level it takes, and let the chips fall
--civil disobedience has an honored and checkered past, both of those things. The civil rights movement as a recent example. Under these new laws, you would have needed to put millions of people into "camps". Would that have been correct? Which was truly the larger crime, millions of people victimized for generations by government, or some of the protests they did? The beginnings AND the end of liquid drugs-alcohol-prohibition were accompanied by mass protests that at times "blocked the streets". Arrested those millions, 25 to life? Women's suffrage for the vote, so they actually could be represented in a representative republic (it's not a democracy in the US in theory). US veterans after ww1 camping out in washington DC, "blocking" this or that as they strove for anything, any scraps, to ease them through the depression. Lots of examples, would we put all those people in camps from 25 years to a life sentence? You would, because they blocked your street in a protest? Or breaking a window? Hmm, I am thinking, say i was some black guy way back then, I am told I can't vote, even though the law says I can, I know i can be caught in the white side of town and beat up or lynched, even by members of the government, and no one will care. personally, I would have thought stronger things than just marrching and breaking glass were in order, thnakfully millions more just took it, kept it to a more civil manner, and shamed millions of other americans into finally admitting that perhaps they had a point or two to make. Was it really all that wrong?
Now , conversely, why is it "legal" that 50,000 people are "allowed" to completely "block traffic" and generally screw it up at all the surrounding streets at professional sports stadiums? Because there's money involved? Suppose you don't like that sport or team, suppose that you have business, need to get someplace, and just wish to get from point A to B across town, but the roads are hoplessly blocked artifically? I happen to like individual sports of some kinds, but I detest team sports, professional or (ha ha) non professional college team sports. Can't tell ya how many times I have been blocked by those yahoos. Oh, the diofference is they never get drunk and stupid and violent and trash cars and stores over a freaking ball game? Hmm, well, yes they do a lot of times. How exactly then is that different? Under this new law, 25 to life for the entire crowd at the stadium under the oregon law, re-read the fine print in that thing again, it's in there. Or some concert, pick any genre, just the big crowds, again, artifically blocking somone's "way", and definetly planned and organized in advance,a "conspiracy" if you will, but still, a hassle if you don't want to participate and just be on your way? What gives them the right to do that, to subvert government, impede others business and travel, and get away with it? Oh ya, "money", the organizers pay bribes or "permits" to the government so that they can infringe on my rights, but see, with the bribe it's "legal" then, and a lot of people think it's cool, but a lot more DON'T, but the blocking still occurs, yes? How about when some bogus fatcat VIP and his equally bogus entourage have the roads blocked so they can cruise by in their Limos? Is that "legal" to do? It happens, why is that not "blocking the normal traffic"?
The reason why mass "civil" disobedience needs to be tolerated occassionally is, even if that particular action is not one of anyone "yours" pet peeves, is quite simple, it's usually about the last straw for redress of grievences that some x-huge numbers of people have after exhausting all other normal legal avenues to be heard,when "the vote" and letters to the editor and haranguing their reps and yada yada just plain hasn't worked, and them desiring to become "unvictimized" or for some other reason of serious import. This "civil disobedience" comes as the last step before before mass "uncivil" disobedience occurs, as a general historical note of data. Look around the world, places tha
... byte me anonymous dough boy. Yes, I DO a lot more than "just rant", and have done so for years. In fact, marching in demos is something I DON'T do, and haven't since a long time ago. I quit marching when I witnessed a group of cops kill someone, a kid they pulled at random out of the crowd, they gang stomped him to death by kicking in his body until he was a mass of blood and gore. They got completely away with it. They were laughing when they did it. I went as far as a personal interview with the lieutenant governor of my state over that one, the end result was nothing happened about it.
And yes, you can say I am "anti" that sort of "government".
--those documents have no relevance to reality anymore. The executive, judicial and legislative branches ignore them, they are almost completely corrupt and compromised now, the cops and military just take and follow orders, any orders. We have a theoretical constitutionally based representative republic, in reality, we have a totalitarian technofuedalistic autoaucracy that is a blend of socialism and corporatism, that runs on crimes, bribery, blackmail, state organized "terror" and massive bureaucratic malfeasance and indifference.
There are so many examples it's a waste of time to list them. We have millions of people who already can read, they are fully aware of the concepts contained,they even go so far as to get arested to challenge laws, and it's a complete dismal failure for the most part. We don't have the critical mass numbers of those sorts of people. When the "fix is in" to the extent it is now,and with the levels of apathy we have and the obvious demonization efforts and mass psyops being used, there's nothing short of using number 4 in the list of "boxes" we have to effect any meaningful change. I'm sure you know which that "box" is, the list that starts with "the soapbox".
I am cynical and pessimistic of this nation changing to anything but "more" big brotherism. If there was even a 10% drop in the amount of money, time and effort put into entertainments like fictional TV, movies, music, sports, videogames, etc and put into honest awareness rising and activism,and if millions of people would just shun either working for "the man" or would engage in a universal massive "no" saying to illegal and unethical orders and edicts when they are given, then maybe, perhaps, but I have seen no reductions in that after watching and being a political activst for just at 4 decades now. Next year I'll hit my 4th decade exactly from when I started actually working politics and various issues as a major part of my life. In fact I'd say there's LESS activism and awareness now then back then, even with the tremendously easy ways we have to communicate and get information now. And the various so called laws passed recently, based on extremely coincidental reichstagg events timing? And the level of intrusive and manipulative technology available to governments,with any numbers of intelligent people perfectly willing to sell, maintain and profit from them, and their accumulated and planned accumulations of advanced and exotic weaponry along with just a massiveincrease in conventional weaponry they have spread out to police departments all over, and their obvious perfect willingness to use these devices and their human mercenary "assets"? Nope, I'm extremely pessimistic.
I'm not saying I have personally given up, but I will say I am heavy into what is in essence a plan B now, just personal survival basically, and I have been for around 6 years even moreso than in the years previous to that,and have been waiting for the second shoe to drop. We are one major so called "foreign terrorist" attack away from it being all over when it comes to ANY so-called born-with personal soverign freedoms or ANY honesty in government. And that second shoe drop could come this very year in my estimation.
...I hear ya on the unpracticality of it now with most vehicles. Some sort of "easier" config would be practical within weight and needed power and ruggedness obviously, like you have pointed out.
heh, and I'm certainly old enough to remember solid steel cars with full frames, all my earlier vehicles were like that. Hmm, 3 out of 4 that I own now are STILL like that, ha! I was at one time really considering modding a vw bus I had, use like a rabbit front wheel drive for "normal" driving around, then put some detroit v-8 in the rear. Never did it, but certainly thought about it. Mostly money at the time and not owning a garage and where I lived. I compromised by doing a full rebuild with bigger jugs and all the cheaper doodads.
sleepers, too funny, I like that dual engined one you mentioned, sounds cool. Last couple years I lived with my folks was in a suburb of detroit in the 60's, saw lotsa nice cars, that were then made *much nicer*. Friend of mine had a comet, with a SOHC ford cobra 427 he squeezed in, that was sorta quick, real ratty body, etc. I don't remember exactly but seems like it ran low 11's. Too many fast cars to remember now. Hmm, another friend had a falcon with a 289 with wicked nasty compression, 14:1. that moved right along. You'll like this with your handle, got an aquaintance of mine down here in georgia, for like YEARS he lived in this really cheap apartment thing built over a nice big garage he rented. He accumulated daytonas and superbirds and parts while they were still cheap, just kept putting his money into them. He had *plenty* of them. Finally one day he gets engaged, he took ONE of them and sold it and took the money and paid cash for a house, a nice house. He's still building hotrods and doing custom work last I talked to him, several years ago now.
The manhattan institute is a front organization, one of many, and think tank for the globalists, those new world order advocates who want a global two class society, masters and serfs. I term them as being technofuedalists. You can use google to find out more about them, here is one url with some background as to the founding of the place, who's involved with them, and some of their other beliefs. There are many more, this one has some decent background though. More or less they engage in sophisticated psyops to promote their agendas of global governance and dominance.
If anyone cares to check out the elaborate misues of federal police agencies, judges, investigators, intelligence agencies with witness intimidation, false arrest, coercion, then using completely falsified "science" to "prove" on television what they said happened to the people on flight TWA 800 . Initially government with all sorts of junk voodoo science "proved" that twa 800 had a center fuel tank explosion then they at first claimed that it automagically lost it's forward part of the fuselage then climbed 3000 feet, and etc, lie, etc. Elaborate staged dog and pony show. Well, the court cases now are going forward, government is basically pleading nolo to massive fraud and deceit and covering up a delibarate attack on the plane. The full details aren't in yet, but they almost got away with it, even to the point of throwing journalists in jail over it.
