Nonsense. They could force open the console and get physical access. Oh, did you mean access in the sense of functionality, or something? They don't have to perform any particular function outside of that which they were sold to do; with a console, they were sold to work as a complete system for the sole purpose of playing pre-approved games, and maybe playing pre-approved movies and music.
OK, but after sudden implementation of DRM by the backdoor, try finding a workable CPU/OS solution that's able to play media without DRM restrictions; for that matter, try finding (legal) media without DRM restrictions.
A reasonable compromise might be to buy some kind of media centre (preferably not running Windows:-) machine for watching video and listening to music, leaving your PC un-DRMed for stuff like programming, Internet access, etc. That's what I plan to do if the DRM nuke goes off.
Please explain to a luddite like me why you would want a bloaty browser that contains two other browsers' engines (one of which is guaranteed to be installed with the OS) when you could much more easily install those 2 browsers side-by-side?
Oh, and if you know anything about filesystems, you know that most typical file systems block-allocate files, which means that a 2 byte text file takes up 4 kilobytes.
You'll notice if you read again that this was exactly my point; how does your database system help against this in any way?
As for directory structures being created via SQL queries, no I don't understand that. Must be beyond my comprehension. I always though SQL was a query language, not a hierarchy builder.
To be honest, I've read the thread all the way down below and I think you're a bit confused by this whole 'filesystem' thing.
I rather like the model of files having no direct location, rather, just a byte-heap in a database. For a long time, this is actually how I've organized my files on my disk, but the problem is, every now and again, your mind changes how you want to lay out all of the files
Um, you've just contradicted yourself. Are you storing them in a byte-heap or not? The closest you could get to that with a traditional FS is just dumping all your files in one directory, yet you say you've organised them in a hierarchical manner. Which is it?
With folders going the way of the highway
Aren't highways still around?:-) Must be an Americanism I've never heard before...
you can just heap whatever files you want, wherever you want, without all of that path confusion
Confusion? I'm not confused. It gives me an excellent way of ensuring I can see, and perform actions on, EVERY file that's associated with a certain thing - such as a certain program, or collection of media - as long as I first file them in the right place. Now, people are perfectly able to understand that it's much harder to find a piece of paper on a desk if you just dump everything onto it, which is why they file them (usually alphabetically) in a filing cabinet, in real life. How is it such a leap of understanding to apply this to computers? With computers you have even more power, because the structure is hierarchical. I guess it's a different system, but still logical. I just don't understand this particular problem.
Pair it with a program that can rip my files apart for all of the metadata that it can give up, index that along side the files, and no file is ever more than a few mouseclicks away.
Here comes my biggest query about your argument - why do you need to remove the hierarchical FS to achieve that? Just tag a load of metadata on files (you can already do that), have a clever indexing service (already have to a large extent) and, um, a search function (already have that). That way I get my hierarchical system and you get your 'forget about file location' system - just disable/remove the 'folder' column in the search results.
instead of having to delete and move files around, which thrashes the disk and makes the filesystem a disaster, the filesystem can effeciently use space because it can know exactly how big the files are, and start sticking files right up next to each other.
Either you or I am REALLY misunderstanding something here. Wasted disk space is not caused by moving files around, that's just modifying FATs. How in the name of Jeebus would the operating system 'know exactly how big the files are' in your system ANY MORE than it would under the current system? I guess you forgot to explain the 'forsee the future' functionality of your system. Look, wasted disk space is caused by files changing size, and grouping a drive into large clusters of 4k or 12k bytes in order to be able to address the disk in a sane way. Your system will not address this whatsoever. At least, I don't see how it will.
And if I were designing the UI for this thing, you'd be able to change over to a pane, change the SQL query, and poof, the folder displays what you want.
So design a tool to index a current drive's contents intelligently and allow fast SQL queries of files' metadata, why do you need to remove the hierarchical structure to achieve this? Please explain, I'm genuinely interested. But I doubt you can because I think you're lost.
You said below that you find it really hard to explain this concept in your head to someone. I suggest you either come back when you've found a way to explain it, implemented it, or realised it's stupid; it's not gonna happen otherwise.:-)
No, but I think it might be very useful if you could know. Then, you wouldn't have a million and one proprietary interfaces that you have to learn, to some extent, each time you use a new phone (they even differ between phones from the same manufacturer!). Hell, you might even be able to download and use an interface of your choosing!
the Vikings moved to Greenland and it was green (hence the name).
Ya know, your implication that the WHOLE of Greenland was green is, I believe, rather bogus. Take a look on Google Earth or something. Parts of Greenland, in the southwest and southeast, look pretty luscious and green *right now*! When they gave it the name, they were probably referring to those areas in which they settled and not the island as a whole.
Sure, it may have gotten a little colder which made it less habitable, but don't suggest that that vast ice sheet only appeared in the last few hundred years.
it's not going to happen in my lifetime, so who cares? Warning: that's the kind of sentiment that generally gets you called an asshole, and I'll concur. You're an asshole.