Lying scumbags. Same as they are elaborately lying over the 9-11 attacks.
There's a CONSTANT assault on freedoms and the truth out there, it's being done by these globalists and their minion government drones and places like these "think tanks". Wheels within wheels. It's not a conspiracy "theory" once it's proven to exist, after that, it's a matter of finding out how extensive it is, and working to counteract what they do, even as simple a thing as like me dropping this post here. These globalists are some dangerous and foul people. Heinous really. A good rule of thumb is to assume the exact opposite of what this person at the manhattan institute says. Governments-the US or anyone's - will use ALL technology they can get their hands on to collect files and data on everything they can, to frame people, to cover up crimes they have committed, to commit any other crimes they feel like, to manipulate people and events, etc, right up to globally in scale. And another good rule of thumb is to just acknowledge that "laws" only apply to the serfs, the master race globalists have little of any laws that apply to them, that's how they think and operate. They are neoroyalty, technofuedalists. They have been, are, and will contintue to, accumulate as much data on "you" as they can get, to be used for their purposes of command and control. And yes, you should be very afraid of what they will do with that data.
I get it! In other words, these new "music slots" are money! Just like gold and silver coin, screwy paper bank "notes", Food Stamps, my two-fer-one grocery coupons, old clam shells, shiny beads, and gold pressed latinum? Cool!
Can see them being traded and quoted and charted on Yahoo finance right now.
...and these are the same official police statisticians and PR people who report when their "dynamic undercover investigational multi jurisidctional task force" compadres "seize a quantity of dangerous drugs to get them off the streets and fight tarism", and then in the vid on the TV they show like two bags of boo and call it 528,000$ "street value"? Them guys?
heh heh heh everyone has seen THAT dodge before on the teevee.
D.A.R.E to take basic math is what them dudes need.
No idea on "numbers of protesters" reported, while they "guarded the community". I would be more interested in hearing them estimate how many "crooked lying CEOs and politicians" they bagged on a daily basis instead of constantly PROTECTING them like they do now.
Just like milosevich's cops in yugo when he was finally deposed, the last people to get hip to what's going down and to "protect the people" were the cops. Never fails.
Worst waste of police protection and military protection right now? Not saddam, not the shrub, nope, it's those mercenary bozos guarding the Bilderburger Group meeting scheduled for Versailles, France soon. They could save millions of lives across the planet and trillions of dollars from being stolen by arresting whomever is giving them orders and all the people at that meeting. They would be global heroes, instead, they'll cash their normal check with some overtime. whoopedy zing.
--rather have a modular vehicle, be able to upgrade, change configuration, power plant, etc, readily. Sedan to pickup to SUV to sally soccer mom minivan, and etc. Buy "a chassis" that you keep forever, have several easily swapped bodies and whatnot for different purposes, make the engines/drivetrains whatever easy to upgrade or change for a specific purpose, have it so the vehicles electronics-the "dash" be modular as well, plug and pray. You never have to junk the whole thing, nor buy an entire new one. We had a thread on this before, it's a nifty idea.
--I don't see this as being inline with "art" per se, those sorts of artists who are into that would use what is already available, if they went that route, and it's already quite controversial in that respect..quite....
Now I CAN see an immediate practical use for this, distributing digital audio/video/stills of a political and sensitive nature. And like perhaps that example the other day, the doctored war photo that got that guy fired. Well, bad example because he did it HIMSELF, but along those lines. Say the original photographer or videographer, transmitting the image(s)or audio from a remote place, he could use this, to make sure his work wasn't altered by someone else, as in get intercepted, doctored, and then used for an agenda of some sort.
...I just know they are. They are alive, and have personalities. It's spooky. I used to have this old raggedy sportscar. Loved it. Was fun. It had a personality, and was aware of it's surroundings. If I had nice clothes on, it would break someplace, I'd have to get out and get greasy and fix it. If I had old clothes on, it would run like crazy. The worst was going out on a date, it was terrible. Nice clothes on, go to pick up the girl, it wouldn't even start again then. It was jealous or something, like christine!
Another time I worked a coupla years part time in a gun shop, I fixed mostly air rifles, crossmans, benjamins, etc, that was my speciality. Can't tell you how many times some guy would bring in something "broken", I'd pick it up, pump it up, it would work fine. Not all the time but a lot of times. We had a small steel bunker thing in the back where fixed guns got test fired before returning to customer. I'd shoot it,it would work good. Hand it back to the customer, it wouldn't work. Hand it to some other employee, it wouldn't work. Hand it to the boss, he couldn't get it to work. I'd pick it up again, shoot it, it would work fine. There is NO rational explanation for that, it's just not that hard of a piece of machinery to operate. I've heard this from good shop mechanics a lot, sometimes they can't reproduce a customer's complaint when they go test drive the car for the preliminary analysis. Customer can then drive it, it has the glitch. Back and forth. Weirdness, but I have heard this observation from several mechanics now, usually they are the very good ones.
So ya, I think the machines will eventually get a collective consciousness and go nuts like in terminator.
OR, humans actually DO have some still unknown way that they can influence what we call "inanimate objects", beyond what what we consider the "normal" ways, and we just don't have adequate science for it yet.
--yes,thanks, I've been reading their stuff, but I wouldn't say they are completely non partisan. They are pro iraq obviously, but what they are writing does appear to be of a more sophisticated nature, goes beyond some of the fluff pieces I've seen, and isn't pulling any punches on either side as to wins/losses/capabilities, etc..
I am pro-US troops and pro Iraqi civilians. I hope the iraqis themselves would just do what needs to be done to get themselves a better government, according to THEIR wishes, not ours or england's or israel's or france's or russia's or china's.
We got no leg to stand on morally when less than 50% of the people here in the US even vote, or can even name their own representative, but they can rattle off the names on their bogus "team". It's disgusting.
I "support our troops" to come home, immediately, and I'd like to see that war money to go to help take care of all the vets we ALREADY HAVE FROM PAST WARS, the gulf war one vets, nam vets, korea vets, ww2 vets, etc, instead, who have been mostly ignored. And I'd like to see a lot of top governmental "leaders" exposed and convicted for selling WMD to anyone, anyplace, anytime. and I REALLY want the true nature of the 9-11 attacks independently investigated, and the ones involved with white skin and suits on charged as well. This so called "9-11 investigation" is a warren commission whitewash, you can smell it coming. I have just learned that at least one of the 9-11 victims relatives read off the list of evidence showing massive government prior knowledge and involvement,item after item after item, and she got greeted with SILENCE by those bozos running that so called "investigation".
This government is a junta, and it's obvious that 9-11 was a reichstagg event that was allowed to happen, and now used to finalize some goon technofuedalistic takeover. They didn't take into account that we have the internet now, and can't pull off another kennedy assassination coverup forever. It's the same guys or their sons in the criminal shadow government pulling this stuff off now. There's names, dates, events, that aren't going away, eventually we'll see some real justice, IF we can get the beer swilling rah rah rah cheerleading brownshirts to just stop it with the war as a football game and step back and take a real honest look at the evidence.
--maybe not, but just in case, this is for the people here in other countries who might think it's all lock step goose steppers here based on those phony polls they run. I'm a "constitutionalist" now, well, call myself that, because those goons running the political show have sullied the term "conservative", I have been one for 4 decades (close) now, the difference is, I don't believe in murder, theft and crooked international business intrigue as a means to an end like the goons are doing now. Bill O'Reilly and goofballs like Michael Savage and gasbag Rush to psyops Limbaugh aren't real classic american conservatives. They are dangerous huckstering fascists, big time wrestling comes to news and commentary, paid off goons. They are part of whipping up the war and "terror" hysteria now in anticipation of the creation of the new Brownshirts, version 2.0., to go along with Patriot Act and Homeland Security and whatnot.
It's a junta, so I'll just call it that. Junta. And the brownshirts are coming, inevitable now.
The new (sorta) term for them is "neoconservative". That is too polite a term, IMO. I prefer fascist goons. Lying Thugs is good too. Real US conservatives are much more inclined to be isolationists/non interventionists when it comes to foreign military adventures, it's just now, with neocon fascists "in power" in the administration, they have hijacked the term "conservative". And there's a large percentage of the population, not a majority by any means but still large, who don't have much public voice, but are both conservative, patriotic, non war mongering, and aren't faked out by those goons, they just aren't in any leadership positions in the R party because they aren't crooks, and they certainly are in the minority in the mainstream US broadcast media, which now is a blend of neocon and naieve-brand liberalism. Sad but true. There is no "classical" Liberalism (which is a decent philosophy, more similar to what is called Libertarianism now) nor Old Fashioned conservatism or "paleoconservativism" (again, decent, different but still decent, tending to more protectionism,less "foreign entanglements", much smaller government, etc) represented, except mostly on the net and on shortwave and on forums.
With that said,politics aside, the photo altering story is a good headsup, along with the news anchors using phony backdrops and other sorts of digital altering techniques. Remember the bushgoon puppet-in-chief in front of the phony backdrop painted to look like "made in america" crates of product? That was another photo/video propaganda psyops move. I imagine some arabic sites and europaen sites are doing similar, too, it's just too easy to fake stuff now.
What's the quote? "In war, the truth is the first victim"
The photos are starting to be fake, the text has been highly altered and spun, constantly. All you need to do is use google news, pick any breaking story, look at a half dozen different versions of it from around the world. Altering just a few words and adding in a few choice trigger buzz words can spin the same exact story in several different directions. Example, this works both ways, from either side, just some examples on how this war gets reported: The "enemy" doesn't have "soldiers" they have "terrorists". The "badguys" are cheating and doing sneaky things that are "warcrimes", the "good guys" use special operations or commando techniques and pull off "specatacular and brave and daring raids".
And stuff like that there.
When I am reading the "war news" now, I take the very highs and the very lows from all the sources, and throw them away, then average the middle, that is most likely the closest to any sort of "truth" being reported.
...if it's good for the goose it's good for the gander. how about corporations incorporated in delaware, where all they are is a ledger entry, they don't exist there? Or how about all those whooper international corporations who move their "headquarters" to the bahamas, then do all their business in the US and other places, dodging serious taxes? Not seeing any "crackdown" on those obvious dodges. And that doesn't even count martini lunches and vacations disguised as business tripsand all those other bogus deductions, that joe worker can't take.
It's another scam, that's all the Patriot Act is. It's meant to terrorize people, everything about the patriot act is brave new world making everything about the constitution illegal, without messing with any constitutional conventions or judges. It's yet again even more laws so that eventually everyone is a criminal on paper, then they got you, you are a serf for the new world order technofuedalists. Whomever voted for it is a moron, or a coward, or a traitor as far as I am concerned. All three really. And I'm a classic constitutional conservative, just a normal freedom loving, stay outta my business I'll stay outta yours kinda guy, the difference is, I'm not a globalist fascist masquerading as a "conservative".
These guys running the government now are pure lying frauds. Phooie. War on poverty, trillions later, not much difference. War on drugs. phooie, trillions later, just as much drug use, it just made more crime. And it's never been any of their business anyway, isn't a hoots worth of difference in liquid drugs or dry drugs. Prohibition mistake version 2.0 on steroids. Phooie. Tax reform, phooie, so complicated you couldn;'t find two people to even agree on it, so complex and convulted and crooked it should be totaly scrapped. Campaign finance reform, phooie, just as easy to bribe them turkeys now as any other time. Now we got the new and improved hundred years war on "joe terrorist", all your rights suspended for the duration. triple phooie.
This government is run like a junta, looks like a junta, sounds like a junta, acts like a junta, it's anything but a "representative republic" anymore.
Paypal needs to move offshore, tell uncah creepy to stick it. I don't LIKE paypal, but I dislike the whole coercive hypocritical junta government even more, it just sucks. It used to be plain vanilla normal stupid, only corrupt to a point, now it's pure mafia evil bogus. I'm apologize man, it just is daily now, even almost hourly we see more evidence of how destroyed this nation has gotten. It sorta gets to me sometimes. It's freekin 1930's germany all over again. "Money laundering" what a crock, biggest money launderers in the nation are the federal reserve,and the other big banks, who pass bogus counterfeit debt "notes" and we get forced to use them. The mother of all rip off scams. "Gambling", can't have gambling! Gee, what's a bigger gamble,online gambling, or whizz off ONE BILLION PLUS PEOPLE with another war for profit wrapped in a flag they flat out stole.
you are correct. spices in general, not only for flavor, but for health reasons, are very beneficial.
Scientists-engineers, chemists, biologists, social scientists, economic scientists, are showing daily an amazing ability to keep proving some sets of human observations posted millenia ago in a book called "the bible". It's like -surprise-eating lots of fresh raw foods that haven't been dorked with by man in some fashion is basically good for you, and that it keeps you healthy. You can take it as "laws" passed on by God, or if an unbeliever,it's still quite practical, just look at it scientifically, is the modality more consistant than not, is it reproducable? It usually is, close enough for practicality purposes, follow the dietary laws you'll stay healthier. That will be another million buck research study grant, thankyou.
It works on governmental systems, economic systems, etc. Them old geezers might have talked funny and worn weird clothes, it didn't mean they couldn't look around and see a lot of "what just worked" and what didn't. You got to modify for today's times, but it's a good way to look at various problems initially, IMO.
--nice post. I totally agree on a world government ostensibly "for the people" but in reality run by rich elitists. Plenty of evidence for that now to see. Sounds like one of those "sounds medium OK in theory,but it'll never work" deals. I don't see any world government working either.
Would you care to expound more on the central issue? How would you attempt to regulate ICANN for the better? Or, abandon it to several internets? That would be more my choice. Granted, confusion and more than a little anarchy, but it's the way I can see it going in the future, more of several large multi content providers-something like super AOL type nets,pure commercial, you purchase packages from them, phone, entertainment, information, etc -Iactually see that coming pretty soon- then perhaps an "open source" freebie net or nets. Possibly another one based on always changing wireless and wired meshing networks as well,based around P2P and like bittorrent styled technolgies, so at least several different flavors of "nets", along with the VPNs of course.
Routing you would have to pick your range of DNS servers and protocols,as you surf and 'do stuff', perhaps new prefixes in the url? With perhaps only the major routing being some sort of standard, with IP traffic destination "interpreters" built in to translate these morphing and conflictive addresses?
Interested to hear your views on that topic in general.
You got it. You need to read this legislation in the light of all the other legislation out there, signed into law or proposed. A Police State needs for everyone to be a criminal on paper, to have that potential,to be able to use that against them. Look at oregons proposed policial demonstration law. Walk in the street in a demonstration, you are facing 25 years to life. Use a normal router, with how it normally works, you are a criminal. Go into patriot act 1 and now 2, which they are migrating to different other bills to get it passed. Misdemeanors can be classed as supporting terrorism. You really don't want to be classed as a terrorist. You can become an un-person very quickly, and it wouldn't be in there if they weren't planning on using it, even more extensively than they are now. The gestalt with computers in general is that computers allow anonymous and semi anonymous and easy communications for the average person. Police States don't like that.
This is REAL stuff in all our faces. You can't keep up with it now,laws, laws,laws and more new laws, daily. It's at the federal level and all the state levels, assaults against born-with rights, just being a normal person, are fully underway, it's not theoretical or tin foil hat. This article is an example of just another one. Add 'em all up. Pretty spooky.
Thanks for sending that letter, looking forward to see what they say, if you get a credible response.
..the exact same economic professionals who caused the great depression? The same guys who helped foster the great dotcom boom trillions of dollars congame ripoff? The same guys who are causing the US to go from the worlds largest creditor nation to the worlds largest debtor nation in only 20 years? The same guys who have helped create the largest upsurge in bankruptices in decades? The guys who are causing the US "dollar" to drop in international value on a daily basis almost? The ones who have almost single handedly destroyed vertical manufacturing in this nation, and are now doing it with the entire IT industry, the same industry that was supposed to automagically replace the lost manufacturing jobs? Those guys?
No thanks, they mostly suck. They are good at stealing money from millions of people on humongous levels. Very, very good at that. They are truly professional analysts at that, and they spend all their time figuring out exciting new ways to do that. On a small scale they are called frauds and bunco artists and get arrested and charged. On a large scale they are called the IMF and Wall Street and the Federal Reserve Bank.
..yes it works, it just leaves a more or less permanent toxic residue. There are alternatives to that now. I see no reason to not keep advancing and finding better alternatives for various practices. It's no different a concept than moving on to a faster computer, I mean your old 286 "worked" didn't it? Mine did, I choose to not use it any longer. Same with any discipline, yes?