What'd you think of them if your grandparents had cared so little about the future you were forced to grow up in an overheated world where people were dying en-masse from famine, etc?
Seriously though, the hurricane bearing down on New Orleans right now should give folks something to think about with respect to global warming. Indeed. On the news yesterday, they had a shot of New Orleans being evacuated, with a HUGE highway JAM-PACKED with motor vehicles exiting the city. I found it rather ironic*.
* Grammar nazis: I know ironic doesnt quite mean this but you know what I mean, and could you suggest a more appropriate word to mean what I mean?
Except that you wouldn't be here if not for said extinction period. Who says that killing humanity off [...] isn't in everyone's best interest [but ours]? Nor would YOU be here if it weren't for humanity's drive to survive, which isn't really wrong and is quite understandable. Of course we care about our interests more than that of other species, so we're going to try and stay on top.
Is no-one worried also about the relatively high power consumption of hugeass plasmas? We're trying to lower our power usage here, people - if America switched over to 60" plasma displays, power usage would shoot up. More pollution, unless you manage to switch to environmentally-friendly energy (haha).
Search Engine: How about one that's been a favourite bugbear of mine for some time: allow an *exact* search. If I type in #channel2(*all), match that EXACT string and nothing else. They say it's 'tough to do' because of Google's current quick searching system, well boo hoo. One way of doing it would be to match "channel2 all" under the current system then do a second parse to filter out the 99% unmatching stuff.
Oh, come _on_. That kind of attitude is why Linux isn't more popular than it is today. It has just about every feature *most* people buying a PC need, and is generally cheaper, ignoring (of course) MS's Windows-bundling tax. This isn't why I want to see Linux grow, the reason I want to see it grow is because it's Freer and should be able to stave off the onslaught of DRM.
When MS released a new OS did they do so thinking that the impact would be negligible, so why bother to even try? OS/2 and IBM mainframes would still be in the majority if that;d been their attitude.
they have at least the ability to make your life and job very difficult without even breaking a sweat.
I don't know about that.
The difference between PEI and Mars is that Mars might someday support the life of more than one human.
PEI recent population: 135,294
*looks puzzled*
Yes. But what is causing it?
Hey, who cares? Global warming is baaaad for us and we should do everything in our power to maintain the status quo temperatures, right?
but are NOT ALLOWED access to them
Nonsense. They could force open the console and get physical access. Oh, did you mean access in the sense of functionality, or something? They don't have to perform any particular function outside of that which they were sold to do; with a console, they were sold to work as a complete system for the sole purpose of playing pre-approved games, and maybe playing pre-approved movies and music.
OK, but after sudden implementation of DRM by the backdoor, try finding a workable CPU/OS solution that's able to play media without DRM restrictions; for that matter, try finding (legal) media without DRM restrictions.
A reasonable compromise might be to buy some kind of media centre (preferably not running Windows :-) machine for watching video and listening to music, leaving your PC un-DRMed for stuff like programming, Internet access, etc. That's what I plan to do if the DRM nuke goes off.
The day CD Baby gets a logo that doesn't make me want to turn images off whilst browsing its site, I'll consider it.
Jury trial? Surely this is a civil matter. Over here (UK), such copyright infringement cases would not be heard in front of a jury.
How about next time it happens, take a screenshot? LOL
Please explain to a luddite like me why you would want a bloaty browser that contains two other browsers' engines (one of which is guaranteed to be installed with the OS) when you could much more easily install those 2 browsers side-by-side?
Hum. So you're telling me it was too expensive just to move upstream en masse, or something? Is it expensive to live in Baton Rouge?
Disclaimer: I really don't know.
Oh, and if you know anything about filesystems, you know that most typical file systems block-allocate files, which means that a 2 byte text file takes up 4 kilobytes.
You'll notice if you read again that this was exactly my point; how does your database system help against this in any way?
As for directory structures being created via SQL queries, no I don't understand that. Must be beyond my comprehension. I always though SQL was a query language, not a hierarchy builder.
To be honest, I've read the thread all the way down below and I think you're a bit confused by this whole 'filesystem' thing.
:-) Must be an Americanism I've never heard before...
:-)
I rather like the model of files having no direct location, rather, just a byte-heap in a database. For a long time, this is actually how I've organized my files on my disk, but the problem is, every now and again, your mind changes how you want to lay out all of the files
Um, you've just contradicted yourself. Are you storing them in a byte-heap or not? The closest you could get to that with a traditional FS is just dumping all your files in one directory, yet you say you've organised them in a hierarchical manner. Which is it?
With folders going the way of the highway
Aren't highways still around?
you can just heap whatever files you want, wherever you want, without all of that path confusion
Confusion? I'm not confused. It gives me an excellent way of ensuring I can see, and perform actions on, EVERY file that's associated with a certain thing - such as a certain program, or collection of media - as long as I first file them in the right place. Now, people are perfectly able to understand that it's much harder to find a piece of paper on a desk if you just dump everything onto it, which is why they file them (usually alphabetically) in a filing cabinet, in real life. How is it such a leap of understanding to apply this to computers? With computers you have even more power, because the structure is hierarchical. I guess it's a different system, but still logical. I just don't understand this particular problem.