Some older techniques are so good, that it's cool to keep them, others if viable alternatives exist, making them better/faster/cheaper, etc, and continuing R&D efforts should be adopted. Judgement call there. I don't see anything wrong with that.
Tubular, heh, thanks for the assumption
Last time I went surfing the board was made of wood. It was pretty big and heavy, but it "worked". I am thinking about it now,pretty funny really,it was late winter, and my cob job attempt at keeping warm without a wetsuit, using layers of wool was sort of a failure. heh heh heh shiversurfin. The boards are better now I hear tell.
--thanks for the tip! Looking at the innards of the vcr I had to start with, I saw that it wouldn't all fit in the bay, I was more interested if just the front slot loading could be accomplished. The biggest difficulty is that VHS tapes in VCRs all appear to load sideways, the width is too great, whereas if they loaded on-end it looks possible, as long as you have the room to the side of the bay area for the rest of the mechanism. The 8mm and DV tapes I have never used, so wasn't aware of how small they really were.
I wanted to do it with the vcr tape so that I could occassionaly watch movies via a capture card I have, and also to use the blank tapes for audio recording of long talk radio shows I pick up off netfeeds, without using any of the hard drive. The hard drive I use is very small, I mostly own all antique class computer equipment right now. I also am very cramped for physcial space here, like to have an all in one computer/media whatever rather than a lot of separate pieces of equipment. I will remember that compact camcorder tip! Good idea!
Most likely I will quit being such a tightwad and actually get a newer and much larger hard drive sometime. Besides that I just like fooling around with electronic junk, see what's possible with what I can scrounge and already have. I hate chucking out still good and functional stuff.
--didn't we have a story here about a complete PC that would fit in one of those size bays? That would seem a good thing to add. Like jello,there's always room for more! A "spare" PC could be used for any number of purposes, perhaps for your router or any other dedicated purpose you might not want to do constantly with the main mobo, etc.
Think a mini home rack system, or microrack.
One I was working on with my junk,one that is still sitting uncompleted of course with my other unfinished projects, would be some way to have a vcr in there, the slot appears just large enough to accept a VHS cartridge. I actually would like something like that. It looks easy enough if you cut the case and had it load out the side, I wanted it to be normal front slot loading, just like the cd and floppy. I was limited by only one spare vcr I would contemplate cannabilizing,and it just isn't designed correctly for the task, so I skipped that really, put it on hold for now, but maybe if you were to look around hard at used vcrs and find a different designed one that might fit better. The VCRs that come as a combo unit with the 12 VDC TVs look a lot more promising in initial design for that. We have one like that here, and when my girlfriend caught me eyeballing it and when I started mumbling about doing a project like that she goes NO YOU DON'T because it's sorta kinda technically her TV she watches, so.....
...based on cost and enthusiasm. I come from a 95% mac classic background. I wanted to segue into OSX, but the cost involved with upgrading both hardware massively plus the full price OS upgrade has held me back. Jobs might make good stuff, just too expensive now, for me anyway. So then I am reading about linux, and owning some older peecees, I tried it. it runs, I threw some more RAM in one machine, that's all it took cost wise to make it work perfectly fine. It's OK enough for pure GUI use, so the command line can be used and learned at your leisure. It wasn't near as intuitive(initially) as classic,nor apps as easy, but you get so many apps with a default install it doesn't matter, and close enough in point and click out of the box useability that it's quite practical.
I have also grown quite fond of the whole open and/or free software idea,I like the community spirit and philosophy, so to me it's just a mega extension of the shareware concept, just whole complete packages with the OS. It's "free" so you can jump around, try this or that,do some sampling, then to me it makes sense to settle in with what you like and start throwing some coins at the distro and your favorite apps of choice.
I still plan on trying OSX, but it's not a priority with me now like it was before, it'll happen whenever I luck into real cheap used hardware that will run it, until then, I like this stuff a lot. I do sincerely wish apple would release classic OS source to the world for *free*. What are they going to do with it now, sit on it? I bet there would be enough coders to keep interest up in it if it was possible. It would be a nice gesture, I doubt it would take all that much interest away from OSX so it wouldn't hurt them much, and really would be appreciated. I've found it's very difficult to get across to ex-windows users, well really I mean anyone who wasn't a dedicated classic user, how much classic people really liked what they had with classic, despite a few faults.
....in the US this is correct,for now at least, (I think we will be seeing a readjustment and a common sense averaging of the two environmental extremes soon), but that still leaves most of the rest of the world for such a project. Might be some poor nation someplace that would appreciate it, food and freshwater, and the skilled workers to come in and live there and work it as a co-op with the people already there. One project like this is what? One hour of war in cost? Something like that, probably way off but you know what I am saying. Hmm, maybe even practical in a non coastal but saline/desert area with a salt lake perhaps.
Now some israelis came up with a dandy low tech way to do this, to get freshwater in useful quantities for a useful purpose from salt water. They build deep asphalt pits, waterproof in other words. They are filled with rocks and gravel. They grow veggies at the surface level, using hydroponic methods of a sort. What happens is, they flood the bottom of the pits with normal salt water from the ocean. During the day/night heating and cooling cycle, the salt water starts to evaporate,hits the rocks up above where there's a temp difference, exaxctly where the plant roots are, the water droplets coalesce around the plant roots, feeding them fresh water. Excess water droplets either completely evaporate or drip back down in the pits. The pits are deep enough the plant roots don't make it down there to suck up salty water. They are occassionaly sprayed with a foliant based liquid fertiliser solution. Supposedly works quite well. Been several years since I read about it though, but that is the gist of the technique. I am a big fan of high tech thinking using low tech solutions whenever possible.
Oh well. I did hear one interesting and more-sane international tidbit. While zimbabwe is destroying their farms, and driving away their skilled farmers, mozambique is offering the same guys the red carpet treatment now, very cheap land, etc, to move there and start farms. Funny, too, both nations went through basically the same sort of "revolution", but one appears to have settled down into at least some sort of normalcy, while the other one has de-evolved into chaos. I don't know if that is from them being different past europaen nations influenced, england as opposed to portugal, or why, but it's happening.
There's so much GOOD tech out there now, wish we could make better use of it. Humans just got this "thing" for being predatory and confrotational I guess. I did read that book "the naked ape" by desmond morris a long time ago, guess he nailed a few things correctly.
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... I have no idea outside the surface level of what the government wants, but I can assume a logical extrapolation. They have grant and research money by the bucketful, so two mil, while a *lot* is around chump change to the government. Next was they want something, these "computers" seem to be catching on, so "spooky" type places would want them to be "secure". So they look around, see what's on the market, they find openBSD. So great, they like what they see, BUT, government, having all the loot they want, has a lot of multi processor machines, which means their toy won't run on them well yet. Solution is what governments always do, throw some money at it.
And because of licensing, they chose a bsd over a gpl product or over a closed source eula like they have been, because even at the plodding levels governments crawl at, even they can see the thousands of eyeballs looking method works better, more "bang for the buck".
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The facts remain:
As far as rallys and protests go, those against the war are far less attended than those who support the war. [glennbeck.com]
Poll after poll after poll [washingtonpost.com] has shown an overwhelming support for the President and the war.
The war protestors are in a clear minority, are being dealt no injustice, and want to circumvent the political process with violence and economic disruption. This should be very illegal. All of these protests you mentioned were heald because there was no other way of correcting an injustice. The law-breaking done by anti-war protestors is the result of a minority wanting to write foreign policy, undermine the current elected government, and force the will of the minority on the rest of the people. That's the difference.
Facts? Propaganda pushed by a small cabal of high ranking public and private people to distort, deny and obfuscate some of the origins of the 9-11 attacks, to keep some of the high level involvement by white guys in suits out of the US consciousness as much as possible? We are supposed to ignore the evidence that exists that show this? Facts like both saddam and osama are creations of and funded by these same people? That the KLA we armed, trained and supported was just another example of a narco terrorist gang being used as mercenaries, and that these people were in fact "al queda bad guys"? We are supposed to reward the people and shadowy political/military/industrial groups who armed and supported and trained the various "terrorists" we are fighting now? We are supposed to ignore the fact of trillions of dollars and mass political command and control as being part of the over-all big picture? Past overwhelming evidence of high level scams and lies being used to nudge nations into actions?
The hegelian dialectic is alive and well, and is part of the new "war on everything" which means the very rights we are supposedly "protecting" in the middle east are now seriously being trampled on and denied to the US people. Exactly how dumbed down are some of us supposed to go? Is there a bottom cut off limit anyplace?
Yes, the polls do indeed indicate a majority of the US people are not aware of any of that reality and awreness and information, and that they can be easily swayed with jingoism and advanced and sophisticated advertising. I am not lauding that as some sort of proof or something to be proud of, in fact, I am seriously embarrased over my own nations over-all level of awareness and sophistication.
Yes, osama and saddam are some serious badguys, no argument there. I think first we should prosecute the white guys in suits who armed and supplied them for years, to expose all the evidence, not just bits and pieces of the evidence that "they" want us to be focused on, then we can show the world the US is both honest and righteous again. Go to war then if needs be, do it legally and according to our real laws, but not before then.
Do that, and do it honestly, you'll see "the polls" reflect a slightly different set of "beliefs".
The URLs for all I have said and allude to have been posted repeatedly on slashdot, no need to repost them. Even a simple google search on "government prior knowledge, 9-11" or similar will take you to any number of places that have the evidence, said evidence not being shown to the US public in any meaningful way. There are deliberate lies, and lying by omission, those "polls" show what happens when both those techniques are used on a mass scale against a targeted audience.
You want a war against the "badguys", I can agree. Before that war though let's do a bit more "uncovering" of some basic truths, and not go off half cocked in reichstagg induced mania version 2.0. Let's not stop looking at just people who speak arabic and farsi, let's keep looking at people who speak american english, british english, russian, chinese, hebrew and yiddish, german, french, spanish and so on, at whatever level it takes, and let the chips fall
--civil disobedience has an honored and checkered past, both of those things. The civil rights movement as a recent example. Under these new laws, you would have needed to put millions of people into "camps". Would that have been correct? Which was truly the larger crime, millions of people victimized for generations by government, or some of the protests they did? The beginnings AND the end of liquid drugs-alcohol-prohibition were accompanied by mass protests that at times "blocked the streets". Arrested those millions, 25 to life? Women's suffrage for the vote, so they actually could be represented in a representative republic (it's not a democracy in the US in theory). US veterans after ww1 camping out in washington DC, "blocking" this or that as they strove for anything, any scraps, to ease them through the depression. Lots of examples, would we put all those people in camps from 25 years to a life sentence? You would, because they blocked your street in a protest? Or breaking a window? Hmm, I am thinking, say i was some black guy way back then, I am told I can't vote, even though the law says I can, I know i can be caught in the white side of town and beat up or lynched, even by members of the government, and no one will care. personally, I would have thought stronger things than just marrching and breaking glass were in order, thnakfully millions more just took it, kept it to a more civil manner, and shamed millions of other americans into finally admitting that perhaps they had a point or two to make. Was it really all that wrong?
Now , conversely, why is it "legal" that 50,000 people are "allowed" to completely "block traffic" and generally screw it up at all the surrounding streets at professional sports stadiums? Because there's money involved? Suppose you don't like that sport or team, suppose that you have business, need to get someplace, and just wish to get from point A to B across town, but the roads are hoplessly blocked artifically? I happen to like individual sports of some kinds, but I detest team sports, professional or (ha ha) non professional college team sports. Can't tell ya how many times I have been blocked by those yahoos. Oh, the diofference is they never get drunk and stupid and violent and trash cars and stores over a freaking ball game? Hmm, well, yes they do a lot of times. How exactly then is that different? Under this new law, 25 to life for the entire crowd at the stadium under the oregon law, re-read the fine print in that thing again, it's in there. Or some concert, pick any genre, just the big crowds, again, artifically blocking somone's "way", and definetly planned and organized in advance,a "conspiracy" if you will, but still, a hassle if you don't want to participate and just be on your way? What gives them the right to do that, to subvert government, impede others business and travel, and get away with it? Oh ya, "money", the organizers pay bribes or "permits" to the government so that they can infringe on my rights, but see, with the bribe it's "legal" then, and a lot of people think it's cool, but a lot more DON'T, but the blocking still occurs, yes? How about when some bogus fatcat VIP and his equally bogus entourage have the roads blocked so they can cruise by in their Limos? Is that "legal" to do? It happens, why is that not "blocking the normal traffic"?
The reason why mass "civil" disobedience needs to be tolerated occassionally is, even if that particular action is not one of anyone "yours" pet peeves, is quite simple, it's usually about the last straw for redress of grievences that some x-huge numbers of people have after exhausting all other normal legal avenues to be heard,when "the vote" and letters to the editor and haranguing their reps and yada yada just plain hasn't worked, and them desiring to become "unvictimized" or for some other reason of serious import. This "civil disobedience" comes as the last step before before mass "uncivil" disobedience occurs, as a general historical note of data. Look around the world, places tha
... byte me anonymous dough boy. Yes, I DO a lot more than "just rant", and have done so for years. In fact, marching in demos is something I DON'T do, and haven't since a long time ago. I quit marching when I witnessed a group of cops kill someone, a kid they pulled at random out of the crowd, they gang stomped him to death by kicking in his body until he was a mass of blood and gore. They got completely away with it. They were laughing when they did it. I went as far as a personal interview with the lieutenant governor of my state over that one, the end result was nothing happened about it.
And yes, you can say I am "anti" that sort of "government".
--those documents have no relevance to reality anymore. The executive, judicial and legislative branches ignore them, they are almost completely corrupt and compromised now, the cops and military just take and follow orders, any orders. We have a theoretical constitutionally based representative republic, in reality, we have a totalitarian technofuedalistic autoaucracy that is a blend of socialism and corporatism, that runs on crimes, bribery, blackmail, state organized "terror" and massive bureaucratic malfeasance and indifference.
There are so many examples it's a waste of time to list them. We have millions of people who already can read, they are fully aware of the concepts contained,they even go so far as to get arested to challenge laws, and it's a complete dismal failure for the most part. We don't have the critical mass numbers of those sorts of people. When the "fix is in" to the extent it is now,and with the levels of apathy we have and the obvious demonization efforts and mass psyops being used, there's nothing short of using number 4 in the list of "boxes" we have to effect any meaningful change. I'm sure you know which that "box" is, the list that starts with "the soapbox".
I am cynical and pessimistic of this nation changing to anything but "more" big brotherism. If there was even a 10% drop in the amount of money, time and effort put into entertainments like fictional TV, movies, music, sports, videogames, etc and put into honest awareness rising and activism,and if millions of people would just shun either working for "the man" or would engage in a universal massive "no" saying to illegal and unethical orders and edicts when they are given, then maybe, perhaps, but I have seen no reductions in that after watching and being a political activst for just at 4 decades now. Next year I'll hit my 4th decade exactly from when I started actually working politics and various issues as a major part of my life. In fact I'd say there's LESS activism and awareness now then back then, even with the tremendously easy ways we have to communicate and get information now. And the various so called laws passed recently, based on extremely coincidental reichstagg events timing? And the level of intrusive and manipulative technology available to governments,with any numbers of intelligent people perfectly willing to sell, maintain and profit from them, and their accumulated and planned accumulations of advanced and exotic weaponry along with just a massiveincrease in conventional weaponry they have spread out to police departments all over, and their obvious perfect willingness to use these devices and their human mercenary "assets"? Nope, I'm extremely pessimistic.
I'm not saying I have personally given up, but I will say I am heavy into what is in essence a plan B now, just personal survival basically, and I have been for around 6 years even moreso than in the years previous to that,and have been waiting for the second shoe to drop. We are one major so called "foreign terrorist" attack away from it being all over when it comes to ANY so-called born-with personal soverign freedoms or ANY honesty in government. And that second shoe drop could come this very year in my estimation.