Pair it with a program that can rip my files apart for all of the metadata that it can give up, index that along side the files, and no file is ever more than a few mouseclicks away.
Here comes my biggest query about your argument - why do you need to remove the hierarchical FS to achieve that? Just tag a load of metadata on files (you can already do that), have a clever indexing service (already have to a large extent) and, um, a search function (already have that). That way I get my hierarchical system and you get your 'forget about file location' system - just disable/remove the 'folder' column in the search results.
instead of having to delete and move files around, which thrashes the disk and makes the filesystem a disaster, the filesystem can effeciently use space because it can know exactly how big the files are, and start sticking files right up next to each other.
Either you or I am REALLY misunderstanding something here. Wasted disk space is not caused by moving files around, that's just modifying FATs. How in the name of Jeebus would the operating system 'know exactly how big the files are' in your system ANY MORE than it would under the current system? I guess you forgot to explain the 'forsee the future' functionality of your system.
Look, wasted disk space is caused by files changing size, and grouping a drive into large clusters of 4k or 12k bytes in order to be able to address the disk in a sane way. Your system will not address this whatsoever. At least, I don't see how it will.
And if I were designing the UI for this thing, you'd be able to change over to a pane, change the SQL query, and poof, the folder displays what you want.
So design a tool to index a current drive's contents intelligently and allow fast SQL queries of files' metadata, why do you need to remove the hierarchical structure to achieve this? Please explain, I'm genuinely interested. But I doubt you can because I think you're lost.
You said below that you find it really hard to explain this concept in your head to someone. I suggest you either come back when you've found a way to explain it, implemented it, or realised it's stupid; it's not gonna happen otherwise.
No, but I think it might be very useful if you could know. Then, you wouldn't have a million and one proprietary interfaces that you have to learn, to some extent, each time you use a new phone (they even differ between phones from the same manufacturer!). Hell, you might even be able to download and use an interface of your choosing!
Thank GOD computers aren't like mobile phones.
the Vikings moved to Greenland and it was green (hence the name).
Ya know, your implication that the WHOLE of Greenland was green is, I believe, rather bogus. Take a look on Google Earth or something. Parts of Greenland, in the southwest and southeast, look pretty luscious and green *right now*! When they gave it the name, they were probably referring to those areas in which they settled and not the island as a whole.
Sure, it may have gotten a little colder which made it less habitable, but don't suggest that that vast ice sheet only appeared in the last few hundred years.
it's not going to happen in my lifetime, so who cares?
Warning: that's the kind of sentiment that generally gets you called an asshole, and I'll concur. You're an asshole.
What'd you think of them if your grandparents had cared so little about the future you were forced to grow up in an overheated world where people were dying en-masse from famine, etc?
Seriously though, the hurricane bearing down on New Orleans right now should give folks something to think about with respect to global warming.
Indeed. On the news yesterday, they had a shot of New Orleans being evacuated, with a HUGE highway JAM-PACKED with motor vehicles exiting the city. I found it rather ironic*.
* Grammar nazis: I know ironic doesnt quite mean this but you know what I mean, and could you suggest a more appropriate word to mean what I mean?
Except that you wouldn't be here if not for said extinction period. Who says that killing humanity off [...] isn't in everyone's best interest [but ours]?
Nor would YOU be here if it weren't for humanity's drive to survive, which isn't really wrong and is quite understandable. Of course we care about our interests more than that of other species, so we're going to try and stay on top.
Is no-one worried also about the relatively high power consumption of hugeass plasmas? We're trying to lower our power usage here, people - if America switched over to 60" plasma displays, power usage would shoot up. More pollution, unless you manage to switch to environmentally-friendly energy (haha).
I did, a while back. They responded and said something along the lines of that it wasn't feasible with their current search system or something. Damn.
Not the same. Google will ALWAYS filter out special characters, such as # and !.
Search Engine:
How about one that's been a favourite bugbear of mine for some time: allow an *exact* search. If I type in #channel2(*all), match that EXACT string and nothing else. They say it's 'tough to do' because of Google's current quick searching system, well boo hoo. One way of doing it would be to match "channel2 all" under the current system then do a second parse to filter out the 99% unmatching stuff.
Oh, come _on_. That kind of attitude is why Linux isn't more popular than it is today. It has just about every feature *most* people buying a PC need, and is generally cheaper, ignoring (of course) MS's Windows-bundling tax. This isn't why I want to see Linux grow, the reason I want to see it grow is because it's Freer and should be able to stave off the onslaught of DRM.
When MS released a new OS did they do so thinking that the impact would be negligible, so why bother to even try? OS/2 and IBM mainframes would still be in the majority if that;d been their attitude.
Yeah! Any aspiring account-hacker would only ever think to try one of the passwords on the post-it note!
Yep. As the site said, this one is particularly effective.
When you saw this, did you:
- Burst out laughing?
- Sigh regretfully?
- Cover your mouth and run for the toilet?