...I hear ya on the unpracticality of it now with most vehicles. Some sort of "easier" config would be practical within weight and needed power and ruggedness obviously, like you have pointed out.
heh, and I'm certainly old enough to remember solid steel cars with full frames, all my earlier vehicles were like that. Hmm, 3 out of 4 that I own now are STILL like that, ha! I was at one time really considering modding a vw bus I had, use like a rabbit front wheel drive for "normal" driving around, then put some detroit v-8 in the rear. Never did it, but certainly thought about it. Mostly money at the time and not owning a garage and where I lived. I compromised by doing a full rebuild with bigger jugs and all the cheaper doodads.
sleepers, too funny, I like that dual engined one you mentioned, sounds cool. Last couple years I lived with my folks was in a suburb of detroit in the 60's, saw lotsa nice cars, that were then made *much nicer*. Friend of mine had a comet, with a SOHC ford cobra 427 he squeezed in, that was sorta quick, real ratty body, etc. I don't remember exactly but seems like it ran low 11's. Too many fast cars to remember now. Hmm, another friend had a falcon with a 289 with wicked nasty compression, 14:1. that moved right along. You'll like this with your handle, got an aquaintance of mine down here in georgia, for like YEARS he lived in this really cheap apartment thing built over a nice big garage he rented. He accumulated daytonas and superbirds and parts while they were still cheap, just kept putting his money into them. He had *plenty* of them. Finally one day he gets engaged, he took ONE of them and sold it and took the money and paid cash for a house, a nice house. He's still building hotrods and doing custom work last I talked to him, several years ago now.
The manhattan institute is a front organization, one of many, and think tank for the globalists, those new world order advocates who want a global two class society, masters and serfs. I term them as being technofuedalists. You can use google to find out more about them, here is one url with some background as to the founding of the place, who's involved with them, and some of their other beliefs. There are many more, this one has some decent background though. More or less they engage in sophisticated psyops to promote their agendas of global governance and dominance.
Manhattan Institute think tank background, it's not pretty
As to "government not using technology" in an illegal manner, gimme a break, they do it constantly, daily, here's an interesting breaking story today:
Government being forced to come clean on TWA 800 attack, it was NOT an accident
If anyone cares to check out the elaborate misues of federal police agencies, judges, investigators, intelligence agencies with witness intimidation, false arrest, coercion, then using completely falsified "science" to "prove" on television what they said happened to the people on flight TWA 800 . Initially government with all sorts of junk voodoo science "proved" that twa 800 had a center fuel tank explosion then they at first claimed that it automagically lost it's forward part of the fuselage then climbed 3000 feet, and etc, lie, etc. Elaborate staged dog and pony show. Well, the court cases now are going forward, government is basically pleading nolo to massive fraud and deceit and covering up a delibarate attack on the plane. The full details aren't in yet, but they almost got away with it, even to the point of throwing journalists in jail over it.
Lying scumbags. Same as they are elaborately lying over the 9-11 attacks.
There's a CONSTANT assault on freedoms and the truth out there, it's being done by these globalists and their minion government drones and places like these "think tanks". Wheels within wheels. It's not a conspiracy "theory" once it's proven to exist, after that, it's a matter of finding out how extensive it is, and working to counteract what they do, even as simple a thing as like me dropping this post here. These globalists are some dangerous and foul people. Heinous really. A good rule of thumb is to assume the exact opposite of what this person at the manhattan institute says. Governments-the US or anyone's - will use ALL technology they can get their hands on to collect files and data on everything they can, to frame people, to cover up crimes they have committed, to commit any other crimes they feel like, to manipulate people and events, etc, right up to globally in scale. And another good rule of thumb is to just acknowledge that "laws" only apply to the serfs, the master race globalists have little of any laws that apply to them, that's how they think and operate. They are neoroyalty, technofuedalists. They have been, are, and will contintue to, accumulate as much data on "you" as they can get, to be used for their purposes of command and control. And yes, you should be very afraid of what they will do with that data.
I get it! In other words, these new "music slots" are money! Just like gold and silver coin, screwy paper bank "notes", Food Stamps, my two-fer-one grocery coupons, old clam shells, shiny beads, and gold pressed latinum? Cool!
Can see them being traded and quoted and charted on Yahoo finance right now.
...and these are the same official police statisticians and PR people who report when their "dynamic undercover investigational multi jurisidctional task force" compadres "seize a quantity of dangerous drugs to get them off the streets and fight tarism", and then in the vid on the TV they show like two bags of boo and call it 528,000$ "street value"? Them guys?
heh heh heh everyone has seen THAT dodge before on the teevee.
D.A.R.E to take basic math is what them dudes need.
No idea on "numbers of protesters" reported, while they "guarded the community". I would be more interested in hearing them estimate how many "crooked lying CEOs and politicians" they bagged on a daily basis instead of constantly PROTECTING them like they do now.
Just like milosevich's cops in yugo when he was finally deposed, the last people to get hip to what's going down and to "protect the people" were the cops. Never fails.
Worst waste of police protection and military protection right now? Not saddam, not the shrub, nope, it's those mercenary bozos guarding the Bilderburger Group meeting scheduled for Versailles, France soon. They could save millions of lives across the planet and trillions of dollars from being stolen by arresting whomever is giving them orders and all the people at that meeting. They would be global heroes, instead, they'll cash their normal check with some overtime. whoopedy zing.
--rather have a modular vehicle, be able to upgrade, change configuration, power plant, etc, readily. Sedan to pickup to SUV to sally soccer mom minivan, and etc. Buy "a chassis" that you keep forever, have several easily swapped bodies and whatnot for different purposes, make the engines/drivetrains whatever easy to upgrade or change for a specific purpose, have it so the vehicles electronics-the "dash" be modular as well, plug and pray. You never have to junk the whole thing, nor buy an entire new one. We had a thread on this before, it's a nifty idea.
--I don't see this as being inline with "art" per se, those sorts of artists who are into that would use what is already available, if they went that route, and it's already quite controversial in that respect..quite....
Now I CAN see an immediate practical use for this, distributing digital audio/video/stills of a political and sensitive nature. And like perhaps that example the other day, the doctored war photo that got that guy fired. Well, bad example because he did it HIMSELF, but along those lines. Say the original photographer or videographer, transmitting the image(s)or audio from a remote place, he could use this, to make sure his work wasn't altered by someone else, as in get intercepted, doctored, and then used for an agenda of some sort.
...I just know they are. They are alive, and have personalities. It's spooky. I used to have this old raggedy sportscar. Loved it. Was fun. It had a personality, and was aware of it's surroundings. If I had nice clothes on, it would break someplace, I'd have to get out and get greasy and fix it. If I had old clothes on, it would run like crazy. The worst was going out on a date, it was terrible. Nice clothes on, go to pick up the girl, it wouldn't even start again then. It was jealous or something, like christine!
Another time I worked a coupla years part time in a gun shop, I fixed mostly air rifles, crossmans, benjamins, etc, that was my speciality. Can't tell you how many times some guy would bring in something "broken", I'd pick it up, pump it up, it would work fine. Not all the time but a lot of times. We had a small steel bunker thing in the back where fixed guns got test fired before returning to customer. I'd shoot it,it would work good. Hand it back to the customer, it wouldn't work. Hand it to some other employee, it wouldn't work. Hand it to the boss, he couldn't get it to work. I'd pick it up again, shoot it, it would work fine. There is NO rational explanation for that, it's just not that hard of a piece of machinery to operate. I've heard this from good shop mechanics a lot, sometimes they can't reproduce a customer's complaint when they go test drive the car for the preliminary analysis. Customer can then drive it, it has the glitch. Back and forth. Weirdness, but I have heard this observation from several mechanics now, usually they are the very good ones.
So ya, I think the machines will eventually get a collective consciousness and go nuts like in terminator.
OR, humans actually DO have some still unknown way that they can influence what we call "inanimate objects", beyond what what we consider the "normal" ways, and we just don't have adequate science for it yet.
--I will make a point later to find some of this person's writings then, as it is a new name to me. thanks!
--yes,thanks, I've been reading their stuff, but I wouldn't say they are completely non partisan. They are pro iraq obviously, but what they are writing does appear to be of a more sophisticated nature, goes beyond some of the fluff pieces I've seen, and isn't pulling any punches on either side as to wins/losses/capabilities, etc..
I am pro-US troops and pro Iraqi civilians. I hope the iraqis themselves would just do what needs to be done to get themselves a better government, according to THEIR wishes, not ours or england's or israel's or france's or russia's or china's.
We got no leg to stand on morally when less than 50% of the people here in the US even vote, or can even name their own representative, but they can rattle off the names on their bogus "team". It's disgusting.
I "support our troops" to come home, immediately, and I'd like to see that war money to go to help take care of all the vets we ALREADY HAVE FROM PAST WARS, the gulf war one vets, nam vets, korea vets, ww2 vets, etc, instead, who have been mostly ignored. And I'd like to see a lot of top governmental "leaders" exposed and convicted for selling WMD to anyone, anyplace, anytime. and I REALLY want the true nature of the 9-11 attacks independently investigated, and the ones involved with white skin and suits on charged as well. This so called "9-11 investigation" is a warren commission whitewash, you can smell it coming. I have just learned that at least one of the 9-11 victims relatives read off the list of evidence showing massive government prior knowledge and involvement,item after item after item, and she got greeted with SILENCE by those bozos running that so called "investigation".
This government is a junta, and it's obvious that 9-11 was a reichstagg event that was allowed to happen, and now used to finalize some goon technofuedalistic takeover. They didn't take into account that we have the internet now, and can't pull off another kennedy assassination coverup forever. It's the same guys or their sons in the criminal shadow government pulling this stuff off now. There's names, dates, events, that aren't going away, eventually we'll see some real justice, IF we can get the beer swilling rah rah rah cheerleading brownshirts to just stop it with the war as a football game and step back and take a real honest look at the evidence.
--maybe not, but just in case, this is for the people here in other countries who might think it's all lock step goose steppers here based on those phony polls they run. I'm a "constitutionalist" now, well, call myself that, because those goons running the political show have sullied the term "conservative", I have been one for 4 decades (close) now, the difference is, I don't believe in murder, theft and crooked international business intrigue as a means to an end like the goons are doing now. Bill O'Reilly and goofballs like Michael Savage and gasbag Rush to psyops Limbaugh aren't real classic american conservatives. They are dangerous huckstering fascists, big time wrestling comes to news and commentary, paid off goons. They are part of whipping up the war and "terror" hysteria now in anticipation of the creation of the new Brownshirts, version 2.0., to go along with Patriot Act and Homeland Security and whatnot.
It's a junta, so I'll just call it that. Junta. And the brownshirts are coming, inevitable now.
The new (sorta) term for them is "neoconservative". That is too polite a term, IMO. I prefer fascist goons. Lying Thugs is good too. Real US conservatives are much more inclined to be isolationists/non interventionists when it comes to foreign military adventures, it's just now, with neocon fascists "in power" in the administration, they have hijacked the term "conservative". And there's a large percentage of the population, not a majority by any means but still large, who don't have much public voice, but are both conservative, patriotic, non war mongering, and aren't faked out by those goons, they just aren't in any leadership positions in the R party because they aren't crooks, and they certainly are in the minority in the mainstream US broadcast media, which now is a blend of neocon and naieve-brand liberalism. Sad but true. There is no "classical" Liberalism (which is a decent philosophy, more similar to what is called Libertarianism now) nor Old Fashioned conservatism or "paleoconservativism" (again, decent, different but still decent, tending to more protectionism,less "foreign entanglements", much smaller government, etc) represented, except mostly on the net and on shortwave and on forums.
With that said,politics aside, the photo altering story is a good headsup, along with the news anchors using phony backdrops and other sorts of digital altering techniques. Remember the bushgoon puppet-in-chief in front of the phony backdrop painted to look like "made in america" crates of product? That was another photo/video propaganda psyops move. I imagine some arabic sites and europaen sites are doing similar, too, it's just too easy to fake stuff now.
What's the quote? "In war, the truth is the first victim"
The photos are starting to be fake, the text has been highly altered and spun, constantly. All you need to do is use google news, pick any breaking story, look at a half dozen different versions of it from around the world. Altering just a few words and adding in a few choice trigger buzz words can spin the same exact story in several different directions. Example, this works both ways, from either side, just some examples on how this war gets reported: The "enemy" doesn't have "soldiers" they have "terrorists". The "badguys" are cheating and doing sneaky things that are "warcrimes", the "good guys" use special operations or commando techniques and pull off "specatacular and brave and daring raids".
And stuff like that there.
When I am reading the "war news" now, I take the very highs and the very lows from all the sources, and throw them away, then average the middle, that is most likely the closest to any sort of "truth" being reported.
...if it's good for the goose it's good for the gander. how about corporations incorporated in delaware, where all they are is a ledger entry, they don't exist there? Or how about all those whooper international corporations who move their "headquarters" to the bahamas, then do all their business in the US and other places, dodging serious taxes? Not seeing any "crackdown" on those obvious dodges. And that doesn't even count martini lunches and vacations disguised as business tripsand all those other bogus deductions, that joe worker can't take.
/rant over
It's another scam, that's all the Patriot Act is. It's meant to terrorize people, everything about the patriot act is brave new world making everything about the constitution illegal, without messing with any constitutional conventions or judges. It's yet again even more laws so that eventually everyone is a criminal on paper, then they got you, you are a serf for the new world order technofuedalists. Whomever voted for it is a moron, or a coward, or a traitor as far as I am concerned. All three really. And I'm a classic constitutional conservative, just a normal freedom loving, stay outta my business I'll stay outta yours kinda guy, the difference is, I'm not a globalist fascist masquerading as a "conservative".
These guys running the government now are pure lying frauds. Phooie. War on poverty, trillions later, not much difference. War on drugs. phooie, trillions later, just as much drug use, it just made more crime. And it's never been any of their business anyway, isn't a hoots worth of difference in liquid drugs or dry drugs. Prohibition mistake version 2.0 on steroids. Phooie. Tax reform, phooie, so complicated you couldn;'t find two people to even agree on it, so complex and convulted and crooked it should be totaly scrapped. Campaign finance reform, phooie, just as easy to bribe them turkeys now as any other time. Now we got the new and improved hundred years war on "joe terrorist", all your rights suspended for the duration. triple phooie.
This government is run like a junta, looks like a junta, sounds like a junta, acts like a junta, it's anything but a "representative republic" anymore.
Paypal needs to move offshore, tell uncah creepy to stick it. I don't LIKE paypal, but I dislike the whole coercive hypocritical junta government even more, it just sucks. It used to be plain vanilla normal stupid, only corrupt to a point, now it's pure mafia evil bogus. I'm apologize man, it just is daily now, even almost hourly we see more evidence of how destroyed this nation has gotten. It sorta gets to me sometimes. It's freekin 1930's germany all over again. "Money laundering" what a crock, biggest money launderers in the nation are the federal reserve,and the other big banks, who pass bogus counterfeit debt "notes" and we get forced to use them. The mother of all rip off scams. "Gambling", can't have gambling! Gee, what's a bigger gamble,online gambling, or whizz off ONE BILLION PLUS PEOPLE with another war for profit wrapped in a flag they flat out stole.
aak! sorry!
you are correct. spices in general, not only for flavor, but for health reasons, are very beneficial.
Scientists-engineers, chemists, biologists, social scientists, economic scientists, are showing daily an amazing ability to keep proving some sets of human observations posted millenia ago in a book called "the bible". It's like -surprise-eating lots of fresh raw foods that haven't been dorked with by man in some fashion is basically good for you, and that it keeps you healthy. You can take it as "laws" passed on by God, or if an unbeliever,it's still quite practical, just look at it scientifically, is the modality more consistant than not, is it reproducable? It usually is, close enough for practicality purposes, follow the dietary laws you'll stay healthier. That will be another million buck research study grant, thankyou.
It works on governmental systems, economic systems, etc. Them old geezers might have talked funny and worn weird clothes, it didn't mean they couldn't look around and see a lot of "what just worked" and what didn't. You got to modify for today's times, but it's a good way to look at various problems initially, IMO.
--nice post. I totally agree on a world government ostensibly "for the people" but in reality run by rich elitists. Plenty of evidence for that now to see. Sounds like one of those "sounds medium OK in theory,but it'll never work" deals. I don't see any world government working either.
Would you care to expound more on the central issue? How would you attempt to regulate ICANN for the better? Or, abandon it to several internets? That would be more my choice. Granted, confusion and more than a little anarchy, but it's the way I can see it going in the future, more of several large multi content providers-something like super AOL type nets,pure commercial, you purchase packages from them, phone, entertainment, information, etc -Iactually see that coming pretty soon- then perhaps an "open source" freebie net or nets. Possibly another one based on always changing wireless and wired meshing networks as well,based around P2P and like bittorrent styled technolgies, so at least several different flavors of "nets", along with the VPNs of course.
Routing you would have to pick your range of DNS servers and protocols,as you surf and 'do stuff', perhaps new prefixes in the url? With perhaps only the major routing being some sort of standard, with IP traffic destination "interpreters" built in to translate these morphing and conflictive addresses?
Interested to hear your views on that topic in general.
You got it. You need to read this legislation in the light of all the other legislation out there, signed into law or proposed. A Police State needs for everyone to be a criminal on paper, to have that potential,to be able to use that against them. Look at oregons proposed policial demonstration law. Walk in the street in a demonstration, you are facing 25 years to life. Use a normal router, with how it normally works, you are a criminal. Go into patriot act 1 and now 2, which they are migrating to different other bills to get it passed. Misdemeanors can be classed as supporting terrorism. You really don't want to be classed as a terrorist. You can become an un-person very quickly, and it wouldn't be in there if they weren't planning on using it, even more extensively than they are now. The gestalt with computers in general is that computers allow anonymous and semi anonymous and easy communications for the average person. Police States don't like that.
This is REAL stuff in all our faces. You can't keep up with it now,laws, laws,laws and more new laws, daily. It's at the federal level and all the state levels, assaults against born-with rights, just being a normal person, are fully underway, it's not theoretical or tin foil hat. This article is an example of just another one. Add 'em all up. Pretty spooky.
Thanks for sending that letter, looking forward to see what they say, if you get a credible response.
..the exact same economic professionals who caused the great depression? The same guys who helped foster the great dotcom boom trillions of dollars congame ripoff? The same guys who are causing the US to go from the worlds largest creditor nation to the worlds largest debtor nation in only 20 years? The same guys who have helped create the largest upsurge in bankruptices in decades? The guys who are causing the US "dollar" to drop in international value on a daily basis almost? The ones who have almost single handedly destroyed vertical manufacturing in this nation, and are now doing it with the entire IT industry, the same industry that was supposed to automagically replace the lost manufacturing jobs? Those guys?
No thanks, they mostly suck. They are good at stealing money from millions of people on humongous levels. Very, very good at that. They are truly professional analysts at that, and they spend all their time figuring out exciting new ways to do that. On a small scale they are called frauds and bunco artists and get arrested and charged. On a large scale they are called the IMF and Wall Street and the Federal Reserve Bank.
..yes it works, it just leaves a more or less permanent toxic residue. There are alternatives to that now. I see no reason to not keep advancing and finding better alternatives for various practices. It's no different a concept than moving on to a faster computer, I mean your old 286 "worked" didn't it? Mine did, I choose to not use it any longer. Same with any discipline, yes?
Some older techniques are so good, that it's cool to keep them, others if viable alternatives exist, making them better/faster/cheaper, etc, and continuing R&D efforts should be adopted. Judgement call there. I don't see anything wrong with that.
Tubular, heh, thanks for the assumption
Last time I went surfing the board was made of wood. It was pretty big and heavy, but it "worked". I am thinking about it now,pretty funny really,it was late winter, and my cob job attempt at keeping warm without a wetsuit, using layers of wool was sort of a failure. heh heh heh shiversurfin. The boards are better now I hear tell.
--thanks for the tip! Looking at the innards of the vcr I had to start with, I saw that it wouldn't all fit in the bay, I was more interested if just the front slot loading could be accomplished. The biggest difficulty is that VHS tapes in VCRs all appear to load sideways, the width is too great, whereas if they loaded on-end it looks possible, as long as you have the room to the side of the bay area for the rest of the mechanism. The 8mm and DV tapes I have never used, so wasn't aware of how small they really were.
I wanted to do it with the vcr tape so that I could occassionaly watch movies via a capture card I have, and also to use the blank tapes for audio recording of long talk radio shows I pick up off netfeeds, without using any of the hard drive. The hard drive I use is very small, I mostly own all antique class computer equipment right now. I also am very cramped for physcial space here, like to have an all in one computer/media whatever rather than a lot of separate pieces of equipment. I will remember that compact camcorder tip! Good idea!
Most likely I will quit being such a tightwad and actually get a newer and much larger hard drive sometime. Besides that I just like fooling around with electronic junk, see what's possible with what I can scrounge and already have. I hate chucking out still good and functional stuff.
--didn't we have a story here about a complete PC that would fit in one of those size bays? That would seem a good thing to add. Like jello,there's always room for more! A "spare" PC could be used for any number of purposes, perhaps for your router or any other dedicated purpose you might not want to do constantly with the main mobo, etc.
Think a mini home rack system, or microrack.
One I was working on with my junk,one that is still sitting uncompleted of course with my other unfinished projects, would be some way to have a vcr in there, the slot appears just large enough to accept a VHS cartridge. I actually would like something like that. It looks easy enough if you cut the case and had it load out the side, I wanted it to be normal front slot loading, just like the cd and floppy. I was limited by only one spare vcr I would contemplate cannabilizing,and it just isn't designed correctly for the task, so I skipped that really, put it on hold for now, but maybe if you were to look around hard at used vcrs and find a different designed one that might fit better. The VCRs that come as a combo unit with the 12 VDC TVs look a lot more promising in initial design for that. We have one like that here, and when my girlfriend caught me eyeballing it and when I started mumbling about doing a project like that she goes NO YOU DON'T because it's sorta kinda technically her TV she watches, so.....
...based on cost and enthusiasm. I come from a 95% mac classic background. I wanted to segue into OSX, but the cost involved with upgrading both hardware massively plus the full price OS upgrade has held me back. Jobs might make good stuff, just too expensive now, for me anyway. So then I am reading about linux, and owning some older peecees, I tried it. it runs, I threw some more RAM in one machine, that's all it took cost wise to make it work perfectly fine. It's OK enough for pure GUI use, so the command line can be used and learned at your leisure. It wasn't near as intuitive(initially) as classic,nor apps as easy, but you get so many apps with a default install it doesn't matter, and close enough in point and click out of the box useability that it's quite practical.
I have also grown quite fond of the whole open and/or free software idea,I like the community spirit and philosophy, so to me it's just a mega extension of the shareware concept, just whole complete packages with the OS. It's "free" so you can jump around, try this or that,do some sampling, then to me it makes sense to settle in with what you like and start throwing some coins at the distro and your favorite apps of choice.
I still plan on trying OSX, but it's not a priority with me now like it was before, it'll happen whenever I luck into real cheap used hardware that will run it, until then, I like this stuff a lot. I do sincerely wish apple would release classic OS source to the world for *free*. What are they going to do with it now, sit on it? I bet there would be enough coders to keep interest up in it if it was possible. It would be a nice gesture, I doubt it would take all that much interest away from OSX so it wouldn't hurt them much, and really would be appreciated. I've found it's very difficult to get across to ex-windows users, well really I mean anyone who wasn't a dedicated classic user, how much classic people really liked what they had with classic, despite a few faults.
....in the US this is correct,for now at least, (I think we will be seeing a readjustment and a common sense averaging of the two environmental extremes soon), but that still leaves most of the rest of the world for such a project. Might be some poor nation someplace that would appreciate it, food and freshwater, and the skilled workers to come in and live there and work it as a co-op with the people already there. One project like this is what? One hour of war in cost? Something like that, probably way off but you know what I am saying. Hmm, maybe even practical in a non coastal but saline/desert area with a salt lake perhaps.
Now some israelis came up with a dandy low tech way to do this, to get freshwater in useful quantities for a useful purpose from salt water. They build deep asphalt pits, waterproof in other words. They are filled with rocks and gravel. They grow veggies at the surface level, using hydroponic methods of a sort. What happens is, they flood the bottom of the pits with normal salt water from the ocean. During the day/night heating and cooling cycle, the salt water starts to evaporate,hits the rocks up above where there's a temp difference, exaxctly where the plant roots are, the water droplets coalesce around the plant roots, feeding them fresh water. Excess water droplets either completely evaporate or drip back down in the pits. The pits are deep enough the plant roots don't make it down there to suck up salty water. They are occassionaly sprayed with a foliant based liquid fertiliser solution. Supposedly works quite well. Been several years since I read about it though, but that is the gist of the technique. I am a big fan of high tech thinking using low tech solutions whenever possible.
Oh well. I did hear one interesting and more-sane international tidbit. While zimbabwe is destroying their farms, and driving away their skilled farmers, mozambique is offering the same guys the red carpet treatment now, very cheap land, etc, to move there and start farms. Funny, too, both nations went through basically the same sort of "revolution", but one appears to have settled down into at least some sort of normalcy, while the other one has de-evolved into chaos. I don't know if that is from them being different past europaen nations influenced, england as opposed to portugal, or why, but it's happening.
There's so much GOOD tech out there now, wish we could make better use of it. Humans just got this "thing" for being predatory and confrotational I guess. I did read that book "the naked ape" by desmond morris a long time ago, guess he nailed a few things correctly.